Excellent Egg Buddies continued! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in Jan, Feb and March 2013 please join us!

[fairypangolin]

We've run out of room on Karbea's Jan IVF thread and it is too much fun to stop! We're all getting into comfy clothes and enjoying the side effects and surprises (and occasionally some hand holding).

Northey that sounds tough. I feel for you. It's hard at the best of times but if you are alone it is doubly difficult. Do whatever you need to do to look after yourself. Can you call in sick on Friday or book leave?

Keep good luck for EC. Will be thinking of you.

Euro, I hope that your appt tomorrow gives you some peace of mind. Thinking of you too.

Hello to everyone else. Hope you are all having a good evening.

Love shaz xx

euro thinking of you for tomorrow

Norf that's shit. My work has really ramped up unexpectedly too. It should be taking my mind off things, but instead I am just not doing as much as I should be and stressing about that as well.

Thanks for your thoughts ladies.

I have gone from being completely pessamistic for a few days after the scan, to relentless searching the internet for stories of good outcomes after a poor first scan. None of this is helping but I just can't stop myself. Meh. By 10am tomorrow, the limbo will be over.

How are you doing choco.

Thank you everyone...it's been a tough day.

I went to work which really helps me, it's so busy and today we had an off site meeting with loads of workshops and group work so my mind was kept occupied. I of course burst into tears the minute I left! People that knew wanted to offer sympathy, which is lovely, but hugs and I'm sorry, we're too much to handle luckily they understood.

DH has been lovely of course and my parents were very sympathetic and encouraging that it will happen...

I phoned the clinic this morning and left a message and no one has called me...that's annoyed me! The nurse I usually deal with left last week and she normally always called at lunchtime if not before...I'm not sure what to do. I have stopped my meds though...everything. I'm already getting pre period symptoms and am moody as hell...I have had such a bad temper today.

Did you all count ET as day 1? I'm supposed to test 16days post ET which is today if you count ET as day 1 but tomorrow if day 1 is day after ET. It obviously doesn't matter now as 1 day is not going to make a difference but half way through the day I had a horrible panic about it being positive if I had waited till tomorrow and now I had stopped my meds I could cause myself to lose it! Totally irrational I know....what a twat!

euro major big bags of good luck for tomorrow...will be thinking of you
north I'm sorry that you are alone...I couldn't deal with that right now, stay strong Hun...big hugs
keep good luck for EC...I'm sure they will have timed it all down to the last second
dildals don't stress if you really don't have to...go to the EPU and get the answers you need...
sharon ouch on the tender ovaries...try a hot water bottle
scarlett great growing!

I'm absolutely shattered today...it's weird the drugs never made me feel tired infant just the opposite and today I am totally wiped out

Hopefully I will get to speak to the clinic tomorrow and booked in for a follow up

Night xx

choco too early for symptom spotting...just relax and be a good oven. Are you off work or back to normal?

I think it is an emotional reaction, hont. I have been exhausted ever since my bfn. Of course, a tiny part of my brain files it away as potential evidence that perhaps, despite the period and the umpteen negative tests, I am secretly pregnant after all...

north it must be so hard living apart from your partner... I would stuff work, personally, and call in sick. It might be a while to get another appointment otherwise.

So, mil-who-knows-not-of-ivf was meant to go home this am, but lost her passport! So now we have to sort out with the embassy etc etc, and somehow have EC tomorrow. Dh adamant he doesn't want to tell her. Grrr.

honty I agree, emotions more tiring than drugs. Test again today to put your mind at ease, I've tested during/after AF before as am crazy

Hope you're OK choco

euro I echo northey, I'm both hoping for a miracle, and sending you love and good wishes if there isn't one.

Morning girls!

Keep I don't know how you are managing. I suppose at least you are occupied. No time for worrying.

Euro, thinking of you. Loads of love xxx

Have a good day everyone. More later.

Shazza xxx

Sorry to hear you're struggling northey I'd second keep on stuffing work [but I work from home mostly so thats easy for me to say]

euro good luck today

honty shit news sorry to hear that love x

choc I've discovered a whole new world of mocktails and non-alcoholic lager - Erdinger alcohol free white beer tastes the same as normal imo, and sainsburys do a lovely range of mocktails, I treid mojitos & peach bellinis last weekend are you going out for DH's birthday or having a party? parties are easier to cover non-drinking..

shaz I had to laugh at your OH's dirty ginger secret, and ou finding out under the sheets My OH has a ginger beard when he goes snowboarding mostly as that's when he can't be arsed to shave for a weekbut I think that's quite common

strikeout fail lol x

shaz I can easily multitask, worry and do something else... How's things your end?

Dh has told her I'm having a non serious op under GA, and we don't want to talk about it. What would you think that was?

Any tips for EC, wise ladies? I've been told to stay two hours after.

keep she probably thinks it is an ingrown toenail. Seriously though, I would never think of EC if someone told me abt having a non serious op.

Hot Tips for EC:

• have your fella get your fav food ready for afters because you will be ravenous. Personally I had him on standby with a cheese melt panini.
• take a cab home and relax, I definitely felt groggy afterwards, not in super pain but not feeling well. The next day I felt OK, but was not 100% with it. I kept dropping stuff and thinking irrationally. For example, I kept worrying about having offended the anaesthetist, I asked him whether he had taken my swim goggles after I came out of the GA. Surely everyone talks rubbish after coming out of EC.
• Prepare yourself mentally for the call back on 2 vs 5 day transfer. That was one of my hardest moments, I was a wreck.
• Think of all the questions you want to ask the embryologist beforehand and write them down. If you are anything like me you will forget them the moment you have the embryologist on the phone. Get your fella's questions on the list too. Nothing more annoying than DH asking you 'but why is this and that' and your reasoned answer is 'how the hell should I know?'

Euro how was it?

AFM (learned a new acronym) - I didn't go to EPU yesterday because I thought it was prob nothing and I don't want to waste NHS resources on my tiny bit of blood and worries. People are dying you know. I know, I know.... Anyway. I went this morning and have a scan booked in at 2 today. Can I just say I was VERY impressed with the level of organisation at St Thomas EPU. Everyone always complains about the NHS but I only have really good experiences tbh. Anyway - we'll see later this afternoon how the twins are doing.

Dildals I hope the scan goes well. Good EC advice.

keep I bolted within 10 minutes of waking up, despite the best efforts of Mr Euro and the clinic. I think they only wanted me to stay for 20-30 mins, but I wasn't having any of it. Definitely take food and drink. I was starving after being nil by mouth.

My scan did not bring good news. The 2mm yolk sac has turned into a 2mm embryo, but the main sac hasn't grown at all. It is all way behind where it should be and I have been told to continue the cyclogest and come back in a week, but the most likely outcome is miscarriage. Mr Euro and I have talked about it and we have decided to stop the cyclogest now and let it happen. It clearly isn't developing properly and it is probably only the prgesterone stopping the inevitable. It seems kinder (for it and us) to just let go now. And on a practical level, if the progesterone withdrawal does trigger a bleed, there is a chance I can get the worst over before I head off on my work travels.

Hi all

Just a very quick one as I am on the iPad at work. Sorry for the lack of personals.

euro totally shit news. Am really sorry for you. I think you've made absolutely the right decision. I am thinking of you, mini-euro and Mr Euro.

dildals good luck for the scan. I hope the dildals twinnies are doing ok.

Speak later crazy cats.

Noks

Ps - if I eat any more protein, I will f'king scream.

Couldn't resist. Hope norf and honts are feeling a bit better. Lots of Nokkie love to you both. X

euro have been checking all morning to see your post and really sorry to hear your news. You have to do whatever you feel is best for you x

Euro just checking back in to say I'm sorry, I had been keeping everything crossed for you. Look after yourself and let Mr Euro make a fuss of you too.

didals I hope you have good results at your scan.

honty so sorry to hear your sad news.

keep good luck, I hope EC goes well!

at everyone else.

AFM - DH has just got a new job, with a smaller commute so he'll be home in the week and on better money so we are celebrating.
We've been living apart in the week for so long, it's going to be weird having him home full time. northey I know how horrible it is, hopefully you and your partner will be back together soon.
It's nice that even though some parts of our lives are shite others are looking up. I have been emailing him links to expensive restaurants and nice holidays with the hope he will book something for my birthday in a couple of months. Physically I am recovering well, although I have some amazing coloured bruises coming out all over the place.

delilah our first thought today was a holiday! I really want to have something nice to focus on. I am also going to get my hair dyed and get some laser hair zapping done.

I'm glad you are recovering well after your horrible ordeal.

Thanks for your kind thoughts and words. I have just had my first cup of proper coffee since NY and a shedload of chocolate! I might crack open the wine tonight. There are several advantages to being non-preggo!

Euro words cannot express it. My thought are with you and mr euro. Look after each other. Sending you love and courage. Shaz xx

More later.

Shazza x

euro sorry to hear your news. I had a similar thing happen to me in 2011, with the embryo not developing properly. I had to have an ERPC in the end. Agree with your choice though of stopping the cyclogest. As soon as you know (which you do if it hasnt' developed properly in a week) it is best to just get it over with so you can carry on and focus on the next thing.

honty It's the emotions that tire you out definitely. Take it easy. x
northy shit, I don't envy you girl with your partner not being there! I was already moaning about DH being out on the lash 2 days in a row.

AFM (god, I am becoming a proper MN'er! Please stop me if I ever start using the phrase baby dust though!) The scan was absolutely fine. Of course I had worried about nothing. Twinnies have grown (they grow a mm a day) and one was wriggling around. They've no clue as to what caused the bleeding. She did point out I have a Monster Follicle. It's six cm! F##k me. That's big. I hate to think how big my ovary is, holding this Frankenstein Follicle.

Dear Fat Lady - Can Fairy and I please have some other BFPs to play with?

Great news on the scan dildals. I'll try my hardest to join you in bfp land. I've been feeling nauseous all day but I'm sure it's all in my head/evil progesterone

Scarlett the mocktails and beer sound good. It's at sil's house so hopefully no-one will notice what I'm drinking. Have also got to sneak off to do Gestone jab!

Will catch up properly later. Am meant to be writing school reports ...

scarlet I have heard good stories about the Weissbier too, I have it in my fridge but not tried it yet. Also really like the Sainsbury's sparkling wine. I tried the Natureo wine they have in Waitrose. Foul. Don't buy it.

euro sorry to hear that, enjoy the wine , are you going to take a couple of months off before getting back on the horse?

delilah I'm glad there's some good stuff happening too, albeit with colourful bruises!

Ummm, quick TMI question - for the last 2 days I been literally leaking white CM, is this normal??? I remember that the trigger shot produced buckets of EWCM last time, but I don't remember this

I have also developed a stitch like band around my lower tummy - mind you on dat 10 of stims I'm not surprised, and taking this as a good sign, I had pains on my left side this morning so hopefully the stims are doing their job on those smaller follies...

Final scan tomorrow! And I'm now off work til next Thursday [although I'm planning on spending 2 of the 4 days leave in hospital ]

Good luck keep for the morning xx

dildals I have a bottle of that sparkling wine in my fridge, might drink it this week with my sister

I have big sore boobs too usually only get that 5-7 days before the witch lands