TTC 10+ months thread 12

[buzzybee123]

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

Buzz -those test results are brilliant.

Euro, madness, lemon, art and nao thanks for the very wise words about managing work and appointments. I am feeling more shrewd.

Madness-I am feeling much better thank you. I have recently heard about the connection with endo of any degree and implantation problems, maybe I should be a little excited it was found and removed.

Joy- is today ec? Or soon? Am sending hand holds and cheesy grins with excitement.

Another pack up gal here. In fact I fancy myself a compartmental lunch box- now that is bound to impress new boss. They will surely know they have chosen the right person then.

My wheat avoidance lunch tips (or dinner as I normally say) are a salad with chicken or tuna or crab sticks etc in one corner, a splodge of chutney or mayo in the other corner and then crumble in 1 or 2 oatcakes and mix. Quite yum and very filling. Other good one is porrige oats or oat based granola with seeds, yoghurt and banana mixed up. Looks a bit breakfasty but tasty and filling. Or same salad as above with chicken and chutney in corners and cubes of sweet potato in other corner instead of oat cakes, and mix.

Having time off work is amazing and I am loveing thinking through the small stuff like dinners and my next haircut which am thinking may be Sophie dahls long floppy shoulder length bob. I have also played around with the position of my eyebrows.

Waves to everyone xx

Evening everyone.

Shall I pm you the recipe euro? Would take up quite a lot of space on the thread I think. I have never sent a message via mums net but will give it a go this evening. It really is one of my favourite cakes and my brother in law - who is normally holier than though about not having much dessert - had three pieces last time they were round [smug emoticon].

Glad you're feeling better sar and are managing to enjoy your time off. I take it the gas pains have subsided a bit? Removing that little patch of endo really might have done it. It sounds like there's nothing majorly wrong so a little tweaking might just tip things in your favour. From all of the reading I've done there shouldn't be any problem staying pregnant, it just makes it harder to get pregnant.

Welcome back naoko. I would always prefer to have more time off after new year rather than having lots of time to plan for Xmas. The Pre Xmas period is always busy and stressful no matter how much time you have, whereas the post Xmas and new year time is much more chilled out and enjoyable. That's my take on it at least. Good luck with the tests. Hopefully you'll be pregnant before doing too many but good to start investigations. I felt better knowing that we were being proactive.

So I've started the hrt. Lots of scary stuff on the box but I think it's for people taking it for years, not just a couple of months. I need to go back tomorrow to collect the injection as they had to order it in. Interestingly they give the same drug to men as a treatment for prostate cancer as in a man it inhibits testosterone, not oestrogen. I had a lovely morning with charming nursery kids and had a brilliant home visit this afternoon so that was all lovely. Treated myself to a fancy coffee and a good mystery novel in one of my favourite cafes after work as well. Something my friends with kids moan that they miss doing. Next time I see them I shall make sure to talk about it .

Okay off to make the tea. Hope everyone's having a lovely evening. Thinking especially about pout and joy who will hopefully be back with updates soon!

Waves to everyone else.

I'm sure I read somewhere that you're only as good as your worst Fsh result, I don't like this. I've no idea if it's true. buzz what do the clinics say about your results? Why have they decided your eggs might not be good enough if your Fsh is so good? Or is low Fsh bad too? I dont understand the hormone levels.

Joy how are you doing? Is it ec soon?

Sar, how are you feeling? Are you still sore?

I am so busy at work, ttc is sort if out of my thoughts until home time which is nice. Today I made a wrap filled with tuna, egg, salad. It was surprisingly filling but I still crave choccie mid afternoon. I did resist though.

Waves to everyone. I'm going to have a long, hot soak in the bath, I'm soooo exhausted.

Madness yes please! It's easy to send a PM - just click on "message poster" to the right of my name just above this post.

I hope the HRT helps. Burserelin (that I took to downreg) is also used to treat prostate cancer because of its hormone-suppressing properties!

eeeek I am hopefully going to be booked in for DE/IVF in May

joy hope you are ok, has EC happened :)

sar enjoy your time off, I'm not sure if my E2 is good

madness hope the hrt helps soon

mrs I have decided on DE, clinics here are happy for me to do IVF with my own eggs, perhaps because they don't offer DE themselves My AMH was low which is what mainly represents your ovarian reserve. I am waiting to hear from a clinic up north to ask them some questions, I'm going to email Shehata's office and see what he says about my E2, it won't change my situation at this point unless we get some more money we only get one shot. I don't mind using DE as long as I get my baby

They think it might snow this weekend which is exciting :)

Ah, Buzzy, what a thrill! I'm chuffed to bits for you. It's my ultimate fantasy to be able to go for IVF with donor eggs.

Mrsden, am of your ttc-less thoughts today. I'm hoping this voluntary work I'm undertaking from Monday will keep me distracted, too.

I went clothes shopping today and felt rather despondent and uninspired. Does anyone else feel like they've awoken from a coma to find they're living on Planet Tat when they go on the High Street? Ghastly clothes everywhere I looked. I ended up with sports socks, coat hangers and an egg butty. Oh, and my CBFM sticks turned up today. Ten quid to piss on yet more sticks. Yet another industry making a packet out of us desperate women

viv yes I agree2108901e20rpojy6y7jt40hj

oooops sorry that is the cat posting not me, yes viv I agree about the clothes, not very inspiring, what alot of them do is just use the same basic patterns and change the fabric each year where did you get you pee sticks from and how many in the box??? I pay about £18-20 for a box of 20. I also don't piss on them until about 3-4 days before I think I'll ovulate

Buzzy, are they your bank account details?

ha I'd be in trouble if she knew those, but I wouldn't put it past her, she is going through a faze of sitting and walking across my laptop

Buzzy that is so exciting!

Madness, a good book in a cafe sounds perfect. As does a long hot bath, MrsD.

Ooooh! A cat-lover, like moi! I have two beauties: both jet-black (can't tell 'em apart). My girl is called Baby (named pre-ttc - honest!) and my boy is called Little Ted. I adore the little bastards.

I got my sticks from Amazon and paid £21 for 20 plus six quid p+p!!! Out-frigging-rageous! Great tip about not pissing until ov is imminent. I had decided to pee later on in my cycle anyway due to the whole Clomid issue

madness thank you I am getting excited, even looked up due dates

viv I usually ovulate around cd12 so test from around cd8-9. I got my last ones off ebay but they were not much cheaper, I remember when they were £14 less than 2 year ago. Kayla is our spoilt little fur baby, black with a few white bits.

Sar - well done, you've done it but so sorry about the gas pain. How extraordinary that everything ran through your tubes especially after everything they have said. how do you feel now? it sounds like there have been a few things being a hindrance and hopefully you chances are now much increased. How many FETs do you have left to do? Is it worth asking for some antibiotics because if you have had an infection, hence the tube redness perhaps it will help clear this up?? just a thought. I hope you are feeling a bit better. And I second what others have said. I think you have done a great thing changing your job. We are always eager to please and not be a burden on a new place of work, but you will manage to work around it, you really will.

Art - i have been thinking of you loads and hoping everything is going ok. It's so bloody nerve racking and that 12week mark must be nearly upon you now. Although disconcerting, cramps and things do sound good as it will be everything stretching.

madness - i hope the hrt works a treat. Poor you, you have been through a hideous time and i hope these drugs help with the flushes. . it's annoying they can't tell you how you got the infection but i guess it's just one of those things.

Lemon - i hope injections are going ok.

Viv - sorry about the shi88y time you have been through lately. I hope you are feeling better.

Buzz - it just shows how every month can be so different. what amazing blood test results. also, love the fact that kayla likes writing the odd message on here!

Sorry if i have missed loads. I have been offline for a few days. Was finding it really stressful at work and having to run off to the clinic for scans, blood tests and getting several calls telling me to inject plus needing the loo every 30mins meant i was all over the place. Then on Wednesday my manager reorganised a meeting for me to attend at 4.30pm. I knew i couldn't risk going because if the clinic called , i would have to jump. Anyway, i said i had to go to doctors and i managed to get out of it - but i was stewing for 4hours before i went to tell the manager. Anyway i have learnt my lesson for next time. i will have to come clean and come up with some excuse so i can get some flexibility.

Anyway, trigger shot was on Wed eve which i did in a restaurant. It took me 20mins because i smashed one of the bottles and i cut my hand. what a palava! I was feeling pretty sick yesterday pm and not sure i really slept last night. And EC was 6.30am this morning. They collected 13 eggs but their policy is not quantity, it's quality. I am waiting to hear whether any of those fertilise now. So it's out of my hands now. It's up to nature/science , the gods of luck. If I can get a couple put back in that would be amazing. A split transfer would be my preference and if i get some to go on ice, i will be utterly thrilled but trying not to get ahead of myself and shall try and take it as it comes.

I hope everyone else is ok.

oh and i have been called to tell me they are going to have to do icsi because there were more than 50% abnormal forms. I actually had a choice but i don't want to take the risk in not doing it...

Ah, Joy, I'm thrilled, thrilled, thrilled for you! You must feel so hopeful? How long do you have to wait after EC to know whether they have been fertilised? I'm so excited for you.

Joy, what does 'abnormal forms' mean? Is that to do with morphology? Will they inject a perfect sperm into each and every egg?

Wow, 13 is amazing joy. I know it's quality but I still think this has to be a good sign. Did mrjoy manage to play his part ok? Will there be a party going on in petri dishes right about now?

Buzzy, did you say you're booked in for ivf now? Or have I got that wrong? If so, that's very exciting, do you know how they match you up with a donor?

Viv, ttc is always at the back of my mind, it's just it seems to be a little further back than usual.

Pout, are you ok? I'm wondering how the ivf appointment went?

It feels like this thread is full of excitement at the moment. I think we might see a good few bfps in the next few months. My own situation feels quite hopeless though, I'm thinking there are way too many obstacles in the way. If I do get pregnant then the baby will always be our miracle, and that will make him or her so special. I'm fed up of reading threads of people wanting baby number 6, only wanting a girl, wanting an autumn dd or whatever. We know on this thread how truly amazing our babies will be no matter what.

thanks Viv, now is the nerve racking bit though. I don't think abnormal is the morph...i'm not really sure. I have read somewhere that my clinic likes to do icsi with everyone. i think you get higher fertilisation rates so perhaps that's why. Roy's sperm count is normally excellent so icsi is obviously just their preferred choice. I hope they choose a perfect sperm!!

X posted with joy and viv. I think you've made the right call joy. Ultimately the clinic know what they're doing and if it's what they recommend. You don't want the abnormal ones clogging the way for super boys. Has the abnormal forms been a problem in the past? I'm wondering if this might have been the problem??

Joy, are you back at work after ec? Was it done under ga? How did it feel?

mrsd - your situation is not hopeless at all. You have this extra hurdle to get through yes but once that has been taken care of, you will be raring to go. MrD's sperm count may not be good for natural conception but it's absolutely fine for icsi. Remember, Roy's boss had 0 sperm and he had to be put to sleep to get it from the testicles. ICSI worked for them. It will work for you. As for me, I can't even begin to get hopeful. I've worried for a long time that i have wonky dna caused by having my laptop on my tummy whilst i was at Uni. Perhaps my karotyping is wonky. These are just some of my fears.

I have just read that thread about someone wanting a girl...why i bother i don't know! Then i have just seen a thread about people getting excited about ttc their first. Ah i remember those innocent days. A distant memory.
All our babies on this thread will be our miracles and we will be forever grateful.. We will be better parents for it. I'm sure of it.

Mrsd - the abnormals have normally been fine i think. His morph is normally about 6/7% but this is suppose to be fine. His count is often around the 200m mark and so on balance everything is normally fine. I am sure the issue is me.

I have today off. They put you under deep sedation so it's a bit like a GA. Having been petrified of being put to sleep , i have now been sent to sleep 3 times in less than 3 months. There is nothing to fear as you just know nothing about anything. It's very strange feeling, quite amusing. I was quite nervous today but i woke up and felt a bit groggy and was in pain but nothing a paracetemol can't sort. Because you'll have your lap first, by the time you come to EC, you'll know what it's like and will be less nervous.

helloooo
I can't stop as I've got all manner of issues here (viv Beirut a top secret that everyone here already knows ) including the fact that I'm loosing power again, and therefore internet soon for 4 hours. Aggrr this has been a most trying week all in all.
I just wanted to say how pleased I am for you joy and that I read an american study that correlated higher pg rates from IVF with those with a higher egg yield. I tried to push it out of my head due to my own crappness in that regard but now I have a use for the info.

Joy, the lap top on tummy made me laugh. I'm guilty of that too. I wonder if that's the cause of my dodgy tube I've been wracking my brains trying to think what could have caused it and so far come up with nothing so the lap top can take the blame for now.

I know the tube is just another hurdle. But I always felt like the crap sperm was a big enough one. Because I have a fear that even the few he does have will be bad quality. Because I'm a pessimist I'm now convinced that whatever has caused the bad tube will be the death knell for our baby hopes.

I know it's easy for me to say this but I feel so hopeful and excited for you. Goodness knows you've gone to such great lengths including sending your menstrual blood to far flung lands. That deserves a baby. Or four. Remember, even if this transfer doesn't work then the next could well work. Those of us going for ivf have to remember its a long game. I can see why your clinc gets the results it does, it sounds like they don't leave anything to chance. You'll know that you've tried everything ou can. Your baby will be very lucky to have parents that wanted it so much.