Excellent Egg Buddies continued! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in Jan, Feb and March 2013 please join us!

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We've run out of room on Karbea's Jan IVF thread and it is too much fun to stop! We're all getting into comfy clothes and enjoying the side effects and surprises (and occasionally some hand holding).

I am strangely at peace as well, vallinna. I think because now I can just accept that this is it, and I'd done the sadness in principle in advance.

Can I pick your brains about frozen cycles? Do they involve drugs, or is it more a monitor-and-insert-embryo-at-appropriate-moment thing? What is the pill for? And if my period starts now, it would be the cycl afterwards when I could crack on with frosties (ie halfway through April, assuming cycles are normal length)?

northey maybe peasants up your fanjo is the answer after all... Sorry to hear about your result x

Quick update, ive definitely got 3, maybe a 4th but my ovary was hiding behind my bowel 1 at 10mm the others at 12mm so looking good so far!

Nurse wad lovely and said at my age we should get good quality eggs so very optimistic, bless.

Kept dose same as it is working, back on Monday!

I will suggest it at my cycle review appointment, scarlett and see what they say :o Well done on growing eggs!

val so sorry about the BFN, but I'm glad you feel at peace with it.

Norf I haven't done a frozen cycle but I "know" people on these boards who have. You have the choice of natural or medicated. For natural, you monitor when you are going to ovulate with pee sticks/scans and they put the embryo back 5 days after ovulation. For medicated, I'm not exactly sure what drugs they use.

Scarlett nice growing!

No, north, the ov stopping one is just a pre filled jabbing thing. And I do it at night with the others... scar are you on an ov-stopping one too?

Oh god, hont am now convinced I'll get ohss. Argh!
Doc said this new anti ov drug would stop it rising. Oh, the mentalling!!

shaz I don't feel bloated yet. Though do feel a bit different, just went swimming and it felt a bit odd. I'm always surprised how big follies are and the eggs are so small..

van so sorry.

north I assumed he meant we could do the very first cycle, ie mid march, for fet. You don't have to take the pill, they can just do it round your normal cycle and pop it in at the right point. Have you rung then?

Vall I'm sorry that sounds like a rough situation. Is DS ok? You have so much in your plate with feeling physically illl also. Can DH look after both of you today? Keep warm and cosy if you can.

Scarlett well done on the developments 'down there'. its encouraging to know that things are going in the right direction.

Euro, enjoy your day to yourself.

I don't have any side effects to speak of. My nose feels funny and I'm aware of my abdomen but that is probably psychological. Oh and I snapped at DP last night but that was more to do with the fact that he was being really annoying rather than the drugs!

Love to all

Shazza xx

Answer phone only on Saturdays, so I just hung up. Will write a email later, so I can include all the questions I'll want to discuss when they phone me back. Like when can I start again...

Northey at my clinic it is standard to have a cycle review after a failed cycle of any type. At mine the standard 'straight away' is to have this bleed and then start on the next one. They want to get your uterus back to normal.

There are two types of FET - natural and HRT. The medication during an HRT FET is solely to prep your lining. No bloods, all scans. I do not ovulate so I was always going to be on the HRT - and will need to take the pill to induce a bleed to get started (no ovulation = no period).

Protocols vary. A friend of mine had to down reg, I didn't. My only experience is of the HRT cycle. In my abandoned cycle I took oestrogen tablets for 9 days, was then scanned every 3 days. For most people this is enough (or they increase the number of tablets you take). For me, I didn't respond so they added oestrogen patches too. After a few days on these I started to spot so they abandoned the cycle.

This time I started straight on higher strength patches, then they added progynova and baby aspirin.

I guess after my review I will know the protocol for next time. I am guessing it will be the same - they may wait slightly longer to transfer to see if my lining does anything better than 6.5mm.

HTH

Northey valinna Euro keep your hopes up for the future and stay happy. We'll all get there in the end.

I'm being spoilt by everyone I know - lots of cards/flowers/chocolates/home-made baked goods/visits. Slightly surprised as I didn't really rate myself as having that many friends. DH being wonderful, hugging me when I need it and making me endless cups of tea - I have been told not to lift the kettle as it's too heavy, or do any housework for a couple of weeks so will be taking full advantage of this.

Slowly becoming more positive. We had takeaway pizza and wine with friends yesterday, and today I am enjoying a nice strong coffee - basically treating myself with the things you should avoid when pregnant.

So, after I'm recovered and have had 6 months to get physically fit, we may consider a FET in September/October time.

Morning all

I did it and...BFN ...DH is saying it is too early 4 days till OTD could change things...I not sure but will try and stay positive

north I'm really sorry for your BFN...on my letter from the clinic it says if you get a BFN on OTD then stop all drugs immediately. Here's to a successful FET cycle...lets look forward and be positive

van sorry to hear your news too...but still 2 days till OTD...

keep great number of follies Hun...

euro love having the day to myself....pamper yourself....enjoy!

Got to go and have breakfast DH tummy rumbling and it is his birthday....poor guy doesn't even get a birthday jump on his 40th

Xx

Morning all

This post will be totally out if sync with the rat if the thread. I started it this morning but then had to leave it as was going to acupuncture and shopping with Mr Noks. I have just got back so I will finish this and catch-up with the thread in a bit.

Begorrah, wtf do they out in those drugs ? Been proper wiped out and didn't rise from my pit until 10am. Went to bf's last night has have been stuck in all week and, clearly now I'm old and drug addled (and NOT in a class A way) I couldn't handle the excitement and had to come in and go to bed. what a fucking lightweight you are

Anyhoooo

Northey - how are you doing ? Really so sorry to hear about your bfn honey. Was cheering loudly for you from the sidelines here. . I blame the bloody peasants. X

Keep - from shazza's post I take it you have follies the size of footballs ? Well done ! X

Valinn - am also really really sorry to hear about your bfn too. I was cheering just loudly for you too. X

Shazza - am here. Will catch-up in a bit.

Noks x

Honty - just posted my ridiculously jet lagged post and have just seen yours. Am also really sorry for you too honey. Was hoping you would have had a transatlantic bfp. Nxx

Delilah - great to hear from you and glad you're doing ok. Hopefully the sun will shine a bit brighter each day from now on.

Noks x

Hi to everyone else and hope scans etc went well.

I had my scan yesterday i just love a fannycam up the khyber pass on a friday afternoon and am now on stimms. The nurse took me through how to inject and when she took the needle out of the case I was quite scared nearly laid a fucking egg, which is SO ironic. So after lots of muttering and pontificating needless twatting about the place I did it and it wasn't as bad as I thought. I still have to take the nasal spray twice a day to stop me from ovulating at the wrong time, which I didn't realise so am on my way. I very nearly laid my second egg of the session when she said EC could be as early as 9th March, which is a preposterous reaction, as that's the whole point of the exercise.

I have just done my second jab and that went well too.

So, here we all are then.....

Now, I'm going out with MR Noks for some Thai scran later and wondered if I should have a glass of red or not. What are your thoughts ?

Noks xx

delilah great to hear from you and wonderful that you have had so much support from those around you.

Nokkie I'm glad the jabbing is going well. I think after all the waiting we have done it is normal to have a "what, already???" reaction to getting to EC and ET. Most of us have had a very long slow journey to that point.

honty sorry about the BFN, but the fat lady is still sitting in the corner with duct tape over her mouth, so don't give up yet. Why no birthday jump for your hubby? Did the clinic put you on a sechs ban? Advice on that seems to vary hugely from place to place.

sharon imagine if we have met in RL at soho house....

Cheers Euro. I should have said 11th march, not 9th. I did have a word with myself though as I shouldn't have been that shocked!

How are you doing ? Xx

Total sechs ban euro...apparently no orgasms until 7 wks if preggers!!!!

Sorry I'm kind of dipping in and out hence the 1 line posts...off for a bike ride on the Hudson now and picnic on the pier...

noks have your glass of red and enjoy it

Xx

Evening ladies!

shazza glad the sniffs are getting easier and you definitely need to stay away from google she says wisely, conveniently forgetting the googling I've been doing all afternoon especially DM.

delilah glad you're being well looked after. Take care.

euro have you had a nice chilled out day?

keep good news about your scan

hont boo to the bfn. New York sounds fab, have a great time!

scarlett good about the scan. They always refer to my 'swirling bowel' during scans

val sorry about the bfn

noks the good ol' drugs do wipe you out. I can associate with being surprised it's happening so soon.

AFM, had my 2 day transfer today of my 3 cell embie and all seemed to go well. Have been resting and pottering this afternoon and just feeling really lucky still to have got this far. OTD 15th March, which is a standard 15dpec at our clinic.

Sorry if I've missed anyone.

Well done choco ! You must be thrilled. I'll be sending you all the bambino dust I can lay my hands on. Nxx

Hont - that's all the validation I need. Ta ! Enjoy your picnic and bike ride !

honty I'm so sorry for the bfn. What a crappy day for pee sticks. I really hope it's just too early. Also at no orgasms till 7 weeks...

choco many congrats on ET. That must be a relief to get there - I have a lot of hurdles before then. Hope you have lots of plans for the hideous tww.

nok welcome to stimming! I'm also surprised at how quick it goes, am sure post EC will drag though. You'll likely be just a few days behind me.

Delilah lovely, glad you are being looked after so well. Don't hurry back to work.

euro I'm still hoping all will be well for you. Hope your day on your own was good. Sometimes I love them.

Morning ladies
I was off radar y'day, more of that in a bit.

Delilah so lovely to hear that you are feeling a little bit better. It will take a while but I'm glad you and DH have a more positive plan for the future. Loads of love to you both.

Honty NYC sounds amazing but I'm so sorry for the bfn. Fingers crossed it is abit too early for you. Can you hold out til OTD now? When are you back?

Noks yay well done for stimming. I was worried that we hadn't heard from you and maybe something awful had happened at the scan. But I was obsessed that day about reading about women who didn't respond to DR so there was abit of projection there. Phew! ( and I've stopped googling)

Choco great news you have your little one on board. That is so exciting. Keeping everything crossed.

North, Vall are you 2 ok?

Keep, scarlett, Fairy, euro, dildals hello to you all.

This is long but I just wanted to quickly tell you. Y'day I went to a memorial for a college friend. There were people who I hadn't seem for 20 yrs. whilst chatting, 1 woman mentioned her 3 yr old twins who she had fought so hard to get and of course I knew immediately. To cut a long story short. We ended up talking about it and she said she was successful on her 6th go. Blimey! I wasn't sure I would be ever be able to try for that long and everyone is different and of course finances are a massive sticking point for us but now my eyes are open to the fact that we should never give up. The whole afternoon taught me that life is for embracing and never giving up on your dreams. My friend who passed was a year older than me leaving 3 children under 4. It is tragic but it was such a positive and lovely afternoon. In a strange way I had a great day and feel full of positivity today. Sending some your way.

Love shaz xxxxx

honty We weren't told anything like that. Mind you, the ick of the cyclogest slowed us down considerably! I have to say though, the first proper sff in more than 2 years, high on preggo hormones was absolutely fucking amazing.

BTW, when I was horny as hell during the 2ww I stumbled across this thread www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9452.0 The advice given by clinics differs hugely. So I decided to just go for it. And it doesn't seem to have done any harm. Embarryo might not be developing properly, but he seems to be stuck fast.

Hurrah choco. And now the wait begins...

sharon - 6 goes. Wow. I'm not sure I will have the mental strength to keep going for that long. We said 3 natural/mild cycles in 6 months at the outset. It's not set in stone but for us it was good to have a set point where we would take a step back and reassess.

Thanks ladies. I did have a nice day yesterday. Went for a run, watched Three Colours: White and then Mr Euro and shooting friend came back for dinner in the evening. They caned their way through rather a lot of (my really nice) wine. I watched. I am 99% sure it's all over, but until I start bleeding I suppose I better act pregnant. Meh.

Hi euro
I know. In not sure I could manage 6. I'm just concentrating on this one. I had no plan beyond this go but now I know that I have to see it as potentially a longer journey and that all my eggs are not necessarily in this basket if you know what I mean.

I hope you are wrong about it being over. Barryo is hanging on in there. Here's to hoping he keeps on growing. x