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Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 10

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MoJangled · 13/06/2012 14:23

Our new home, hope you all find me soon...

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MiniH · 06/11/2012 13:48

Pocket I am thrilled your results were good today. FX the next two weeks flly by and you get to see your little mini-pocket!

Sacha great news on the embies

sunny wow, decisions decisions! I am really thrilled the bank has come through for you and you can go ahead with NHS. You are definitely definitely not ungrateful or unnecessarily sceptical - this is a huge decision to make, not just financially, but physically and emotionally and it is definitely not as simple as just giving it a go one place and then another. The only things I would add is that, certainly in our PCT, you start to lose NHS eligibility after private cycles (e.g. if you've had one private, you can only have two NHS, and if you've had two privates you can't have any NHS). I would double check how yours works if you are considering doing ARGC first and NHS second. I would definitely factor in the daily trips to ARGC. It isn't too bad at first - during down regulation you are in every few days, but once stimming starts you are in every day including weekends. The twice a day thing isn't too bad as long as you are not working, as you can hang around the clinic/the local cafe's with the other cyclers and it is actually really supportive and sociable. The other factor to consider on the NHS is whether you have any issues that simply won't be addressed by them e.g. I have PCO so I need to have really carefully monitored doses of stims to make sure I get best possible eggs. An NHS cycle on standard drugs would be entirely pointless for me for example. I would also quiz them on when they do EC and ET i.e. weekends/holidays as several of them don't which means you are having early/late EC/ET which isn't ideal.

So, what would I do? I'd go to the ARGC appointment and ask a million questions. I would then ask to do the monitoring cycle with them, which will include immune testing. That way you will know if you have any immune issues which would mean an NHS cycle would be less useful. Equally, if you have immune issues which are low grade, you could still have immune treatment at ARGC whilst cycling with the NHS so you are not losing time/you'd still get some benefit of the immunes whilst on the NHS. Yes, monitoring cycle and immunes is not cheap, but from memory its about £1000 all in as immunes are about £695 (double check the breakdown I sent you in case i'm wrong on this) and then you've got couple of blood tests and a scan (I think).

the cat I really hope you are o.k. and are just too busy to drop in. From memory you would have had your scan end of last week so FX it all went well.

AFM, I had another scan yesterday (so that was three scans in 8 days!). Little bub is 7 weeks today and was measuring in at a healthy 8.8mm and strong heartbeat yesterday. I have now been switched to weekly monitoring, which is a relief as although its lovely to see progress every few days, they only do that at this stage if they are worried, so its accompanied by a huge amount of stress.

Hey to everyone else reading xx

Hoophopes · 06/11/2012 21:48

I like your thinking there Mini about the monitoring cycle. ARGC is so different to many private clinics - the private one I was with was a Care, so althought they did weekend ECs and ETs as it was one of the larger ones they did a standard stimming protocol and no immunes unless you asked (they suggest only after 3 failed IVFs) and queued to see the top guy who is no longer there (he is in London too now, sob!!).

Mini great news on your scans - wow, your little one is doing amazingl. Weekly progress sounds a good step down, ready for NHS that don't intervene unless there is a problem (and when there is a real problem boy do they work fast as I found when I caught a life threatening infection at 31 weeks!!) - that was a great shock for me, standard scans, standard midwife appointments of 10mins etc!! But in reality it was lovely to know I got standard care much of the time, as they told me all was well and healthy. Great size now, they say if you get to 8 weeks the odds are very good!! I loved that 8week scan.

Well after 8 months of breastfeeding my cycles have returned (still breasfeeding but less often and think supply running out sadly) and now I am broody! Got Gp to give me 5mg of folic acid just in case there is an amazing miracle (but had immune meds last time ready for next ICSI cycle) - I need this dose due to coeliac disease. Do I sound totally mad?? Decided, for now, not to try any more ICSI - as this little one was a miracle (one month after a stroke, 2months after failed ICSI though on immune medication), but age in not on my side and would love a sibling - which I know is greedy as we are thrilled with our one.

Pocket1 · 07/11/2012 08:18

Frosticle good luck today. Everything but everything crossed for you. xxx

Sashabella0 · 07/11/2012 09:12

Yep best of luck Frosticle and thanks so much for your support everyone. Starting to feel a bit premenstrual Sad

Xx

sunnyg · 07/11/2012 13:03

pocket such fabulous news that your results are great. And yes, it really is happening. It's so hard to believe isn't it? Not long now till the scan and you get to see mini pocket. Really very happy for you.

frosty I think it's the big day today right? Will be waiting to hear your good news!

sasha my dear try to stay posative. Really premenstrual symptoms? Are you just feeling a bit emotional, which is completely normal.

mini I am thrilled for you that mini mini is making such good progress. ARGC must be feeling confident to let you move from such intense monitoring to now weekly.That is excellent news, and you must be so glad to get a break from the daily visits. Hopefully you can relax a little now and it's not nearly so stressful. Great news!

I really, really appreciate the time you have all taken to post your ideas, thoughts and suggesions about my dilemma. You've given me a lot to think about. I live in London so getting to ARGC wouldn't really be a problem. I'd probably take some time off to manage the pointy end of the treatment with the twice-a-day visits etc. I've checked and previous private cycles won't affect my eligibility for NHS treatment so that's good to know. I could probably push back the NHS treatment for a month or two, maybe 3 but I guess after that I would potentially loose my spot and have to potentially re-apply again if needed which of course would mean quite a wait again. But that's completely understandable. But mini your idea about potentially a monitoring cycle with ARGC to see what it may uncover is something I hadn't considered and a really good idea. And something I will talk to them about at our appointment. I have no idea if I have any immune issues, but I guess most people don't. You are all so right, each cycyle is so taxing on so many fronts that I've gone way beyond 'just giving it a go'. My next clinic will be my 3rd, already, and I want to make sure it's the right move. Anyway I really appreciate all of your thoughts, it really helps to see things from different perspectives. No final decisions until we've been to our ARGC appointment on the 19th. I'll keep you all posted! oxox

Sashabella0 · 07/11/2012 13:26

Hi Sunny

It's more physiological signs such a very light cramping and slight colour when I wipe. I know this could be Itchy and Scratchy settling in, but it feels far too familiar!

This is my first go at IVF so hopefully just being paranoid! At least I've got work to keep me occupied!

Xxx

Frosticle · 07/11/2012 15:22

Mini great news re your healthy little one! Must be very reassuring to know it's all going well in there.

Hoops -NOT greedy at all to want a sibling for your baby. Slightly crazy - only slightly - to want one quite so soon! Wink

Sasha - premenstrual, pregnant, full of hormones - I think it all feels pretty much the same!! Seriously. It's all bit too early for premenstrual anyway so I would opt for feeling very encouraged that it's the other thing. Sending you a big hug and sticky vibes. Smile

As for moi, moi, moi .......... BFP!!! Whoop, whoop!!
(Can't wait for my DP to come home so I can tell him! I refused to tell him over the phone - I want to see his face - but can hardly contain myself!).

Thank you ladies for all your lovely support.

xxx

lucylookout · 07/11/2012 15:36

Frosticle, hip, hip hooray! Wishing you a thoroughly uneventful 8 months!

MiniH · 07/11/2012 16:11

Frosticle yay! Can't believe you are holding on till your DP gets home. He will be so excited.

gingernutdreams · 07/11/2012 17:42

Woop di woop woop Frostie!! Really fab news!! Grin Grin So pleased for you.

Pocket1 · 07/11/2012 18:00

Frosticle congrats. That is blBiscuitBiscuitdy marvellous. You'll have to paint a verbal picture of DPs face - when is he back? Bet you can't wait to tell him!!

*Sasha, symptoms or no symptoms are not a hugely reliable indicator either way. It's so hard but try not to worry. And keeping distracted is a very good move.

Seriously, don't stop believing
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Pocket1 · 07/11/2012 18:02

Ginger I think your consultant appt is tmw - hope it goes well my dear. How are you feeling about it? Let us know how you get on x

BadgerFace · 07/11/2012 18:41

Yeah Frosticle Amazing news! I hope your DP is home now so you can see his face. Is it like this Grin

Sasha I hope you're okay. Defintely try to distract. As Pocket says you can't tell from symptoms/no symptoms, they are very similar and they come and go (the little buggers).

Sashabella0 · 07/11/2012 18:42

Frosticle what fabulous news. So happy for you girl!

Thanks for your reassurance Frosticle and Pocket. Hurry up next week!

Grin xx

Beginningofthejourney · 07/11/2012 18:49

Woohoo great news Frosticle! :-)
Sasha I second the advice, I drove myself a bit crazy with symptom or lack of symptom spotting. People said to me you 'know' if you are pregnant or not, even after my BFP I still don't feel any different!

Hoophopes · 07/11/2012 19:24

Congratulations frosticle great news. Enjoy the moment with dh!

wellerbabe · 07/11/2012 21:46

frosticle brilliant news well done, the good news keeps flowing on here GrinGrinGrin let us know the details of DP's reaction

Starting jabbing myself tomorrow can't wait Wink

Big fat BFP waves to everyone Smile

Pocket1 · 08/11/2012 07:11

Hurrah Weller is back in the game. Good luck with your first jab today. Lots of love

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sunnyg · 08/11/2012 09:34

frosticle that is absolutely fantastic news! I cannot wait to hear DP's reaction. What a homecoming!

weller fab news about being back in it.

Keep the good news coming ladies!

oxox

Hoophopes · 08/11/2012 12:13

weller hope it goes well.

Frosticle - my theory is it took 7yrs for one baby, so haven't time to waste as don't expect it to work!!

MiniH · 08/11/2012 14:59

weller yay on being back in the game! (slightly wrong that I'm happy you get to inject yourself but you know what I mean Grin)

joycep · 08/11/2012 22:49

Hi - sorry for rudely jumping in, I normally reside over on the 10+months thread. I have started having the odd lurk as ivf is looming. Congratulations to everyone who has got their bfps.

Sunnyg - I notice you have a similar dilemma to me. My appt with the ARGC is next week and then a few days later I have a post-lap meeting with my nhs gynae who will be referring me to ivf and i don't think there is a long wait. paying for the ARGC won't be easy but I am in a dilemma about whether to do the nhs round or whether my best chances lie with the ARGC. My amh is extremely low , I'm 33, and because of the amh I don't feel time is particularly on my side. Anyway, I think i will go along to the argc and have a monitoring cycle and get my immunes done and see if this throws up anything.
Sorry to jump in but just wanted to say you're not alone!

Pocket1 · 09/11/2012 17:46

Welcome *joy. And good luck next week. Pop back and let us know how you get on Smile

sunnyg · 09/11/2012 17:48

Hi Joycep and thanks for your message. Wow our situations are very similar and it's really great not to feel alone in this. It's a super difficult decision isn't it. Two complete opposites in terms of options, but great to have options. I'd love to hear how you get on at ARGC next week. Please feel free to PM me and keep in touch.

CaipirinhasAllRound · 10/11/2012 07:39

Hi everyone

I've posted once before and have been lurking since

A massive congrats to all the recent BFPs! Brilliant news and really encouraging to read.

I started down regging on Wednesday. Anyone else sniffing/sniffed? It's ok but I'm starting to feel sorry for myself. Not helped by being woken up the past few nights by our neighbours brand new baby

This my 1st go at IVF and is on the NHS at Oxford Fertility Unit - just snuck in as the max age here is 35 which I'll be the week after EC.

Hope everyone's well and got fun weekends planned