Excellent Egg Buddies continued! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in Jan, Feb and March 2013 please join us!

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We've run out of room on Karbea's Jan IVF thread and it is too much fun to stop! We're all getting into comfy clothes and enjoying the side effects and surprises (and occasionally some hand holding).

Euro Big hugs. I hope working on the uncomfortable lard will be a good distraction, or at least that you'll get some satisfaction from the results that will cheer you up in small ways.

You WILL get there one day. It's like a maze, a little bit, you think you're doing really well until you meet another unwelcome dead end. But there is always a finish xx

Sorry to hear that euro :(

Morning ladies

I hope you had a good weekend.

Euro I'm sorry to hear that you have been upset. You must be exhausted everything you've been through. Give yourself chance to rest. The extra pounds will sort themselves out over the coming weeks.

Tilly, keep, choco I hope you are all ok. I had cramps. I found them reassuring like the emby was bedding down making herself comfy.

Noks I hope you are feeling better. Hang in there sweetie not too long to go. We are here for you.

Dildals your appt sounds very fruitful! I hope that the bleeding has slowed down and you are feeling better also.

Hello to everyone else. All ok?

AFM I've had an awful weekend. The wedding was hard i left as early as possible without being rude and DP stayed. Yesterday I couldn't stop crying and today I'm dragging myself to work. I'm convinced that it is all over. My list of tenuous symptoms have disappeared in the last 2 days. Even the weeing and tiredness although I feel tired from the crying and emotion. The only discomfort in my belly is down to the constipation from the progesterone. I feel in despair and DP doesn't know what to do with me. Im sorry to offload. I can't talk to DP because I feel I need to hold it together for him. I'm worried that he wont want to try again because I'm not coping well this time round. I thought I'd be so happy now and i feel awful. Scan is not until 4 April and I think that euro is right, an early scan could just bring me more problems.

I've got a busy day at work so I'll have to focus on that. Sorry girls I hope you are all feeling more positive.

Shaz xxx

Oh shaz, I'm pretty sure fluctuating symptoms is normal. You're still only, what, six weeks? What about all those dreadful people who don't even realise they're pregnant for ten weeks. No symptoms is OK.

How about a repeat blood test to check your levels are going up? But the scan is only ten days. You'll get there. Today you are pregnant. Today you are pregnant.

Do one of you further along preggos want to start the thread in antenatal, so the ivf-ers don't have to listen to us as much? I'm too nervous... Fairy? Dildals?

Shaz keeps is so right. Not everyone has symptoms and having them settle down doesn't mean that the pg is disappearing.

I slipped twice in the ice on the way to work and am I bit fed up. I didn't fall, I just did the spilts a bit which isn't something I tend to do at my age and now I've got a bit of a 'stitch'.

Good idea re new thread Keep but also bit scary. We could keep going in this one until it gets full, and try and focus on the IVF part for the IVFers. (Well we're all IVFers aren't we just at different stages) x

Shaz I came across this blog which I found reassuring
abeautifulday.blogs.com/when_ivf_worksthings_the_/2010/05/when-ivf-.html

Hi girls

Thanks for the kind replies. I will look up the blog thanks Tilly.

Part of my problem is that I also don't know where to turn. I'm in the system at GPs re antenatal, i dont want to go back there and see her and obviously I don't feel that I can go back to guys again as they have much more important things to be doing. I'm one of the lucky ones.

Hasn't helped that I had a massive row with DP this morning who is banging on about me being negative this weekend about this effing wedding. Frankly I've got more important things to worry about than whether the bride was offended that I left early.

I have googled the hell out of no symptoms at 6+3 but most people say 'I have no symptoms except.....' and then go on to list symptoms. I feel empty. And I'm convinced it's my intuition preparing me.

I'm sorry if this is not the right place to talk about these worries. I appreciate that others might not want to hear about it. I feel so alone in RL.

Xx

Oh shazz I want to climb through the screen and give you a giant hug. I understand your worrying, I really do. The waiting is really tough, and it never really ends!

One thing you can do yourself which might give you a little comfort is to pee on sticks. I had stopped, after a week or so post-BFP, but resumed again after the first uncertain scan and the line did start to get a teeny bit fainter, which helped to prepare me.

I'm back now and a bit dazed and confused. I might toddle off for a nap in a minute. I can't see myself getting much work done today!

shazza maybe you should go for the early scan, if it'll put your mind at rest

euro sorry you've had such a horrendous time

Well, things are really not looking good for me, I did a digi test yesterday and the number of weeks since conception had gone down to 1-2 weeks from 2-3 weeks the week before. I went for a blood test today and got a result back of hcg of only 56. I have to go back in 48 hours for another test, but think it's only a formality. I really thought that I wouldn't have cruel enough luck to have a 2nd miscarriage. Devastated.

Choco oh my goodness honey. I'm praying for you. Big hug x

Euro thanks for the hug and kind words. Its no wonder you are dazed. I hope you have a chance to gather yourself now without having to jet off again.
X

Choco big hugs - let us know how you get on. We're all rooting for you x

Oh choco no! It's just not fair you have this worry. We have such a hard time getting a BFP we should really have an easier ride once we get there.

choco I'm really sorry things are not looking good. It's all so unfair.

shazza I totally understand how you feel but you must try not to get too convinced things are wrong. Feelings are not facts, I try to tell myself, albeit not very successfully. Pregnancy symptoms are so variable and as that article Tilly linked to says, it is normal to have a dip after the initial burst. Your body always tries to adjust back to normal.

euro glad you made it back. I hate jet lag, it always takes me ages to get over it.

Hi to the rest of you. I have another scan tomorrow when I will be 11+2, if it looks good I think I will have finally made it.

Hello ladies

Thanks for your support today. It meant so much to me. I had a Hypno session tonight and I feel calmer. I think I have the tools to be able to get through the next week and abit. I've also just read the blog that Tilly sent and feel a little better. plus DP and I have made up so at least we are back on the same side.

Choco I'm thinking about you loads. I really hope that everything is ok for you. It is so unfair.

Fairy good luck for your scan tomorrow. Fingers crossed that it is fine for you and you can move forward and enjoy your pregnancy.

Noks how are you today? I'm thinking of you too.

Much love to you all. Sleep well.

Shazza xxx

Hello ladies

Sorry for the radio silence. Operation Keep Noks Away From The Bloody Interweb has been in full swing since symptom spotting (or lack of symptoms) became not so much an informative pastime as a national obsession for me. So, Portobello Market on Saturday morning and pub for a non-alcoholic beer and fish and chips in the evening. I took Mr Noks to the local sculpture exhibition on on Sunday, but he became a liability the minute he opened his mouth so we went shopping and went home to watch the Grand Prix instead. Then today, went to Tate Britain and to mum and dad's for dinner. It's the only way, short of chopping my hands off, of stopping me from checking every twinge on the Internet and convincing myself that bad things have happened. Apart from annoyingly tender damn knockers today, nothing. Anyway....

Thanks for all the kind words ladies. I really appreciate the support. All of this takes you to such dark places, doesn't it ? I thought it would be bad, but not this bad.

euro am glad you're back safely. Your post made me really feel for you. You have been through so much and I admire your resolve to get there one day. I so know that you will.

choco oh my goodness, I so hope that you and mini choco are going to be ok. I am thinking of you both and praying that you will get through this. I couldn't believe it when I read your post. It's all so random and unfair.

shazza sounds like you have really been through it this weekend my love. You poor thing. Trouble with blokes is, they just have no understanding of how all this works for us. They may try but they just don't get it. I think they see things in black and white - either you are pregnant or not, and don't get the fact that we need constant reassurance from them and our bodies. You are strong enough to get through this and will find a way to, just try to have faith in yourself to stay strong and in Shazlett to stay where she is.

dildals I am sorry to hear of your troubles too. Are you alright now ? The description if your twinnies going mad did make me smile ! In honour of their Welsh heritage, I think we should nickname them Daff and Dill.

fairy best of luck for the scan tomorrow. I really hope that you have some good news for us. We need cheering-up here !

tills are you feeling a bit more positive now ? I hope so. And stop with the sodding ice skating will you ? Toffo will not appreciate it !

keeps how are you doing ? Still enjoying your bfp ? Did you ever get to the bottom of swimgate ?.?!

I really hope that tomorrow brings us more positive thoughts and the strength to see us all through this crazy process. See how serious I am, I haven't even fucking swore in this e-m........oh, hang on a minute. .

Noks xx

Ps - hello to everyone else. Xxx

NO choco! That is so bloody unfair. I'm so sorry. Really hoping for good results on Wednesday.

shaz just do what you need to get through. A scan may not be the worst idea in the world?

fairy massive good luck for the scan today. 11+3; amazing! Is that your NHS 12 week scan? Then might you tell people?

nok good on you for keeping busy. I found the last two days the hardest of the whole process. When are you testing? Don't worry about no symptoms, I had nothing except the boobs, still don't.

Swim gate? I think in Thailand they just do nothing in their pregnancies, which is not how I want to do it. So I'm going to see the doc at the weekend and ask in more detail the reasons, then make my own decisions.

At the moment I'm just taking it one day at a time.

Morning girls

I hope you all had as peaceful night as possible. I managed to sleep through for the first time in a few days so I'm grateful for that. When I woke at 5.30 I decided to listen to the recording of my Hypno session last night so at least I can try to keep hold of the sense of calm that she gave me.

Dearest choco I hope you also find a way to cope with the awful wait ahead. You are in my thoughts today.

Keep I've decided not to go for a scan and to sit with these emotions and try to hang onto fairy's wise words that feelings are not facts. I dont know if you have already read the article that Tilly posted but it is such a comfort. I've book marked it and plan on reading it every day if I need to remind myself. You are right each day at a time.

Tilly thanks for sharing that blog. I hope that you are feeling steadier on your feet and a little more relaxed. It makes sense what she says about your body naturally trying to keep the symptoms under control to maintain balance.

Euro I hope the jet lag is passing. Do you have nice Easter plans? I too admire you enormously. I know I keep saying it but it's true.

Noks well done for keeping busy. An admirable schedule you had this weekend. I'm impressed and also inspired. I tend to hide away when I'm feeling vulnerable (that was part of the row about this wedding) whereas DP thinks its important to get out and about with family and friends. You have inspired me not to hide away this Easter weekend. I'll be in London if anyone fancies meeting up? Let's see how we feel this week.

Dildals yet again Noks has surpassed herself. Daff and dill is so cute. I hope all 3 of you are ok today.

Fairy thank you for your kind and supportive words. You are so right and I will try to hang onto those thoughts. Good luck for today. I got my date for the scan through yesterday, 7 may. If I get that far I'll be 12+4.

Hello to everyone else, karbea, cupcake, Scarlett and anyone else lurking. I hope you are all ok. You are still part of the gang.

I'm resolved to have a more positive day today with absolutely NO googling about symptoms. Enough already.

Have a good day.

Shaz xx

Hi everyone.

Thinking of you today Choco and hope that something good can happen. I am sending you all my best vibes for peace and comfort and all good things. If you are feeling scared or angry or sad come and see us, we're all here with big hugs waiting for you.

Shazza good idea re hypnotherapy. Glad the little blog helped. It helped me. I am sure that all this is not good for the spirit. For any of us, whatever we're going through. I am off work next week and am booking a mani, pedi, hair cut (not colour), and a facial.

I booked a car park space at work so don't have to skate down the street. I am too old for doing the splits. It's hurty and isn't a pretty sight.

Big hello to everyone else xx

Morning Gorgeous Girls

So up, dressed and ready to potter around today. I will NOT be using the Internet for researching anything to do with pregnancy or 2ww symptoms. Repeat.....

choco am really hoping that things work out for you and will be thinking bout you both today. Xxx

keeps I test on Saturday. I am really resisting the temptation to test early and it's HARD ! I think I'll be ok though as I am paranoid about getting a false result before the date the hospital have given me. Glad to hear that you were almost symptomless though apart from the sore bristols.....gives me some hope!

I have got a bit of a metallic taste in my mouth which started before I went to bed last night and has continued today. Can anyone shed any light on this ? Haha, just realised the utter hypocrisy of what I have just said....oooooohhh I won't look on the Internet for symptoms but I'll just tell you lot bout them and ask you to comment.

shazza it's hard not to lock yourself away because you feel like all you want to do is cry or get upset and people won't understand why. But, it can actually make you forget about all the stress of this for a few moments and it's really nice ! Believe me, it keeps you sane because thinking about this constantly is bound to turn you into a proper basket case ! I am a bit reluctant to make plans for Saturday or Sunday because I test on Saturday and I don't know how I'm going to feel, but would love to do something during the day on Friday (which is Good Friday) if you (or any of the others) are about. Mr Noks will be working so I won't have him to boss about . Anyway, let me know and if we can, we can make plans.

Hope everyone else is ok. I was told to watch nice things which make you laugh or feel good during the 2ww. So I will be finishing off my French crime drama series 'Spiral Gangs of Paris' and finally starting The Killing. Love a bit of Scandi crime drama ! Silly fluffy old rom coms are for girls. .

Noks xx

Hello Noks I don't want to get your hopes up but I had a strange metallic taste in my mouth what turned out to be the week before I got bfp. After much googling of symptoms apparently this is one. Mine disappeared just before the bfp. But like I say, I hope this doesn't give you false hope. I've got everything crossed for you. Praying for Saturday.

I'm around on Friday at some point. Anyone else?
Xx

choco thinking of you. Waiting is the worst.

noks Daff and Dill are brilliant names. :)

BTW, the metallic taste is a classic symptom (although one I never had). I was the same about making plans. Just go with the flow when you get there. It's easier I think that stressing about knowing you have agreed to go out and be sociable when you might be feeling miserable.

The Killing is really good. We got halfway through the third series and then missed an episode when we were on holiday, so we are waiting for it to get a bit cheaper on DVD to pick it back up.

Shazz unfortuantely Easter is not likely to be a 4 day weekend for me, but if I pull my finger out this week, I might be able to get a day or two off. And then after this deadline is done, in mid-April, my schedule will ease quite a bit.

AFM, I'm still flipping tired this morning, but in the office and managing to plod along. I temped this morning for the first time in ages and it was nice and low, so it looks like my progesterone has dropped as it should have and I haven't oved yet (which is good as I was too knackered to dtd yesterday as planned - it was day 14 and I usually ov day 14-16 although I have no idea what the mc will have done to my cycle). I also tested and there was still the faintest hint of a line. Hmm. I hope it was just a trace of the hormone in the cup I use rather than a sign that the mc didn't manage to get rid of all of the pregnancy tissue. I'll test again tomorrow, with a paper cup to make sure.

Hi all -very quick posting at work on v busy day but had 11+3 scan this morning and saw a lovely little foetus in there (foetus is not a pleasant word but it doesn't seem right to call it a baby yet) with everything in the right place. He or she was flipping and flapping around and is 5cm long. No wonder I am busting out of my trousers (I am quite short anyway and short waisted so no room for it - definitely nothing to do with the toast and marmalade I am living on...). So very relieved.

Best wishes to you all! Ps Noks I had a metallic taste too and lots of extra saliva...just saying...

Hello ladies

Fairy that's lovely news. Congratulations. What a relief. So can you 'come out' now and tell everyone or have you done that already?

Gosh euro fingers crossed it was the cup. I've never taken my temp whilst TTC this might sound dumb but do you just use a normal thermometer under the tongue?

I've had a better day. Still concerned of course but managed not to google and I'm not freaking out like yesterday. I'm going to take Noks' advice and go dancing tonight. I didn't go last week cause I was too anxious.

Choco how are you honey? I hope you managed to rest abit. Xx

Love shaz xx

Morning girls

I hope you are all ok.

Good luck for today Choco. Thinking of you. Xx

Hey girls
choco I'm thinking of you today x

shaz I'm glad you went dancing, how was it? I really think staying away from Google's a Good Thing. Only 8 days till your scan!

fairy that's just brilliant news! Do you feel a bit more relaxed now? Can I ask when you stopped on the progesterone? Anyone else know? I think my doc said 6-8 weeks depending on my levels, but I'm not sure if he meant 6-8 weeks pg, or 6-8 weeks from then, I was rather flustered.

noks I think you'll be 16dpEC on sat, so should get a clear answer. My 14dpEC with a crap test was a real headf*

euro I guess it's not that surprising to get a faint line at, what, two weeks post m/c? I don't know. I hope it goes off soon, and you can move forwards. You must be exhausted. And your job sounds crazy.

No time off for Easter here, but it's Thai new year next month which'll be awesome.