Ttc after recent mc, for Creme egg scoffers, shared confusion and joint cursing of mother nature

[Thundercatsarego]

I couldn't bring myself to call her a bitch, we still need her help! Come on ladies, let's do this thing....

[Bakingtins]

Sorry IBIP hoped it would be a BFP for you. Make sure you have a fab time in the hot tub with a glass of champers to console yourself. Hope the witch waits till after the weekend.

Amelie I'm afraid a few odd cycles is par for the course. How far post MC are you? It's not over till AF gets you, I've had a odd day of mid cycle bleeding several times and no idea what it means have always hoped it was implantation but been proved wrong give it a few days and test again if still no AF. Do you know when you ov'd this cycle?

[AmelieRose]

No idea when I ov'd unfortunately. I thought it was round about the 20th of Jan but I think I was wrong. If that was a period then I should be ov round about now.

I'll keep in mind what you've said though - if no proper AF then I'll retest next week.

[SpanishLady]

Sorry IBIP but have a great trip.

I tested today and got a BFN - strange to be happy about that! So I haven't bleed for 3 days now and got a BFN and I have to admit I do feel more myself Z well - boobs and belly have both gone back done.

I got promoted at work yesterday and got an ok pay rise and bonus so am going to treat my little boy to the main Octopod thingy from the Octonauts programme which is his current favourite.

Now just need an AF and DH says we can try again.


Fx to everyone else

[Bodicea]

Hi been a while. Marking my place in the new thread.
Wasn't TTC this month as getting blood tests so tried to stay away from Mumsnet for a bit and just forget about TTC.

Bakingtins - congratulations, fab news. So chuffed for you.

I got my first set of blood results back today and the results took me by surprise. I tested borderline for antiphospholipid syndrome. Had a repeat test but midwife says they will probably put me on clexane when I get pregnant anyway whatever the results. Going on baby aspirin straight away. Mixed feelings about this. It was a bit of a shock. I am glad I tested after only two MCs instead of the recommended three. I wish the test had been more conclusive and I don't relish the idea of injecting myself in my stomach everyday but I am glad we have something we can do something proactive to stop this happening again. I also tested high for fibrinogen levels and midwife isn't sure what that means but I know its to do with clotting too so I guess clexane can't hurt for that either. Need to do a bit more research.

Spanish I would say if you are thinking about baby aspirin do it. I thought it about it last time I was pregnant and decided not to as I thought I was being over the top. Bitterly regret it now.

[BoyMeetsWorld]

Hi all,

Just been reading this thread - so lovely to see positive news for some :)

I mc'd at Christmas. Have TTC a few times this month (after normal AF last month) but actually done a bout turn now....I've persuaded myself it's terrible timing for my career etc & we should wait until may to TTC. DH is gutted. Obviously, if fate wills, this months' bunny antics will have done the trick & of course we'd be overjoyed.

I do wonder if a part of me's just too scared to go through it again...reading tales if others who have had multiple mc's I just feel like I'm not strong enough to do that :s

Good luck to all!

[BrieMonster]

bakingtins I am so stoked for you!! Think I can stop stalking my old pals on this thread now. Hope everything goes smoothly as I think you're due a happy healthy not-even-a-hint-of-sickness-or-discomfort pregnancy!

[Thundercatsarego]

Afternoon everyone! You alright?

shell how are you feeling today?

Hi bodicea, good to see you, but sorry it's a bit of a mixed time. I don't know the conditions that came up in your tests but it must be one positive if you have sonething you can actually do something about. Empowering in a way despite the other negatives?

ibip, sorry about the bfn. I guess you're not really surprised but it's still a bummer. You make sure you take full advantage of the spa and alcohol facilities- what a lovely treat and a lovely hubby.

zeu, yes to exhausted and achey after mc. This bit got me down really as I just wanted to get back to normal. After a couple of week's, I made a docs appointment and before I had it I started taking iron supplements on the epac doc's advice. In my appointment, the GP took blood tests and found out I was borderline anaemic (probably would've been anaemic if I hadn't started the iron beforehand) and also had low thyroid levels. I have to go back for a repeat thyroid blood test next month. So if you feel really drained for a long time, do consider asking advice.

[Thundercatsarego]

Ps hi brie, I love to hear from the graduates sometimes- reminds me there is hope!

[littlemissnorthernbird]

Hi everyone! Can I jump on board this thread too? You all sound like you are in the same position as me and would love to have people to share my mad thoughts and journey to conceive...and Creme eggs are just the best! Had early miscarriage in November...really messed up my body, just had very big dose of antibiotics to get over it...so hoping spring is going to be good to us! Following a moment of sadness this morning, decided to go out and buy fresh flowers and lots of daffodils in the garden! Time to get back into the swing of things...good luck to everyone on this thread! We'll get there soon....x

[Thundercatsarego]

Hi littlemiss, sorry that you've had a grim time but you're very welcome here. And thank you for your chirpy message too. I'd started to sink into humph mode this afternoon so it's nice to have a ray of sunshine, and flowers too- good call!

[littlemissnorthernbird]

It's so difficult isn't it! You think you are okay one minute and then the next minute you feel like crying! A friend came into work with her new born on Friday...She's gorgeous! I had baby cuddles but then I had to stop myself from crying! I feel as though I am in No mans land at the moment...want to move forward but can't help but remember the past! I guess that is how it is for us all here! That's why I saw this thread and thought 'here are people who know exactly what I'm going through at the moment'! But we're going to be positive now!

Spring is on its way...thats the season for new life! Bring it on! XXX

[grotbagz]

ibip ahhh! Love a good pampering! Enjoy yourself relaxing!

spanish congrats on the promotion and hope you're treating yourself! Glad you're feeling better!

littlemiss hi, such good vibes, made me smile!

bodicea sorry if you've answered before - I'm new! I've also had two, are the tests to see how you might be able to avoid it happening again? That's good they've given you some idea of preventative measures and can get back to it with some reassurance!

[AmelieRose]

littlemiss you're a tonic on a disappointing day. Here's to spring indeed!

[BrieMonster]

Hi thundercats I hadn't even realised it was you who started the thread... Liked the Mother Nature thing! Haven't really been stalking, just popping in every now and again looking for good news. And i liked you guys better than the crowd on my antenatal thread! I hope you are doing ok and crossing my fingers that you follow baking's footsteps real soon.

[Bakingtins]

Hi Brie good to hear from you!

[Bakingtins]

Is there a Laura Ashley graduates thread? Not sure I fancy an antenatal thread where they'll all think I'm completely paranoid.... Will hang around for a bit till it seems more real anyway, waiting for more BFPs and lots of Autumn babies to appear.

[littlemissnorthernbird]

Thanks for the kind words everyone! I have a positive feeling about this thread! You all seem so friendly! I feel better just having joined this thread! Good luck to us all! AF is due next week...but after antibiotics followed by wonderful bout of thrush (sorry if tmi!) I just not too sure this is the month! I do have sore boobs and did have a pregnancy dream the other night (that was the first symptom of my last pregnancy) but I know my emotions are all over the place and will just have to wait and see!

[GardenWorm]

IBIP that's rubbish, hopefully it hasn't spoilt your Spa wkd.
Bodicea briefly looked up anti phospholipid syndrome as I'd never heard of it. Do you feel a bit happier now you may have found a treatable cause? Think someone else asked but is it a standard thing that they test for or did you specifically ask for it because of your line of work? Also do you have it all along or can it just come on? Sorry for all the questions just not heard of it and curious, hope my being nosey doesn't upset you.

[Thundercatsarego]

brie I can't speak for everyone else but I love having the graduates on here as much as all the rest of us- we're all just at different stages after all. So- don't feel obliged to stay but do know that you are really really welcome. That goes for you too tins!

Maybe we can mane a Laura Ashley/Creme egg antenatal thread shortly when some more of us have our bfps?

littlemiss sounds promising but I have to say that bloody hormones create all sorts of symptoms...only from bitter experience! I reckon best to keep one foot on the ground and the other in the postive happy spring place you're currently in.

As for me, I'm just home from the pub .

[Bodicea]

garden worm and grotbagz. I had the standard blood tests that they offer to everyone with recurrent miscarriage. They are normally offered after three but our hospital is pretty easygoing and usually does them after two if people request them. I don't want to scare everyone and and make them think they need these tests but if you have had a couple of mc s then it is worth asking. I was tested for that As well as having a thrombophelia screen hence the high fibrinogen.. Also worth asking about taking baby aspirin after one I think. I don't know that much about it yet but I am sure will be an expert soon enough. I put a thread on the pregnancy section to get a few answers from people that have dealt/ dealing with it while pregnant. A few people have replied already - makes for interesting read - sounds hard to diagnose - hence all the repeats and possibly kickstarted by pregnancy. I guess I am glad I have something I can do although not sure if was the cause of my mcs but glad I found out now rather than miscarying carrying late in my next pregnancy!

[andadietcoke]

Helloooo! I found you all! And found a BFP too. Yay Tins!!! How are you doing? We definitely need a grads thread in AN - I have to keep reigning in my crazy on my AN thread.

[JBrd]

Bodicea Gosh, I bet that came unexpected! I'll be reading with interest, as I'm thinking of requesting blood tests in the near future. Although I've 'only' had the one mc so far, I have a history of blood clots - I spent 2 weeks in hospital last year after developing a clot in my lungs. And although they were pretty certain that it was the pill that caused it, I'm wondering if I should ask for blood tests to check for issues connected with that (like the antiphospholipid syndrome or fibrinogen).

I wouldn't worry too much about the clexane injections, you get used to them very quickly! I had to take clexane for a few months last year after my pulmonary embolism, and I will also have to go back on it when I get pregnant next time. It's really a very minor nuisance in the grand scheme of things.

But I do want to ask about the baby aspirin, as I keep coming across it. Is it recommended to start taking after having a mc before you get or once you are pregnant again? And who best to ask about it, the midwife? GP? Consultant? I tried to talk to my surgeon about it after having the ERPC, and she did say that there have been studies and that it could be beneficial, but she was very evasive (and I was too zoned out still from the GA to be able to start a proper discussion). Does anyone know more about it?

[Bodicea]

JBird you are supposed to take aspirin preconception. I am taking it now.
To have had a PE at a young age I am really surprised you haven't had a thrombophelia screen already once you came off the clexane. Do they know where the clot came from. Was it a dvt? Gosh the nhs is dreadful at following up people post dvt and pe. Seriously get a thrombophelia screen. You have to have it when you are not taking anything like clexane or aspirin or the results are affected. I am a bit passionate about this as I am a specialist vascular sonographer and it really upsets me when people come back to me with a second dvt and they never got followed up after the last one. Then they have to go on warfarin for life and they never find out if they actually had a predisposition or not. Rant over

[CamomileHoneyVanilla]

Hey folks,

(there is a bit of potentially upsetting stuff in here about natural miscarrige, don't read if fragile/sensitive about this.)

I'm tired and grouchy. Went in for D&C on Friday but ended up miscarrying naturally at the hospital instead. I'm 'glad', as would rather avoid the surgery and associated risks but still was a pretty horrible experience - I had to put the baby in sanitary towel bag after passing it and wander the ward clutching it while I searched for a nurse to give it to :-( - got ignored at nursing station).

At the second scan they also identified I have a malformation of the uterus called bicornuate uterus. I was 'reassured' that this is not what caused this miscarriage as a bicornuate uterus is associated with higher risk of second trimester miscarriage and pre-term birth, not first trimester miscarriage which, funnily enough was not particularly reassuring. There are very positive stories on here of people going to term, having healthy babies etc, but lots of scary stats/experiences on the internet in general too which naturally I'm paying far more attention to. Feeling a bit exhausted at the notion of how anxious I will now be for the entire duration of any future pregnancies. Still bleeding, in pain, upset at this bad news and generally feeling f^&ked off and sorry for myself. DSiL obsessed with posting pictures and quotes on facebook about the wonders of being a mum and how empty her life would be without her kids which is driving me bonkers. Husband lovely and sweet though.

___ (psychologically putting a line under that)


Disclaimer: I'm not terribly good at remembering everything/everone I want to respond to on these threads so apologies if I miss important stuff!

I would definitely be up for a Laura Ashley/Cream Egg ante-natal thread rather than joining on of the others {glares irrationally in the direction of the September 2013 thread - with exception of dietcoke and anyone else on there from here!}.

Bodicea (cool name btw) - sorry to hear you've had strange news too. Is it something they can do much about? Your post sounds reasonably positive so am hoping so. As you say, there is something positive in knowing in advance about these things (either to prepare psychologically for possibility of complications or, even better, being able to do something about it if interventions exist).

Hope you enjoyed your weekend IBIP.

Bzzbee and JBrd - I'm thinking of throwing myself in to the job hunting too. I've realised I was also really quite liking the notion of a year off and not getting that is a further blow. We deserve jobs that we like and plus it'll be nice and distracting. I've applied for one I like the look of already (during a positive moment) and hoping I'll have a bit of luck with that. Fingers crossed for you guys too.


Batkins - delighted for you - wonderful news.

[chocolateteabag]

Hi Camo - sorry to hear yyou've had a shite weekend, but at least you are on the "other" side of the MC and can now get on with recovering and looking forward. I haven't heard of a bicornuate uterus, do you know if/how they treat you in second trimester when you have it? Like you need something else to worry about once you've managed to get to 12 weeks!

CD2 today and working through the super tampons again, AF seems as heavy as the first one after mc weirdly, hope this is not a regular thing now

Right, going to try a name change - feel it's time.....