Easter bunnies and chocolate eggs! Jump aboard for the ladies hoping the Easter Bunny will bring a very special egg.

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Well the witch has caught up with me at last. So I have decided its time to start a new thread as I think our christmas reindeer need a rest.
So step aboard ladies and join me for a hunt for the golden egg.

Sympathy dilly - DD is just the same..... Or if she is in a good mood, she's haring off all over the shop so that I have to spend all my time supervising her instead of having a look at things. Online shopping is the way forward - except if you want to return something - cue long wait at the post office........ Click and collect from John Lewis is pretty good though. I can browse and pay online, collect it from the store and try it on then and there or a few days later, and then take it back to the store for a refund.

CD23 here and I think I may have finally ov'd yesterday. I didn't bother with temps over the weekend (lots of drinking and some VERY late nights as my show came to an end) but yesterday's was still very low. Today's was higher (although not high by any means) and I haven't had any EWCM so far today. It's been a deeply weird cycle - I could absolutely have sworn I was ov'ing on CD14 - I had spotting and pain and everything - but my temps have stayed low. I'll try not to be disappointed if we're not successful this month - there's been so much going on.

Ah Treats the click and collect sounds good, hadn't thought of that.
I used to order quite a bit From Next but havent used them for ages, really not keen on any of their stuff at the moment, it's just... bleurgh!
Does sound like a strange one for you this month with the spotting etc. earlier on in your cycle.

My AF is due tomorrow. I am hoping she won't arrive but feeling like she will :(

Ah dilly my DS is exactly the same. It's really stressful! Even worse when all the other kids seem happy as larry in pushchairs and you're carting a screaming, hair pulling, angry pint sized person. Hope today is a better day.

Seems like a few of us are ovulating similar times....

Oh for heavens sake. Opks now showing no line at all. Temp fell loads this morning. And EWCM shown up again.
Fed up now. Can't be bothered to SWI anymore.

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Ah Pipbin- sending hugs your way.

Crazy- glad you got a peak and dp was eager to get jiggy with it!

Regarding potty training- ds didn't like the potty but I got him a little step and one of those padded seats that you pop over the toilet and he was more then happy to use that. That said, only for a number one. For a number two, he liked to poop in his pants because it felt (shudder) 'warm and nice'. He use to sneak off behind arm of sofa which was a give away. That habit took ages to break and in the end I was buying cheapo pants from Primarc and chucking them out if he pooped in them as it worked ou t cheaper than nappies!

Nothing to report here, day 27, still holding out on testing. Less stressed as distracted by work but keep feeling the urge to test... the thought of getting a negative is stopping me. Don't think this is my month at all as skin is a giant grease pit but you never know...

AF expected tomorrow. Think she will be paying me a visit as tummy feels sore and bloated. Crap :(
However, I have got myself a bottle of wine in and will have a large glass tomorrow night if when she shows!

Sorry pip wrote really long post which mn promptly lost! Basically it looks pre ov to be what so you think? The ewcm issue is confusing I agree. Have you done another opk yet? Try not to lose heart.

Oh Dilly! That's rubbish, you never know though, af symptoms Sooo like pregnancy it's just cruel. I think you've done unbelievably well to get this far&not test. Sending giant hugs. Does af normally arrive in the morning (only asking as mine usually does).

Hi everyone else!

Thanks Silent I have been using conceive plus this week and I wonder if that has made a difference to my EWCM. I'm fairly sure I'm going to OV in the next day or so. The thing is that I normally fade in then out on OPKs and post ov OPKs have no line on at all. And right now I'm getting no line.
I just wish there was a magic way of telling what was going on for sure.

Pipbin- I'm not on commission for them (honest), but cbfm makes it clear so may be worth the investment if it takes away some of the stress for you? Sending you a

Tierd, hungry&spotty here so expecting af soon

I'm just so glad that I am temping and not just relying on OPKs. If I was then I might have taken the 'nearly dark enough to be positive' as a me having missed the surge and stopped SWIing.

I'm reluctant to get the CBFM as I always swore I wouldn't be one of those women who does stuff like that.
I'm going to give it another couple of cycles and then see about it.

No AF yet. She used to arrive in the am but this is only 2nd cycle since mc so who knows!? Got dull ache and bloated tummy so won't be long I think :( if by some miracle she doesn't arrive I think I'll wait til Saturday to test to allow her a few more days!

Feel really down about ttc. I stopped the pill last July/Aug and its really disheartening :( don't think I'm over the mc yet but just want to conceive again so badly so I've got something good to focus on.

Sorry for waffling. Hope everyone else is ok?

wiggy your story of your DS disappearing behind the sofa made me laugh. They're such funny little things.

dilly sorry to hear you're feeling a bit down. I can totally relate to how you feel. I've got early August in my mind by where I'm desperate to get pg by as that would have been the time I should have had DC2 had it not been for the chemical pregnancy. Nothing is happening though and it's frustrating as hell. I know it must be worse for you being that much further along. The chances are though that you will get pg and your lovely baby will help take away a bit of the horribleness of your mc. Hugs to you.

I'm all in a muddle after yesterday as read the instructions again as bit confused as to why my readings went from low to peak. It says you need to use the same lot of sticks but I started a new batch yest so not sure now how accurate it will be after all. EWCM is missing in action as usual so .

Hi to everyone else

Pip - had a look at your chart and don't think you've ov'd yet. As for the returning Ewcm - could it be residual semen? I find it hard to tell the difference, especially when using something like conceive plus or preseed.

I second the cbfm. I know, I hesitated too but I am finding it really interesting especially since my temps seem weird lately. I plugged my temp in this morning and ff says I ov'd on cd14, making me 3dpo but just had a peak reading on cd15 & cd16. I'm glad we kept on DTD, I might've let it slide if I was just temping.

Dilly sorry about your shop :( I know what you mean about wanting another so badly. Are we mad sorry you're feeling down as well :( it's so hard when the months seem to be flying by. I can't believe it's been 5 months since we started, I have no idea where it's gone.

Crazy I can't imagine there's that much difference from pack to pack. Did you google low to peak? I would just keep swi! Good luck!

Well we've just finished shag week - ov'd yesterday. We managed to swi more this cycle than pretty much any other so fingers crossed. We just DTD three nights in a row - I don't remember when the last time we did that was! But, possible consequence? I have some spotting today and I wonder if it's an irritated cervix or something? Thoughts?

In other news, DS has the chicken pox :( had to stay home with him today. But he seems to be taking it well so far but spots just appeared today.

Oh dear last box! How old is he? My one year old got it in jan and we ended up on hospital as she is just not very good with temps. Do hope he gets better soon.

My four currently have slapped cheek but getting better which is a relief as work is a bit busy this week. I've been driving a five hour round trip to head office mon and tues so really couldn't face swi last night which typically was ov dayas temp rose
This am. Still, did swi sun and mon so hopefully still in with a chance? What do you all think?

Hello,

Just stopping by to see how everyone is... time to pass cups of all round, I think. And this evening (I'm missing that! ).

Good luck to all those SWI. Thinking of you.

Wiggy and Dilly, hope your AF stays away.

lastbox hope your DS is better soon, it is such a pain having to keep them away from other children.

Not much happening here, still doesn't feel real.

Mammoth I thought the most fertile day was the one before OV - so yes, still a good chance. That slapped cheek thing is horrid too. 5 hour round trip sounds exhausting!

Are you feeling ok though lll?

Pipbin- 'one of those type of women'. I'm curious, what type is that?

Dilly- we can be Saturday test buddies if no sign of af but, like you, I feel it's imminent. Cant'. Stop. Eating. Junk.

Crazy- why don't you ring the helpline and ask? I've not rang but heard on here that they're great. My friend was confused as to why it didn't ask her to test one day when she was sure it would so she used another (none machine based) opk and got a negative.

Lastbox- oh no about DS! I suppose they say it's best to have it young. I don't know much about when it happens but I gather from MN that some people get a bit of implantation spotting? Sounds pretty exciting

Silent- if you dtd Monday hopefully you'll still be the race this month as I gather best time is 48 hours before ovulation? Also, sorry to hear you have poorly children too

Lime- hello my dear, lovely to still have you hear to offer and sympathy.

I'm off to eat some more to feed my insatiable pre af hunger.

Thanks guys - he's nearly three and everyone around us has had it lately so no surprise really. He still running around like a mad thing - had a fever yesterday but it seems to have leveled off. I think I'm having sympathy itchiness but I've already had it so no worries here.

LIme lovely to see you! How are you feeling? How many weeks now?

Silent DS was conceived from GOF morning of the day before I ov'd! Good luck!

Wigg thanks for excitement but implantation spotting is usually 7-10 dpo, I'm only 1dpo. Possibly ovulation spotting tho I don't think so. Hoping your AF stays away, fx!

5 weeks today... still haven't told anyone other than DH and aforementioned good friend. I am all too aware that things can easily go wrong at this stage, and I am enjoying just quietly thinking about it. I am a bit nervous about how people will react, too. I feel fine atm... plenty of time for that to change though.

at 'sympathy itchiness'... I've had that! Also I feel itchy when I see insects e.g. ants.

Wiggy I didn't mean to offend anyone.
Before I was TTCing I would see others who were TTCing and temping, DTD on demand etc and swore I would never be like that.
However, I now am like that because I'm temping, charting and peeing on all sorts of stuff.
I'm just cautious about spending more money on it I guess. And I don't want to to be any more all consuming than it is.

OPK getting darker again. Still managing to DTD last night but neither of our hearts were in it.

Argh! Wrote a long message and went to post it but flaming MN decided it was offline for an upgrade so it was lost

Take 2.

limeleaf lovely to see you. Thanks for the drinks! I'll have your share of the :).

wiggy thanks, did contemplate calling the helpline today but am bit scared they might say the machine, or even me, is duff as not a peep of cm. I will give them a call though. Did your machine ask you to do a test the day after you got a peak reading? I'm getting myself confused now as can't remember being asked to do this on previous months. I thought it was an automatic peak on the 2nd day. I am easily confused though. Hope the junk food is satisfying a craving! Know I've already said, but really hope AF stays away for you

lbot I know! I thought the same too but apparently you are not supposed to use different sticks from different boxes. The Faqs covers this and the low to peak issue. Will see what the nice helpline lady says tomorrow. Glad your DS is dealing with the pox ok. Bless him. Better to have it out of the way when they're young though I would imagine. Impressive DTD ing btw

silent sounds like you have a good chance to me! Hope your DC are ok too. Can't be easy to muli task unwell children, long commute and trying to make another little human. Kudos to you!

dilly any news from AF? Hope you're ok.

Waves to rest of the ladies.

Ps, lime meant to ask why you're nervous of telling people (presumably a bit later down the line). I hope you get positive reactions that your wonderful news deserves.

Hello everyone!

I have come down from my tree(!) to say hi.

Hope everyone is keeping sane. My evil Aunt Flo' arrived early which has bummed me out as my cycles are all over the place. But it has been great having a drink again...

I went to see the fertility clinic at the hospital yesterday. The Dr said we have to 'keep trying' until October before getting fertility treatment, even though they know I have something wrong with me (low estrogen). The Dr even said that in October they would give me estrogen therapy, so I wonder why they won't fix the problem now, as I am about to turn 35, when fertility is supposed to nosedive. I am feeling a bit cross...sorry for the rant.

But - I am excited as soon Mr S and I will be going abroad on holiday and I have a premonition that being away from it all will help us finally conceive. Have just ordered some Maca capsules to add to the vitamin arsenal as well...