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mid 30s, TTC #1, 2 years so far, fed up. anyone else?

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CaipirinhasAllRound · 13/01/2012 18:51

Just wondering how many of us there are in the same boat

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rumisyum · 31/08/2012 09:19

*talk about with friends... I'm off to a good start. Wink

CaipirinhasAllRound · 31/08/2012 20:36

Hi rum
No caipirinhas last night, just red wine. Ooh I do love a bit of dark rum!
X

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missbrightside · 31/08/2012 23:40

Welcome Rum

Tonight it's me that feels a bit tipsy. Also on red wine. Zita West - take your 'no drinking' advice and stick it up your a*

(Actually, tomorrow I'll probably feel depressed for having had three (small) glasses of wine for the first time in weeks ... !)

Hope you're all well xxx

CaipirinhasAllRound · 07/09/2012 14:52

Hi all,

It's gone very quiet, how is everyone?

We're slacking a bit on having as much sex as we had been. Think that knowing we've got our IVF appointment soon isn't helping

Oh well

Hen do again this weekend, bring on the cocktails!
Xx

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notnowImreading · 07/09/2012 18:21

Yay! Friday! At fucking last!

notnowImreading · 07/09/2012 18:27

Hi Caipirinhas - good to see/read you again. I'm back to work and struggling to stay awake after school at the moment. Have just come off AF and haven't told DH as I'm too tired to shag! I've got to phone up tomorrow to book first IVF appointment - have been putting it off and trying not to admit it for a few weeks but must get on with it. Really hate the thought of it all, to be honest. Still, worth it if it works. I'm seriously thinking it might be worth getting them to do double embryo transfer (skipping a few steps mentally) so we can have twins and not have to go through it all again Grin

I have a big old stack of marking I should have done over the summer to do this weekend and can feel that the weather is going to make it difficult. Enjoy the sunshine everyone.

missbrightside · 08/09/2012 10:06

Hello all

Hope you are all well.

Have been quiet as nothing all that exciting to share to be honest ! Just been keeping my head down at work (well, sort of !) trying to get everything up to date before our next cycle (given that I know my concentration levels will plumet to all time lows .... !)

Caipirinhas Have a great time at the hen do. Can't be long until your appointment - I'll keep my fingers crossed that the time doesn't drag ...... !

Not Now Yes, I've come to the same conclusion about a double transfer ... ! Anything to bring this nightmare to an end so we can actually move on with our lives ... !

Right - the sun is out - so must go and do something nice !

Enjoy the weekend.

xx

Hallloumi · 12/09/2012 18:04

Hello all,
Hope everyone ok. Have been glad to see that I'm not the only one who drinks for 1st week of cycle!
I have a seriousish question for those of you who have been through IVF before. (I know there's other sites but you all seem sensibleWink).
Am trying to work out how ivf cycle is going to work for me in terms of time off work, and would value your advice. I know it's a bit unpredictable and some things like hyperstimulation can't really be planned for but am trying to get an idea how it's going to be. I have a fairly tough job, work around 50hrs a week over 5 days at work + a bit more at home evenings/weekends. This includes some 12 hr days. Work itself is fulll on, often no breaks but do eat and drink while working. My consultant says stress hasn't been proven to make a difference but he thinks it does!
So wondered how people have felt during the different parts and if you could have/did work. Was your concentration affected? Do the hormones make you loopy? And did you take time off after ET?
Sorry to be a bit boring.
xx

missbrightside · 12/09/2012 22:24

Hello girls

Halloumi I also do a long working week in a stressful job (which includes commuting into central London) and I've always had a nagging feeling that my lifestyle (which I desperately want to change !) isn't particularly conducive to TTC. Then again, colleagues seem to fall pregnant ....... !

It was because of this that for our first cycle of IVF I took off from just before egg collection to the end of the 2WW as I didn't want to feel that this had jeopardised our chances. If you look at my post on 31 July I wrote out a rough timeline of how my time off went in terms of appointments etc (sorry - that comes across as a bit formal when written down - it's not meant to - I'm just feeling far too lazy to write it again Smile)

I was lucky in that our cycle went almost textbook perfectly and I had only the most minor of side effects during DR and stimming (well, perfectly other than the fact that it didn't bloody work !) I was fine to work up until egg collection (although my concentration levels weren't great - wouldn't say that was due to the drugs though - just a total disinterest in work). Only drug that didn't really agree with me was the progesterone post egg collection. I slept really badly all the time I was on it and it made me feel really low. I almost wished I'd been at work as at least I would have had to have put on a brave face rather than mope around at home on my own all day !

This cycle I haven't got the annual leave (or paid sick leave !) left to have the full 2 weeks off so will just have a week (beginning on the day of egg collection). My job is sedentary (I might think differently if I was on my feet all day or doing something active). As 'relaxing' for a week last time didn't help us I now don't feel so bad by just 'getting on with it'. After all, if I had got pregnant naturally I wouldn't even vaguely know about it at that stage ...... !

Anyhow, sorry, now I've written a long boring answer !

Hope everyone else is ok. Caiprihnas - Have you had your IVF appointment ? If so, hope it went well. Not Now - Have you made your appointment ? (sorry - that's a bit personal - you will do so when you are ready to) Hope that your stepdaughter has settled in.

Only excitement of the week was that had our IVF drugs delivered yesterday. It was a bloody big box last time - and now I'm having the extra immune treatment it was an even bigger box last time (I know it's mainly packaging but still !). I laid it all out on the living room floor last night and actually could have wept. Even though we've done it once before I still find it absolutely impossible to believe that it has come to this !!

Had accupuncture this evening. As I lay with a needle in my forehead I did wonder how this was going to help me ????

Right - this is now a really long post which I would have given up reading long ago. As I've felt run down recently (have I bored you with my whooping cough story - probably - I'll tell anyone who will listen) we have booked a last minute spa weekend in the New Forest. For something that is supposed to be relaxing it has actually been a very stressful experience in booking it !!!!!! It's ended up costing about the same as a trip round the world so I had better leave looking and feeling FANTASTIC !!!!

Take care all xxx

LesleyKnope · 12/09/2012 23:46

Hi!
How are you all?
Caprihinhas - how was the hen's do?
Hoping pugoff's good news starts a bloody avalanche of pregnancies for us all - wouldn't that be nice?
Not now & brightside - I really relate to that feeling of 'has it really come to this?!' and questioning whether I can/want to go ahead and try/continue to get pregnant this way. Sigh. I guess what spurs me on is I'm not ready to quit & the monthly merry go round of ttc naturally is hardly a fun, stress free experience any more either so worth trying something different.
Halloumi - time off & ivf is v personal choice. I took 2 days this last round - 1 day for collection & 1 day for transfer. I managed to fit in blood tests & scans before work. I think it's important you take the time you need to feel like you're giving it your best shot - but it's always a challenge to juggle with work commitments & sometimes it's good to be otherwise occupied, even if your mind's easily distracted by thoughts of ivf! Good luck & keep us posted on what you decide.
I was mentally prepared to start ivf #3 next month but we went to get a second opinion yesterday at a different clinic & he suggested I have a hysteroscopy & lap to be really sure there's nothing out of order on my insides, then take DHEA & growth hormone for 6 weeks before I start IVF & to try the flare protocol. This will mean more $ and delaying next round till after my trip home - now I'm totally confused what to do!!! Where's the lady with a crystal ball when you need it?
It's also complicated by the fact we moved house on Saturday & renovations are proving to be way more involved & expensive than I'd originally thought ( we're taken 2 weeks off work to work on our 'diamond in the rough' new home).
Pretty stressed out right now - couldn't I just have a little miracle now please?!?
Ps totally agree with f vita west attitude - months of not drinking has made me crazy and still infertile so sd it I'm back to the wine ;)

LesleyKnope · 12/09/2012 23:49

Ps brightside - what's you whooping cough story? Enjoy your spa weekend! Sounds like bliss!

missbrightside · 13/09/2012 08:52

Hello again (as you can see I am already not very work focused today. I'm off tomorrow so today is my Friday .... !)

Lesley Sorry you are having a stressful time at the moment. When is your trip home ? Something to look forward to.

It's a bit of a longshot (and probably completely irrelevant if you aren't in the UK) but hysterocopy's are covered by most private health policies (if you have one). When I read that ARGC do them quite frequently to assess the exact shape of the uterus before transfer I went on a bit of a frolic of my own and very almost tried to get myself referred for one (not having been told that I need one). Then I decided I really should calm down a bit ...... ! Enjoy the Wine. I wouldn't go on a big binge drink now - but I honestly don't think that the occassional wine or coffee makes the slightest bit of difference ........... !

Hope your move goes well. That's another thing we have totally ignored. Currently got two flats between us. What's the point of buying a 'family' home if it's just the two of us .......... !

The whooping cough story is very dull. I felt ill immediately after our last cycle failed (really really horrible cough/fluey) and put it down to the treatment. Because of that I didn't go to the doctors for about 6 weeks. Intially the doctor said it was a viral infection - but it was actually (mild) whooping cough. (There is a whooping cough epedemic at the moment so don't ignore any lingering coughs !!!!!) It's horrible - left me feeling really wiped out !!!!!

Enjoy the weekend everyone xxx

CaipirinhasAllRound · 14/09/2012 08:23

Hi everyone
Lesley hen do was good fun thanks, I'm bridesmaid next weekend
missbrightside our appointment is next Wednesday. I'm looking forward to it in a weird way as although I know chances are very slim etc, it still feels like we're doing something proactive. I'm guessing they'll just talk us through the best option, did they make any decisions and talk dates at your first appointment?

Other than that work's still boring me and I know I'm not working as hard as I could.

What's everyone up to this weekend? We're seeing loads of friends tomorrow and we're the only couple without kids - and all the kids will be there. Expecting lots of questions until they get bored and revert to talking about their offspring

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CaipirinhasAllRound · 14/09/2012 12:05

Had a call from the clinic after I wrote the above. As I'll be 35 in December I'm on the funding about to expire list and so they have now given us dates for semen analysis and a consent consultation where they go through drug taking, give me a base line scan and also do a trial embryo removal. That's beginning of Oct so the aim is that I do IVF during my Nov cycle

Have you made your other halves not drink in the run up to the semen analysis?

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missbrightside · 17/09/2012 13:17

Hello all

Caiphrinhas Hope you enjoyed your weekend. So glad that things are moving on quickly for you. Yes, my partner has significantly (and unbelievably without my nagging) reduced his drinking since we knew we were going for IVF. He's a bit 'all or nothing' so it's had to be nothing. Although he has been nagged (a lot) about his smoking .... ! In his defence he's tried various things this year with varying degress of success (patches, electric cigarettes etc) and has now reduced it down to about 3 cigarettes a day ......... !! That said despite having had, ahem, years of working hard to play hard it doesn't seem to have damaged his sperm in the slightest as three different peopled have commented on how good his SA is ......... !!! Shock

I've decided I'm sick of worrying about things. Just got to go with it. I start downregging injections tomorrow and had a full caffeine latte this morning. Zita West - Biscuit to you.

(Although you probably won't convince me to have one tomorrow ... I'm not that relaxed just yet !!!!)

Work is boring me too. I've now entered my 'total lack of concentration' phase which probably won't end until this next cycle is over ..... ! Oh, please let this work so I know I'll be leaving and this torture will be over !

Anyhow, hope everyone is is doing well.

xx

CaipirinhasAllRound · 18/09/2012 15:47

Went for lunch with a friend from work today who started TTC a couple of months after us and got pregnant within 3 months. Told her we'd got some dates for IVF then had to go to Boots with her so she could buy lots of baby stuff. It was fine but I was slightly miffed that she wasn't a bit more thoughtful given the conversation

Probably me just being a grumpy cow though

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notnowImreading · 20/09/2012 18:00

Hello all

I fed up. I have been so busy since going back to work that I have not managed to book an appointment or even research our local centre for IVF. I have no idea whether this is psychological avoidance of the issue or just TOO MUCH BLOODY WORK. I am exhausted. We did manage to shag when I had an OPK Smile but only the one time so not holding out hope.

We are having huge dramas with my step daughter at the moment, who is threatening all sorts of dramatic things because her boyfriend has been selfish enough to go to uni and abandon her. The poor sap has caved in and is now hoping to defer - I give them two weeks before they start asking for him to move in with us. That'll be a no, darling. Anyway, she is distraught and waking us up weeping at two in the morning and wanting to get into our bed (she is 18).

All in all, not bothering with IVF this month looks like a good move! Am holding it together, but just barely.

missbrightside · 21/09/2012 08:52

Hello girls !

Just a quick one !

Caipirinhas Is it this weekend you are a bridesmaid ? If so, have a really special day - hope the sun shines for you.

Not Now Sorry to hear you are exhausted. I'm not surprised if you are being woken up by wailing a wailing lovesick teenager ! She wants to go in your bed Confused Sounds like you deserve a Wine. The IVF will still be there for you next month.

Am now on day four of downregging and feel absolutely fine. Now just wishing the time away so that we can get this over with ............ !! Got a busy weekend so that will distract me for two days !!!

Hope everyone else is doing well.

Take care and enjoy the weekend xxx

CaipirinhasAllRound · 23/09/2012 20:49

Bridesmaid duties now over! Wedding was amazing, everyone looked gorgeous and the sun shone! We had a brilliant time

We had our IVF meeting last week and reckon we'll be ready for them to collect eggs mid december time, although I'm a bit worried that if my cycles are on the longer side - and they are quite irregular - that we'd have to wait another month as they're closed over Christmas. In which case I don't know if we'd still get it funded as i'd have had my 35th birthday by then. This cycle is currently a bit longer than average. We're going back in to sign forms in a week or so so will ask them then

notnow hope you're ok and that your stepdaughter is feeling better!
missbrightside good luck with the down regging. Is it a nasal spray?

I don't have any more big events in the calendar so intend to try not to drink anymore...

Hope everyone is ok and had a good weekend
X

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notnowImreading · 23/09/2012 22:17

Much improved situation in the notnow house - dsd has calmed down a lot and I did get my work done before the weekend. Have had a lovely weekend, actually. Amazing show on Friday, lovely day wandering around London yesterday and lazy day with lovely lunch today. Feel like a new woman!

Great news about the IVF, Caipirinhas, and the wedding sounds splendid. Thanks to you and Brightside for the words of support when I was whinging.

LesleyKnope · 25/09/2012 14:39

notnow glad it hear your household's calmed down a bit - being tested by teen step daughter whilst juggling work and ttc will def prepare you to be an awes mum to a new bub! Hope you have another lovely weekend ahead :)

capirinhas will keep fingers and toes you can sneak in treatment before your birthday or they're at least sensible about having some flexibility if it's just a matter of weeks after.

brightside how's the downregging going? I've only done short cycles. Hope you're feeling ok & staying positive on the ivf rollercoaster!

Our house renovations have been full on & budget is totally blown so annoyingly we're going to have to postpone ivf no3 - probably till the new year :(

missbrightside · 26/09/2012 09:12

Hello all

Caipihrinas Glad the wedding went well. That would be very harsh if they didn't fund your cycle - I'll keep my fingers crossed that all the timings work out for you. No, I'm not using the nasel spray (and for some reason the thought of it makes me shudder a bit !). I'm on injectible Buserelin.

Not Now Glad you are feeling brighter and had a good weekend. What show did you see ? I'm seeing Warhorse in a couple of weeks.

Lesley Hope that despite the hassel the house is looking good ! Worryingly there really aren't so many weeks left this year - so the new year will come round before you know it.

Am now on day 9 of downregging and really haven't had any side effects at all. So now I'm convinced it's not working (although I thought exactly the same last time ........ !) Have got a scan in a week when will hopefully start stimming.

Right - really MUST try and concentrate today ..............!!

Have a good day xx

CaipirinhasAllRound · 03/10/2012 17:40

Hi everyone

Hope you're all well

mrsbrightside what stage are you at now? Hope it's going ok.

We've had our consent consultation today and I've had a baseline scan and trial embryo transfer. All went well so just hoping this cycle is short otherwise we have wait a month as Christmas would get in the way. Doesn't look as though funding will be an issue as even if we have to wait a month I would still start down regging before my birthday.

And DH's results were good despite it being done after a stag do!

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notnowImreading · 03/10/2012 19:04

I have just had the most amazing conversation with my head teacher. I popped in to discuss a completely different issue and he asked me how 'it' was going (he knows because I needed time off for the miscarriages last year and I couldn't be arsed to lie about why). I told him that we need to go for IVF and that I've been looking into local options because I was worried about the amount of time off I'd need for a London clinic - he said that it was too important to mess about, to find out the best place and go there and not to worry about it or feel guilty but to take the week off on paid leave. This is the man who makes you take unpaid leave for funerals!

Better get on with it, then. Smile

CaipirinhasAllRound · 03/10/2012 19:56

Great news notnow
We chose Oxford over the slightly nearer one which would have been really easy for my work as it has better results and they treat loads more people each year
Have you been on the HFEA website?

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