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Oh raspberry I'm sorry. I know how you feel, it's so crushing. Let yourself have a little mope and cry, but try to pick yourself back up fairly soon. The sadness becomes all encompassing otherwise.

Lots of and chocolate for you.

So sorry raspberry :( xxx

I Go away for 24 hours and miss another posting party.
Hello all newbies.

Well i have also convinced myself im pg as i have woke up feeling sick the last 2 days (even though its to early for that) and iv been getting tingly pains in my ovaries.

Im never going to get pg if our sex life doesn't improve... i worked it out and since september we have had sex 12 times.....

i didnt think we were that couple that didnt do it. Things just seem to get in the way apart from around ov time. DP is working way more (farmer) so he is always so tired. its not that we dont want to we just dont iyswim.
how can i get more i the mood and get him in the mood?

oh on the up side i think dp has decided we are allowed to carry on ttc while wedding planning. im so stressed out i dont know if its a good time to get pg even though i was utterly gutted when he said we should stop.

Just a quick post to say sorry to Raspberry, hello to newbies [waves] and Amazeballs we had that problem and as much as we discussed it and resolved to change things, life does get in the way unfortunately. It was me wanting it, but it didn't even occur to DH that we might have sex so we did things like going out for a meal and dressing up all fancy, and then on the ruder side, a visit or two to ann summers provided some encouragement

I put my DH on a course of 'alternative stimulation', as there's lots of evidence that regular ejaculation improves sperm quality and quantity, and 5 days abstinence causes noticeable problems. As I'm not up for SWI/FF that often, particularly over AF and the week leading up to ov, we came up with a different solution. Works well so far, we make sure we do something together every 2-3 days, with SWI at the right time, and any other time just what we feel like doing. I realise not everyone is comfortable with this sort of thing, but it's an option it took me a surprisingly long time to realise was there!

So sorry about AF raspberry, your time will come. Try and spoil yourself a little to take the edge off the disappointment and sadness.

I don't really have much to report here, I'm in my 2ww and bored of it. No symptoms, and not much hope. AF due around the 8-11th. I really want a follow up consultation with my Dr after my HSG, as I'm not sure if our chances are low enough to put us forward for IVF. He said at the last appt "If all is clear, we'll leave you try longer. If not, we'll refer you to IVF." Well, we were 50% clear, so?

Hello to all the newbies! I completely missed out on the surge of posts because my friend had her baby yesterday so I was too busy being excited for her to come here! It is so pudgy and cute and cuddly, I'm trying very hard to not be jealous, but, well you all know how I feel!

Made cupcakes and drank a bottle glass of Pinot last night to cheer self up. I'm thinking if my friend's baby has to have a birthday on the 29th of Feb, the only crappier day to have a birthday is Christmas, so March will be the month for us!

Hi Everyone,

I am completely new to mumsnet and only just started TTC. My only issue is I can't take tablets and can't find anything that I can take in a liquid or chewable format. Only came off the injection 2 weeks ago so not panicking just yet but I do want to get organised!

Can I have a bit of a rant please, sorry, I know it's a childish subject

I had a text row with my (only) friend last night. She's pg and being a bit insensitive, making comments about how difficult it's going to be for her having a baby and basically making a mountain out of a molehill, as she always has. She was complaining about trivial things again yesterday so I said it's not forever and it's better than IVF so she said we were drifting apart (which is true because we don't have much in common anymore) and that we need to support each other. I agreed but said it was hard to be sympathetic when I'm in the position I'm in, and she's got what I so desperately want. She said she doesn't want my sympathy (despite only ever complaining to me) and that her life hasn't been easy and neither has her pregnancy (let's be honest. She had a few weeks of morning sickness months ago, that's it). I've left it at that because I was going to say something I regretted. Anyway, I just want her to be a bit more sensitive to what I'm going through, and perhaps not complain quite so much about something that is really a blessing. She needs to realise how lucky she is

Josie: I really feel for you. I think that, like most people who have never had to deal with infertility, your friend does not realise how painful it can be. Maybe, in a sort of twisted way, she is trying to make you feel better by complaining about being pg instead of being all excited and happy about it in front of you. I don't know if that is the case but I can totally relate to how you are feeling. For me, the worse is when friends try to reassure me by telling me that "it will happen" and all manner of other cliches, as well-meaning as they are. Maybe you need to take some time out to gather your thoughts and have an honest chat with her about how hard you're finding IVF and how you need her support and understanding.

Raspberry: I hope you're feeling a bit better and I'm so sorry about AF...it sucks, there's no other way of describing it. Hope you've treated yourself to some chocolate and some .

I had my second IUI this morning and it was absolutely horrendous. The first one was bad enough but this one took the biscuit! I was in agony as the nurse kept fiddling with the speculum for bloody ages as she could not find the angle...she told me, once again, that my cervix is way off balance and that my anatomy is "twisted". Thanks! (I retorted). To make matters worse, they told me that this is the last go we will get as funding will be stopped on March 31st and then nobody knows what will happen. I insisted that I wanted a laparoscopy because I have a feeling that something is not right and she said she would speak to the consultant and check if I could also have a hysteroscopy to see what's going on with my uterus .

I am trying to keep my spirits up but I am not very hopeful...I think I will start seriously looking into doing IVF privately. It's going to be a big expense but the way it's looking at the minute, it looks like it might be the only available option for us.

Have a nice weekend everyone!

Hey josie looking at it from both points of view its probably very hard for both of you. Your friend is going through the most amazing thing and you are going through something very difficult, i think you may both have lost your way a bit.
In her eyes her pregnancy may be difficult and she is wanting support from a friend and your finding it hard because you would give anything to be in that situation. Im sure she doesn't want to upset you as you don't her but because you both a little sensitive at the minute your clashing. i do think meeting up and talking to her is a great idea being honest with her about how hard it is but also realizing that what she is going through is hard for different reasons.
i hope you can work it out

Well i don't know if i'm coming or going i went to to the doctor today as my moods have been just awful since i came off the pill and i was prescribed affex (Prozac). i had been having uncontrollable mood swings and they were getting worse. i was like this as a teen but put it down to being a teen and had been on the pill since 16.
He has advised me to stop ttc till its all settled and sorted ie drugs and dosage ect
Im scared about being on drugs, i barely take pills for a headache.
Going to spend the weekend with my dad and see some old friends to take my mind off it.

Hi ladies! Hope someone has some nice weather somewhere because it's horrible here, after such a nice week of sunshine!

amazeballs just wanted to say that my mood swings when I first came off the pill the very first time (a few years back) were horrific to the point that DH and I talked about splitting up! I then went back on the pill and stayed on for a year. The second time around we were aware what might happen and kind of had a coping strategy and eventually, after 6 months it settled down and now I'm fine, just grumpy when AF is around - or when DH is actually annoying me!

josie I can sympathise with how you feel about your friend, it is very hard. One of my friends has suffered quite a bit through her pregnancy and is due to give birth any day now but when she's talked about her problems she's almost phrased what she's saying like a question to me so I end up saying 'I don't know hun, I've never been pregnant'. grrrrrr

Sorry to hear your IUI was so bad MCT but hope they sort out the Lap for you asap if the IUI isn't successful.

Stasi that sounds like a good plan you have there, the sperm quality thing is such a pain, it's bad enough having to worry about what's wrong with us, when is the right time to do it etc without worrying that the sperms aren't top quality and I think men stress about it a lot too, more than they let on anyhow. I may try your approach this month though!

Hi Secret, we've been trying around 2 or so years now, we are in the 'investigation' stage and I'm having a lap & dye in 6 weeks so they can have a look around. I really don't know why I got so excited this cycle, I think it was just because we had a lot of sex at exactly the right time. I don't think I'll bother worrying this month.

Hi to all the newbies and everyone else I haven't name checked, I've been so all over the place the last couple of weeks I've lost track! Still feel pretty low to be honest but we are due to move house at the end of March and have a, quite honestly, chaotic 10 weeks ahead of us if I include the operation time, then a couple of weddings, hen do's then another wedding, then holidays etc etc, this year is going frighteningly quickly. I've also had my referral letter through for a genetics counselor so once I get a date (I have to fill in some paperwork and send it back first) I'll be off to see them. Will be interesting to hear what they have to say. Right, I'm off in the rain to go and take some clothes back that weren't quite right from my splurge last week and replace them with some that are right :)

Its all gone very quiet, is everybody off baby dancing?

Evening Prickly, yes in fact we have been busy dtd . I got a positive on my cheapy OPK yesterday and the CBFM kicked in this morning with a peak reading. We dtd Friday, yesterday and today and, if need be, DH will come home tomorrow night so we can get one more in.

Fingers crossed

Hey there,
Gosh cave that sounds like fun - fingers crossed successful too!

Well, my period arrived today (well sort of yesterday with cramps and spotting, but I think you're meant to count from proper flow?) - which is CD35 -which I know to some is quite long, but actually all my cycles post pill have been 42-45 days, so I'm very foolishly excited and optimistic that this means that things might be settling down ignoring the polycystic ovaries on scan
Denial - not just a river in Africa...

Go Cave Go!

Mrsmellow Good news that the cycles are sorting themselves out. I think that you're supposed to count from your first day of proper flow as you say, but I'm no expert as I've only had 1 AF since coming off the pill and so far and that was decidedly weird - I had 2 days on, 1 day off, then another 2 days on!

MrsMellow I hope your cycles are sorting themselves out. Loving the denial joke

Hope you're enjoying yourself Cave

I've started bleeding so the symptoms have calmed down a bit and I feel a bit better. I'm counting everything down, x weeks till the end of the cycle, x days till I start stims, x days until I know if I'm responding to stims, x injections left. It helps to see how far I've come

Thanks josie - I'm confused (and ignorant ) but you were having injections - what was that for? I thought it would be to stimulate eggs that they would harvest and then fertilise and then implant? but was it for something else - do they do that over 2 cycles?
Glad you have a mechanism for coping - I always find counting things helps too..can be a bit overwhelming otherwise I'm sure.

Thanks for the support ladies! DH did come home last night, bless him he had to get up at 3.30am to get back to base in time to get a lift to Wales for a meeting. We live in East Anglia!

Waiting to see if we've timed it right. The OPKs are negative now, but of course the devil on my shoulder is telling me it might have been a false surge and I haven't ovulated after all. Will know more from my temps in the next day or so.

I did manage to pick up a sex-related injury! After our Sunday session I had a sore neck and frozen shoulder which is only just getting back to normal now! We weren't swinging from the chandelier or anything!

Josie, sounds like you've got yourself a good system to help keep you fairly calm and focused. I really do have everything crossed for you

At the moment MrsMellow I'm having my natural cycle 'switched off' so I'm down-regging as I'm reliably informed it's called. Basically they need a blank canvas to work from, so at the moment the injections are to make sure my ovaries aren't producing any follicles and my womb lining is thin, then I'll have a second lot of injections, as well as continuing this lot, to make my ovaries produce loads of follicles (in theory anyway) and then they'll take them out and fertilise them, and then I'll start pessaries to build up a thick womb lining. Overall it'll take about 7-8 weeks, currently on week 3 but from next week it's all systems go with follicle stimulating and scans, I just want it over and done with

Evening all, been quiet in here lately. Im trying to cut back on my Internet ttc obsession but it's not going very well! Nothing very exciting going on in my world unfortunately. Hoping to move at the end of the month so I think I need to start packing maybe :/

Very impressed with your DH cave that is true commitment! Fingers crossed this is the month :)

josie hope the injections are going well and are less traumatic, I hadn't realised it was such a long process, I thought maybe a couple of weeks! I've got a lot to learn obviously!

Hi everyone else! xx

Thanks for explaining Josie - I had no idea that it was so complicated, I'm not surprised you want it over and done with - fingers crossed for success.

cave - am very impressed that your DH made the mammoth journey -I guess there were other advantages

It's been a bad news day all around here. I found out that the dermoid on my ovary is bigger than we thought so will definitely have to have that removed.

Also, I have two friends who got PG around the same time. I don't think either of them is past 8 weeks yet but because they are drinkers and smokers it became obvious to us right away when they were'nt partaking and they soon after confirmed it. One of them has now miscarried. Somehow it seems even worse for her since the other one is still ok. I know that I couldn't help but get excited when I thought maybe the three of us could be PG together and was sorely disappointed when AF showed up. I can only imagine how much worse it is for the friend who miscarried :(

Hi everyone,

Josie: it's interesting to read about the process you're going through as it looks like we'll be embarking upon it very soon. I did not know it took 7-8 weeks! I hope that you're finding it a bit more bearable now.

MissMedusa: sorry to hear about the dermoid. Do you know when you're likely to have it removed and whether you will need to wait a while after that before ttcing again? I had a huge ovarian cyst removed just over 3 years ago through keyhole surgery and I thought it would help me to get PG but it hasn't although I reckon I've got other problems too which I hope can be detected and treated soon.

I rang the nurse yesterday to ask whether she'd had a chance to speak to the consultant about my "weird anatomy" and the possibility of having a laparoscopy and hysteroscopy but she said she couldn't as he was very busy and asked me to ring again tomorrow...this time, for her own good, I hope she'll have an answer for me or else I will have to give her a piece of my mind as I'm not prepared to have to pay for the tests privately on top of IVF costs which are already quite steep...

At the moment, I am on the dreaded 2 week wait and not enjoying it at all...I'm not sure why but I've had this horrible lower back pain on my right side since Monday and I can barely move without screaming in agony. I've tried ice and heat patches and it soothes it for a while but it is refusing to go away so I feel a bit useless and unable to do much. I keep thinking of the finishing line but I can't help feeling a little sorry for myself when I look at the papers/magazines and everyone seems to be pregnant at the moment! I wish it was contagious!

MCT76 you should probably have that pain seen to, it doesn't sound good! I know what you mean about everyone seeming to be pg at the moment. There's definitely a baby boom, what a time to be TTCing unsucessfully

I'm afraid to report that I'm struggling at the moment. Had a bit of a wobble last night and almost told DH to put the needle away as I honestly didn't think I could do it. It hurt a bit, and I cried a lot. I cried from the moment I got home from work. I'm scared I'm going through all of this for nothing and I'm scared that if it doesn't work I won't be able to put myself through another cycle, and that will be the end of my dream to start a family. I'm not trying to put you off MCT, but at times it's a lot harder than you imagine. I thought it would be hard, but I didn't realise how hard. Worth a try though, I still believe that

MissMedusa I hope you can get that cyst sorted, it sounds nasty!

Raspberry I hope your move goes well, exciting!