TTC 10+ months thread 12

[buzzybee123]

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

Welcome seaview I think I am the Veteran of IUI (6 down the line now) of the fred. I have done natural, with just a trigger shot and SO with injectibles, so a bit different from freedom and I am unexplained as well.

My SO experience is cd 3 scan, injecting and back for a scan on cd 9, if (two) egglets growing nicely, triggering at 18-20mm, IUI two days later, I did find it incredibly incomfortable for the first 3, until a nice doc told me to have a rather full bladder, the next three have been absolutely fine (and I got a temporary BFP from the first SO IUI, and the first one that didn't hurt).

IUI is usually a day or so shorter than your normal cycle (mine is normally 25-29, IUI 24-28)

what is SO with injectibles lovesLemonDrizzleCake?

SO is super ovulation: he attempt to grow two or three follies (instead of the usual one); with injectibles = you inject FSH (gonal-f or menopur) to achieve this.

thanks lemon

Thank you so much freedom and Loveslemon for your insights.

It doesn't sound too bad. Thank you for the tip about full bladder and freedom for your quite humorous depiction of the iui. I needed that.

Can I ask you ladies why you have not opted to do ivf? I only ask because my doctor advised me to do no more than 3 IUI. I am just curious if other docs advise something different.

Im still waiting for AF to come so I can get started. I am now 3 days late (quite unusual for me but Im not pregnant as have tested).

Seaview they adviced us to do four IUIs, and then I got a BFP (+mc) on number 4, so they suggested a few more. We're talking to the clinic next month to decide whether to continue with IUI, as it can work for us, or move to IVF in the next few months. They say after 4-6 failed rounds there is not much point in continuing, but once you get pregnancy occurring they know the "black box part" namely fertilisation, transport through the tubes and implantation, can occur which gives you better odds than if nothing happens. I was happy to stick at it for a while because the natural rounds were really low impact... I am really not looking forward to IVF, and take my hat off to all those on fred who've been through it!

How are you lot? It is quiet! Is everyone excitedly playing in the SNOW? I love snow (especially when working from home). I've just been out for lunch and it is so pretty!

Quick post from me. I had my pre op appointment today. It's a bit scary going over the risks And then signing the consent forms. But it's got to be done, the dr said I definitely have a fluid filled mass, it's just not clear yet if it's my tube or a cyst. I'm a bit worried about what will be found. She said if its a cyst she should be able to remove it and save the ovary.

Did anyone else have to take an enema before? I've got to squirt something up there the night before, yuk. The Anaesthetist was nice, jolly guy. I think the going to sleep bit is the most worrying bit for me.

Sar, I don't really understand all those things on the report but I do understand how you're feeling.

Joy, how amazing two little ones.
Waves to everyone else

mrsd I think that is an, um, regional thing. Certain parts of the world love shoving things up their bottoms. No enema for a lap in the UK.

Oh I know they're very partial to suppositories round here too. It's the usual method for giving medicine to children. No sweet tasting calpol. I think they give them to you before giving birth here too. I find it really interesting the cultural differences in medicine. It makes you wonder how much is evidence based. Has anyone had an enema before? Are the results dramatic?

I got measured up for my support stockings too. And I had to pick my menu. Cheese and sausage for breakfast, I mentioned toast and got glared at, so bread buns, cheese and sausage it is. I think she might throw a fit when i ask for milk with my tea. Afternoon tea I've opted for peppermint tea thougt it mit help with the gas, I'm hoping we get cake then too. Lunch is a hot meal and evening meal is more bread and cheese. I can't imagine I'm going to be very hungry but the sister was quite adamant that she needed to know my choices.

Bloody hell, Mrsden, I've got this image of you hoiking up your support stockings whilst dashing to the toilet with a cheese and sausage butty rammed in your mouth.

mrsd I had to have a bowel clear out preparation sachet before my lap. As for enemas, I have had a few as a child. I was v. v. constipated and so couldn't have given a monkey's about the indignity wasn't too bothered. As I remember it is a little tube with a long pokey top of creamy stuff that you just squirt up.

Hope that you are okay joycep I am so praying that this is your turn.

lemons the snow is beautiful isn't it. I was almost reluctant to let the dogs out and churn up the snow on the grass because it was just so nice to look at.

seaview hello. I think that some PCTs don't offer funding for IUI. Mine doesn't. It's straight to IVF.

Den - tight pre op hand holding for you. I know the uncertainty is scary. But you are moving foreward and ought to be immensley proud of how wel you are coping with it all. You will get your baby.

Euro - hope your period has settled and you are marching in to your special cycle with excitement. This is the bit of your journey where your baby is just around the corner at some point soon.

2013 woop woop

Happy weekend ladies! Hope the KILLER snow hasn't left any of you snow bound. It looks ver pretty, but I'm fed up with feeling cold all the time and I don't think it's helping the bloody cold that I have!

mrsd wishing you lots of good luck for Monday. Your hospital sounds v. nice, although the protein packed food choices made me giggle. I have a vision of you going ape at them when they won't give you milk for your tea post op! My favourite bit of the whole EC thing was when the nurse brought me a strong cup of lovely tea post op, having been deprived of it all throughout the cycle.

pout are you starting ivf soon? Struggling to remember who's doing what!

viv yay for a positive appointment and hotty dr . Are you now just waiting on appointments for stuff?

lemons I am jealous of your working from home in the snow! I really wanted to do so not leave my bed yesterday, but had a stupid long meeting in the afternoon.

Welcome back seaview. Any sign of the red witch? No iui for us as we have male factor infertility. If this FET doesn't work though, we'll be trying iui with donor sperm.

Good luck with yours freedom

teu how are you doing? And also you artemis. Hope you're all taking extra care in the snow.

sar hope you are ok. I wonder if your diagnosis just looks a lot worse on paper (like when you have a house survey and it sounds like everything is wrong and the house is about to fall down!) and that's why the dr was more positive? Still, they should have given you more details. 2 hours is a bloody long time to be in surgery. Could you go back and talk through the report with them? I think I'd want more information about what it all means.

buzz hope you are ok lady. I've had sooo many ivf wobbles and I know it's the only way we can get preggers. Can you work out specifically what's bothering you? Is it a real fear, or just general nervousness? Big hugs.

rabbits I am LOVING the good reads website, as are the friends I made join. It's totally ace. Just have to try spending more time reading than on it!

euro did I spys that it was a birfday? If so hope it was a good one.

joy you probably won't read this but wanted to say I'm so thrilled the agrc 2 are onboard. Hope you are enjoying a break from all the clinic mentalness.

Hello to everyone else. I'm just awaiting my period now, so we can start the FET. I wish they hadn't told me about the 50% chance. I'd much rather go in thinking it won't work and being pleasantly surprised if it does. That bbc4 progmramme concluded with the thought that the clinic was selling people hope (in a good way). I don't want to be sold hope! Give me some pessimism and realism! Bah, meh.

lovely to see you gin and everyone else. I wrote a nice name-checky message a few days back that my computer ate. The last week or so i have found my gmail is missing odd messages, different sources, just occasional, not found in trash or junk. Anyone know what the hell could be going on? Its landed me in all kinds on tricky work situations and now, having found the strength to make an IVF appointment a few days ago I have to cancel it as I didn't receive an email about a meeting I can't miss. Big stressful meh.

CD 19 today, nice and easy to remember what with the new years day gift. Peed on sticks till yesterday, no + at all and no signs that I'm post-ov. Now I have watery brown spotting. Have never spotted pre period at all. Bloody hell, just a ridiculous cycle. My cycles are so dull and predictable normally. I guess a cycle without ov can be very short as well as longer than normal?? I've heard of longer rather then shorter but at least we can stop stressy morning shagging. Look on the bright side right?

Loves to all my old friends and new folk.

That is odd doll. I have not noticed gmail eating messages, but then I don't use to for work. My friends might just think I am going through one of my anti-social phases again . Bloody annoying to have to cancel the appointment though.

I feel for you mrsd, I was most worried about the being put to sleep part of my lap. But I can honestly say that was okay. Take your time recovering and LOL at your dinner options. Maybe mrD can make you some tea and toast when you come home! Nobody felt the need to clear out my bowel before the lap either, but pout sounds reassuring. I hated the whole not eating before it, thankfully I went down to surgery at about 8:15 (it meant being in the hospital at a completely indecent time, but still).

I hope you had fun with the dogs in the snow pout. Even if they messed your nice lawn . What is the status with your IVF again? And how's the crafty empire going?

gin sorry about my smug post about working from home, I spent a lot of time on delayed trains this winter, so felt I deserved it. In my previous role I could work from home all the time, and I never quite appreciated how much that helped with chores and sleep etc. So now I really relish those days. Have another one planned for Monday. Btw exciting about the FET being near.

How are you sar? You sound a lot more like your optimistic self!

How is wobbling going buzz? Hope you're feeling better.

Tail feather shakes to all of you, old and new if it doesn't scare you too much

afternoon ladies, loving the snow, someone has made a rather good snowman out the front of our place its also great being able to walk to work too. kayla is proving to a lovely furry hot water bottle at night.

mrsd hoping all goes well for your lap

joy thinking of you

seaview welcome

doll sorry you've had a messed up cycle, sadly there is not much you can do about it, which is what I find frustrating.

gin exciting times ahead with the FET

Thank you for your support, I am over the wobble, I think I was a bit freaked out by it all actually falling into place, it has been a sense of release, also my first wobble since starting life coaching. We need to pay out deposit and book our flights in the next week or so. I am looking up things to do in the area.

We are also going to meet up with a friend of a friend who has just adopted a little boy, she is going to go through the nitty gritty with us, which is very kind of her.

waves to everyone

lemon thanks the explanation re iui. Good to know. Similar to what I was told I guess.

mrsd I hope your lap goes well. Sorry to hear about the mass but it's better out than in. I had a lap about 2 yrs ago. They don't make you do an enema here but I did have to use a strange suppository thing. As for enemas, they are okay actually. I have had a few from detoxing. The only thing to be aware of is that they can flush out the good bacteria in your system (essential for good digestive health). I was always advised to take pro-biotics after doing them. It might be worth doing.

gin thank you for welcome. No sign as yet of the red witch. It's typical... Every time i had it to come to move forward on some fertility testing e.g. when I had to do Ovarian Reserve Test and now for IUI, I am late. Now 3 days late.

Pout Didn't realise that about PCTs not offering IUI. I was offered but I also went for a consultation at a private clinic. Both suggested IUI to me. I wasn't sure as the success stats are depressing low but I felt more comfortable with this first step rather than straight to IVF despite most of my friends who have been on the fertility journey telling me I am crazy.

akua Sorry to hear about your odd cycle. It can be so frustrating especially when your periods are normally so normal. However, I have heard so many stories about late/early ov and even women who ov twice in a cycle (as told by the sticks). I really believe that during the ttc journey, we can become so stressed (overused word I know) and it can be so unconscious that it can completely throw our cycles all over the place.

Hello to everyone else. Thanks for making me so welcome on here.

In the meantime... I am still waiting for AF so I can get started.

sea interesting about the choices AC, I rejected clomid, IUI etc because that was right for me at the time. Was I right? I don't know. We can only do what seems right for us at any given time. I am a massive freak though, so I'm all for individual paths (adoption in advance of AC in my case).
So CD 19 is CD 1 is seems, new in a decade. Did IVF do this? find something to blame Meh, tonight one of my best friends told me she is 8 weeks pregnant, tough, it's great but it's hard.

Sea I was just the same - I had to move through AC in baby steps. I couldn't have jumped straight to IVF.

Gin it was my birfday this week. I had been kind of dreading it, but as the kerazy PMT hormones had eased off by then, I felt better than I had in days (despite the period pains) and quite enjoyed it. It was very low key though.

sarlat thanks for your kind words. They made me smile. I'm on CD4 now (as you know doubt know as we are always tracking one another!), the pains have eased, I'm not feeling hormonal and things are ok. I have a pre-IVF scan on Monday. Not sure why they want to do one at that point. But it's fine. I have my fortnightly acu just before (work, schmerk, I'll get there by lunchtime). I'm feeling fine about it at the moment. It won't last. Stand by for the menkul in a week or so.

V quick post and will do my usual Sunday eve post tomorrow - ive not really been at home or by a computer or even had chance to read v much. I'm thinking of joy lots and big hand squeeze doll. My very best friend had her first baby today. So massive, empathy drenched hug. It's brilliant but oh the hollow womb feelings.

sea I tried SO with one IUI, I was then advised to save my money for IVF as that was more likely to work, the second place told me not to bother with IUI, I suppose it depends on the individual and your stats, glad I tried it but also glad I didn't carry on.

euro happy belated birthday, hope you had a lovely day

doll sorry about the announcement, big hugs I too had a friend tell me she is 8 weeks pregnant this week, she has had a crap journey to get this far though

rabbit she is 43, so great and also cause for wine and tears in the doll house. I know that I will not get pregnant, I'm doing something that in that in this moment in time I think is right.

New iPhone ....I'm doing something that in this moment in time seems right.-

doll never say never. You are ace and I'm sorry you are in the pit with me. Not sure those emoticons really do it! This shit really is unfair isn't it. Wine is good. A dry January is one of my most ridiculous ideas ever.

And yes - you need to follow what feels needed. And you don't know that it can't work. It's all just so infuriatingly mysterious though.