Trying to conceive after mc? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Recently graduated from the mosh pit? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake part 4

[Jollyb]

I've started the new thread - how exciting!!

I hope this thread will bring lots of BFPs, good scan results and healthy new arrivals.

Feeling a bit down today. Another birth announcement from one of our pals. That's the seventh this year. I know I should be pleased but I'm just not. (Bad person). I've somehow managed to avoid meeting any of the babies so far this year but DH wants us to visit this new baby on Boxing Day. Totally can't face it. I don't think Christmas is bringing out the best in me. Even when I get to 12 weeks I'm not sure I'll feel differently about it as I'm high risk so I'll be panicking that things could still go wrong. Bah Humbug

Thanks for being so understanding and supportive everyone. I've lost my symptoms today but am trying hard to enjoy a day off and remember that early pregnancy can be a bit weird like this rather than going completely mental.

I had intended on not making any contact with the midwife until I was happy I was 12 weeks. Just not sure I can see the point in it. I was booked in in June and was low risk and as everyone medical I've attempted to discuss things with since has pointed out, 2 1st tri mc is no big deal. Right. Twats.

The midwives at our local EPU forgot to go to the ' pretend you give a shit' course so I don't really fancy going there unless I absolutely have to. I sound like a bit of a bitter old hag but it's a toss up really which part of losing our babies was worst, the people I thought might show a bit of compassion being so matter of fact and cold or the losses themselves. I don't want to have to cancel another appointment either cos it hurts.

Congratulations to all of you who are getting there with new pregnancies. Have been lurking on and off since late summer so I know a few of your stories

Hi all. Just popping my head round the door to distract me from the pile of essays I should be marking...hello to the new ladies. snorks, sorry to hear you have had bad experiences with HCPs. The staff at my EPU can be lacking in compassion too (first prize to the consultant, who on the morning of my ERPC - having been nil by mouth on the ward for 24 hours while they tried to get me on a theatre list and by this point so dehydrated I was on IV fluids - didn't express any sympathy but told me that he was determined to get me done that day because he wanted the bed). I tried to rationalise it to myself by thinking that they're so blase because mc is so common (which must mean that most people who go through it go on to have normal pregnancies, which is true as we know, of course). It's shit, though, and you have my sympathies.

I'm 23 weeks on Weds. I've been feeling baby move since 15 weeks, but she's really moved things up a gear in the last week or so, which is great. There was an article about prem babies in the Times on Saturday, which said that at 23 weeks they have a 25% chance of survival if born then. Not exactly great odds, but I find it a bit reassuring that at least she'd have a chance. The odds then increase to 50% at 24 weeks and 60-70% at 25 weeks, which is pretty amazing really - the difference that one week can make.

Wow, state! Can't believe you are so close to meeting your baby - and finally finding out the sex! Really looking forward to hearing about your little one when you get chance to update us.

I am hiding as AF due in 3/4 days... Can't even think about it right now. Will properly catch up,at the weekend one way or another....

yikes we all know how you feel i avoided our nephew unti i was 20 something weeks, it does get easier last time i visited them i was excited to have a squeeze, be gentle with yourself.

I will come let you know what this elusive little baby is as soon as i can, with my hospitals new visiting hours and dp running around on school runs for the big two i will need the company of mumsnet a fair bit :(

I'm metalling harder than i have for months, all seems to good to be true right now.

First of all congratulations snorks. Remember this is a new pregnancy and their us every chance that all will be ok. I know what you mean about the midwife booking appointment- I would have happily waited longer to refer myself in this time but in the end thought I'd better get in their system so I could have my 12 week scan booked etc.

yikes - umm I'm not sure that would be me ideal way of spending boxing day either though for some strange reason I find newborns easier to deal with than pregnancies. I'm seeing tactless my NCT friend on thurs -think I've moaned about her before - she's 8 months now . Give me strength.

mrs HP fingers crossed for you .

pebs so glad all is well with you.

Errg. Bit of a panic here. Had just finished writing a friend saying I'd had no spotting to speak if this pregnancy and was begin to think it might be different from my two m/c pregnancies when I noticed some spotting. Not at all like previous spotting - was an odd reddish flake of material, like a scab or chapped skin, with very light pink CM.

Know it won't mean certain doom even if it increases and know there's nothing to be gained fom worrying regardless, but can't stop my mind from going through various depressing scenarigrin getting worse through the day, ringing travel insurance again, going to ER, getting scanned and hearing bad news, miscarrying over Christmas, etc. etc.). Fuck.

scenarios, not scenarigrin. What an odd autocorrect!

HJ that was the kind of thing I had before my scan last week. Doc told me it was from a bleed near the sac. She was unconcerned. Hope that helps you. My gp said any bleeding in early pg entitles you to a reassurance scan particularly if you have had mc before.

Christmas makes everything like this do much more stressful!

hjb. I won't even say 'try not to worry' as you will be but remember that spotting in early pregnancy is very common.

How long until you come home? In your position I'd be tempted to go through the hassle of getting a scan firstly for reassurance, and secondly it might be helpful to know what is going on if you're going to be spending a long time in an aeroplane.

Will be thinking of you.

Just a quick hello from me - for some reason I've not been able to view this thread on my phone for weeks. I wrote a nice long reply on Sunday (twice!) and it didn't post.

So here goes! I'm nearly 19 weeks now, getting more confident as I'm feeling movement on a daily basis now. Had a mini-meltdown a couple of weeks ago & an almost-sleepless night worrying about a late loss, but am calmer now.

And I got my amnio results back - all clear! And it's a girl!!!! Am over the moon as I have a DS already! It's helping me "buy into" this pregnancy a bit more. I can even begin to imagine having a baby now. Which is news to me! Still feeling funny about telling people though. Might wait till after 20 week scan before I do.....

Good luck to everyone, especially hjbeans snorks and also state - it's a big day for you tomorrow!

Fantastic news on the amnio cheese

Yey cheese! Wonderful news xx

Thanks, mrsd and jolly - impossible not to imagine the worst but do feel reassured and no more bleeding throughout the day. Have called insurance who were brilliant. I am covered for this - I can do as I like and they'll settle the bill directly. DH has just arrived, so going to go in tomorrow for a check. I'll be back home in ten days, but will be good to be reassured or at least to know more before Christmas and long journey. Thanks again for your kind words - his board is a great support.

Hooray for the amnio cheese and best wishes for tomorrow state.

Great news cheese

Beans thinking of you. Hoping all is ok xx

Hi there. I've been AWOL for a while, and not read back through the thread. Just wanted to add my support for those of you ttc after mc. I found the support here wonderful. So, an update, which I hope will offer some hope to those still travelling this bumpy road. And apologies to those who find it all too hard to read... My youngest child, DS2 was born on 6/12/11, one month early and 2.3kg. A semi elective CS due to critically low amniotic fluid. Baby doing well after 8 days in NICU and SCBU. placenta sent for pathology. Hoping it might shed some light on the cause of 2 placentas packing up and one mmc.

Bonzo, congratulations on your early Christmas bundle. Glad to hear DS2 is doing well.

Ah Bonzo - many congrats.

Just had my follow up scan - all fine and the bleed has resolved. Phew.

Very pleased to announce the safe arrival of Lily Mary Hope at 10.03am today weighing 8lb3oz x

congrats state and bonzo good to see a couple more graduates!

CONGRATS bonzo and state!

congrats on your girl cheese

Congrats state - wonderful news, enjoy your little girl!

Congrats to bonzo, too, a great season for new additions.

Ah state many, many congratulations

bonzo and state so so happy for you! Welling up here at your wonderful news. Glad your LOs are doing well.

I haven't been on for so long, I'm very out of date with all the news, so,I'll have a read through when DD is in bed. Though last night, I was asleep before her, so that might not work!

I'm absolutely shattered, 20 wks pg now. Still not completely recovered from the pneumonia, with viruses galore on top. I've been off work for prettyy much 6 wks now. i had several colds on the go from the moment I left hospital. Then DD had tonsillitis and croup. Now I'm getting a sore throat. So instead of relaxing at home off sick, with DD at nursery it's been 2 grumpy people in the flat for about a month. Seriously I've hardly left the house in 2 mths apart from going to the GP and a few half days back at work, Ok moan over.

Good news is 20wk scan was brilliant, saw him YES IT'S A BOY!!! and he is beautiful!

Hope all is well with everyone and I'll post more than memememememe when I've had a read through.

sorry have realised that my moaning is awful for those still TTC, I am very grateful for my little bean. Hope your TTC journey is very short.