TTC 10 + months, part 14 (eek)

[GinSoaked]

A friendly, supportive thread for lovely ladies taking waaay longer than they ever expected to win their babies

euro you have just voiced my biggest fear at the moment! Our embryo was def a slow developer, being only 3 cells by day 3 and it was day 6 by the time it was a proper blast. Our consultant thinks that so many of our embryos failed due to the sperm and I guess this would be down to fragmentation. I read a worrying article about increase of MC and DNA issues with any child that is born and depressed the crap out of myself! In Dave?s case, there isn?t really anyway to improve sperm frag, as it?s likely to be so high. I think some clinics do check for it when doing ICSI, but not Create as far as I know. However, the consultant did say they see babies from men who literally have 1 sperm. That?s great news that all looks well with Mr Euro. Dave had an ultrasound on his balls and blood tests, but no cross-eye making full bladder ultrasounds!

BTW, I asked about why a full bladder is needed at ET (the valium made me quite chatty during ET!). Apparently a full bladder presses down on your womb and creates a straight line for the catheter from the cervix to the endometrium. I was relieved to hear there was a proper medical reason for me being so uncomfortable.

Rabbit so so sorry about AF. Head fuck cycles just aren?t fair when we?ve been at the game so long. When do you plan to start treatment? And no waaaay do I believe that you look old. You look super young in your facetube pics. And the fact you can even do bikram shows how fit you must be. Chin up lovely, hopefully it was just the hormones making you feel crap.

artemis lovely to hear from you! I?m so pleased to hear all is well and progressing as it should be. Yay for mini baby bumps. Have a lovely break and do keep us updated with how things are going. BTW, I came across your name professionally t?other day, which made me

madness good luck with the stabbing on Thursday. I?m sure you will feel much much better on the stims. Your hormones won?t know what?s hit em!

Welcome back critter and hope you had a fab holiday.

joy job knob made me . My bedroom looks like some kind of weird pee stick shrine. I can?t stop doing them! Think I have tried almost every variety. Dave keeps telling me off? I think you are v. much entitled to be angry. A scan pic FFS? I think "normals" have no idea how we feel. And that is particulalry insensitive after all you have been through. In fact, I'm cross on your behalf.

pout my post ivf cycles were a bit odd. The first one was reaaaallly long. I think I got EWCM around day 7 and then not again until a week or two later and loads and loads of it. I guess hormone levels are still high.

Good luck with the stabbing Nellie. I was in a terrible frame of mind 2nd ivf. I really don?t think it makes any difference, except I guess stuff is easier to deal with if you are happier. I got to the stage where I cried every time we had to do a jab especially the evil clexane Funny that your clinic don?t recommend fanny candles. Mine were insistent, even for the natural FET.

sea sorry about the cold and deafness! There seems to be a lot about at the mo. Hope you feel better soon.

buzzy how are you doing on the down regging drugs?

Blood test results will be at some point this arvo. The nurse gave me a hug when I fessed up to the hob nobs, which almost made me cry. Right better get on with some work, except I can't concentrate...

x post doll - waves!

joy I have put on about half a stone but it feels like more as I haven't been exercising so I am all flabby. My crazy working will be over this time next week and I will then be on a mission to get healthy and back in shape. Sorry to hear about the scan pic announcement. Meh.

gin sorry if I have added to your menkulling.

I was given a slightly different reason for the full bladder at ET - I was told it helps to compress the embie into the lining.

I remember waiting for that call well! Just give up on work - there is no way to concentrate. And it will be even worse when the result comes through!

Not at all euro. In fact you have made feel less mekul, as now someone else agrees that it is a genuine issue and not just some crap I read on the net/made up! If this doesn't work out, we now at least know my womble will let things implant and can move onto considering donor sperms.

Ah yes, the dr did mutter something else re the full bladder thing and it must have been about about compressing the embryo in. By then he had his head amidst my legs, so I wasn't really concentrating.

joy I put on weight after both ivfs. Oddly I was lighter actaully during them but seemd to balloon immediately afterwards. I don't know if it's the drugs or all the post-ivf therapeutic cake I ate. But I did google and it seems to be a side affect for lots of people. I did loose it again fairly easily with some sensible eating and spanx

Indeed, I'm not working, waiting for your call so I can't see how you would be gin I never did bloods, so I'm waiting for your call instead.....

Gin - waiting for the phone calls are awful. They tipped me over the edge just a bit. You never know Mrgin sperm may not have bad DNA frag. And the embryo could develop just perfectly normally but it's so easy to be worry about it all. And I have ballooned after as well. I did just say sod it and went on a carb and sugar splurge but blimey 10lbs. Thrush is always a good wake up call to stop the crap diet plus not being able to fit in to my usual jeans.

I knew you ladies would understand the scan pic. Insensitive or what!

gin you must be going crazy waiting. It's so nice that the nurse gave you a hug, but I know how if people are kind to me when I'm stressed it makes me more likely to cry. Sorry that you felt tearful. There is every reason to think that you will get amazing news shortly - you had an excellent quality embie. Hang in there, hold tight. We are all rooting for you.

sea sorry you are full of cold - I so hope the weather warms up for you soon and that you see the back of it!

rabbit I am so sorry that AF is here. I agree that you've had a lot of near misses and also that it's really, really great that you're moving forward with treatment and taking control (or handing control to the doctors/outsourcing). It's the endless waiting around that is so hard. Incidentally I too think you are beautiful and don't look old in the slightest, on the contrary you are all lithe and balletic yoga-instructor-esque. It's just rough on our self-esteem, this whole business. And the day before one's period is always a hormonal low.

euro I'm sorry your work has been so crazy. Can you take some time off this weekend to go shooting with MrE, blow off some steam? Very interesting about his tests and good that everything appeared to be how it should. I'm looking forward to our date later this month, by the way! Spring is definitely here in DC now, there is cherry blossom out everywhere, it's lovely.

joy grrrr at the scan pic. People can be SO clueless and unbelievably thoughtless. It's kind of amazing how big some people's egos are that they could do something like that. You've had an awful time, and you are not being sensitive or ratty. I hope you're ok at the moment, I can imagine that now the mc is a couple of weeks past, it must be particularly hard for you as you're not just processing extreme emotions and living day to day on adrenaline. I am thinking of you and hoping with all my might that your baby is just around the corner. It actually made me feel quite choked up that you kept your stripey pee stick. You have been on such a hard road.

art hurrah for surprises! How lovely. I can't believe you're over halfway there. And yay for flutterings from your little one!

sar you are not annoying and pathetic, you've had a really shitty time and that does leave its mark. Work stress doesn't help, and I'm sorry that you're worrying about that too. I had a similar thing in the autumn and it's a horrible feeling. You always have such interesting and insightful posts, I was fascinated to read about your appointment with Dr Tubes. I really think this may be a corner being turned for you, although I so understand the awful frustration and the urgent feeling of wanting a baby now. Your luck has got to change. I'm sorry that you have to have another HSG, but I hope it'll be a step closer to getting your baby. You are a brave lady and you will get there.

madness hurrah for starting stabbing on Thursday! I start my lupron injections tomorrow morning (I start stimming next Friday) so I will be a week behind you and cheering you on. You are going to feel so much better, you've been such a champ during the down-regging phase and have borne it with so much grace. I am really excited for you.

pout Sorry about the crazy cycle. Do you have a date yet for FET? I did read that success rates are higher with FET than with fresh...

buzzy how are you feeling my love?

nelly are you stimming yet? Sorry about another stressful cycle.

Well my hols were lovely - it was really nice to spend time with my parents and MrC. My parents brought a couple of their friends who were a bit annoying, lots of anti-Yank comments about how Americans were fat and stupid which irritated me on MrC's behalf. But I got some lovely time alone with MrC too, which was really, really nice. And I do feel that if this doesn't work out, at least I have a wonderful man who I love spending time with, and a family that loves me. We ate lots of melted French cheese, drank lots of red wine, and got lots of time outside skiing in the fresh air. It was such a tonic. And I've come back to very warm spring weather - today is going to be a high of 28 c!

I had been feeling a bit fretful about IVF. Like euro I had a freakout when the drugs arrived - and I worried about whether I was being too impatient and should just wait a bit longer to try to catch another panda egg, and I worried that if I had a baby, would it be ok, and would it hate me for having used IVF to get it... lots of stupid stupid worries that I know rationally are pointless. I think it'll be easier when I start stabbing with my lupron, which is tomorrow, and there's no turning back. Basically everything is fine though. I know all these fears and emotions are normal and human and we're all having them! And it means the world to be able to talk to you all about it.

Morning all,

Swinging in to say hello and that I have fingers, toes and everything crossed for your blood results gin. This is very exciting!

Rabbit I second Artemis that surely no-one looks good in a hot yoga class? You no way look old and haggered. Some lovely pics popped up somewhere else last week and you are defo years younger looking than your real age. I'm sorry that AF turned up but I've everything crossed for your upcoming treatment.

Buzzy hope you are feeling ok downregging, when are you off to forin lands? You should write a book about Kayla - I don't even like cats (sorry, sorry I know this is a very cat loving thread) but she sounds super cute and funny!

Sar sorry to hear about your job, I've got a very dear friend in an utterly shitty situation re work at the moment and I've been helping her deal with the prospect of redundancy and other emotional baggage which she's lumbering 'round at the moment. I hope that it all resolves itself. I'm glad that you and Chumba are being positive about your tubes et al at the moment. It sounds like you have someone positive and sensible on your side.

Pout I was very sorry to hear that your first round didn't work out. I so hoped it would. However you have a lovely little frostie on stand by. Big luffs to you and the dogs.

Critter spring, SPRING, you say?? We have nowt over here. Grey, damp and cold. I'm in jumpers and clinging to the radiator and looking out on a drizzly, yucky day. If the UK had a weather related soundtrack we'd be stuck on Radiohead right now. Eurgh.

Euro and Joy respect for your returns to normality. I'm in awe at how you have both bounced back so impressively. I hope that you are both feeling ok-ish. It sounds like you both have sensible plans of action in place - onward!

Nelly Good luck with your second round. There's no reason why this one won't work out for you. Sweet of you to say that us grads be missed 'round these parts. I've been lying low over here since a certain incident. Although the swan video that Doll posted still tickles me.

Doll waves at ya lady. Hope you are doing well. How many weeks are you now?

Lemon I hope the lovely lemon is still enjoying her lovely holiday :)

So, I'll be as brief as a Princess can be about my news. I'm now 31 weeks and have a mere 23 working days left until maternity leave starts. My bump is huge. My baby is so strong it has twice got me in the ribs and I've feared of breakage (this is entirely possible BTW) The bloody house still isn't ready due to further horrific set backs (the whole house started to peel; our plaster is literally dropping off the ceilings in sheets; we are going after the specialist and very expensive manufacturer for compensation - Mr P is in talks with their MD, who is taking it seriously but was "hurt" and "distressed" by Mr P's stern email. I have been kept away from this one but he is in need of being sent to the MN grip shop). We are now in the ridiculous position that I may need to move in with my parents when the baby arrives.... My parents are moving to the Mainland away from Craggy Isle, so at least they will be not too far away. If we get into our house it's going to be mucho mucho close to baby's due date. I don't mean to whine on here about how tough things are because I am very lucky in almost every other aspect. It's just the technicality of where I'll be giving birth - the planned hospital or a different hospital / if I'll be away from Mr P / dealing with in laws on a daily basis for the 7th month.... It's quite distressing to someone with strong nesting urges to be away for their nest and for a control freak to have no idea where they will be giving birth to the PFB.

We had a diabetes scare a couple of weeks ago, where my bloods weren't right and they had me back in for tests. However, my second set of results were A-okay - despite my nurse telling me to the contrary and causing a massive panic and loss of sleep about the possibility that I had gestational diabetes and may in turn be growing a supersized humanoid. Turns out she had read the wrong results on the screen. The midwife I spoke to about it was lovely. The other nurse is a complete douche bag.

On a lighter note, I've taken to craving wet sponges - yes those large yellow ones that you use to clean a car (I haven't indulged but they really do look tasty and the urge is frightening) and I'm loving cleaning the toilet with pine toilet cleaner and have to linger above the bowl to take in the smells (I usually hate the smell of pine toilet cleaner, so this is tres bizarre)

I would do some cheerleading, but I can't even walk up a few stairs without clutching the wall and wheezing like an old lady. So I will offer vouchers for amazing tail feather blow drys and lots of lovely pampering.
And a collective shout out to the Gods up there for more BFPs soon.

Love to you all. Sorry if I missed anyone. :)

xxxxx

Gin I am keeping everything crossed for a straightforward bfp call. And waiting!

I am broody today. I found out someone I teach is pregnant, due 9 months after getting married. I smiled congratulations most enthusiastically after feeling like a bowling ball hit me in the stomach.

Multiple cross posts!

Critter and princess thank you for being kind. The thought I have eggs that are older than they should be has floored me as I've always felt young for my age (and immature) and I'm from a long line of grandparents who trot on in fine fettle to their late nineties, popping out babies in their forties for fun. It's questioned everything I've taken for granted about my longevity genes and I keep wondering what I did wrong. This then surfaces into a diffuse ageing panic.

Critter your holidays sound lovely lovely lovely. The ivf box panic seems an inevitable part of the whole hideous journey sadly. Maybe we should collectively write a set of instructions for future box openers to feel better about it? I'm wishing you every success, there is so much hope for you.

princess big rib protecting wave to you! Car sponges. Tasty! Dipped in chicken broth? Sorry to hear things are still all in the air, the plaster sounds like a royal ball ache and let down. But, when everything is in the air, I find it usually all settles to the ground as it should.

Joycep sorry about the angry feelings and at the scan photo. Talk about insensitive!

I'm just generally and today which I'm thinking is marginally better than plus news cons arrangements getting very complex, wish I could say more.

rabbits I am sorry that the witch showed up. In the night as well. That is always crap waking up to that little surprise That said it really is good that you feel ready now to start treatment. I think joycep is right that suddenly something clicks. BTW you are not old looking by any stretch of the imagination. I think this time of the year is rubbish for self esteem. Months of no sunshine and central heating drying out our skin doesn't exactly make anyone look at their best!

joycep I was so, so surprised that anyone who knows what you have been through so very recently would think that it is any way acceptable to send that e-mail. I know how exciting it must have been for your friends to have had a first scan and everything but my god they really ought to have been able to step outside of that bubble for one second and think of how you and Roy would feel. I am really quite mad on your behalf!

art & princess it is so lovely when you pop back with updates. art I am in awe that you haven't been tempted to ask the sex of the baby. Beige is quite nice much better than bubble gum pinks and baby blues You can always go down the brights/unisex route.
princess I so can't believe how far along you are. The time has flown by. You made me laugh about your sponge cravings. Sponges give me the heebie jeebies. I can't touch them without my skin crawling and my teeth going funny I have this thing where I imagine biting into Big Ted & obviously need counselling so the thought of eating one makes my toes curl! So sorry to hear of your house traumas. That is fecking awful and I totally understand why you feel stressed by it. Hope the company sort it for you ASAP. at the MD's "hurt" at the e-mail??????

euro Sperm fragmentation is a new source of worry for me too. Can I ask whether you know if this would be the cause of embryos fragmenting at the blasto point?
It is good that MrEuro has been checked out. The urine retention is interesting. What now with that? I wonder whether it was a good thing that MrP had that urinary tract infection and got those antibiotics at the start of our IVF and whether it might have a positive bearing on things going forward. I did smile at him being uncomfortable having to be scanned with a full bladder MrP kept trying to force water down me at my ET and trial ET and wondered why he got the death stare.

critter So glad that you enjoyed your holiday with your folks. How bloody rude of those people to keep insulting Americans. I used to get that from some of MrP's Scottish rellies & for some reason my MIL seems to think that there is some English V Scottish competition over everything even over bloody butter and air!

madness It is great that you have had a good chat with MrM. How are you feeling about everything? Have you started injecting yet?

gin I am so thinking of you today and can't wait for your update.

Wading into the IVF weight gain debate I lost a few pounds during mine which surprised me. I am still over my usual weight though because of the Clomid still not lost it all I also have been wading through the amazing sticky toffee pudding that I made at the weekend over the last few days so no doubt will put on any weight I have lost.

rabbits That is it absolutely. The shock that our eggs might actually be older than we feel and act.

princess lovely to see you! Gosh, things sound super stressy re the whole house situation. I really wouldn't want to be away from my other half in the final stages. I don't know how you've managed to live with the inlaws for so long and kept sane! Although sponges, eh? Do you know what kinda baby you're having? Can't believe how soon D day is!

Your holiday sounds amazing critter and exactly what you need pre-ivf. I think everyone has the drugs stress. Haven't you basically already done half of ivf that month when you stimmed and got all those eggs?! Honestly, you will find it ok.

Oh rabbits, ignore the fhs. Lots of clinics ignore it - I've never had mine done. Sorry about the pregnant student. I was thinking the other week how devastated I'd be if one of the people I manage got pregnant. Having to be nice to them and seeing their bump grow would totally do my head in.

pout sticky toffee pudding, mmmm. I can't believe you lost weight during ivf.

Well the clinic rang and all is fine, phew! She said the hcg levels were "lovely" but didn't give me the exact figure and I decided not to ask, as I knew it'd make me mentul more although I do wonder if she realised I should have had the blood test on Sunday and if the levels are still fine for day 16 rather than day 14... I have to book the scary early scan now for 2 weeks time.

I still don't believe it and don't think I will for a long long time. It feels like there's still soooooo far to go. But I am going to try to be fairly positive and menkul less and enjoy being updiffed right now, even if it doesn't last. I really hope this gives some hope to those of you with AC cyles coming up (everyone on here I think?) and esp you pout. I really do think it's a numbers game for me and Dave - it's taken 23 ivfed eggs and 5 embryos transferred to even get this far and find an emryo that would actually implant.Thank you all so much for you support. It's been totally amazing. I luffs you all

The next 2ww now begins...

Yay! I've been looking back regularly to see if you had posted. Hurrah! You are pregnant! BTW, my recommendation would be to leave the scan until 7 weeks. I know they say 6+1 but when I went through my limbo hell, frantic googling showed loads of people have uncertain 6 week scans. If I get that far again, I'm going for 7 weeks. I know it's longer to wait, but it should give a better idea of viability. Most other clinics don't seem to scan until 7-9 weeks.

I'm so happy that you are updiffed! Wise words about numbers - I can't believe it took 23 eggs to get this far! If we all persevere, we should get there in the end.

joy I also seem to put on weight AFTER ivf. Last time I blamed the drugs. This time I am blaming the preggo hormones for increasing my appetite. I should probably just blame the cake... I want to know pout's secret.

critter the holiday sounds fab (although the anti-yank comments don't). I can't wait for our next stateside date - not long to go now!

princess sorry about the house mess. That's not what you need now. Can you threaten to go round and sit on someone if they don't sort it out? Yellow sponges you say? Er....

rabbit I'm not sure it's possible to look good after Bikram...

Luffs to doll.

Very quick message from work.

Gin - congratulations!!

Yay gin that's amazing news. "Lovely" HCG levels is just what you needed to hear. Woohoo :) You're pregnant - whoop whoop whoop Here's the a sober next few months, plain sailing et al. So pleased for you lady :)

Euro Good plan re sitting. However, I fear that if I sat on anyone right now, I may squish them to death with my new blimp like form.

To clarify re the sponge situation I just kind of want to put a big icy cold wet sponge in my mouth and suck at it a bit. Not actually eat / ingest it.... Yes, it's very odd and disturbing. I'm not quite sure what to make of it really

Critter your holiday sounds amazing. Eye rolling at American bashing. I find it all very tiring. All of the Americans I've met have been really lovely. But then they are PEOPLE not an ALIEN race. I would not have been able to bite my tongue! Yay to skiing. So jel. There's nothing like crisp mountain air, whooshing around the slopes with big blue skies and beautiful views topped off by lurvely creamy hot melty soft cheese and gallons of red wine. Mmmmmmn. Droooooool.

Joy I think your friends were unbelievably cruel. I still don't get it? I'm sorry that you had to experience that level of knobbishness. Hugs xx

Hi ladies.. Posted here before a few weeks ago..hope you are all well.
Just a question which maybe someone can reassure me..

I'm on cd 12 now and had stinky tiny amount of pink blood last night. Worried all night re various forms of cancer etc and googled it this morning.

Could it be ovulation bleeding? I did have low right sided pain and a little today also but no further blood.

Never had this before.
Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks x

Gin ? hurrah. That?s great. You are well and truly updiffed. And quite agree about not wanting to know the numbers. I spent a lot of time on the beta levels website comparing my levels with everyone else. It wasn?t a healthy way to spend time. And I would back up Euro?s point about waiting until 7wks for the first scan. Mine were at 5+5 and 6+2 and there weren?t any fetal poles or heartbeats. It wasn?t until 6+5 that we saw the heartbeats. And others have perfectly healthy pregnancies even if they see a hb as late as mine. 7wks really is the cut off point and so you will potentially avoid any horrible limbo land. Mentalling is inevitable but I hope it isn?t too invasive on your day to day life. So well done Gin, really thrilled for you and hoping in every part of my bod that this is it for you.

Rabbit ? like you I feel very young and immature so it was a huge kick to be told of my shockingly low amh level last year when i was 32. My ovaries are way older than me and i can?t understand why when i look at my family history. I now just look in the mirror and feel old and haggered.

Critter ? i can?t believe you kick off tomorrow. Starting ivf is a fretful time but it is better once you start. Your holiday sounds bliss and so pleased you had a wonderful and deserved break before things start. Although not sure why people would be rude about Americans in front of MrC .

Princess ? lovely to hear your news and can?t believe how close you are. Sorry to hear about your house mares though. That really doesn?t sound much fun.

Pout ? how are you doing? I know it?s very soon after your round but when do you think you?ll go for FET and will it be natural?

Goodness, i can?t concentrate at work today. So het up that my friend may be pregnant. That would be an A* announcement. Plus it?s over 4wks since erpc and I know periods can take 5-6 weeks to reappear but of course i am worried i have got ashermans which apparently can happen in 40% of cases. Can?t believe i haven?t had a period this year.

Yay gin that's brilliant news.

I'm with euro on the scan I waited an extra few days (though I was still pre 7 weeks) and the result was nice and clear, not that I know those days made any difference, of course.

Thanks for thinking of me euro mrsden and the sponge sucker. How lovely to see you princess I'm almost 12 weeks in answer to your question and will be back with a proper update when I'm over my fucking deaf careless bastard doctor hating twisted bitch phase. It's just a thing I'm doing and it will pass.

Anyhooos lovely to see everyone out in force with gin Yay again. Onwards rabbit and nelly pass the crappo cycles and on to more positive ones... x

Hooray Gin, this is bloody brilliant news. It's so lovely to see the preggos posting. And Art - you said "baby" earlier. It made me well up!!

Sorry about AF Rabbit that is too cruel. Old eggs - you know my feelings on that. But I can confirm you look young and gorgeous .

I start stimming tomorrow. Double dose for first two days. Supposed to be having first scan on Monday but told them I am away with work. They tried to tell me I risked going over. Hardly likely after 5 days when it took two week last time! Also I thought as I was paying I say what goes on. Rant rant. Bloody hormones . Anyway Mad we are cycle buddies at the same clinic.

I hope it doesn't take me 23 eggs cos that will be 7 cycles .

Will try for a proper post later x

Mad I assume its the same clinic but don't actually know

joy it's still early days, lovely. I think you had your ERPC the day before I started bleeding naturally? I oved a couple of days late (I was amazed it was only a couple of days after all my body had been through) and am not due on until later this week and that will only take me to 4.5 weeks.

Good luck for stimming, Nelly.

Princess the squashing was rather the point! :)

Fizz I have no idea sorry, but I have one friend who has bled a little at ov time on some occasions.

Gin you are pregnant! I love how I can feel and about a pregnancy announcement at work and totally, genuinely elated for you. It shows that infertility has not frozen my heart! A 10 plus announcement is a lovely lovely thing. Wishing you an uneventful fattening

Fizz the bleeding is most likely ov bleeding, I get it a couple of times a year and I don't think it's anything to worry about at all.

It's been lovely to see grads on here today all cosy on the 10 plusser thread. Doll I am curious about doctor anger. I wish I could share my story as its making me super I need to hire euro!

Nelly glad you've passed the starting line, sorry about early frustrations already. I think fertility clinics would be better run by people like us! Think how lovely we'd be on the phone. Prob less successful at sperm picking.

Well I have to say day 1 of my period is a chore to be endured.

Pout I was at a fabric warehouse today and wondered if you would like the fabric I was choosing! Thanks for being so kind to me.

I luffs you lot

Massive woo woos to gin. I'm am over the moon for you, it just goes to show that this is a numbers game. M new favourite thing is positive ivf stories, I've been thinking that it never happens so its lovely to hear that it does.

Nice to hear from you princess and art.

Rabbits, I add to everyone, you look so young to me too. I have days when I feel old but I hope it's in my head, someone acted surprised when I said I was 31 today, and said I looked younger. That made me feel stupidly happy for the Rest of the day,

Joy, how insensitive can some people be? I have a friend who posts every flipping day on fb about her pregnancy, I've had to hide her. The thing is I know she had an ectopic last year and lost a tube so I would have thought shed be more sensitive. Her announcement really affected me because I thought she's got one tube and still manages it without intervention, why is it so hard for me?

Waves to everyone. I'm still waiting for af so I can start injections. Spotting today so should be soon,

gin! So thrilled for you! Amazing amazing news. I can imagine you must be a combination of overjoyed and terrified - but there is every reason for this to be the start of a happy nine months. Hurrah for 'lovely' hcg numbers!

mrsd which injections are you starting tomorrow.... are you SP or LP? I can't remember! Exciting that there's a whole batch of us together.

doll fantastic that you're nearly 12 weeks. Yippee! Intrigued to hear your update. Yay for good news and happy grads.

princess ooh is it weird that I can sort of understand your sponge longing? Not one that had been used to wash a car though, that would be just wrong! Sorry to hear about the house woe - that sounds like a nightmare and the last thing you need. Grr at 'hurt' email.

joy I'm sorry you're having such a tough day. I have heard other people say cycles can be screwy after an mc - I hope everything settles for you soon.

rabbit are you making something nice with the fabric you got? Sorry for period woe.

pout I'm super impressed that you lost weight on IVF and drool at the sticky toffee pudding. I managed to put on 10 pounds on what MrC has dubbed 'Operation Fatso' when I was hoping a higher weight would bring back my periods and regulate them... now of course I'm IVFing anyway, humph - might as well have stayed skinny if I was going to bring out the big guns!

nelly yippee for stimming! And how cool that you and madness are cycle buddies at the same clinic. I am imagining it decorated as a fabulous Highland hunting lodge with antlers on the wall in the waiting room .