Trying to conceive after mc? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Recently graduated from the mosh pit? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake part 4

[Jollyb]

I've started the new thread - how exciting!!

I hope this thread will bring lots of BFPs, good scan results and healthy new arrivals.

Hey Bel I think heartbeats can be picked up from 6 weeks usually. Will have everything crossed for you!

Hi everyone, still here. Congrats on all the scans that are going well.

Nothing much to report from me about to embark on the 2ww...

pebs and yikes

bella you should be able to see the HB at 6+5.

Plucked up the courage to phone the midwife. She was lovely - very positive 'this is a new pregnancy and this one's going to be fine' (without minimising my history if you get what I mean). Booking appointment just after Xmas. Hopefully this won't be the 4th midwife appointment in a row that I've had to cancel.

Ah Mrs HP was wondering how you were doing.

dorita have you had your appointment yet?

Hi. Doc said what I expected. No guarantees. Red blood not good though can happen in early weeks. I need a scan but havin one anyway next Thursday. Got blood forms for now and in a fortnight to monitor hcg.

Stretchy feelings common particularly post c section. She was nice but I felt like a lunatic.

Also suggested I stay off work til scan. I want to avoid that really. Told her I would play it by ear.

Lovely to hear the good news on this thread. Here's hoping it rubs off!

Just popping in because I missed you guys, :)

Hello to everyone. Wishing you all lots of support and success on here. It's a great thread and really helped me through 2 mc. X

pebs you've got my sympathies with the anterior placenta. Mine was this time and it drove me mad. The movements did get stronger, but were always a bit lacking for my liking. One thing that used to help was lying down in a dark room, after ice-cream, with elastic on my bump, you know the bands that they put on you with the sonicade? I asked to take them home! And that slight pressure seemed to help me feel things... But if you are really worried, ring the hospital. I know you are not 28 weeks, which is the kick count time, but they should let you in at 20+ weeks if you are worried about fetal movement.

Glad everything is looking good for you jolly, great news. I had my acupuncture appointment, she said the fertility issue is easier to treat than the migraines! I'll go back a few more times and see if it has any affect. Got my appointment at Liverpool women's fertility clinic on 19th, with a scan to check my tubes etc..on 15th.

Jaffa! I was thinking about you the other day, hello!

mrshp fingers crossed for the 2ww. I'm in it too, can test from tomorrow but going to try and hold out...

jaffa hello . Hope you and baby Clara are doing well.

dorita glad things moving forward for you. You know the best way to get pregnant is to book a fertility clinic appointment don't you? I don't know about acupuncture but my friend had a session with a monk and it worked for her!

mrshp enjoy your 2WW

mrsd fingers crossed for you. 3+ on digi definitely a good sign.

Now I need a mini vent. I phoned my usually sympathetic sister yesterday to tell her about the events of the week. Her reaction 'oh dear - I'm really tired too, I've got so much wrapping to do!!'

Morning fellow moshers, how are we all today? jolly your sister sounds very sympathetic...

I've just had a job interview and I don't think I did myself justice at all. Mind went blank during the questions, although the presentation I did went quite well. Just waiting for the "thanks but no thanks" phone call.

So I'm 27 weeks today, plodding on. Seeing consultant a week on Tuesday to discuss section. Looking forward to that appointment...

Hello all - at jaffa you are a bit legendary to me... I came here as you were leaving and love your good news tale! Hope you're enjoying your lo.

Hope it didn't go as bad as that backward - you never know.

Here's a question: What's the difference between stretchy feelings and cramping - and when should one be worried? Think my cramping is mainly due to constipation/wind but it feels in the same place as AF type pain, but different. Ie it doesn't 'wave' like AF pain, is just more constant.

Have started an experiment by not taking prenatals (but am taking FA still) to see if that helps reduce cramps and so far have had stretchy feelings but no cramps.

Any words of wisdom/reassurance/panic?

Hello all, just thought I'd pop over from the other ttc after mc thread.

Brave, for me the stretchy was all over & not just in one place (I think we're about the same due date?).
Mrsd, fingers crossed for you, 3+ is a really good sign.

I'm 5wks today (mc late Oct/Nov) & this morning my belly sort of went 'pop' and deflated, my boobs are smaller again & I have cramps in the same place constantly...like when I had my mc, so another one looking for reassurance!
I've got a DS but can't remember what early pg was like with him!

Good luck for everyone in the 2ww!
possom, hope you get a positive phonecall (or at the very least feedback). One time during an interview I was asked if I was spontanous, and responded by singing 3 times a lady at the interviewer....I didn't get the job

Didn't get it, as suspected. Onwards and upwards!

Commiserations possum hope it wasn't your dream job.

brave I think there's a fine line between cramping and aching but suppose if you were having cramps you'd probably know about it. I had quite a lot of pain when pregnant with DD to the point I went to the EPU - everything was fine.

garybusey'steeth enjoy your trip over from the other thread. Try not to read too much into symptoms- they really can come and go in the early days. It's so tough though once you've had a MC.

Now I've just had a rather frustrating trip to the GP. I made an appointment as I'm feeling quite tearful and thought I could perhaps do with some counselling to help get me through the next few months.

She basically said that she could refer me to the mother and infant team but it might be best to wait and see what happens with this pregnancy, given my history. Nothing like positive thinking hey!

Oh crikey. I think we all need some Friday love in here. How about some triple chocolate cookies, non-alcoholic beer and some hot chocolate all round?

Sorry bout your job Possum - at least you didn't sing 3 Times a Lady and then not get it... (Sorry GBT but that is rather fun!)

What a miseryguts your GP is JollyB! Seems to me you have to now get this little one in your arms to prove her wrong

Gary the pop and deflation sounds very familiar. Wind is an evil thing. not that nice laydeez like us experience such things I've seen a big improvement in crampiness today since not taking multivit prenatals. The feelings are very much 'stretchiness' rather than crampiness and much less scary. I think this confirms to me that most of my crampy pains have been bowel related.

Tis pretty stressful though.

Time will tell

I thought it was, but on reflection, maybe for the best. I did, however, have an interview for a different job this afternoon, and I got that one! :)

GBT that did make me laugh! Brilliant! X

I'd have given you the job garyb! What a fab way to show spontaneity!! You've given everyone the boost they needed today

I've been on work christmas do tonight, first one sober in 18 years!! Not pg, but in 2ww and have more or less given up alcohol, but did have a lovely hot spiced buttered rum, deelicious. I was pg (tho didn't know) at last year's do so felt a bit odd but strangely positive for a good 2013, get this horrid 2012 out of the way!

Hurrah for getting the better job possom!

JollyB, your GP sounds like an arse. I like Bears suggestion of you proving her wrong with this one...and hoping at some point GP will get covered in baby sick or wee.

Thanks for the reassurance about my, erm, bits. Everything still feels deflated but trying to be positive.

Dorita, hope you had a great night & weren't the only sober one there (which can suck!)..good luck in the 2ww!

Hope everyone has a good weekend, I shall be mostly trying to get the last few christmas bits in & avoiding Dr.Google.

Hi all. Not been on for a while just having a catch up. Congrats to all the recent BFPs and good luck for the next few weeks. I know how stressful it can be but Jolly your scans sound very positive.

Not having a good week at all this week. AF arrived as expected on Monday but this one has really got to me. Think it's because I really wanted to end such a difficult year on a bit more of a high note and it seems to be taking ages to get pregnant this time (last mc in July so I know it's not really that long but it hasn't been for lack of trying!). Went out for a meal last night with some of my NCT friends, one of whom is pregnant and due just after I would have been. I never told her about my mcs as I didn't want her to feel awkward around me but she just kept banging on and on about being pregnant (quite reasonable as she is 7 months) and I just felt telling her to shut up. I actually feel like I don't want to see her for a bit because her pregnancy is such a reminder of my loss. I've really been trying to get stuck in to work to focus on something else but it just seems pregnancy and babies are everywhere! Now KM's pregnant it's going to be even worse and she's not even 12 weeks, why does everyone keep saying "she's having a baby" as if it's inevitable!

Sorry vent over. Think all this mc and ttc is turning me into a not very nice person. Thankfully dh has been brilliant this week and I know how lucky I am to have him and ds, it's just all got to me a bit this week.

Hi buzzy, I can completely relate to your post about how ttc changes you into a not-nice person and wanting to end the year on a positive. We started the year all happy and positive and with lots of friends. We got engaged and started ttc in January this year and got married in June so it should have been a perfect year. But we had a mc two weeks before our wedding and it all went downhill from there. I avoided all of our (five!) preggo friends at our wedding and have avoided them since. We almost have no friends now and the people we hang out with now tend to be much younger than us and child-free. DH and I didn't have the best start to our married life due to the sheer stress of ttc. When I made a comment to my sister about 2012 being a horrible year she was shocked as it was our wedding year. But she got preggo straight away with each of her three children so she doesn't really 'get' how hard ttc can be. It all changed for me when DH and I went on a week's all-inclusive do-nothing holiday that forced us to relax. It was at a non-fertile time for me too so there was no pressure to be dtd all the time. And I came away feeling quite different about it all. I really hope you get a good relaxing break at Christmas. Maybe that will be the boost you need? Take care. xx

buzzy and yikes there's nothing abnormal in these feelings. I think I reached even lower in the 'awful friend' stakes when a close friend told me she was pregnant. I went through all the 'why isn't it me and it's not fair' emotions - fair enough you might say, but this friend lost a baby at term last year. I am so ashamed that that was my first reaction to her news.

Having a lovely lazy Sunday morning. Caught up with xfactor and off to my sister's for Sunday lunch. Hope everyone else is ok .

Thanks so much Jolly and Yikes I think I'm finding her pregnancy particularly difficult because it's at the stage mine would have been. I can't expect her to be sensitive to how I feel though when she doesn't even know what's happened! Another friend also had her second this week which spiked my jealousy a bit, she did take 3 years to get pregnant with her first including 2 failed attempts of IVF though so nobody could accuse her of having an easy time of it.
Feeling much better today (if slightly hungover) after a works Christmas do last night. They all know about my mcs due to one rather gobby person who told them all. One work friend in particular though, who had a mc when I was pregnant with ds has helped me put things in perspective.
Really glad things are going well for you now Yikes and Jolly. This thread has certainly shown me how things can turn around.

Belated congrats on your new job, possom. Hope all is well for you despite 'deflation', gary. It's really hard not to assume the worst will happen again. Hope all others are doing well and have enjoyed a restful and/or fun weekend.

At 6w4, I'm officially past the point of my previous two miscarriages by a few days and tentatively feeling hopeful -while not really believing anything till my first scan scheduled for 10w2.

Had been feeling a bit uncomfortable in the weeing/bladder area so worked up the gumption to invoke travel insurance (I'm out of the UK till the end of the month) and went to get tested for a UTI.

Now on an antibiotic (nutrifuantoin?) for a week. Looked it up as the name on the bottle was not the name on the prescription (brand name switch) and there are lots of studies saying it's the AB of choice in pregnancy and one questionably valid study which suggests it may increase risk for birth defects and m/c. And of course there are forum posts from women who feel it's to blame for their bad outcomes.

Do wish there was one authoritative information source for all things pregnancy related to keep me from fuelling my pessimism with the Internet.

HJ I believe nitrofurantoin is fine in pregnancy (well as fine as any drug is!).
6+4 yay. It feels so great to pass milestones doesn't it. Seeing a HB was a huge step for me as I have never got that far with any of mine. I am also feeling completely lousy now which I think is a good thing - at the same stage with my blighted ovum I felt fine.

I'm still having very mild brown spotting but from my extensive googling I think this is quite normal after a subchorionic bleed. I must admit I'd rather I wasn't . Only 10 days til another scan . . . .

Cheers, jolly. Sorry to hear you're still spotting and can well understand how stressful that is. Imagine it helps a bit to have identified the source of the bleeding in your last scan and be able to know this is normal in those circumstances. Do hope it stops for you soon though. So good you've got regular scans to help you know where you stand - hope your 10 days go quick.

I've been terrible about knicker-checking and unsubstantiated feelings of dread today. Feeling just a wee bit crampier and for some reason stupidly certain I'm going to start spotting any minute. Perhaps it was spending a few hours in hospital yesterday to get the UTI sorted and subconsciously thinking of previous hospital visits for miscarriage and that this is what I'd be doing, without DH this time, if it goes wrong in the next week and a half.

Hate the rollercoaster of moods - its not that I'm actively thinking things will go wrong or even feeling outwardly anxious, both of which I have strategies for (lots of statistics and relaxation techniques). It's just an impenetrable and illogical feeling of profound pessimism, of "I know this will not end well", which I find I can't argue myself out of.

Really looking forward to my first scan - I've never seen anything in a scan. First mc was too early and the second I was out of the country, like now, and didn't have access to a scan until after I'd passed everything naturally. Hope seeing a sturdy little HB in there will help this feel a lot more solid and give me something to fight off these certain doom moodswings with.

Had thought of treating myself to one here in the US after DH joins me here, but seeing as a simple pee-in-a-cup UTI diagnosis (on travel insurance) cost nearly $1000 , I'll be waiting till I'm back home in January!

OMG $1000 for a UTI check? That is insane thank god for travel insurance (and the NHS).

Sorry you're worrying though HJ maybe having DH nearby will help.

How you doing JollyB? Hope you're not too worried about the brown stuff, I may not know much but it does sound pretty normal to me.

Hey Buzzy Really hope 2013 is your year. I think your reactions seem totally normal to me - in fact, I'm wrestling with my own demons at the moment as friends of ours came out as pg last week and we saw them at the weekend. Despite non-disclosure agreement, DP spilled the beans when I was 6+3. I totally freaked out.

All three of them are happy to 'have someone to talk about pg with' and while I found it nice enough, found it annoying how positive and upbeat they were. The guy in particular was taking the piss about the 'dreaded 12 week safe point' like it was an imaginary issue.

In fairness, this is their first pregnancy, and I haven't told them that we had an early miscarriage last time, which would have been due the same week as their baby is due. But I found the blissful innocence a little hard to take.