Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 10

[MoJangled]

Our new home, hope you all find me soon...

Lots of good news! Really pleased for everyone's good news! X

Hi, new to this thread but have been stalking it for a while during our first IVF cycle. Am now 10dp2dt of two grade 1/2 but started to bleed yesterday and continues today. Have done a super sensitive test today and bfn so now coming to terms that it's over. Am obviously gutted and just don't know how we keep going at this. Had a miscarriage in may after a stimulated IUI cycle. I was so sure this would/had work, since iui did, and I'm now just reeling. How do you keep going?

Sorry for an incredibly 'me' post..hope you will bear with me this evening.

highlove welcome and sorry to hear anout your experience. I'm not great at saying the right comforting things but I am great a hugging, even virtually, so am sending you big hugs. There are many ladies here who have been through similar experiences to you and will be able to advise you. Look after yourself and don't beat yourself up xx

fantastic news today from mo and mini. Loving your positivity and it looks like it's working. Really, really great news. mo when is next scan?
mini I know it must seem that all of this constant monitoring can be quite worrying, in that the ups and downs can probably make you quite anxious, but I must say I am very impressed with the way ARGC has handled things, and bringing you in for the urgent scan today. At least they are doing something as opposed to not as many clinics tend to do.

and pocket your good news today is like the icing on the cake. Good on you and mini pocket. Fabulous news.

bugsy am very sorry to hear about your DM. But you are one strong lady and you will get through this. I hope the treatment goes well.

high love welcome. I'm really sorry to hear about what a rough time you've had. I had a MC after IVF in June and I must say it was probably the toughest time of my life. But slowly I started to feel better and with the support of all of these wonderful ladies here, I'm inching my way to starting a new cycle. But I totally know what you mean, it's really hard to find the strength to keep going. But if you read back through some of the stories of the ladies on this forum, you'll see that there has been plenty of good news after some very long, very difficult journeys. And that there my dear is your inspiration to keep going. And besides, our theme song here is aptly 'don't stop believing'. However in the next few days, weeks etc, make sure you take all the time you need to feel sad, angry, confused etc. And come here for support!

big wave to frosticle, beginning, ginger, cat, badger, scrummy, teds and everyone else I've missed.

Mo, Mini and Pocket - wow, what MARVELLOUS news!! Am wearing a BIG smile and am delighted for you all.

Bugsy I am so sorry to hear about your DM. Am sending my very best wishes and sending you a big hug.

Welcome to high love. I'm very sorry you're having such a tough time. I don't really know what to say but I'm sure the lovely ladies here will give you some great positive advice and encouragement. Look after yourself, be kind to you and give yourself some time.

AFM, I had ET on Sunday. It all went extremely smoothly and I now have a wonderful little double A grade embryo on board! Whoop, whoop! (They gave me a photo of it which I'm ridiculously pleased with). Of the other three embryos I had on Friday, two didn't make it and Friday's front runner had turned into a C grade by Sunday and was, unfortunately, unsuitable for freezing. Anyway, I feel so grateful that the one I have gives me the best possible chance and as they say, "you only need one". Fingers crossed!

Pocket so very happy to read your news and Mini yay for your good news too xx.

Great news Mini, Mo and Pocket!

My scan yesterday revealed 7 mature follies and 1 almost there. There's also a potential other one. Had my hCG injection at 21:45 last night so was are set for tomorrow.

I had a thought yesterday. Does everyone take their socks off for scanning? I don't normally, but I did yesterday!

Xxx

Sasha that all sounds very promising for tomorrow!! Good luck!!

Re the socks - I leave them on although it's not a good look.

Sasha good luck with EC. I was about 50/50 on socks - Dr may be using dildo cam but I only apply 'socks off' rule to sex

thecat hope you are feeling more upbeat. I guess we have the opposite situation at the moment - I feel like i'm having a little too much monitoring and you wish you had a bit more. I definitely don't have any preg symptoms though, unless you count slightly sore boobs, and that's def because my progesterone is still stupidly high, even though they've dropped my dose.

Frosticle yay for being on the bench. Sounds like you have a perfect embie. Now feet up and take it easy and don't let the evil google gremlins lure you in....

pocket double yay! so, so pleased your levels are up. Hopefully that will be the end of any bleeding and you can start enjoying your BFP.

highlove welcome, although I'm so sorry to hear about your BFN. To be honest, I think every woman/couple is different in how they cope. We had a BFN after our first cycle in April and I found time away, doing everything I couldn't do whilst on treatment, helped us to re-group. I also changed clinic, did some more research and felt much more positive about why it would work a second time when the first time hadn't. I presume your clinic offers a follow-up appointment so see if they have any suggestions of what can be improved/changed next time. Sometimes there are things that can be done, and sometimes, as annoying as I found to hear this, it is just rotten bad luck. Do whatever feels right for you and your DP and try not to think ahead too far, as it will feel really overwhelming.

xx

Pocket that's brilliant! Really really brilliant. Now look after that bottom - no more shocks and only minimal bumps, save the big bump for the Massive Fat Pregnancy you're heading into!

Mini how wonderful to have seen the heartbeat already! Especially if they're still fussing with your levels. I found it really gave me hope every time I envisaged it pumping away, so full of life, every time I had a wobble.

Frosticle yay to your perfect transfer and powerhouse attitude! May the 2WW fly by.

Cat hang in there, you don't have to have symptoms, but the digital tests can show you increasing levels of hCG up to 5 wks plus if you want a bit of reassurance!

Sasha sounds like you're doing really well! Good luck tomorrow!

Loving the outbreak of good news on this thread!

Pocket that's brilliant! Really really brilliant. Now look after that bottom - no more shocks and only minimal bumps, save the big bump for the Massive Fat Pregnancy you're heading into!

Mini how wonderful to have seen the heartbeat already! Especially if they're still fussing with your levels. I found it really gave me hope every time I envisaged it pumping away, so full of life, every time I had a wobble.

Frosticle yay to your perfect transfer and powerhouse attitude! May the 2WW fly by.

Cat hang in there, you don't have to have symptoms, but the digital tests can show you increasing levels of hCG up to 5 wks plus if you want a bit of reassurance!

Sasha sounds like you're doing really well! Good luck tomorrow!

Loving the outbreak of good news on this thread!

pocket yeh great news.
mo and mini so very pleased how fantastic to see those strong thriving heart beats.
frosticle relax, distraction not too much mentalling. So pleased it went well at you got your piccy.
sasha hope all goes well today
highlove so sorry for bfn it is so hard, nothing takes the pain away, time, doing things you both enjoy and were not doing before can be helpful to enable a little bit or regrouping. Remember there is no right way to behave and do what helps and feels right to you and sod the rest (( hugs))

Thanks for all your support. She has insurance so has gone privately so she can see a surgeon we like good news is that she is getting an extra chemo drug that she would not have got on the NHS so fingers crossed it does its magic.

Waves to everyone else and sorry those I have it name checked

Thanks again lovely virtual friends - feeling more positive by the day. Long way to go but facing forward.

Frosticle how is your 2ww passing. Mentalling much? Fwiw my advice is not to bother symptom spotting, you'll go crazy and it's not even indicative. Are you at home or work? Whatever you're up to rest whenever you can - daytime channel 5 cheesy movies was a good distraction for me. And do the zita west meditation - it does help. x

Sasha good luck today. I've always been socks off - tricky during the summer when wearing bare feet and slightly stinky ballet pumps!

Welcome Highlove. AC is a tough journey, weve coped by sheer determination, hope and the support of the wonderful ladies on this thread. Good luck to you and hope you get your BFP soon.

Cat some women have no symptoms at all - you might be lucky enough to have NO morning sickness for your pregnancy! Sending you a reassuring hug.

Bugsy that's positive news on the surgeon and treatment. I know it's hard but try and take some time out for yourself too. You're a little star so be kind to yourself. xxx

AFM still having a bit of spotting, but I'm trying to ignore it, bloods again next Monday. If it gets worrisome before then I'll go back to clinic. Has anyone tried the zita west pregnancy meditation? I am really loving it!

Hello to everyone I haven't mentioned.

Dont stop believing

Grr gave up last night after my phone lost the second half of my post TWICE (the perils of mumsnetting on trains). 3rd time lucky!

Ginger great news that your killer cells are behaving. Other things to ask about in relation to repeat implantation failure/miscarriage seem to be blood clotting problems, thyroid issues and chlamydia. Good luck for your meeting!

Highlove welcome to the thread and sorry you've had such an awful time. From what I could tell you tested at 12 dpo, is that right? Would it still be worth continuing with the drugs till official test day despite the bleeding? I hope your clinic has been advising you, and i would second the advice that if your BFN is confirmed, you should ask them what they plan to do to improve your chances next time and if you're not satisfied, change. And most importantly, look after yourself, it's a horrible tough journey.

Sacha good luck today. I'm socks on, definitely, until I get rid of the remnants of my summer holiday nailvarnish...

Pocket hope that spotting stops soon and leaves you in peace. Facing forwards is definitely the way to be. I'm using the ZW pregnancy meditation too when I get time, it's very good.

AFM, we spent monday morning on cloud 9 after seeing Pip's heartbeat and monday afternoon in stress hell trying to get the post office to give back a packet of drugs that they'd tried to deliver when we were at the hospital - oh the irony - and when 'computer said no' , pursuading the hospital to write an emergency prescription for me as I'd run out of some key things. Gnnnnnn... this is the downside of being at an overseas clinic. We've been told to treat the pregnancy according to Pip's stage not my actual number of weeks, which means another 2 weeks of all the drugs since it's measuring 2 weeks behind. So yesterday I asked my lovely GP if they would prescrible everything and they agreed! Hurray! That's saved me about £200 and loads of extra stress. The clinic have suggested that sometimes embryos detatch and re-implant somewhere else, causing a delay in an otherwise healthy embryo, and that this might have happened this time. Clearly Pip already has a mind of his/her own...

Hi ladies

Egg collection today. Procedure was really simple. We got 6 eggs lets hope they are getting jiggy with DH's little fellas as I type!

Looks like it's mostly good news.

Highlove thinking of you.

Cx

Ginger sorry i dont think I repsonded to your immunes question. I had mini immunes tested after my mc and a minor clotting thing showed up - for which I'm now on clexane jabs. I'm also taking prednisolone which suppresses my immune system as sometimes the body doesn't take too kindly to our little embryos . My clinic gave me this from day one - without testing - I think it's fairly common. Sorry but other than that I don't know too much about immunes (there's a great thread on ff which I will find and post for you) X

Mo well Pip is certainly keen to show who's boss! Planning the meds is a stress (been there done that) but what a result that your gp will prescribe. And how fab to save that cash! Well done you!

Sasha well done for today. Put your feet up for now and keep us posted.

ginger re immunes, ARGC test cytokines as well. No idea really what they do except secrete tumour necrosing factor and if ratio of good to bad ones is off this can cause issues. That being said, lots of places disagree on the research on this.

Thanks ladies for the advice re immunes, I shall mention those ones anyway, and see what else the consultant says.

Mini absolutely fab news re your scan and seeing the heartbeat! So chuffed for you. It must be amazing! [hsmile]

Welcome to Highlove and I am also really sorry to hear of your experiences. I too have recently had a miscarriage and know how utterly heartbreaking it is. We are all here for virtual hugs and hand holding though, and these ladies are lovely for keeping the spirits up.. a very positive bunch! [hgrin]

Frostie great news about your little grade double A embie, go go go!! Sending you sticky vibes.

Sahsa good to hear your EC went well, do you know when ET is? All the best of luck for it!

Bugsy sending lots of hugs and support for what you are going through, but good to hear there is some positive news with the surgeon and new chemo drug. Take care of yourself sweetie.

Mo that is great that your GP is prescribing you the rest of the drugs, one less thing to worry about ey! Pip is certainly keeping you on your toes, but is clearly a fighter!

Waves to everyone else I have not mentioned.
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Mini - "evil google gremlins" !!! That's so funny! You know how it is.

Bugsy - so pleased to hear the news about the chemo drug.

Pocket- thank you for the advice. It's good to be reminded. I'm doing my best and fortunately I work full time so I only spend ooh, about half the day thinking about it! I hope your bleeding stops soon.

Sasha big congratulations and well done on a nice haul of eggs. How did fertilisation go, honey?

Mo - fab news re Pip and indeed your powers of persuasion with your GP. Pip's just doing his/her own thing, in his/her own time. Love it!!

Ginger aaahh, thanks for the sticky vibes! I'm going to hang on to those. Along with all the brazil nuts I've been eating, they will surely do the trick!! Sorry I can't help re immunes - I don't have any knowledge there. Good luck with your consultant, I hope it all goes well.

My DP has flown out to the US today and is not back until the evening of OTD but at least he'll be back the same day, even if he's over the Atlantic when I get the result.

Hello to everyone I've missed. Happy weekend, everyone!!

xxx

Afternoon ladies

Just a quick post. All six eggs were mature and all six fertilised via ICSI. I have an appointment in the morning for possible transplant if not tomorrow it'll be Monday. Then I'll be joining you Frosticle on the two week wait!

Xxxx

Sasha - fantastic to have all six still with you!! Well done!! Best of luck for a smooth and successful ET. I'll keep the bench warm for you and look forward to having your company as we fight the urge to consult Mr Google and POAS!!

That's great news Sasha! My wait is almost up, tomorrow is OTD but I am not sure i want to give me seat up!!! I figure if I don't test I don't need to deal with bad news! Have been feeling bit sick today wondered if it might be 'morning' sickness however I suspect it's nerves! Hoping all the positive news that has been going on recently is going to continue! Have a feeling it is going to be a long night tho. When is 1st wee of the morning if u are up and down all night? X

Great news Sasha.

Thinking of Beginning and Frosticle on the bench

Beginning everything crossed for you tmw. Will be waiting for your update.

Dont stop believing

good luck beginning for testing tomorrow. In terms of first wee, you'd want at least 3-4 hours between so if you do get up in the night try and have a stretch between wee's

sasha great news on your embies and good luck with ET.

Got my call with today's instructions and they want me back on Sunday for repeat bloods - more than 48 hours clinic free would be lovely, but at least its 9am on a Sunday and not 7:30!

Happy Friday everyone and have a lovely weekend.

[beginning] oh it is so hard isn't it. Good vibes we will all be thinking of you hand holding and hoping and wishing you the best, yeh to nausea.

[pocket] hope all is settling, here is to an easy relaxing weekend.

[sasha] well done embies how many are you going for so exciting dusting off the bench for you plumping up the cushions and hot drink as per request.

[frosticle] ahh to DP being away relax on the bench and distract.

[ginger] I have still not done immunes! I know I have only been saying it for 10 months but protein s now back to normal proves you need a 3 month gap from all the meds etc. MTHFR is def abnormal but cons says not to worry about it but also admits ore will be known in 5 yrs which unfortunately I do it have. Just need to persuade DH to so another sample.