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Fantastic Forty Plus, part 9, this time is our time,bring on the bfp's!

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hopefulgum · 01/01/2013 23:20

We've filled out thread - I do hope you all find your way here. I can't add a message on the old thread to let you know it is here...Smile

This new thread, will no doubt have its own set of bfp's and babies. I am excited to see what it brings.

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Morien · 11/01/2013 09:44

Jbrd, how's it gone this morning? I hope this is the end now and that you can get on with recovering. I'm quite shocked by everything you've had to go through.

Dr WhoFan, any warmer today? We've had huge problems with our heating this winter so I sympathise.

greenlizard, we seem to have lived parallel lives! I too have a great career (when I said the career thing wasn't my case I ony meant that I've never put having babies in hold for the sake of my career) which took me all over the world in my 30's. Like you, I had hosts of friends in a similar position, and I had a ball. Which isn't to say that I wouldn't have preferred to be bringing up children...but I made the best of what life offered at the time, and I really enjoyed it.

CaliBee, rant away! (I'd have been furious, in the circumstances). Hope you're ok.

sparklysapphire · 11/01/2013 11:44

JBrd, thinking of you today.

Calibee, yes, rant away if it makes you feel better, I'd be pretty cross too in your position. I'm a few days behind you (7+3 since LMP), and pretty much have exactly the same symptoms (or lack of), I haven't had any bleeding, but I'm concerned about the viability. I had no symptoms at all with my first pregnancy which ended in m/c, but felt very nauseous with DD (though I wasn't sick), but I'm just getting the occasional slight wave usually after eating something. I'm tired today but I think that's just a post night shift thing. I hope the scan on Monday will put your mind at rest but appreciate it seems like a long time til then.

Thanks wylie, nice to hear from you, I hope your next cycle is more predictable and does the trick. Do you think your family will stop driving you loopy any time soon?

Drwho, do you think the stress of moving may have contributed to the arrival of AF? Just a thought. Is the heating being fixed soon?

I'm not sure what DH is doing over the next few days so may not be able to post, but I'll keep reading and will be back when I can. I think I may actually need a short snooze as I'm struggling to keep my eyes open.....

DoctorWhoFan · 11/01/2013 12:07

Blimey Calibee, I'd have been pissed off too. Not sure if the sometimes being completely insensitive/a bit emotionally thick is a toy boy thing (mine can SO be the same) or whether it's just a man thing in general. Difficult for me to say given that I'm a cradle snatcher LOL!

Hope it's all gone ok JBrd - been thinking of you.

Bit warmer today. The bedroom and bathroom are stupidly hot, but the living room is FREEZING. So I'm spending a lot of time on the bed, knitting! It's s hobby, but I only do baby clothes cos I don't have the patience for anything bigger!

Can anyone else hear snoring?? Oh, it's ok, it's just Sparkly in the corner Grin. Hope things continue to look up chuckie x

remnant · 11/01/2013 14:53

Calibee I bet next week will be one of the longest you've ever known.

I'm swinging between knicker checking and worrying about having twins. Hmm

Your (lack of) symptoms sound quite similar to mine. Not sick but last time I wasn't sick at all. I did have such sore boobs I had to wear a bra at night. This time they're only painful if I poke right in the nipple. Ds still has one feed a day though. I don't feel much more tired than usual but I am usually very tired.

CaliBee · 11/01/2013 15:51

Thanks for your support ladies....
DrWho...that made me smile. Have to say though that for the majority of the time I can be the bigger kid. He told me very nicely about Newcastle( I knew he was testing the water) and I replied equally sweetly " sure sweet you go to Newcastle..but if you do then you can Fcuk off"....not very mature hey?? Blush
sparkly....as odd as it sounds its nice to feel I'm not alone in lack of symtoms...although somebody did stink the work toilets out earlier and the gag reflex was stronger than normal. And Remnant....said toilet visit was a knicker checking event. Sorry for TMI but I have felt a little "wet" down there today...but so far so good

NewPatchesForOld · 11/01/2013 16:47

God, I just woke up. Again. I lay down on the settee for a few mins and before I knew it I was being woken out of a deep sleep by DS home from school! Luckily he picks DD2 up from school on the way home for me. Absolutely crippling tiredness. Have also had heartburn again today, but no sickness. The oddest thing is the distinct lack of soreness in the boobage department...Usually a week or more before AF is due I can't even take a step without wanting to yell with pain, but so far nothing. I usually have to take my bra off very slowly at night to cope with the pain, but I can whip it off no probs Grin.

Calibee keep ranting away, we are such a safe outlet.
Remnant you have spawned a generation of gusset checkers y'know...we all blame you Wink

To everyone else, sorry again for lack of name checking but I am feeling stupidly dozy at the moment.

Has anyone heard from Jbrd? Hope she's ok.

x

CaliBee · 11/01/2013 17:50

wylie I was suffering from sillily long cycles too before I took the clomid. It seemed to do the trick for me.
newpatches when can you test??? I'm getting excited for you.

I'm hoping for a much tamer conversation with DP tonight....unless he has gone to Newcastle (he wouldnt dare lol). I hate confrontation with him when we can only sort it on the phone.
So today I had a letter informimg me that my tax credits have stopped (as DP now earning) and that I owe them £81!!! I also had a car tax renewal notice of £189 and a breakdown from my bank explaining about a mortgage enquiry meeting we had with them last week. I sold my 4 bed detached house last year with every intention of renting for a year and then buying again. My ex did a complete number on me which put me out of pocket by £115,000 and he got his debts (which I knew nothing about!!!) paid off with the equity in my (not his) house (hence selling). Raaa. Well last weeks meeting made me realise that without at least £16000-£17000 as a deposit I may be stuck in rental for a long time. I do object to paying £750 a month for this cold and small 3 bed semi just because its in a good area....oh and I regularly have to remove slugs from my kitchen in the mornings.

I will be glad when today is over.

NewPatchesForOld · 11/01/2013 18:01

Calibee I'm the same, I can't bear not being able to sort things out face to face. And I get days like yours, when there is nothing but bad news and hassle. My ex also did a number on me when I sold my house, and I lost everything. And ew...slugs? I hate them, I don't envy you.

I am still only 8dpo, and AF is due on Thursday. I have a stack of internet cheapies and a digital clearblue in my room, so may take an early test on Sunday morning, which would be 4 days early but the tests are the ultra sensitive ones. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia last year, so if I am not pg then I think maybe that is taking a turn for the worse and is causing all the symptoms.

Hope all goes well with DP tonight.

x

greenlizard · 11/01/2013 18:03

Ladies I would like you to behold the power of denial......

Despite getting my period a week early, bleeding for the normal 4 days and experiencing a corresponding drop in temperature....I keep finding myself thinking that maybe I am pregnant -wtf!

Explanation for such ludicrous thoughts a) my period didn't start normally (time, consistency etc.) b) my boobs didn't get sore but I have very sensitive nipples (not sore but tingling and my boobs are bigger and haven't gone down) c) there wasn't a spot to be found on my face or chest (sadly I still get spots in my forties!) d) my period was unlike my normal period (very red blood but no clots and it just stopped as it a tap was turned off) e) ummmm there must be something else I can dredge up from somewhere...I am quite hungry and felt dizzy yesterday!

Honestly, it is quite pathetic (and yes I did POAS to make sure). 8 need to have a word with myself......Blush

CaliBee · 11/01/2013 18:15

Oh lizard I have never been there...honest (she lies). When my cycles first started to get longer early last summer I convinced myself I was pregnant most cycles even once af arrived.
newpatches well I first saw "shadows" on my internet cheapy tests at what was maybe 10dpo...but couldnt say for sure until 12dpo. I guess sometimes the hoping in those last few days of 2ww is nicer than the horridness of a starkly negative HPT.

JBrd · 11/01/2013 19:14

Hi Ladies, I'm fine. All went very well, lots of waiting around, but then very straightforward. Hardly any pain, and the little there is is manageable with paracetamol. About to have dinner that DH has cooked (I'm ravenous), then off to bed, I think...zzzzzz

greenlizard · 11/01/2013 19:17

Jrbrd Glad to hear it went ok. Xxx

CaliBee · 11/01/2013 19:28

So glad its all over for you jbrd spoil yourself and let yourself be spoiled x

Irishmammybread · 11/01/2013 19:45

JBrd good to hear you're home safely and everything went smoothly, look after yourself xxx

Irishmammybread · 11/01/2013 19:55

CaliBee sounds like you're having a rough day! It must be difficult trying to sort out any issues with DP at a distance and when you're not face to face. When do you reckon he'll be able to come home for a weekend?
That's so unfair about your ex taking all the equity from your house too, the sheer injustice must have been hard to accept!

Irishmammybread · 11/01/2013 20:06

green the mind can play cruel tricks on us sometimes but hopefully next cycle you'll have symptoms plus a lovely BFP to go with them!

DH came home this evening with lots of washing after his week away, a suitcase full including 9 shirts! Lots of ironing for this weekend! But it is great to have him home.

10000Fireflies · 11/01/2013 21:52

Evening all!! Found you at last. Has taken me 11 days to realise the last thread wasn't updating as it was full. Doh!! Have 12 pages of news to catch up on, so will take me a while. In the meantime, thank you Italian for remembering me and for your good wishes.

Glad to see you are ok Jbrd. Hope your recovery continues to go well.

Is a bit late for the bistro tonight, but I have some lovely jumbo, soft choc chunk cookies to share around if anyone else is having a cup of cocoa.

Hugs to all. FF xx

NewPatchesForOld · 11/01/2013 22:44

Bblleeugh...was quite happily watching most haunted, tucking into fig rolls when I had to make a dash for the loo and up it all came. Missed the ending too! X

hopefulgum · 11/01/2013 22:44

Good Morning girls.
Glad you found us FirefliesSmile

Jbrd, I am pleased to hear it all went well. I hope your recovery is smooth. I found I was very,very tired afterwards, but I think more than anything it was the anesthetic.

Greenlizard, I completely sympathise with you - I too have those mind-games all the time. Even today, with my low temperature, spotting and less than tender boobs, I too wonder if perhaps I am pregnant because a) I haven't had a proper bleed yet, b)my boobs are a little bit sensitive, c)I gagged on my toothbrush yesterday and d)I really, really want to be pregnantSad

Unfortunately I had a shit day yesterday too, Calibee,I got a letter from the tax department telling me I've made a mistake on my return and will have to pay money back, which they'll let me know about soonAngry. And for some reason, my DH lost his temper at me (I still don't really understand, except that he is grumpy) and shouted and swore, so I took off for the day with my youngest in tow. Later, he apologised and we talked, and it seems he is just finding things a bit overwhelming. I am glad he is going away next week for a few days (though he is taking DD2 to her friend's place in the city), and then the following weekend he's having a golfing weekend with friends. Which is kind of a relief - I think he needs some time without us. Anyway, I said something about how it seems that DS(our youngest) and I seem to get on his nerves, and he said, "that was always going to happen with DS". I said, "I had always hoped the positives would outshine the negatives", he replied,"well, it clearly isn't".

It makes me feel Sad and Angry. Sad because he doesn't enjoy our gorgeous little boy in the same way I do (though I know he loves him very much), and angry because I feel it is partly his own fault that he hasn't bonded well with DS. I have done almost all of the getting up at night, all the hands on stuff,spent the most time with him, and DH has not tried to get close to him. So now that DS is four, he clearly has a preference for his mum and DH doesn't get the same attention/cuddles etc from DS. I honestly think if DS had been an "accident" baby, DH would have been better with him, but it seems because I wanted him,instigated ttc, etc, that there is an unspoken expectation that I would do most of the baby-raising, and that is kind of what happened. But I can't really say anything about it because it just upsets DH if I say he needs to try harder to bond with DS.

The upshot of all this is that I feel I can't really keep ttc the way I have been. I think if I get pregnant it really has to be a surprise, miracle, totally unexpected thing so that it puts DH and me on a level playing field IYKWIM. I don't think I can cope with the responsibility of making DH miserable by willingly bringing a new child into our lives.

So it looks like I should be relieved that I'm not pregnant this month (I'm not relieved), and should also be thankful that DH is away during my next fertile phase, so I won't be tempted to tempt himWink. And after that I should probably use my CBFM to avoid fertile time.

It makes me feel like shit to think all this, but I don't what else to do. I suppose it is about time I thought about something else, but giving up on this dream feels like giving up a part of myself. If I could have anything, it would be that my DH and I could be on the same page about this. He still risks us getting pregnant because he won't use contraception (and I'm not going to start), but he isn't actively ttc like I have been, though I think I am stopping that now.Sad

I won't be leaving the thread though, I feel at home here and really want to see how everyone else gets on.Thanks

Sorry this post is so self-centred, just trying to get my head around everythingSad

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Irishmammybread · 11/01/2013 23:06

gum please don't leave the thread whatever you decide to do regarding ttc, it wouldn't be the same without you!
I can see your dilemma if your DH definitely doesn't want more but it makes things very difficult for you, letting go of that dream of a last baby is such a hard decision to make.
If your DH is stressed at the moment maybe things are just getting on top of him ,as you say a break might give him a chance to unwind or (as my DH claims to need occasionally!) a chance to "clear his head".
Do you think he might start to feel a bit closer to DS as he gets older and they start to do more dad/son things together?
Sending you a virtual hug xxx

CaliBee · 11/01/2013 23:22

Echoes everything irish says hopeful
It seems like DH gets a lot of time away...maybe you could arrange to have a wee break yourself. Completely childfree for a couple of days?? It might give you the time and space to think about your ttc journey and where its going.

A much better conversation with DP tonight. I just miss him so much. No idea when he will be home again. He wont be there for the all important scan a week on Monday so I will be doing that one alone again. He has however told his closest friends at the barracks that I'm pregnant and that its a little touch and go just now. Thats the first people he has told as under the present circumstances we have decided to keep the news to ourselves. He said that they were discussing familes over dinner and the conversation got around to how the others were looking forward to having children of their own and it seemed an appropriate moment. I'm glad he now has people he can talk to about it.

notsoold · 11/01/2013 23:28

Gum...may I offer my hand???( sitting quietly beside you)....
It resonated strongly with me your post, but because I am not good with words I can only offer my hand...

littlepinkfizz · 12/01/2013 10:14

Hugs to jbrd, calibee and gum.

Just been reading through last few pages and I'm feeling tearful just reading your experiences. Please take all our support here and know that you will always find an ear to listen to you and and hand to hold here as we'll as endless cake a d tea/coffee.

Take all care ladies. SmileSmile

hopefulgum · 12/01/2013 10:27

Thankyou for your lovely words and hand-holding. I am fine, though a little wobbly. At least Aunt Flo did the right hing and turned up so there's no more silly doubt that I might actually get a bfp.

I spent the day with my sister traveling to visit our parents - a four hour round trip, gone all day, but not much chance to think about ttc. Which is a good thing. Now I'm back home and taking a minute to catch my breath (visiting my parents is not pleasant,particularly with my sister who they feel the need to chastise because of her life choices. It's "grit your teeth" sort of stuff. Glad we won't be doing that again for some time.)

Thinking about ttc right now, I am resigning myself to maybe not thinking about it this month, though will probably still use the cbfm until the sticks run out. If nothing else it will just help me keep an eye on my cycle so that I don't get all wishfully thinking that my AF is late etc. At some point I think I will feel more able to let it all go entirely, but perhaps not just yet. Baby steps...

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catdoctor · 12/01/2013 19:35

Hello all, been away since things got a bit 'near the knuckle' on last thread (or last but one?) - I havn't had a chance to read all your news, I'm sorry, but I shall.

As I've dropped off the list, reminder - I'm 44, ttc 8 cycles now, DS 2y5m; one chem preg and I think another non-stickybean last month.

All my 'mummy' friends now had their second or preggers. I'm 45 in March. DH on assorted meds and now his libido and ability to dtd have dropped right off.

I've chances in single figures now I think, so feeling a bit blue.

Advice please on how to face the inevitable - that it isn't going to happen,but despite that I need to keep trying.