TTC 10+ months thread 12

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A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

viv I don't know, I doubt it. Just block it out. I stopped myself from making some smart arse comment about it or opening the box to find a message saying 'Yes, you are correct, this is a brand new problem to worry about' I've already spent a fuck load of money on drugs I'm injecting into my belly, what to do? Least we are not shagging

Doll - grow follies grow

Den - welcome back and great news about the sparkly tubes, but sorry for the cyst and post op trauma. I was also ver ver sore, I guess it was due to all that repair work. Your instincts were right about your tubes, take very good care. X

A message for mrsden with shiny lap medal of honour enclosed! Well done! Amazing to hear your tubes are just fine so soak that up. I personally found the lap really quite painful for 48 hours after, my belly button and muscles around there hurt and I bled quite a bit too as they'd poked my cervix so much trying to get in. I needed my week off to recover and part of, or most of that was to get back to normal after the GA. the pain went pretty quickly but I was left weepy and disorientated somehow and very tired. I felt the same after the big op on a much grander scale but the GA does a specific thing to me that is disturbing as I felt v weepy and frankly a bit unhinged both times for a few days. I've read that this happens to a lot of people so try not to worry and just drink loads of water to flush it out your system. Also, a catheter is a bit uncomfy for a bit after, I'm quite surprised they gave you one of those. Mostly just feast rest rest, be with the way you feel for a few days and I totally promise that next week you will feel back to normal. Loves.

Wave to everyone else. I just got home from teaching so 12 hour day and time for tea. I am def owed time in lieu.

Lemons, can I ask if you got the IUIs on the NHS or did you go private? x

doll it's good to have an IVF buddy. I'm on CD8 today. Have my second scan tomorrow to see how my follie(s?) doing.

rabbit the first time I ever had a GA (for my lap) I apparently came round screaming the place down. I don't remember any of it. The nurses thought I was in loads of pain, but I was fine. And then I had an allergic reaction, a skin rash and passed out.

euro hope the scan today goes well. I totally get what you mean about reflecting on not starting shag week etc. I just woke up realising I didn't need to thing about the possibility of an AM drought breaking shag so got up to answer emails in advance of the boys waking up instead. Bliss. Not that there was much of a drought what with the last silly cycle, extra shagging waiting for the ov that didn't happen then early period. Although I'm not going natural (here, ha!) I feeling like it to me, as the SP is very Lite compared to LP. Also someone else is monitoring the cycle so I don't have to hunt of CM or hold on to pee for OPKs. Nice.

I feeling like it to me it feels like it to me, perhaps.

Doll, when you joke about not having to have sex is it because Mr. Doll has 'issues' like Mr. Viv? Or is it the general bored-of-shagging-after-long-term-ttc?

Good luck with your scan, Euro.

I feel so much better today. It's amazing how good it felt to be in my own bed. And I've had a shower and washed my hair. Bliss.

Good luck with ivf euro and doll. Is it short protocol you're doing this time doll?

Joy. I've been thinking about you, even in my Anaesthetc stupor I thought about how you were getting on. It's funny how much I do think of you all on this thread. When I was feeling a bit nervous before the lap I was reassured by thinking of all how rabbits, joy, lemons, euro, sar had been through it and been fine.

I love my medal rabbits. I'm going to wear it with pride.

My care has been fantastic. Although I'd have liked to have been home sooner, I think 2 days was right for me. Everyone's experience with a lap is different, I think a lot depends on what the surgeon does when they're in there. I was in theatre for just over 2 hours so I think she was pretty thorough. She said I would have uterus pain because she'd had to move it out the way to get to my ovary so it would be bruised. She also said that's why I would have some bleeding like a light period. I think removing the cyst was fairly straightforward, although she did say it had adhesions and was trying to stick to things like a big sucker. It would have got bigger and caused me problems so I'm glad it's gone. I forgot to ask her if it might grow back. She said my uterus and tubes were perfect so I have restored faith in my instincts. I really couldn't think that i had a bad tube. She did a scan before I left hospital to check there was no fluid or blood left over. All was good and she showed me my ovaries which she said had a good number of follicles, not too many and not too few. She said that I definitely do not have pco. They are nice and healthy sans cyst. So, I feel like the lap has given me lots of answers. She also said I'm good to go for ivf whenever I feel ready and she s looking forward to hearing news of my baby.

The nurses were without exception kind and lovely. They took so much time to explain everything they were doing and were so gentle. I didn't even find the catheter removal uncomfortable. The injections, blood tests, etc were all so easily done. They helped me to the toilet, to wash, and all without making me feel embarrassed. I wish all health care professionals could be like them.

Oh, I forgot to say that they shaved me down below before the op. I look like a plucked chicken yikes.

Ad I have a nice patchy fake tan thanks to the iodine. It's proving remarkably stubborn to get rid of.

Den I'm so glad you had a positive experience. My own run in with the dear nhs was horrifying, demeaning, cruel and neglectful and I've lost all faith in hospitals being somewhere you are cared for. Thank goodness they found it now and got rid. You are good to go!

Yay mrsd you survived and have a certified clean shiny womble! I'm pleased to hear they got the pesky cyst and that you now know there is absolutely no reason on your side why ivf wouldn't work. I keep thinking there must be something wrong with me as well as Dave, but I think that's partly the result of spending so much time in clinics and on fertility websites! Make sure you rest up and no work until you are properly better. at the plucked chicken look. I hear some men all youf are into that kinda look!

doll I am cheering on your follicles and pleased to hear you are finding sp easier. It all seems to be happening so quickly! Lots of good luck chuck and make sure there are no phone calls in surgery this time. Do they really not monitor your bloods at all??

euro it's great that you're feeling ok with ivf au natural. Hope the scan today was ok. Lack of mental making drugs and sense of control are v good things. With only a couple of follies, I reckon EC will be a breeze too. And stay away from the Bake Off if you are wheat free - the first day after watching it I ended up buying cake "for my team" ie me.

lemons pleased you are feeling better. The stupid period hormones really don't help things. I'm still being a grumpy cow!

I'm still awaiting my period so the fet cycle can start. There's no sign of it yet, apart from a monster migraine yesterday, making me worry that ivf has broken me. Guess the day 8 scan should show if anything's up...

Hi ladies,

I missed a day or two?. It?s been busy on here.

Mrsd ? Glad they got everything at the lapo. Hope you feel better soon. I had one a couple of yrs ago and I was fine and didn?t feel bad at all. I did throw up when I got home but it was mainly from the anaesthetic. I understand the more they take out the more it hurts after. I have a friend in RL who just had one and she had to take almost 3 weeks off work. Good luck with the healing?

Euro & Doll ? I hope you both grow lots of lovely follies. Good luck!!!

Gin ? thanks! The clomid is going okay so far. I m on the 3rd day of taking it. So far okay and just a slight headache. My period was extremely short with only one full day of full flow bleeding. I have no idea if that?s normal? Is it? And yes ? it should be IUI for me later this month if all goes well. I know how you feel about PMT? hope it?s better. I was terrible before this period. So angry and sad all the time. I hated being with me so I don?t know how those around me felt! hope your period comes real soon.

Freedom ? what kind of alternative practitioner are you seeing? Is it Chinese meds? If so, it?s not really alternative. Lots of medical evidence to show that it can help with IVF and fertility generally. Including this report published by the British Medical Journal re acupuncture.

www.bmj.com/highwire/filestream/353676/field_highwire_article_pdf/0/545

I have to say I am a big proponent of Chinese Medicine having seen a practitioner for many many years who has helped me with some issues that conventional medicine hasn?t been able to solve. Viv is right of course about being ripped off, you do have to be careful but most Chinese doctors are now regulated. Just make sure they are a member of British Acupuncture Council and the Register of Chinese Herbal Medicine. In China, Chinese meds is used together with western medicine ? side by side in hospitals and proven to be v effectively.

Becks ? thanks for the tip about PCT. I will have to look into that. It?s not something I have come across. I will make sure to ask my consultant next time I see him. Congrats again on your baby! Happy to see it can work!

Lemon ? I hope your cold is better and you are feeling much brighter!
Hello to everyone else!

AFM, I am trying to keep busy with work, study and also practising yoga everyday and mediating to stay calm. So far it seems to be working. Let?s hope everything goes well with the drugs and there?s no problem with going ahead with the IUI as it?s my first so there?s no point of reference at all.

Love to all. Stay strong and positive.

mrsd it does sound like you were very well cared for. It's good that they were thorough.

Gin I am quite sure that you are not broken. You will be on your FET cycle v soon.

Thanks sea, although I'm just expecting the one as I am not taking any stimming drugs. I'm a fan of acu too. It hasn't helped me get pregnant yet, but it has sorted out my dry skin.

I had my second scan this morning. My ovaries have decided to fool around a bit ("Bad ovaries!"). On Monday, the biggest follie was on the right, and the blood flow was best there too, so the sonographer thought I would ov from that side (as did I, because I thought I oved from the left last time). Today, the right side follies hadn't grown at all, but the one on the left had overtaken them and got to 13mm.

gin really enjoying your posts they make me smile

sea is this first clomid? I may soon be joining you and am so worried about the side effects. I don't have heavy periods. I get 2 days spotting 2 days manageable full bleeding (yellow tampons, rarely worry about accidents), 1 day v light and 2 days spotting. It rarely varies though some months I get mega long spotting up to 5 days before. Aspirin particularly aggravated it. My light periods have been a source of much worry but no one seems bothered and lining is always good thickness though it baffles me as to how. I think I had a cp in October as I had a pos test for all of 24 hours that did not look like an evap and my period was just over a week late. Then I had a mega period and didn't like it one bit! Of it wasn't for ttc I'd be glad my periods are so tame but something makes me think they're just not 'proper' enough, especially as they were so heavy in my teens. The pill changed things a lot.

hey euro well that's good 13mm, whether left or right. When do you go back next?
No gin never given any blood test at all. Too busy with the huge Christmas trees
mrsden so glad you are feeling better
viv in answer, mainly just the drag of it, but we have had some sex fails too, 'all in the head' for sure in his case.

rabbit I too have light periods mostly, no interest from the Drs at all. I discovered my sister is taking clomid with no side effects.

euro oh the mysteries of our inner bits. The two week wait and ovulation is all just so bloody unfathomable, did I ov, from which side, did the egg come out (my current obsession is that I retain my eggs in my ovaries!?) did the sperm die straight away, brain melt. No scan I've had has ever fully matched up with what I thought was happening so I'm very curious about my upcoming monitored cycle. But also I'm totally expecting my body to be doing bloody annoying things like making monster big eggs or suddenly having grown fifty stupid fibroids. It never seems to be straightforward. How the hell does anyone get pregnant!!! Heres hoping you make two eggs. Double oeufs.

I'm out on the road. Lots of waiting in between places. It's freezing.

Bad follies euro. I'm sure they are just teasing, I hope you've given them a stern talking to. What cd are you? How big should they get to before ec?

Gin, I don't think you're broken either. I have good hopes for your fet. When do you start? What's involved with fet?

I told my family about the lap because i thought they should know I was in hospital. Not that it was related to fertility but just that I needed to have a cyst removed. Which was true. Anyway, my mum has since been telling me numerous stories of people she knows who've had ovary problems. I'm sure she embellishes the stories. The best one was of a friend of a friend who had an ovary and tube removed, was told shed never have children, split up with her husband because he wanted kids. She gave up her job and went to live in the jungle in Borneo to do some sort of missionary work. But came back to the uk pregnant, but has never told anyone who the dad is. I think we should all go to the jungle.

We're you on the pill doll? I blame it for my fucked up fertility. Does your sister know you are doing ivf?

Oo den I just read a book by Anne patchett about the jungle and ferility drug making. I didn't know it was about that, so many books end up being about fertility/pregnancy! Anyway this tribe in the book sucked on the bark if a special tree and preserved their fertility til their 70s. Lets all lick trees, it's clearly where we've been going wrong.

Gin, sorry I realize you did say in your last post about fet. I sometimes get migraine just before af so hopefully she's about to turn up.

Rabbits, I don't think af heaviness or lightness means much, if your lining is good that's all that matters.

Right, I'm off out to lick a tree.

I was on the pill for about 10 years rabbit I told my sister in passing that I had tried IVF when I saw clomid in her kitchen. That's how things go in our family.

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