Elderberry Pavlovas Unite - the over 30s TTC number 1

[Bunnygirlie]

Hi y'all, Welcome to our new meeting place :-) Let's refresh as usual -

Bunnygirlie - 32, married, TTC since June, due to OV this week according to app

If that's unusual for you Pipbin then that sounds like a good sign. Of my 2 bouts of spotting I think the one that was most likely to be implantation was at 8DPO. It started about midday and lasted until I went to bed. If yours is implantation then it means that a BFP should show up in a couple of days My Sister got her first (very feint) BFP at 8DPO. I have got absolutely everything crossed for you!!

Sadly Rache it's only too common for me. I spot quite a lot, and until recently from 4 or 5 dpo onwards.

Lovely to hear how you ladies with BFPs are getting on, glad you haven't deserted us ;-)
No real symptoms here for me apart from (get ready for tmi) itchy bits, is thrush a symptom or maybe my body didn't like the conceive plus?!?

Very personal question Rache but what was your implantation spotting like? What colour and consistency was it? If you don't mind answering of course.

Of course I don't mind Pip, I just usually assume nobody wants tmi. It was red at first just like the start of AF and then it got pinker as the day went on and appeared to be a mix of blood and lotion-like CM. There was so much of it at first that I considered putting a tampon in. My second lot of spotting 4 days later only lasted a few hours and was a bit browner. When it was happening to me most of the obsessive Googling I did suggested that implantation spotting was mostly old-looking brown stuff but this was not my experience.

Thanks Rache interesting that there was so much of it and it was so red. All the website wisdom says brown really.
It does mean its really not over until AF sings.

I was thinking how nice it is that the BFPs have stayed around - it gives us TTCers a light at the end of the tunnel!

Pipbin, I am also one who spots a lot and (it might be coincidence) I've been taking Vit B, Vit D and Folic Acid for the past couple of months, and it seems to have reduced it. I hope yours is implantation spotting this month!

I am off to Greece tomorrow - can't wait! An enforced break from the househunt, which is depressing and time consuming. (I am writing up at the moment so I am taking my laptop and writing there - trying to eek out the advantages of the final stretch of my PhD!)

Pip you know your body and what is normal/unusual for you..

I've been taking Vitamin B too which has helped. So has having an HSG.
I don't think this is implantation, just regular spotting.

Of coruse we won't leave this thread, not until we have a bunch of BFP Elderberries to start a new thread with.

Let me tell you though, you think the 2ww is long? It gets worse! After you get your BFP, every day to get closer to week 5,6 etc is endless. I never had weeks so long in my whole life, and week 12 is ages away..

Has anyone had a CBfM not give them a peak?
This is the first cycle I have been using it. It has been showing me a high since day 9, which I understand it generally does from early on if it is cycle 1 and it clearly errs on the side of caution whilst it is establishing a baseline.
But it's CD 22 and even though mine is a 40 day cycle, presumably ov should have happened by now (the My Days app said it should have been yesterday. I also might have been imagining it thought I had some EWCM.
Does this mean I didn't ovulate or can this happen on the first CBFM cycle- many highs but no peak?

Oh god Hazle I see what you mean...you just graduate from the 2ww to the 8ww really don't you?

Never used it zombies - but I'd imagine that if you're on a 40 day cycle it may well have not happened yet. Doesn't it happen, on average, 14 days before AF? In which case would be day 26?

I'm meeting a load of friends drinking tonight. Suddenly got really paranoid about going out (I will only have a couple of glasses, and have absolutely no symptoms of being pg) so bought a first response early response test. I know it's inaccurate in about 40% of cases at this time, but I thought it was worth a shot - if it came up as pg I'd obviously make an excuse not to go to avoid the booze. Unsurprisingly BFN. Not giving up yet though, but will be having a drink or two!

Hazle - I KNOW. When I was pg last year (before mc at 12 weeks) those 10 weeks from finding out I was pg were the longest of my life! Not helped by the fact my ex was an arse so I was even more stressed than ever.... I really want to get pg asap but am almost dreading that time-stopping-still feeling if it happens!

zombie ? I use the CBFM. I always gets a peak but I have heard that the first month it gives you highs while it's getting to know your cycle.

Have you been dtd just in case?

Zombie. I used the CBFM, but I have two. One that is mine and one that I got from ClearBlue to trial.
Well the one from ClearBlue gave me a peak on day 16, but mine didn't, and in fact is still giving me a high even though I'm on day 23. I have ovulated, I'm sure of that.
I guess what happens is that if it doesn't get a peak then it encourages you to keep going!

Zombies since beginning TTC I have done loads of reading up on women's plumbing and I believe that no matter what your total cycle length is you Luteal Phase will always be 12-16 days long (unless you suffer with LPD,) with 14 days obviously being the average.
So it seems like it probably is EWCM that you have and you need to have a few nights of romancing ahead

I getting the feeling that I'm out really.
More brown spotting at 8dpo. I know it coud be implantation but I'm just not feeling it.

Thanks all! Am DTD - every night- so it is becoming a bit of a marathon. Argh why can't humans come with a little green light that lights up when OVing?
I read a few threads on the net that suggested that a long luteal phase was possible and shouldn't cause worry. Anyway will keep on DTD just to be on the safe side.

Hooray! I've FINALLY got some symptoms in the form of ever-so-slightly, blink-and-you-might-miss-them sore nipples (although bigger boobs are still disappointingly absent).
I have been observing a July 2013 due date thread and the women on there are all talking about how they have every symptom going, can't stop throwing up, have a bloated belly and are getting into maternity clothes already!!! I am going to have to stop watching it because my lack of symptoms is making me feel inadequate.

Pipbin brown spotting is a textbook sign of implantation. Is your spotting usually red or pink? I didn't feel it either and still don't. It's not over until AF has sung

Rache I nearly always get spotting at this time. I know it doesn't stop all my chances but this is just the same as I normally get. It's clear brown, if that makes any sense. Like brown CM really. I only get it after TMI i have a poo.
I know it's not over until she has sung, but I'm treating it like she has so not to get my hopes up, like saying you are 30 rather than 29 just to get used to it!

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Rach was just thinking about the same, besides sore boobs, I don't have anything. No morning sickness, not tired or emotional, not bloated, nothing. So obviously am convinced it must be a mmc, blighted ovum or something. Or maybe we're just lucky.

oh but as for growing boobs - I'm sure it's like with most things in life, they'll only grow if you don't want them to. My bras were getting too small, so ordered some new ones one cup up, and they are just borderline, should have gone up another cup. If they grow one more size, there will probably be only 2 models of bras available, black and beige, both looking like anti-missile body armour. Oh the fun.

Hazle I just want some symptoms to show up for reassurance. I genuinely never anticipated how scary this part would be. I was so focused on getting my BFP that I never considered the worry beyond it. DH keeps saying that I might not have many PG symptoms but I also haven't got any pain or bleeding so there's nothing to suggest there is anything wrong. I'm going to have to start listening to him and step away from Google for the sake of my sanity!
It sounds like you have my share of the boobs

I am 5 weeks today and will be 12 weeks on the Thursday before Christmas. Do you think they will get me in for a scan? I really hope I don't have to wait until after Christmas. I am going to New York for New Year and I think it would ruin Christmas and my holiday if I don't know everything is ok.

Hey rache I hope this isn't insensitive, is meant to be reassuring....

When I found out I'd had a mmc at 12 weeks last year, I kind of blamed myself for not going to the doctors about the lack of symptoms I had whilst pregnant. This is what the consultant at the hospital told me.

1. Yes, you are marginally more likely to have a mc when you're over 30 than when you're under it. However the odds are still low.
2. Women over 30 tend to have significantly less pregnancy symptoms than those under 30. However, most of these women then go on to have perfectly healthy babies. Doctors aren't sure why they have less symptoms, but it doesn't mean it's a bad thing, it's just the way it is.
3. I had no symptoms at all, and my baby was fine, developing normally and had a heartbeat at 10 weeks (had a private scan as I couldn't stand the wait and was worried about lack of symptoms). Something sadly went wrong after that. But the doctor pointed out that the lack of symptoms wasn't a bad thing: the baby was fine until 10 weeks, and I was symptomless then too. He said I was just one of the 'lucky ones' in that respect.

So I guess what I'm saying that no symptoms does not equal bad news at all. You're just more likely to have none because you're over thirty. And that was straight from the mouth of a senior consultant at a hospital - not google folklore.

Sorry to have talked about a mc on an otherwise positive thread, but I just hope it might offer some reassurance....

Also, one of my very best friends has just had her 12 week scan (all fine) and she had no symptoms at all until 8 weeks (then she couldn't stop being sick). So you're still in very early days for symptoms anyway.

The odds are with you that all will be fine. It is massively nerve-wracking though I know.

I've certainly got everything crossed for you and hazle.

oh and ps they have a very small window when they can do the 12 week scan - so I guess when they scan you depends on where that window sits around Christmas....