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Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 10

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MoJangled · 13/06/2012 14:23

Our new home, hope you all find me soon...

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Beginningofthejourney · 18/10/2012 18:24

Had EC today got 15 egg! Which is more than my doctor thought this morning, spent this afternoon sleeping and imagining my eggs doing their thing! If all goes well I'll be back for ET on Tuesday! Joys of pessaries start tonight! Thanks for everyone's support so far x

MiniH · 18/10/2012 18:44

sunny yay on sending the forms. Fwiw, they sent us a letter with a date when we were on holiday so emailed them and they brought it forward a week. Also heard another lady phoned and asked if were any cancellations and got seen pretty quickly so fingers crossed. I'm in again tomorrow for bloods as they like to do them daily at first then every 48hrs if looks all ok. I can give you a breakdown of our costs if that would be remotely useful in your financial discussions.

beginning yay! 15 is fab. Fx they fertilise perfectly over night.

thecat anymore testing yet??

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TheCatSofa · 18/10/2012 19:36

No more testing for me til tomorrow. I'm off to a gig, let's hope the kittens don't mind a little dancing..
Sorry for not replying to everyone personally but thanks for all the advice and positivity! Have a good night everyone x

Pocket1 · 18/10/2012 21:06

Woo hoo, great news Cat I?m so thrilled for you. And get you gigging, what a very cool mum you?re going to be!

Mini how are you feeling now. Hope you have a pain free night tonight. If not, hopefully the clinic can advise when you?re there Friday.

Mo sounds like you?ve done well organising all your meds ? very impressive as that cant be that easy with your clinic overseas. Well done. Rest, look after yourself and let Mini Mo grow and grow! x

Beginning wow you did well today. Hope you?re being pampered at home now.

Sunny its great that you have some options ? I totally understand the money thing. We?ve racked up so much on credit cards and just about keeping on top of it thanks to interest free credit. It is just so crazy how much this actually costs isn?t it?

Frosticle, how are you?

Yay Scrummy lovely to hear from you, how are you getting on?

Waves to Ginger, Badger, Bugsy, Hoops and anyone I may have missed.

Thanks for all your messages and positive vibes ? not mentalling too much?. Yet!?! I?ve got a progesterone blood test tomorrow to check my levels (seriously hope these prontagest jabs in the backside are doing the job, if not, gulp, I may have to use my old friend cylogest as well!!!).

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TheCatSofa · 19/10/2012 09:44

That's a great haul beginning! Well done you!

sunny lots of options for you, really hope the best one reveals itself to you and the money thing isn't stressing you out.

pocket good luck with your tests today.

Well I did another test and it's definitely a BFP!! Amazing!

Pocket1 · 19/10/2012 10:28

Cat brilliant brilliant news. Hope this puts your mind at rest a bit!!!

Blood test done. Also found out we have one frostie Grin.

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Beginningofthejourney · 19/10/2012 10:32

Just had a call to say 10 eggs are doing well this morning so all going in the right directions.
Great news cat! Hope you enjoyed the gig last night :-)

BadgerFace · 19/10/2012 10:55

Look at all this believing and the latest news - BFP for Cat - wooooo hoooooo!!

Fab haul for Beginnings!

Pocket's got two on board AND one for the freezer!

Mo I hope Mini-Mo is hanging on in there.

Sunny good to hear you've got options. It doens't necessarily make it any easier to decide which road to go down I know, but it's definitely a positive thing.

Happy weekend to one and all.

Pocket1 · 19/10/2012 17:08

Need some advice.... I'm already stressing about the wait between next Fridays clinic pregnancy blood test and the result - a painful 3/4 hours.

I'm thinking of poas - poss as well or instead. What do you think? How long do the results take? And any recommends for brilliant sticks on which to pee?

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MiniH · 19/10/2012 18:15

pocket I would personaly poas as well either same morning or day before but that's just because I didn't want to hear from call only, and as Dh wouldn't be there when called wanted him to 'be' there when got hpt results. I used first response. Think result times vary by lab as was about two hours for me. Yay on your frostie.

thecat woohoo! !!

beginning yay!

Afm levels are fine. Not doubled in 48 hrs but 83% which apparently is just fine as doubling is not exact requirement. Had intralipids today as natural killer cells tinybit raised but meant got to ask Dr about bloating. He said panadol was fine and can also switch to front door for cyclogest at night which might help. Wishing myself a restful night!!

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gingernutdreams · 19/10/2012 18:57

Mo you really do have the measure of me, I would feel guilty taking any more time off at the moment. Although I do feel I need a break, we are short staffed and it is our busiest time of year and I really wouldn't want to lumber anyone else with the workload I have just had to deal with. Luckily, my boss is back on Mon, so some of the pressure should ease, as I can hand back the responsiblity to him. You will be glad to hear that I have booked a back, neck and shoulder massage for this Sun and my DH has given me instructions to get my hair done this weekend too, and maybe to do some gentle exercise like swimming to release some endorphins. I am also going to start writing a list of questions for our consultant at the clinic for our upcoming review appointment, to get the ball rolling re immunes.

I hope the extra intralipids and steroids are doing the trick for you. When will you find out more? I am still believing on your behalf.

TheCat I hope today's test went well and confirmed your BFP, keeping those fingers and toes crossed for you.

Mini I hope that OHSS goes away really soon, keep on with those fluids and protein.

My AF arrived yesterday, and I must say it hit me like a tonne of bricks. I know now that I can reset and start to put that all behind me, but both physically and mentally it made me feel rubbish. I am feeling much better now, and looking forward to a relaxing weekend. I am out for a friend's birthday tomorrow night, but plan on taking it quite easy and not staying out till all hours. I need a good few nights sleep.

Hello to everyone I have not mentioned, and happy weekends to you all!

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gingernutdreams · 19/10/2012 19:11

Oops, crossed post. I'm sure they weren't all there when I looked before posting!

Yey TheCat, so so pleased for you!

Fab news Beginnings re your 10 eggs doing so well! Fingers crossed for you and your little uns.

Great news about the frostie Pocket, and I would also recommend a poas test too. I had to do a second, digital test for mine as could not believe the really faint line. I used Clearblue.

Mini your levels sound good. Hope the intraplipids help, and the panadol helps with the bloating/pain.

Sunny decisions, decisions hey? Good that you have the choice though, makes you feel more in control? I hope you find the best clinic for you and that this is the road to success for you.

Frosticle · 19/10/2012 23:49

Pocket - everything crossed for you and your two!

Congratulations to Mini and Cat - whoop, whoop!! Fantastic news!! Mini, I hope you're feeling better.

Beginning - good luck for a smooth and successful ET on Tuesday.

Sunnyg - The financial side of it is a huge consideration. I'm sure however you will make the right decision for you.

Mo - fingers crossed little pip is snug and warm and growing nicely.

ginger - sounds like you have a lovely pampering session planned and I hope it both relaxes you and lifts the spirits.

Waves to teds, Bugsy, Badger and anyone I've missed!

At my scan on Wed the lining wasn't quite thick enough (7.2mm) so I was given patches and went back for a scan today. Lining was 9.3mm so I'm good to go! Donor EC is on Tuesday, with ET on the following Friday or Sunday. It's actually happening but it all feels a bit surreal!

Beginningofthejourney · 21/10/2012 08:52

Down day yesterday as I thought my eggs were not doing so well and the clinic wanted to put them back today but just had a call to say 9 of them are all doing better and will hopefully still go to blasts and go back on tues or weds! Feeling more positive again! X

gingernutdreams · 21/10/2012 16:24

Thanks Frostie, the massage was lovely and certainly helped me to relax. I feel like I could sleep for a week now! Good news re your lining, wishing you all the best with your ET and hope donor EC goes well.

Glad you are feeling more positive now Beginning, 9 embies doing well is great! Hope you do get to blasts and have some spare for freezing. Smile

sunnyg · 22/10/2012 12:54

ginger I am so glad you've had the massage and feel relaxed. I know what you mean about when AF arrives. It also hit me like a ton of bricks. The only consolation I can offer you is that it's quite a good sign that it returned quite quickly, I know it can take quite a while for some people. So this also means hopefully that your cycle will return as normal. It is also kind of like pressing the 'reset' button, which I found felt good, but at the same time quite sad, that it really was all over. I think making a list of questions for your follow-up is a really good move in the right direction.

beginning good to hear you are feeling more posative. Fingers crossed for blasto!

frostie good luck to you and your donor for EC and ET. It's such a rollercoaster this journey isn't it.

mini how's the bloating? I hope you are feeling better.

pocket how's the bench? Not long now. I also used a digital test. I think clear blue and first response as well. I have heard that for non-digital tests the ones with the red lines are better than the blue, as they can often look quite grey if faint, which of course puts doubt into one's mind. Maybe get a digital and a non-digital?

MoJangled · 22/10/2012 13:30

Pocklet ahh the To POAS or Not To POAS question! I would incline towards PAOS - the times I haven't, I haven't enjoyed not being in control of how the news breaks or having any warning. Obviously not such an issue if it's a BFP (and it will be!) but for me the times I haven't tested ahead have been bad news. I remember feeling quite optimistic and not testing for our January cycle; the call came through when I was in the car so I pulled over to take it, and after a while wondered what that strange wailing noise was and why passers by were looking anxious - it was me! Even if an early test isn't conclusive it will give you some indication of the way things are going, especially if you use a digital one. But it will be a BFP! And hurrah for having a frostie too!

beginnings that's terrific, 9 embies all going down to the wire! well done you!

Sunny congratulations on getting the ball rolling. Think you're right to be open to the NHS process and also pursue the rolls royce through ARGC - how I wish we'd done that years ago! Does it feel good to be grasping the nettle again?

Ginger well done on getting some Ginger-time and having that massage! More looking after yourself coming your way, I hope.

Frosticle good luck for your donor EC tomorrow, and hoping for lots of healthy eggs and a welcoming lining for them to sink into...

Mini and Cat , how are things going? Is the news sinking in?

I finally managed to get a scan booked with the EPU for next Monday, when I'll in theory be 9 wks. Navigating the transition from private back to NHS was less than easy. And they're going to do a transabdominal scan rather than the dildocam, which I think is less sensitive so I'm already worrying that it's be inconclusive about whether Pip is still there, if it's still small for dates. Finding it hard to stay positive all in all, as this is stretching on and on and for all I know there's no baby there anymore. Still, I'm doing lots of visualisation and am rattling/oozing with meds. Question for people on progesterone injections: do they make your heart race? I'm very aware of a raised metabolism and pumping pulse, and was hoping this was a good pregnancy sign, but perhaps it's another drug thing.

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sunnyg · 22/10/2012 18:20

mo sorry to hear you've had such a hard time getting your scan booked in with the NHS. It's the last thing you need, more hassle. I'm also suprised they won't do a dildocam scan as I know it can show up much more detail, especially important for you. I've heard from the other ladies there are specific baby scan places that have very advanced scanning equipment. I know it's another extra cost, but is that potentially a consideration? I can't imagine how hard it is to stay positive at this stage, but I've still got everything crossed for you. Keeping going with the visualisation, do you have the Zita CD? I found it pretty good actually. Sorry I can't help you with the progesterone injections, only every had the pessaries.

Cat are you still testing up a storm? When is your first scan?

AFM meeting at bank re potential remortgage for diving that Rolls Royce (love it mo) down the ARGC lane was a complete waste of time. Both DH and I took time off work to got to appointment, which was 30 mins late, then we were rushed out of there in 15 mins, and didn't learn anything that we don't already know. So someone is going to ring us by the end of the week, maybe, you know how it goes with these banks. Really crap service. Anyway we'll preserve, otherwise I'm not sure we can even start the Rolls up.

TheCatSofa · 22/10/2012 21:21

Aaaah stupid phone just lost looong reply..

mo glad u have scan booked. Keep positive and looking after yourself!

ginger so glad your massage did the trick

sunny bloody bastard banks. They are meant to help us! grrrr.

pocket how's the bench? How much longer to wait?

I am still kind of unbelieving of my BFP.. Bit worried that all the symptoms I had have now disappeared.. Trying to stay positive and all that but it's tough. Have got appt with gp on Thursday maybe can convince her to give me a blood test or something to assuage my fears? Would that even work?? Am also feeling a bit clueless as my ivf clinic have been less than generous with info but I guess that's just cos it's too early? Eating literally everything I see to deal with fears. Curry, olives, grapes, shortbread - feel a bit sick now... ;)

Hi to everyone else, hope all good, stupid phone list mega reply and now getting off train xx

Pocket1 · 22/10/2012 21:46

Mo great news about your scan and negotiating your Nhs scan. I'm sure that scan will show Mini Mo is a fighter and growing strong. I use the progesterone jabs and have never noticed my heart racing...so hopefully you're spot on that it's a pregnancy thing and not just a meds thing!

Mini how is your poor bloated tummy?

Ginger glad you're feeling less stressed post massage. And hopefully even more now your boss is back!

Frosticle great news that the patches worked - are you on evorel? I'm in those as well as progynova. Hope all went well today with donor ec.

Beginning best of luck for et tmw. I'm fluffing up the cushions on the 2ww bench in readiness.

Waves to Sunny and Bugsy and anyone I've missed.

2ww going okay. Really trying to stay positive but it's just so hard. Thanks for all the poas advice, DP and I dont agree - I would do it as want to know ASAP. He's worried that if we get a false negative on the stick then a positive at the clinic, the interim stress would be awful for the embies. What do you clever sages think?

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BadgerFace · 23/10/2012 08:50

Morning all.

Cat Don't worry about symptoms seeming to disappear - that is entirely normal. The same thing happened to me (and I have had so far a pretty symptom free pregnancy, so you might be one of the lucky ones too!) and if you read the pregnancy board it's a pretty common thing to happen - there's at least a thread a week about it!

Mo Good to hear you've got a scan sorted. And I'm sure that if they have trouble finding Mini-Mo then they will swap from transabdominal to dildocam to have a look so try not to worry. Although I'd be ready (or have your DH ready!) to ask for one if they don't look like they're going to offer. But my experiences of NHS scans so far is that they want to see these things too so will help where they can!

Pocket I think it depends how you think you would handle a potential negative. If you think you will remain positive and hopeful that you just tested too early then I'd POAS but I can see your DP's point if a negative would more likely stress you out. I personally would probably do it!

Beginnings Good luck with ET today and get out your cushions for the 2ww bench!

Hello to everyone else!

MiniH · 23/10/2012 09:52

Ginger in some ways I am glad for you that your AF arrived. I know it truly heralds the end but at least it means your body is trying to get back to itself and hopefully your other symptoms will disappear. I hope your weekend was relaxing and you had a good night out.

Frosticle hope your lining has thickened up beautifully.

Mo in terms of symptoms from progesterone, no, I didn't get heart racing. I was on gestone and cyclogest combo for 8 days and now just cyclogest (but progesterone is over 1,200 so v high) and i've had no heart racing symptoms with it. Got everything crossed for the scan. You've done a great job of staying positive and with all your visualisations you truly are doing everything you can for mini-mo.

Sunny that's such a shame about the bank manager. really hope they come back with the right answer. Will get back to you properly later as well re costs - sorry.

thecat I wouldn't worry too much about symptoms disappearing. To be honest, i've had very few and those I have had have gone. In terms of blood tests, it would give you an indication of what your level is then, but from what I understand its about the levels rising that matters, so you'd need at least two or three to know that they are continuing rising (that's why ARGC do daily tests for first few days and then every two days). If you can get them to agree to do a few tests then will give you some comfort about levels rising properly. I am honestly in two minds about it now though, as in some ways it is reassuring to know my levels have gone up, but then you still worry between the tests and I wonder whether I would worry less if I knew there was no way of knowing, if that makes sense.

pocket that's tough on testing. I would use FMU as concentration is higher therefore less likely to be a false negative and I would test no sooner than one day early or on the day itself. You are going to be stressed on test date no matter what so personally having been sat with ladies who are waiting for clinic to call with result and seeing how stressed they are staring at their phone wiling it to ring, it would seem to me that the potential stress from a false negative is lower than that, but that's just me.

AFM, levels didn't go up as quickly as I'd have liked on weekend but were back on track yesterday so hoping they continue in that fashion from here on in. The bloating, thankfully, has also gone now. It truly was horrible last week but I think the OHSS has worn off and also few changes like eating less at night, and changing way I take cyclogest has really helped.

waves to everyone else. xx

Beginningofthejourney · 23/10/2012 10:45

Thanks for everyone's best wishes, feeling more nervous today than I have at any other point, feels like everyone else has done there part and now it is just down to me and my body! Will be taking up my place on the bench later this afternoon :-)
Good luck everyone! X

Frosticle · 23/10/2012 12:36

Beginning - best of luck for ET today - gosh, how terribly exciting!! I hope it all goes smoothly. Keep a space on the bench for me, I'll (hopefully) be joining you soon!

Ginger - glad the massage helped you to feel more relaxed. Take good care of you.

Mini -hoorah for having got rid of the bloating and being back on track!!

Pocket -Me? I would POAS. No question. I'm on Estraderm patches, progynova and now cyclogest. When is your 2ww up? Not long now, I think.

Sunny - So sorry about the bank. Hopefully the phone call will be more productive and the fact that they've messed you around might just make them more amenable. Like Mo, I wish I'd gone for the Rolls-Royce years ago. Maybe it's worth taking a bit more time to get the money together whilst following up what you can with the NHS?

Mo -"dildoscan"!! I haven't heard that before and I couldn't stop giggling! Everything crossed for you and Pip for Monday.

Cat - oh the frustration when a long and carefully crafted message vanishes! Don't worry about your symptoms disappearing -I don't think you can read anything into it at all.

AFM, donor EC today so I'm just waiting for a call later to tell me how it's all gone. Felt very odd this morning when DP went off to do his bit, knowing it was all going on and yet not to be involved. The really great thing is that DP, who wasn't at all keen on all this, is actually excited! That makes me very happy.

Hoophopes · 23/10/2012 14:02

Mo - you have done well to get an early scan on NHS, but you will probably find they will do usual scan first and then transfer to internal if they can't get a good image. Just to warn you NHS machines lack the quality of some private clinics but they still get all the information! I had a 9 weekish scan and it was purely to confirm I was pregnant and to prescribe me clexane. All tests etc were done at 12 weeks for dating etc.

CAT you may find gp's just believe you are pregnant = mine wouldn't do blood tests (said pregnancy tests were reliable), they just told me to book in to see midwife at 8 weeks. Hardest thing for me was from going from private care where they intervene lots (at a cost - or ivf nhs clinic where they still do lots to get you pregnant) to being a normal pregnant woman and having to wait weeks inbetween NHS appointments! But as I was told, there is nothing they can do until baby is 12 weeks and after that viable etc. Took me ages to accept that and enjoy being a normal healthy pregnant woman!! x

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