Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 10

[MoJangled]

Our new home, hope you all find me soon...

Had five friends visit today, well a couple with three kids, my daughter was a bit cross that the middle kid messed up all her stuff - I did explain this is what little kids do! Have talked to DD about adoption. She is not the kind of kid who will be asking me about it all the time, she is asking me about everything else all the time anyway! It is funny as she has been saying she really wants a baby brother! I keep saying it probably won't be a baby and it might not be a boy!

Hugs to all.

Bugsy sorry to hear about your flooding. Nightmare. Hope you can get it sorted soon?

Yay Maple how lovely to see Little Poppet waving! So fab to hear that all is well.

Mo well done on making progress ? it is hard to keep facing forwards when, as you say, the fertility Gods are not being very nice.

Hi Italian I love your stories about DD, she sounds like a bundle of fun. Bless her for placing her order for a baby boy!! You never know, that might be exactly what comes your way

i'm back to work tomorrow after my two weeks off - second time this year i've had to go back to work, hoping to be pregnant, but not being so.Got a severe case of Sunday-itis.... DP has been fab today though and really made a fuss of me...

Hope everyone is well... here's to a good week all round. We blooming deserve it!

Hey all

Just got back from a hen do! (where I've sat and drank water and decaff coffee for 2 days instead of yummy wine and champagne) so haven't been online much

Pocket and Mo sorry to hear your news

As for me OTD is on Wednesday but I've had awful cramps since Saturday night so I caved in and did a test (an out of date one with early evening pee!!) which was negative :( so I'm not holding out any much hope for Wednesday

Starting to plan how we go forward from here now

Oh Ellie i'm sorry . But hang on till Wednesday and test again, you never know... x

Ellie so sorry to hear that. I have everything crossed that Wednesday may bring much better news.

Pocket sweets hope your first day back at work was bearable. I think you are remarkably strong to have done this all over already twice this year. Personally I've found that being back at work, has been fantastic. The days just go so fast, and besides limits my time to 'google' my life away! I hope you are doing okay ox

Mo I agree, those fertility gods need to shine some love on us down here. Sounds like the call to your doc was productive? My miscarriage bleed was too very short. Only heavy for like a day then average for another 1/2 day and that's really been it. I'm too a bit concerned that there's some left there. I am going to go to gp on wed and ask to be referred for a scan to check all gone. I am guessing seeing the NHS so far hasn't been very helpful they will try and put me off, but I really feel it would help me to move on, both mentally and physically.

bugsy so sorry to hear about your flooding. Last thing you need now my dear. Hope the insurance comes through quickly.

maple and scrummy I loved hearing about your scans. What wonderful news. Maple how sweet about little poppet giving you a wave.

Italian sounds like your adoption moves are progressing well. It's really great to hear you sounding so at peace. How long might the whole process take do you know?

Thank you all for your kind words. I think my 'bath moment' was hopefully the peak of my sadness and I have made small moves this week to try and get going. I'll feel better once I've been to the gp and hopefully had a scan, even just to reassure me it's all over and there's no nasty surprises in like a month's time or whatever. And I won't pretend that I would like the scan to just help me move on. Draw a line underneath it or whatever. Also thinking about returning to the gym, seeing friends, you know reclaiming my life!

Big hugs to all oxox

Thanks Sunny. First day back was okay really. And like you said, it's good to be busy (and noI googling).

Think you're right to push gp for a scan - don't let them put you off. . You may well find that it shows nothing left (sorry sounds so harsh but you know what I mean) and you can move on. And give those fertility gods another run for their money!! x

maple yay for your scan. It's so lovely to have happy stories.

Ellie will keep fx for Wednesday.

Italian the time just seems to be zipping past with the adoption - It feels like so recently that you started looking and now things are starting to slowly take shape. I'm so pleased its going well.

Afm, I've started my monitored cycle with argc. First bloods were fine, just waiting for immune testing now.

Happy Monday to all xx

OTD today and it's still negative :(

Will be phoning the clinic later to make a follow up appointment and to see where we go from here :(

Sorry to hear that Ellie. In the immortal words of Scarlett O'Hara tomorrow is another day, not sure that helps but I'm rubbish at sympathy sorry x

Hope everyone else is ok.

Update from me, the PCT refused to consider moving my funding and I couldn't be arsed to fight them, so after working myself up into a bad state last Friday I sent an email to the consultant I was originally referred to [who I haven't acually seen yet] and outlined all of my concerns about the fact that I was being pushed into a huge medical undertaking without any attempt at investigation or diagnosis, the complete lack of consultation to date, and also asked for some medical evidence to back up the idiot consultant who told me my eggs were all crap and I should consider donor eggs at 35!

I got a response in 2 hours, very apologetic, offered me an appt with that consultant next week which we have taken. I feel better becasue i can prepare for ths one, and go armed with all my questions.

I've also booked a counselling session there this Friday, which I wanted to go to alone but OH has said he wants to come and he's booked time off work.

Even the end result is the same, hopefully she will explain how & why we've got to this so quickly and be a little less fatalistic about the whole thing.

PS/ can someone please call Summer and let him know he seems to have slept in [this year Summer is definitely a man] it's bloody miserable here...

Ellie sorry to hear that. Make sure you take some time to digest and be good to yourself.

Scarlett go you - very impressed with your effective email to consultant. I can't say how disappointed I've been with lack of answers and clarity throughout this whole journey. If I had a broken arm they wouldn't tell me it may or may not heal and wouldn't fob me off and yet with infertility they constantly do that. Very frustrating!

Oh Ellie I'm sorry hope you get some guidance from Clinic. I'm having my post bfn follow up this week. Fx we get a push in the right direction.

Well done Scarlett for persevering. Really hope this consultant gets it!!

Btw I've emailed summer, he is sulking with the lack of bfps. Sunshine and bfps will resume in full force imminently

Saw the cutest baby today - with a v cute nose a bit like dp. Really focused me on another a other try with ivf!!

ellie so sorry time and be good to yourselves?

pocket that sounds really positive hope tomorrow is helpful

scarlett go you good on cons for quick response. Am surprised re pct did not think they could do that.

Anyone had MTHFR gene tested? My report says MTHFR gene homozygous now does that mean normal. GP comment normal phoned lab today got impression that is wrong. Now have to try and get consultant from a different hospital to get result and I am itching to know, repeat patience patience etc.

ellie sorry to hear your news

Haven't been in here much been out of the zone for a bit.

bugsy think it was you that mentioned testing or immunes? Consultant suggested it when we saw him last night to discuss next try. Will have blood tests and then potentially be pumped with a few steroids before next attempt. We will probably get back on the bus in Sep after hols

Hugs to all

Bugsy I have homozygous MTHFR too - it means that both your copies of the gene are abnormal (you can also have heterozygous MTHFR where you have one normal copy and one abnormal copy)

For me I took extra folic acid and also vitamin B12 and B6 while I was pregnant and I was also on heparin injections throughout but I also have another clotting issue on top of the MTHFR

I phoned the clinic yesterday with my results but as I'm still not bleeding I have to stay on the drugs and retest on Saturday!!! The nurse said it was unlikely that anything will change but that is their policy just in case talk about drag things out :(

Ellie sorry to hear your news, and that it's dragging on until the weekend for you.

Scarlett Well done you for e-mailing the consultant and trying to get better answers. Hopefully they will give you better care from here on in.

Hi Pocket good to hear you sounding so positive.

AFM, had an appointment with a consultant yesterday as I am a high risk pregnancy because of the IVF but more due to a Loop excision I had 18 months ago. A very dull 1.5 hour wait past my appointment time before I was seen and then she just said they'd monitor things so bit of a non-appointment but worth the wait as the lovely consultant used a machine to let us hear the bean's heartbeat for the first time. Wow. Mainly I'm just relieved that it takes the pressure off waiting for the 12 week scan next Thursday as I was terrified that something was going to have happened between the 6 week scan and now and there would be nothing there. So am reassured. For the moment. Now to find the next thing to worry about...!

Waves to everyone else!

Ellie so sorry to hear it wasn't better news. These clinics sure like to drag things on don't they?

Scarlett am too impressed. you sure made that consultant finally take some notice.

pocket you sound like you are doing okay? Are you armed and ready with questions for follow up appointment?

bugsy sorry luv I don't know anything really about the chromosomes. That would be bugging me too till I got some answers. Hope you get some soon.

weller we may also be looking at a Sept/October new start. We may be cycle buddies.

badger must have been great to hear bean's hb. Really great news.

Has anyone who's had a MC had horrible headaches after? Have been having killer ones for almost 2 weeks now. Almost every day. And standard over the counter painkillers making no difference. Am sure it's just hormones attempting to settle down but it's not much fun. Okay that's my moan for the day over, oh and of course I must also have a little moan about the summer, or lack of it!

oxo

Weller sounds like you've made some good progress with new tests, results and treatment. And you can have a couple off months off too!

Ellie hope you're managing not to drive yourself crazy. Massive fx you get a different result when you retest Saturday. x

Badger lovely to know you've heard that hb. You're right about this being a series of things to worry about but you can at least tick one more off your list!! And next week youll get to see miniBadger too

Sunny sorry to hear about your unshiftable headache! During my treatment I've had some crackers that would not shift with regular meds. I believe it's the hormones and meds. Having said that I've had a headache all week and someone told me today there's a bug doing the rounds. So maybe it's that. I always find something with codeine helps - it helps me sleep too. Hope you feel better soon my lovely.

Bugsy honey how are you doing?

ellie thanks I should know better and if I had the full results in front of me I would. But what I have been sent is half result but am sue GP has reported it incorrectly. Ho hum. I was advised by care to get I think it was called femibion but could not find it is normal dose folic acid but has added factor for allowing those who don't absorb process it properly to do so that will be us then. I will probably retry to get it and take on top of the 5 mg. hope you find distraction through the wait better a few days wait than a mistake as horrible as it is.

pocket thanks for asking am doing ok though have not called the acupuncture lady yet but I will. Am doing phase 1 of harcombe diet do not really agree with it but DH wanted to do supporting him back to low GI and exercise after. It is only 5 days so v doable. Repeat scan and haematology appoint tues. how are you doing now?

sunny is ibuprofen not helping? You can get diclofenac/ voltarol over the counter dose is 50mg three times a day stronger than ibuprofen. Think OTC tablets are 12.5 mg so would be 4 and you could take co-codamol as well as long as you have no problems with anti inflammatories or codeine. Headache is probably your body just resetting. But if it is not getting better you get any other symptoms vision etc or worse on lying down to the dr's please. If you want more info pm me.

To everyone else hope you had as glorious evening as we had sitting outside till 9:15

Sunny by problems I mean asthma stomach problems like reflux indigestion, ulcer allergy etc

Hi has a new thread started or has it just all gone quiet ?

I'm here weller, I don't think a new thread has started. I'm sure there'll be more action on here again soon. How are you?

Yes its gone very quiet on here that's for sure.

Lucy you must be due v soon, how are you doing?

Weller how are you?

Sunny Bugsy hope you're both doing okay

Ellie just wondering how your re-test went yesterday.

AFM I saw consultant yesterday and whilst i've been given every hope that i could conceive, have a healthy pregnancy and have a baby, we are literally back to square one. We'd need to join the waiting list for a donor (again!) and that may take 3-6 months. DP and I have talked it through and we would both like to try again - and can even, just about, face into another the tonne of money this will cost again. But the biggest worry is the wait - if i have to wait 6 months for a match, then a month or two to sync, i will be 46 by then and that's really freaking me out.... but you never know a donor could be found quicker. In parallel to the clinic searching for me, I'm going to see if i can find my own donor (not really sure how but will post on MN conception and infertility sections and see how that goes - i've seen a few threads previously where lovely donors have come forward so you never know). Alongside that, i'm also looking into going overseas where the waits are shorter, but that feels like a whole lot more hassle with flights, hotels etc. Weller i thinl you had treatment abroad, how did you find it all? feel free to PM if you'd prefer... i'd be grateful for any insight you could share.

Hope you're all having a nice Sunday - come on Murray!

x

I'm lurking as well weller so hope this is still the right thread after me taking 2 weeks last time to realise there'd been a new one!

Pocket Good to hear your update. I read a thread recently where someone was looking for opinions about non-UK clinics and a poster said that there was lots of info on Fertility Friends so you should have a look on there if you've not already. Ditto re posting for a donor, the more people who see it the greater chance! Altough I hope that your clinic comes through for you in as short a tme as possible. Good luck!

Hi all

Retest on Saturday was still BFN :( so have stopped all meds since Friday night however I still haven't had a bleed so god knows what's going on! It's more than 3 weeks since egg collection so AF has normally been and gone by now

ellie sorry that's rubbish for you and frustrating that nothing else happening. Have you spoken to consultant for advice?

pocket glad u have decided to go for it again despite the cost it all seems like it will be worth it when we think we get a baby at the end doesn't it
I have not had treatment abroad just done IVF here but my friend has just been to Barcelona, has started taking the pill for a month to sync with donor and she will prob have transfer in August. They paid €10k for 2 attempts. It all sounded very straightforward as the clinic has 4 universities nearby so no shortage of donors! Am seeing her tonight so let me know if you want any info. She was recommended the clinic by her long time consultant after having ovarian cancer several years ago.
AFM I am good just chilling out until early Sep when I get back on the bus
Waves to everyone else and glad I hadn't lost you all!