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TTC after recent mc - thread 3. Handholding, naff jokes and the infamous Laura Ashley skirt.

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JamesAndTheGiantBanana · 13/12/2012 10:09

Happy new thread! Here's hoping for lots of Christmas and new year bfp's, and long healthy pregnancies for everyone. Smile

OP posts:
chocolateteabag · 23/01/2013 20:43

Hi Ark - please tell us more about your Cafe press shop, I am intrigued.. Having said that, it would be tough going to do craft type stuff after you've had another DC? (just thinking about the time aspect)
Are you restricted mobility wise? What about doing something like Pampered Chef or Stella & dot evenings/events. They are the "new" Tupperware parties.

ArkadyRose · 23/01/2013 22:14

Chocolate & Thundercats - The creating would take less energy than you might think; the images I create for t-shirts, mugs etc are all digitally painted in Photoshop (yay for Adobe giving CS2 away for free! Grin), and the majority of the designs I have up at the moment were painted as part of a "30 in 30" project - 30 paintings in 30 days, so one a day. They're speed paintings; each one took maybe an hour or two tops, painted in the evening after putting DD3 to bed. The shop is here. Generating more artwork for products is actually the easiest part. With Cafepress, I just have to upload the art, choose what to put it on, and Cafepress handles the rest. For actual physical stock, quite a few printers allow you to upload artwork then they print it on t-shirts, mugs etc and ship it to me; most craft fairs take place at weekends, so OH would babysit whilst I went off to run a stall - plus a couple of friends organise craft fairs and would be willing to take my stuff along to sell on their stalls. And I'm good friends with the owner of Phoenixx Rising, a mail-order alternative-wear shop, and we've been discussing me producing some exclusive t-shirt designs for her.

It would all fit in around kids pretty easily and would be perfect - there's just the not-so-minor stumbling block that having initial stock printed up for craft fairs would cost m £200-£300 that I just don't have right now.

Does Mumsnet have a section where I can advertise myself? I was wondering if there'd be interest in custom painted portraits of people's babies?

We'd planned on holding off until I' had at least one cycle, preferably 2 before TTC, so I figure that gives me a couple on months in which to try and make this start to get off the ground - at least in terms of portrait commissions & Cafepress sales, anyway. Plus painting is therapeutic and keeps my mind off other things. (Like the fact that three friends all gave birth this week, and another just announced her pregnancy. Sad)

GardenWorm · 23/01/2013 22:15

ibip you are doing a grand job of making me feel crazy - are you actually me? Mine were 5 and 8 weeks too. Oh and I have come to the conclusion that sometimes I am confusing hormonal changes associated with AF for pregnancy symptoms because I really want the latter. The 'symptoms' are so slight that if I wasn't actively ttc I wouldn't even notice them, tingly boobs, random cramps etc. seriously they are so minute but I just look for anything to give hope for a bfp, which doesn't help. Back to rocking and chocolate. Chuck the Lindt love. Anyone got any Ferrero Roche???

IBelieveInPink · 23/01/2013 22:21

Impressed with your art ark!
Sounds like you have a plan, just need a bit to get started. Fingers crossed you get that very soon :)

IBelieveInPink · 23/01/2013 22:25

garden sorry. Don't mean to push my crazy on to others!
How about this?

Thundercatsarego · 24/01/2013 08:14

Well I joined you in the crazy corner for a while and af arrived, so that's a result for me. Grin

ark tha Cafepress looks great- it's so cool that they can show so much different stock on there without you having the big payout to start with. So are you in the US? Although it's a lot if you don't have it, £200-£300 is a relatively small sum if there is a small grants system you can tap into?

So...garden and pink, are they really the same person. Sure, they're both crazy and I'm not sure I've ever seen them in the same place at the same time. Hmmmm...

Bakingtins · 24/01/2013 08:16

Thunder I prescribe roller-blading in white trousers.

Pink sorry you are having a hard time. I know what you mean about waiting to MC again. The 3 MC rule is really tough. I can understand why they have it, sadly I do know lots of people who have had 2, and in most cases there isn't anything that has prevented them having a successful pregnancy later, so it probably is the case that you've had terrible luck and it will be ok next time, but it feels awful that you've had to go through it twice and the medical establishment is so dismissive.

I feel similar, I'm so fed up of TTC and feeling like life is a bit on hold, it would almost be a relief to get pregnant, MC and give up on the whole idea. How negative is that? I do really want another child, but I am losing the faith that we'll ever get there. Having a 3rd MC would put me out of my misery sooner than trying unsuccessfully until our deadline (but would be just my luck to try until then, get pregnant last chance and then MC)
There - I must be madder than a box of frogs to think like that! Blush

Thundercatsarego · 24/01/2013 08:34

tins do I still have to do the white trouser thing now she's arrived?! You really are going for the humiliation angle!

I understand what you're saying, and I think a lot of it is just not knowing- its such a cruel time, emotions and hormones all over the place, the joy of getting a bfp but the fear or devastation of a mc. If we all had a crystal ball and could know what will happen, however hard, then at least we could prepare our hearts or choose to avoid the heartbreak.

To think- I used to find af's arrival hard, now I'm delighted as it gives me a small clue that my body might be working!

I've gone off on one again haven't I?

shellshock7 · 24/01/2013 08:34

Just popping on to say aaaggghh I think I may have just took the award for 'craziest TTC mentaller of the month' for January:

Smell of filter coffee in work just made me feel a bit sick and I thought....oooo could be a sign...I'm only on CD15 and don't usually ovulate until CD19 Blush. Oh dear Hmm

Thundercatsarego · 24/01/2013 08:41

Grin shell, I take your crazy and I raise it... I just felt sick when doing my teeth and thought oooooo!

Not 3 minutes after discovering and celebrating af arrival.

IBelieveInPink · 24/01/2013 09:59

To add to the crazy, I poas this morning. 4dpo. I know, I know.

Tins, I completely understand how you feel. I do think thunder may have just stumbled across something though - we need a crystal ball!

Thunder, yay for af!!! About bloody time! Pleased you back in track.... Another month starts!!!

Thundercatsarego · 24/01/2013 10:01

pink why don't you just give yourself a break and poas every day if you want? Don't be so hard on yourself, you're doing really well and if that's what you want to do- just bloody do it!

Yeah been thinking more about my ramble and it's clearly being so out of control which comes with the not knowing. That's the ball breaker.

shellshock7 · 24/01/2013 13:10

I second thunder...just POAS pink it's not hurting anyone and you already know the result at this stage before you do it, but if you don't you spend all day thinking 'what if'...I just bought a load of internet cheapies ready for when I'm at your stage cos I know what I'm like!

I do think you are all leading me astray tho, symptom, spotting before ovulation...during AF...and 4 days DPO...we are making each other crazy ha ha

Bakingtins · 24/01/2013 13:28

Sorry Thunder cross posted! As you were. puts rollerblades back under stairs I'm sorry AF got you but at least you know where you are now.

I'd love a crystal ball, if I could look a year ahead and see a baby or a healthy bump it would all be so worth it, if I saw me, just older and sadder, I'd give up now and save myself the stress.

ArkadyRose · 24/01/2013 13:39

Thunder I'm in the UK; Cafepress sells internationally. If you look up on the top right side under the main header bar, you can change the currency to GBP.

I understand the urge to POAS - I think I must have gone through about 6 or 7 tests in the 2WW with th one I lost last month! I got 15 cheapies off Amazon for £2 just to be prepared for next time, assuming we get to a next time.

lexib · 24/01/2013 15:59

Sorry to jump in mid conversation, but how does everyone prepare to poas? I don't mean like rain dancing (though frankly I'm up for it if they helps), but just gearing up to actually do it?
I so want it to be positive, but likelihood in first month after mc not high.
Does anyone not test and just wait? Do you force your dh to look at the stick for you? I hid it in a box last time till he could look (yep, daft I know)

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat · 24/01/2013 19:44

mirror mirror on the wall, who's the mentalist of them all? ooh yeah it's meeeee! ibip i see your poas and raise you x 4!! yup, i just can't leave those little cheapie sticks in their cupboard under the sink, even at night cos obviously that's the best time to poas doh even with a few af crampy style tummy twangs i'm still trying to hold out for a BFP although i know i'm being a dick

re when i poas...i'm just an crazy pisser-on-a-sticker really! no sentimentality here!! i tell it to hurry the up but so far, it's just that darn test line. i actually put it in the bin and then hoked iy out 30 minutes late..ya know..just in case haha!!! crazy cat that i am!

CoffeeForSally · 24/01/2013 19:49

Can I join the crazy corner? My boobs are KILLING me, I have heartburn/queasiness, and I can only face eating vegetables. And I have had to pee four times since lunchtime. I am seriously thinking of POAS on Saturday (and frankly would do tomorrow but I'm on a work course in the middle of nowhere).

I am on cd20 and o'd about Monday (I think). I am clearly insane. HELP.

lexi I've just been waiting for AF to show up since the MC but it hasn't really been an issue since the damn thing keeps showing up at 10dpo. I think this might be the month I crack and just start testing all the time though.

pink p on as many s as you want to, if it helps. And find me a crystal ball while you're out there.

IBelieveInPink · 24/01/2013 20:17

Lexi - I'm afraid I also can't help. I am scared to look at the damn thing every time, BFP or bfn. But I can't help but look!!

Right, crystal ball mission. Will also accept time machine, or psychic.
Do you think an ad on gumtree might work?!

Thundercatsarego · 24/01/2013 21:53

Evening all. How are we all doing?

I actually like the idea of doing a standard poas a day from some point. Usually the poas is so built up that there's so much pressure either way. Do it as a morning activity just like opks, make it more normal. I dunno- could work?

littlepinkfizz · 24/01/2013 22:28

AF due next Tuesday and have one frer left. Used it today knowing it would be bfn just so I could stop obsessing about when to poas.....but I got 2lines!! Faint,yes, but definitely a line!

Can barely believe it! This is my due date for the mmc I had in July! I hope this is a good omen!

Know however that the chances if yet another mc are very high so not even telling DP til next week if all goes well...

Thundercatsarego · 24/01/2013 22:30

Oh pinkfizz!!!! Fanbloodytastic! Right, I have no poasing to do so I will be keeping fingers and toes firmly crossed for you. Positive sticky sticky vibes Grin Grin Grin

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat · 24/01/2013 22:32

Oh fizz that's the best news!!!! So excited for you!! No idea how you'll manage to keep that to yourself til next week!!! Fx that this is the first of many before the end if the month!!!

littlepinkfizz · 24/01/2013 22:52

Thanks ladies! Really, really hoping this one sticks. Had a mmc at 13.5 weeks in July and had been really sick,and also had antenatal depression( even though I was longing for the baby). So was so,so devastated when the scan revealed the mmc.

Will be knicker checking like mad now. For me, blood of any kind is bad news. None of my pregnancies to term ever involved blood, so praying this ones the same...but no antenatal depression again please...for my family's sake x

IBelieveInPink · 24/01/2013 22:57

Oh pink! How exciting! Congratulations! And may I say, thank you for highlighting the merits of poas early. And 6 days early no less! Well done to you :) I really hope this one is a sticky one for you.

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