Five and the Mystery of the Declining Fertility - the BESH engage the services of the Famous Five to track down their baybees and finish with lashings of ginger beer. Topping!

[ArielThePiraticalMermaid]

Morning everyone, just let me wolf down this amazing meal of tinned tongue, hardboiled eggs and ginger beer (don't you find food always tastes so much better outside?) and we'll toddle off on our latest adventure. We'll make sure Anne does the washing up (you'll make a proper little housewife and no doubt the fecund mother of four fine sons one day Anne ) and us boys can have the proper adventures! No, not you George - you're nearly as good as a boy but not quite. Leave the actual procreating to me and Dick. Woof woof! Shut up Timmy!

Yes, you are asleep/as high as a kite for it, as I understand. I will be able to report back on Wednesday, hopefully!

That is how they get to the egg - the stick a long hollow needle thingummy from your fango to get to the ovary to hoover up the liquid that is in the follie and hopefully the egg with it. Some clinics use GA but I understand that sedation is more common, but from what I have read you are usually as out of it as you are under GA, but it needs less sleeping off. Having seen it on that Beeb docu about IVF, it is freaking me out slightly. It's just fear of the unknown really. Once I have done it once, I'm sure I'll be fine. And as I will only have one egg for them to collect, it should be super quick with minimal messing about down there.

My fanjo just shrivelled up in sympathy :(

On an unrelated note, Boots age defence anti wrinkle serum looks very much like jizz. Especially when it comes out of a new bottle unexpectedly and flies across the room.

Good luck this week euro

rie if you find out how to make him notice mess can you pass it on pls? Assuming Aunt Fanny is away and the housekeeper is convalescing, of course.

I am very squeamish about having anything stuck up there tbh (apart from the usual things :) ). Was one of reasons I delayed seeking help.

Egg collection was fine, I don't remember a thing after they said 'you might feel a little scratch' when they put the sedation drug in my hand. Next thing I remember I'm waking up! All done.

My husband came to every appointment with me. I did tell him I could do the scans on my own if needed but he wanted to see what was going on. I was very pleased he was there for the ET.

I'll be honest. The 2ww is a head fuck. It's been the worst bit about the whole thing. But I am impatient and a control freak so the waiting for something I can't do anything about was always going to mess me up

Good luck Euro

How much longer jeffers?

I am on way home from a tremendous night in a super trendy east London pop up restaurant, sat between my two friends with babies discussing prams, surestart centres and expressing breast milk. Fan-fucking-tastic. So pleased I bothered wearing nice foot hurting heels.

Rie - have you tried writing "gosh, isn't it fucking messy in here?" in toothpaste/ketchup on the appropriate surfaces? Alternatively, a boarding school trick (yes, I actually went to Malory Towers) was to fill the offender's bed with all the dirty crockery they had failed to clean. A little self defeating in shared bed circumstances, but if you have 'sides' it might work..

Tbh, I am the household slattern and BE is slightly better than me, so I'm not one to talk..

We did that to a super-scuzzy housemate at universty moll. He was not happy.

Sorry for the child-focussed night out. Plz to be describing trendy restaurant anyway.

Oh, Bugs :( I'm sure he's just worried about you, if the stress is making you snappy. Big hugs all the same, though.

Bugsy, if he's the man I think he is, I'm sure he won't just announce he wants a divorce :(. Listen to what he has to say, and if it's fair, acknowledge it and explain how shit things are with you (sometimes they need it spelled out) and say you're sorry. Then go for a nice roast together at the pub. Then I guess...just listen to what you're saying when you say it. It's so hard when we're going through this stuff, and mostly it isn't as hard for the man. Mostly.

Sorry you're going through this xxx

:( bugs I agree with Rie. I'm sure he wants to 'talk' about how you move forward and improve things. He's not the kind of bloke who will just walk away. We found Relate helped us find non-confrontational ways to discuss issues and it helped us move forward when we were in a similar place in the summer. Hope it's ok

Rie we have similar ishoos with mess. I told MSB off last night because the house was be-yoo-tiful and he came home and made a mess! I have told him I will not be tidying up after him - his pants and socks go in the washing basket not on the floor, otherwise they will stay on the floor (Pant gate mark II). I find it increasingly difficult to bend in the middle and get down! Bad enough for essentials at work. Not doing it at home. MSB basically does ok for a bit, then needs nudging as he slips into bad habits again.

Oh Bugs I'm sorry you're having a tough time. I, and all the other BESH I'm sure, know how frustrating this TTC lark is and I know I take things out on HWHNN for no real reason. Talking is the best thing to do, get it all out in the open and acknowledge fault on all sides.

bugs sorry you've been having a tough time. TTC is so stressful as is lack of job, and sadly the person closest to us is usually the one who bears the brunt. Like faith I found Relate very good at providing a neutral space to thrash things out. HWCA was far more open in sessions than with just me, and in all truth it stopped me walking out after the trouble we had last year.

I've just emailed a local Maine Coon breeder about a litter of kittens she has available

bugs hope you & GP have managed to have a good heart to heart. This whole trying to win a baby is Stressful enough & then when you add Other Stuff it's bound to push you towards the edge.

Frank are Maine Coon's the massive ones?

Yup, big, hairy and cuddly The lady has already replied to say the litter (only born last week) have already been reserved . She has another litter due in March and has said she'll put us in the contact list to notify once they've been born.

Brilliant! Can you wait until then or do you want one Right Now?

I LOVE MAINE COONS SO MUCH!!!!11!1!111!!!! Even though I have only seen them in magazines!

Waiting till then is probably better, it means we can plan things save up money and book some time off work to help it settle in. New kitten is probably also a potential cause of ironidiff

This is the breeder with some fab pictures

Glad you feel better, bugs. I hope it has cleared the air so it is easier for you to cope without getting angry with him. It is really nice to know he decided to talk to you before either retaliating or jumping ship - I hope that is how HOTB would be if we were in the same position.

:)

It's good that you feel better after talking Bugs. Maybe a month where you know you're out of the running will help to take the pressure off you?