Good morning lovely ladies
Gosh - it has been busy on here. I will do my best to catch up.
Joy - I am soooo delighted that the London 2 are hanging on. Where there is life, there is hope. All of these tests are frightening and stressful. But do you know what, Dr's don't know everything and there is every chance that your babies are developing normally in relation to what is normal for your body. Someone else earlier said, how many women normally get the amount of checks that we do. There could be pregnant women walking around now with similar hcg and measurement results who are none the wiser. My Drs have been wrong on so many levels about things with me. I admire the strategies you are using. This is such a stressful time and it is great to hear you have positive and loving people all around you. Take care dearest Joy. xxxx
Kellie - welcome. It is a horrible feeling when those around keep getting pregnant so easily. This process really shakes us to the inner core of who we are. Sit tight and see what those test results bring - you are a step closer to your baby.
Pout - ooooo sorry for the headaches. It does seem to be a common side effect of down regging. It is not a nice process and moaning and being upset is 100% ok. Who else in the real world would just put up with these sorts of symptoms if they had to take medications that caused these types of side effects? Becuase it is fertility treatmemnt we are expected to soilder on.....but do you know what, these treatments are tough going and it is important to let off steam and say it sucks. You will be fine and will you will get your goal and although a cliche, it will be worth it. But very big hugs in the mean time sweetheart.
Rabbit - I am soooo glad you had a nice sympathetic Dr. I never quite know how to take it when people say they took a while to concecive. Usually that means 6 months and that type of experience just doesn't touch what we go through. However I am really pleased that your GP could empathise with what is happening. The post viral thing sounds likely - is there any treatment for that? Is the thryoid thing not treatable with short term meds? And how do you feel about the IUI option? Is she speaking from clinical experience with that recommendation? I think a second opinion is a great idea. One thing that is important to keep in mind is that you do have options (hopefully this applies to me too). IVF may be our answer but not the only way to conceive either. And none of your tests have ever been bad. I think you are like me and have a few mild multifactoral issues holding you back. From a statistical point of view, this just means it will take longer. From a real life point of view, it is heartbreaking and shattering. Glad you are out of the tent. Keep doing nice things and look in to that second opinion. I have heard about a lady Dr in the Birmingham area who is supposed to be brilliant with fertility via non IVF route - sorry don't know any more than that but maybe do some searches? The pelvic scan will be fine, I PROMISE. There is nothing to indicate you have new broids / cysts or other things of evil. But I know the worry will continue until the scan is over with. Not sure I entirely believe that bleeding is a sign of weak ovulation - I mean what does that mean? That the eggs doesn't pop out easily, or they are bad quality??? Someone with regular cycles and positive opk's and ok FSH such as yourself surely does not have weak ovulation. hmmmm
Nellie - sorry I am very behind with whats happening with you. But hooray for marching on with IVF round 2, ding ding. I thought Mr Nellie asked a brilliant question when he said "does the fact that you two produced good embryos overcome the AMH score issue". Please personally thank Mr Nellie from me. Although I have never had and hopefully never will have the AMH, it is reassuring to hear that by producing the embryos this is an indicater that AMH is no longer a huge hurdle. Doll's recent success is an enourmous boost to you and I. Often it just doesn't happen on the first go. Also I wanted to say sorry you were dupped by our freind Viv / whoever she is. But.....but but but, I have to say I am glad that you are the sort of person who would go to the aid of a stranger with some helpful and reassuring advice. In this awful cynical world in which we live I am always impressed when someone sticks their neck out and offers help even when there is a small niggle of doubt. I think it is great when people will do the right thing and don't stop doing the right thing even though there are others out there who will abuse it. Am I making sense? I just admire people who let the good shine through - that is you my lovely lady!!! However I am glad we now know she is back under her new name so we can be on guard.
Madness - you are not selfish at all. You are a lovely lady going through a hell of a tough time and are always here to pick others up when they are down. The side effects and doomy feeling are 100% normal. In fact if we all didn't take a trip to the tent now and again I think I would be more worried. It is inevitable with what we have to go through that we are going to get down. Sometimes I can hardly believe that we all manage to hold down busy jobs, social lives, run houses, have hobbies, do family things etc when you consider the level of burden upon us. I just don't think other people in real life could handle it. Being in the tent can be helpful as it enables us to get in touch with our feelings and fears and then create a new plan of action. Sorry about the ex-bf. But thank goodness you aren't having babies with him and thank goodness you will be having babies with Mr Madness to create a mini madness. 
. I understand the fear that the scarring has grown back. Wish we had a window to peek inside. But in all honestly it would take years for things to get back in to the condition they were again. Onwards and upwards towards stimming for you sweetheart - not much longer.
Euro - I am sooo excited to hear that you need a bigger bra (said in the way that ony ttc 10+ ers could say of course 
). And I am glad to hear you have been a bit sicky and sleepy. No - I want to hear it all!! I am 100% crazy happy for you and the other girls with the BFP's and I want you here to help steer our crazy ship of conception. When you described your symptoms, it does remind me of my pregnancy - I had all those symptoms to an extreme extent from around 9 dpo of my pregnant cycle. However, the extent of my symptoms may have meant something was probably wrong. But what you and Doll have been experiencing sounds perfect. Have you had any more spotting? Have you told anyone in real life?
Doll - how are you? Are you coping ok with the early pregnancy symptoms and your little one to look after? You have got an unusual situation I agree. Most first pregnancies can be accomodated with extra naps and snacks - but you already have your hands full. I am so excited to think of how wonderful family life will be for you - the 4 of you together forever. xxx
Den - your boss sounds interesting! And how fake, does he not realise that you all see straight through him???? I agree the snow is a pita. When do you two start IVF?
Ahhhh Lemon - how disappointing. I am sorry for the cold and the cancelled IUI. It sounds like you should be tucked up with a hot water bottle. Better to let your body rest and recover and be all shiny and strong for next month instead. Sending some hot toddy's your way - whisky??? Nellie is that the right spelling? I think it is natural to think of due dates and hope / expect to be updiffed again. The best piece of advice I can give you (although not entirely mastered this myself) is let go of dates and times as benchmarks for when things should happen. Easier siad than done. I am struggling with the idea of not having a baby when my sibling annouces her happy news presumably sometime this year or next. It is sooo hard sometimes.
Buzz - sorry for yet another migraine. Goodness me, are they stress or hormone related? Thank goodness for Kyla - she is a member of this TTC thread in her own right with the amount of comfort and giggles she has sent our way. I should have opened this message with morning ladies and feline. I am sorry that the last natural cycle hadn't worked out. However you seem very at peace with where you are heading (both emotionally and geographically) and in a way you can really start getting on with things now. Never have I been so certain that someone will become a mother - and what a lucky child it will be to have a mother like you.
Gin - sorry you had a weird cycle last month - are you ready for FET? Excited for you.
Critter - your weekend sounds fun. I am always impressed with your positive energy and attempts to make sure nice things happen. Where are you up to - is the plan still do do IVF very soon?
Sweet - OK, honey. First of all, sorry for the nasty shock of learning there is somethng. That isn't nice. But you are right, with a diagnosis, you can work towards putting it right. I don't know much about polycystic ovaries but I think clomid is a drug they use to help ovulation to occur. In fact a good freind of mie who ttc for 3 years got pregnant the first month she was on clomid. Stay positive, lots of ways forward for you. Take care and do something nice this weekend.
Well I am less sad then I was, the hormones were definatly not helping just before my period last week. I discussed my last cycle with my reflexologist last night. She agrees implantation was the likely culpret of dull crampyness and ovary activity on 6/7 dpo last month. She thinks it was simply a case of "not this time". I feel like something is coming to an end as I march towards the 3 year mark. In my sad moments I feel me and DH might call it quits as if this 3rd IVF cycle fails then we may need to face reality. But in my positive moments, I feel that the small repair work of the lap has put me back at the start with a fresh slate if that makes sense. Although I am a bit worried that this corpus leteum cyst might cause some tempory problems. Anyway, I think the next 2-3 months are going to be interesting for me and DH - not saying it will result in a baby but I think we might end up changing somehow. All a bit scary but then nothing really wrong either.
I am cd 7 of my natural FET cycle. I have a scan on Thursday and transfer will likely be around cd 20ish. However, I keep having to slap myself to remember all this. Its as if my brain really hasn't registered what I am doing. I have been drinking wine without thinking etc. I guess I have been in this IVF process for so long now that it doesn't really register any more. 
. I don't know what will happen, but maybe I am living one day at a time for now which is good. My new obsession is getting to the coast as often as possible. Also want to get bit fitter so will attempt some early morning swimming sessions. I keep having very weird dreams too. Two nights a go I dreamt I was 5.5 weeks pregnant (and 5.5 weeks exactly for some weird reason) as a result of my last cycle even though I had had a period. Last night I dreamt I saved a freind from drowning from a boggy lake in my garden (does not exist), she then got in to my bed to recover. I brought her up a toffee yoghurt( just like the ones I use at work in assessments) and when I opened it it was full of hairs and a teddy bears head. 
On that note, have a lovely weekend.