Elderberry Pavlovas Unite - the over 30s TTC number 1

[Bunnygirlie]

Hi y'all, Welcome to our new meeting place :-) Let's refresh as usual -

Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, due to OV this week according to app

captain it's how structurally sound they are. I think motility is one of the key things. Not sure I percentage of healthy sperm contributes to morphology analysis but I presume it would be.

not sure if.
Also, how interesting is this?!?

Sorry,

Aw bless apparently they travel in a straight line!
wonders if this TTC thing has finally sent her potty

quod - we used conceive plus, and as you know, only did it twice (on consecutive days) in fertile time. Hmmmm maybe it wasn't a waste of £15...

zombies - is it wrong I think they look quite cute?!

I've been using concieve plus, but I shall do so every time this month.

janey I think they're cute too

...of course, to my twenties eye, they would have looked insidious, wriggly little disasters each one!

Zombies that video is fascinating, although because it is home made I assume the bloke who made it was the donor?!
It's amazing that those random little mad swimmers manage to find the egg in our complex plumbing system.
I also find it amazing how the egg is swept up by the fimbraie (which seem to look like sea anemone's) into the fallopian tube rather than just floating off into the peritoneal cavity. When you look at it in such detail it's so complex and there is so much that could go wrong. It's a miracle that anybody gets up the duff ever!

zombies - hilarious re your twenties eye.
I might start trying to use the work insidious on a daily basis, it's fab. Which reminds me of when my best mate and I used to set each other challenges during our A-levels to make them more interesting () - my favourite was when she challenged me to include the phrase 'in the olden days' in my history exam. I completed it, of course yes, still proud and went on to study history at a top ten uni

rache - feel ashamed of myself. Peritoneal cavity? Fimbraie? This is all news to me.

yep, clearly didn't do A-level biology

Thanks Zombies
I went and found an interesting blog post by a fertility doctor (sorry, have now lost it again) where he says morphology is basically a bit pointless as, the more they investigate sperm shape, the more it seems like there's no such thing as 'normal' sperm, and under current directives, it's impossible for any guy to score more than about 5%!
I think I might attempt to talk DH into trying the conceive plus and see if that helps. All my tests have come back normal so far.

Thanks for the video!

Don't tell your DH about it.
I just apply it when having my pre bed wee and wash!

haha! thanks for the tip Pip! It's all about the self-esteem isn't it?!

I think the name conceive plus is what puts men off. I had no trouble when I started off calling it "the lube I got".
It was when I applied too much and things got a bit umm too slippery is when DH started objecting...

On this front- no symptoms- no twinges, pains, pulling, extra peeing, headaches, smell sensitivity, nausea, spotting or any signs of life (!) whatsoever from down there. Just a little CM from time to time.

Zombies the Ovary is near the Fallopian Tube but not connected to it. The ripe Egg pops out of the Follicle and has to be collected and guided into the tube by the Sea Anemones, er, I mean Fimbraie on the end of the Fallopian Tube. The Peritoneal Cavity is just the bits in between the organs. I think that I have probably done a little too much research into TTC!

Zombies I also have the same non-symptoms as you I am starting to think mine is phantom.

Me too rache and zombies. Do you think we want it sooo much we've tricked out hormones?
Remember what I said about us elderberry pavlovas suffering less with morning sickness than our young comrades...

rache I find the medical/ science aspect absolutely fascinating. See I didn't know about the fimbriae so will research tonight!

Well Captain, I find that if I do it that way DH doesn't realise that I'm lying back and thinking of babies.

I hasten to add, in my case it is most definitely phantom

Pip I'm exactly the same. I put it on while in the toilet and then he thinks I'm extra horny . Only used it twice so far but will do the same this month. God I'm so deceptive !

Me too for the total lack of symptoms. I think it's the reverse - I think that there is soooo much longing and expectation built up around conception and pregnancy that we expect and look for changes far far earlier than we should really expect them.

My sister got pregnant accidentally last year, and because she wasn't paying any particular attention to her cycle she was at least 6 weeks before she realised her period was late. By then she had sore boobs but nothing that would scream 'PREGNANT' at you. She didn't develop MS until week 8. So essentially she missed out the whole bit of week 4-6 without any 'symptoms' to make her think of pregnancy. I am keeping that in my head!

Rach I have become a bit obsessed studied the biology of reproduction very carefully as well, and like you am frankly staggered that any fertilised egg ever implants. I mean, the sperm could meet it and then it could just go wandering off in the wrong direction.

Welcome Brave to the gang of old gals trying (and some suceeding) to get up the duff and welcome back captain!

Just back from work and gym and catching up with all yours posts, don't have a fancy phone so only check in before and afterward work. Had horrid day today, I'm all grumpy and emotional.

And no I haven't POAS, I don't see the point :-(

Quod I'm glad it's not just me That video is scary at how efficient the whole process is. To be honest though, after learning all this I thought I would never get pregnant because it's just too bloody complicated! I feel like the more I know about the process then I can somehow mentally influence it by somehow willing my Fimbraie to waft in the right direction on the right day or something!