TTC for 10+ months, part 4

[eurochick]

Time for a new thread as the other one is just about full.

Fingers crossed for lots of patiently-awaited BFPs on this one!

wine my friends sister was anorexic and a tually nearly died. She was told she was infertile, so she never used contraception. She has 5 kids now, one set of twins, so don't worry.

Stasi I knew what you meant too. I wish there was some magic recipe for getting pg. My last post was just late in the office on a Friday night grumpiness!

Oh euro my Friday night grumpiness is legendary. I just took mine out on the muckheap . Please don't feel bad stasi we all knew what you meant and I think it's a more general irate-ness that there isn't in fact a magic formula; that so many people take endless liberties with their health and, you'd think,their fertility but still end up with several children, whereas it seems we do everything "right" to no avail.

wine I too know an ex anorexic and she's just had her first DD despite being told she was probably infertile, it was natural and fairly quick order after their wedding. Also please don't worry about your BMI. Mine is much the same and I consider myself in fairly rude health actually. I've never had eating problems (quite the contrary to be honest) so firstly a low BMI doesn't have to be related to that. I am rarely sick or sorry, have muscle coverage I'm proud of (comedy Guns as a result of all the horsey chores , no pipecleaner model body here) and a voracious appetite. I wear size 8 clothes. I will never believe my skinniness is an issue in fertility because I don't deprive my body of anything to "achieve" this size, some people are just smaller. I hope this doesn't sound like I'm my own number 1 fan, but just hoped I could reassure you a little. Though perhaps this argument would hold more weight if I was pregnant already .

Thanks LemonDriz, but it isn't really perseverance, just not wanting to face up to the fact there may be a problem. Kept doing the whole "we're not actively trying, just not trying to stop it" thing, despite symptom spotting every month. Kept telling myself "never mind, this month wasn't the right time anyway" cos of economy and job situation. It still isn't the "right time", financially or careerwise, to actually get pg but i can't put that side of my life on hold forever, time is ticking. I think I stupidly and naively thought that once it was the right time, (or once i stopped being able to wait for the right time) i'd go to the docs and he'd just say "ok, let's send you off to the fertility clinic" and it'd all be ok. I hadn't even decided whether I would go down the IVF route, but just assumed that it would be an option. I left going to the docs approximately three months too late to be eligible. Don't know whether eligibilty for chlomid or similar is on the same criteria.

Sorry, venting, having a low day. Ignore me. Anyway, I am very impressed with all you charting people. I'm not sufficiently conscious when I first wake up to think of taking my temp! I have tried, but even if I put the thermometer by the alarm clock, i'm still in the shower before I remember! Good luck to those of you currently waiting for results and/or bfps!

Goodness there was lots to catch up on tonight!

I'm on my phone so can't copy and paste but can someone add me to stats.

izzybizzybuzzybees ttc#2 ME 27 DH 27 married for 3 years ttc #2 for 17 months but in that whole time I've only had 4 cycles! I have just been diagnosed pcos with right ovary covered in cysts, left not as bad. Cycles non existant really, currently cd 71. On metformin now, bmi is 35.6 :( but at ww and as long as is less than 35 at appt in Jan we will start clomid. everything normal with DH.

We fly out on hols at 8:30am tomorrow so must sleep now. The way this threads going there will be a new thread by time I log back on!!

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.

nelly ttc 15 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 33, first SA all normal. Still not organised enough to get second set done, or indeed get round to further investigations. So unexplained so far.

Pixiepops ttc 12 months, me 35 - blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Starting clomid next cycle, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.

Karbea ttc 13 months, me 37 - blood tests all ok, not further tests done yet. DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means). Going to ARGC on Monday! Yikes!

LemonDrizzle ttc 16 months, both 32; all tests done at 12 months: nothing wrong with me (except slight irregularity, but we are talking a range of 24-31 days, with most 26-28), DH's SA okay but low volume and possible (head) morphology issues - after deliberation they sent us home to try more. Next step is IUI in Feb, then IVF in summer/autumn. Debating whether I want intervention yet, because it took my parents 6 yrs.

Gin ttc 16 months. Me 33, DH 32. My 21 day blood tests all fine. DH's SA disastrous! Count of 3 mil, very few normal and crap morphology. Urologists appt in Dec.

cakes82 ttc 13 months, married 18months. Me 29, DH 28. (af irregular range of 22-43 most around 25-26) DH's SA satisfactory bloods all fine apart from LH/FSH get retest results today still think done on wrong day tho. Clinic appt 22nd Nov.

citysnow ttc 14 months. Me 35, DH 35. Irregular and longish cycles before accupuncture started in May (now about 30 days rather than 38-44) so trying to pretend it has only really been 6 months...All tests done and show nothing so we are unexplained. IUI due to start in Jan 12 (with clomid?!)

ladygee tcc 12 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed problems with my right tube. On IVF/ICSI NHS waiting list (13 months). Deciding when to take the plunge and self-fund IVF/ICSI.

euro ttc 12 months (now on cycle 13). Me 35, Husband 36. Married 14 months. My blood tests fine, although I only just scraped a reading of 30 to confirm ov. TV u/s fine. HSG - tubes all clear. Hubby's 2 SAs fine -some below average scores but on different factors across the 2 tests so the fertility clinic thought this was fine. Now awaiting NHS IVF and seeing a private consultant for immunology testing soon. Would like to discuss with him the possibility of less "drastic" treatment before IVF.

joycep ttc 19 months (22cyles). Me 32, DH 29. DH SA fine (7% morph). 1 m/c at 7wks 17months ago. I seem to be fine with a low AMH level for my age. Shortish LP. Tried Clomid for 2 months. Progesterone Suppostories. 2 x IUI cycles. 3rd IUI cancelled.

kitty 32, DH 33. TTC #1 for 15 months. DH's first SA showed poor morphology (2%). Second one count and morphology better (7%). As wine said, some people think that's fine and others not. Day 21 test done, confirmed ovulation (60). No other blood tests done yet; consultant deemed unnecessary as ov response so strong got my HSG next week. Next appointment in Feb and a could be a straight referral for ivf. Considering self funding a few iui cycles in the meantime if tubes clear though.

mrsden 30, DH 31. ttc 16 months (18 cycles). Tests show I have PCOS but think I ovulate most months but not all. DH has very low count and poor morphology. ICSI recommended, saving up to start summer 2012 and praying for a natural BFP in the meantime.

MrsHY1/MrsFrittata 31. TTC 12 months. Have polycystic ovaries but normal bloods. Cycles vary but tend to be 30-35 days with late O (even with Clomid) at cd18-25. Short luteal phase of 9-11 days. 4 cycles of Clomid down, 2 to go. HSG next week (agh). OH's results normal.

izzybizzybuzzybees ttc#2 ME 27 DH 27 married for 3 years ttc #2 for 17 months but in that whole time I've only had 4 cycles! I have just been diagnosed pcos with right ovary covered in cysts, left not as bad. Cycles non existant really, currently cd 71. On metformin now, bmi is 35.6 but at ww and as long as is less than 35 at appt in Jan we will start clomid. everything normal with DH.

TheCake ttc#1 I'm 31 and DH is 32, we've been married for 16 months and ttc for 11 months with no hint of a bfp! My cycle varies from 28 to 33 days, my luteal phase is short but it has got to 11 days most recently which is better than the 9 it was. If I'm not pregnant by next year I will go to the docs. I'm healthy weight and fit- do yoga and run and my DH is too, however we both have stressful jobs and probably drink too much!

Hi everyone, posted my stats above; it took ages to read through the 5 pages since I last posted on thursday!

karbea I love love love candy Anthony dresses, was very tempted myself but went for a Jenny packham instead which is hanging up on the back of the door in my spare room!

Got my university friends saying with me tonight so going out with them for a big night out tonight! None of them have children yet either so will not have to endure any baby talk, just lots of nostalgia about our student days probably!

Hope everyone has a good weekend

Note to self don't watch a prog where people are emotional when af is due.

Hope everyone having a good weekend :)

Hi all,

A couple of people dropped off the list such has been the speed of this thread, so here (I think ) is the updated list of everyone so far:

wine ttc 12 months, me 34, nothing appears to be drastically wrong yet bar a 9.5 fsh that consultant thinks was done on wrong day. Mr wine 32, 7% morphology which seems to be a problem and not a problem depending on who we talk to.

nelly ttc 15 months, me 37, blood tests show nothing major wrong, no further tests done on me yet. OH 33, first SA all normal. Still not organised enough to get second set done, or indeed get round to further investigations. So unexplained so far.

Pixiepops ttc 12 months, me 35 - blood tests all ok apart from low amh so time is of the essence. Starting clomid next cycle, if no bfp after 4 cycles our consultant's going to refer us for ivf. DP's 36, his only SA was good.

Karbea ttc 13 months, me 37 - blood tests all ok, not further tests done yet. DP's 38 - 1 SA done results "average" (whatever that means). Going to ARGC on Monday! Yikes!

LemonDrizzle ttc 16 months, both 32; all tests done at 12 months: nothing wrong with me (except slight irregularity, but we are talking a range of 24-31 days, with most 26-28), DH's SA okay but low volume and possible (head) morphology issues - after deliberation they sent us home to try more. Next step is IUI in Feb, then IVF in summer/autumn. Debating whether I want intervention yet, because it took my parents 6 yrs.

Gin ttc 16 months. Me 33, DH 32. My 21 day blood tests all fine. DH's SA disastrous! Count of 3 mil, very few normal and crap morphology. Urologists appt in Dec.

cakes82 ttc 13 months, married 18months. Me 29, DH 28. (af irregular range of 22-43 most around 25-26) DH's SA satisfactory bloods all fine apart from LH/FSH get retest results today still think done on wrong day tho. Clinic appt 22nd Nov.

citysnow ttc 14 months. Me 35, DH 35. Irregular and longish cycles before accupuncture started in May (now about 30 days rather than 38-44) so trying to pretend it has only really been 6 months...All tests done and show nothing so we are unexplained. IUI due to start in Jan 12 (with clomid?!)

ladygee tcc 12 months. Me 29, DH 32. DH SA is below average on all counts (don't remember all the stats). HSG showed problems with my right tube. On IVF/ICSI NHS waiting list (13 months). Deciding when to take the plunge and self-fund IVF/ICSI.

euro ttc 12 months (now on cycle 13). Me 35, Husband 36. Married 14 months. My blood tests fine, although I only just scraped a reading of 30 to confirm ov. TV u/s fine. HSG - tubes all clear. Hubby's 2 SAs fine -some below average scores but on different factors across the 2 tests so the fertility clinic thought this was fine. Now awaiting NHS IVF and seeing a private consultant for immunology testing soon. Would like to discuss with him the possibility of less "drastic" treatment before IVF.

joycep ttc 19 months (22cyles). Me 32, DH 29. DH SA fine (7% morph). 1 m/c at 7wks 17months ago. I seem to be fine with a low AMH level for my age. Shortish LP. Tried Clomid for 2 months. Progesterone Suppostories. 2 x IUI cycles. 3rd IUI cancelled.

kitty 32, DH 33. TTC #1 for 15 months. DH's first SA showed poor morphology (2%). Second one count and morphology better (7%). As wine said, some people think that's fine and others not. Day 21 test done, confirmed ovulation (60). No other blood tests done yet; consultant deemed unnecessary as ov response so strong got my HSG next week. Next appointment in Feb and a could be a straight referral for ivf. Considering self funding a few iui cycles in the meantime if tubes clear though.

mrsden 30, DH 31. ttc 16 months (18 cycles). Tests show I have PCOS but think I ovulate most months but not all. DH has very low count and poor morphology. ICSI recommended, saving up to start summer 2012 and praying for a natural BFP in the meantime.

Fatima 25, DH 36. ttc 19months. Married 14 months. All my bloods and scan fine. DHs SA disastrous. 2 tests at 1 year. Self funding ICSI with egg share at private clinic, should start DR in Jan. DH has a SA with private clinic of 2mill but not great morph and motility. Had some frozen just incase.

seriouscaffeineaddict Ttc 30 months, me 34, dh 39. Thanks to pct rule change this summer ivf no longer an option as dh has a ds. Day 21 test looming, SA also pending. Evrrything regular and normal so no idea what problem is.

Stasi 30, DH 30. TTC#1 for 15 months (cycle 17). Day 3/21 bloods taken, but not got results. DH's SA form got, but not 'produced' or delivered. Planned for next week. Previous medical history could be a problem; as I had 6 months of chemo (Cap/Ox), but there are no studies available for their effect on fertility. Ov varies between days 14-18, LP from 9-13 days, and cycle length from 26-29 days.

MrsHY1/MrsFrittata 31. TTC 12 months. Have polycystic ovaries but normal bloods. Cycles vary but tend to be 30-35 days with late O (even with Clomid) at cd18-25. Short luteal phase of 9-11 days. 4 cycles of Clomid down, 2 to go. HSG next week (agh). OH's results normal.

izzybizzybuzzybees ttc#2 ME 27 DH 27 married for 3 years ttc #2 for 17 months but in that whole time I've only had 4 cycles! I have just been diagnosed pcos with right ovary covered in cysts, left not as bad. Cycles non existant really, currently cd 71. On metformin now, bmi is 35.6 but at ww and as long as is less than 35 at appt in Jan we will start clomid. everything normal with DH.

TheCake ttc#1 I'm 31 and DH is 32, we've been married for 16 months and ttc for 11 months with no hint of a bfp! My cycle varies from 28 to 33 days, my luteal phase is short but it has got to 11 days most recently which is better than the 9 it was. If I'm not pregnant by next year I will go to the docs. I'm healthy weight and fit- do yoga and run and my DH is too, however we both have stressful jobs and probably drink too much

Hope you all enjoy your Saturday evenings ladies

Just popped on to add to comments about BFPs after a long time trying. I have three friends who were adopted and two of them have younger siblings who were naturally conceived after their parents thought it was impossible. Still I am glad that we have more options now even if I hope to avoid ivf (although am trying to prepare myself for it...)

Well- had a great night and feeling a bit rough today!

Also one of my university friends is pregnant! I am genuinely really pleased for her though- also she has been trying for 11 months and she puts her success down to the clearblue fertility monitor. I did get one and used it for one month but ended up chucking it out after DH said it was too much pressure. I wonder if he will have change his mind now, she has offered to give it me...

Cake you could use it but not tell your husband when the peak days are? Just make sure you jump him on those days?

I tell mine when the monthly shagfest starts (I try to have lots of swi from around CD 8 until after my temp chart confirms ov) but I don't tell him when the best days are, which relieves some of the pressure. I'd prefer not to say anything but pre-ttc we tended to dtd only at weekends in long leisurely sessions rather than at midweek quickies, so I have to indicate that midweek attention is required somehow!

We do exactly the same euro (I think we've said this before). Though, at last AF, I explained a tiny bit more of the science and why it's important to be a little bit more focussed, so we've so far had sex Wed night, Fri night, Sat morn and Sun morning. Unfortunately I'm now away for 48hrs and don't think I've OV'd yet, but might still be ok.

Having a wobble. Had friends round last night with 2yo. They put DS to sleep in our room whilst we had dinner and I snuck in to stare at him whilst he was sleeping . After they left the house felt empty. There was also news of a mutual friend's pregnancy, talk of another who hasn't started trying again yet but got pg first month both times previously. And also an innocent but incredibly hurtful comment about how children are the most amazing thing, considering how simple they are to have. I'm feeling fragile today, and it's not the wine

Hope others are feeling chirpier than me!

Hello ladies. Is it okay if I come back and join you all? Sorry for falling off the radar but the house move turned into a disaster of epic proportions and we ended up homeless for 8 weeks with no internet connection.

I haven't read back through all the old posts as there are lots so sorry for blundering in & not name checking or anything. Hello to all the old faces - I have missed you - and hello to all the new ladies

What BFP's have I missed? Hope there were loads!

eurochick that sounds like a good idea. Prior to ttc we only dtd at weekends too (except when we first got together as students and would be at it a few times a day)!

pout!! Welcome back! We really have missed you and if you read back on the part 3 thread, we often wondered where you were and if you were OK. I have particularly missed your funny posts so settle in and get comfy. Are you finally moved now? Well, you haven't missed a big rush of bfps. I think you were here when biscuits got hers and also if you remember munki, she was the last one to see two lovely lines. The rest of us are still here. I'm not sure that this is really a good thing but at least we are in it together. We have also put together a handy list for you to catch up

nelly hug to you. We went out with friends with a 3 year old a few weeks ago. He was so much fun and it made me have the ache very badly, more so even than with babies? I missed him when I went home! So I hear you. Chin up. Here is a story to cheer you up( I hope). Was talking to a good friend today about ttc woes and her friend (who I know, this seems to have more gravity) has just had a baby. She is 41. She didn't have any interventions and did it naturally after 3 (!) years. She said she just thought it wasn't going to happen. I know that is a bloody long time, but, it just shows - it happens. I think I'm resigning myself for the long haul but I do think it will happen in the end to all of us. You have a wedding - that feels like a bump in a dress waiting to happen

I have done painting of the house today. I've been avoiding paint fumes for months but thought oh sod it and have happily inhaled them all day.Painting woodwork is very boring though. It is venison for tea in the Wine household. I've never had it and I'm not very keen but dh is loving the red meat aspect of the acu food list. The trouble is, there aren't loads of foods on the blood forming list! We are a bit bored of cabbage and aubergine. And chestnuts.And I hate liver. Stupid periods and body. I wish you would behave and stop being so attention seeking.

Good weekend everyone?

pout!!!! hooray, you are alive . Sorry to hear about your house move woes, is it all sorted? I echo everything wine said, so pleased to have you back, except for the fact obviously I wish you were back with a BFP.

Thanks wine for the hug and the empathy. And the positive story . It's our constant lament, but I so wish we had a crystal ball. It would be so much easier if someone just told me "look it'll take another year, but then it'll be fine after that".

Venison. Me not like.

Pout ! It's good to have you back. Sorry the move sounded like a nightmare. I hope you are settled now.

I flippng love roasted chestnuts Wine Mmmmmm.

Oh my god pout, how exciting to have you back!! We have been moaning for months that we missed you and wondered where you had got to. So what on earth happened with the house situation, is everything ok now? Any news at all and are your dogs well? I hope your housing situation has taken your mind off TTC at least And put on hold boob testing in the freezer!
You really haven't missed anything. 1 bfp and that's it. Ivf referrals seem to be a theme recently for some people. All the stats are above somewhere. It's so nice to have you back.

nelly - I am sorry about your wobbly day. That would be enough to make anyone feel a bit low having a 2 yr old tucked in upstairs.

Pout is BACK. Sadly no BFP to show for your protracted absence, but you were much missed. Welcome back. How is the house, now you're in it, and have internet? Dogs well? You well?

You don't like venison wine?!? I love it. And aubergines. And chestnut (although they are hard to combine, I find them the perfect early winter evening snack, roasted - hmmmm).

Sorry for your wobbly day nelly. It is hard. And I agree that toddlers have a special hold on the heart strings. It is the hugging and running towards you with snotty, delighted faces, that gets me!

Waves at cakes and runs off from CBFmonitors. Although when I got Another Announcement, I did for a moment consider the option of getting the OPKs out again. Too late for this month in any case: CD 16 and sore boobs mean shag week is over...

Boring office day. Lemon the venison was ok.. But I was veggie for a long time. I love steak now, but venison was a bit gamey. And made me think of Bambi I do like aubergine and chestnuts. But the list is quite small and I'm running out of ideas! But if a bfp arrives this month I can post that venison sealed the deal

If you get your BFP, we'll all be onto venison next month. Can't wait. :)

Hi everyone - hope you all had good weekends.

That blasted thing called work got in the way of me keeping up with posts on Friday afternoon/evening - you ladies were on fire!

I'm another one grappling with the question of how virtuous should you be when TCC. We haven't gone to extremes at all as we're fairly healthy anyway. But we have switched to decaff coffee and have cut down on the booze quite a bit but plan to do so even more now IVF is looming. Exercise is where I fall down - I need to step it up as I know I always feel mentally better as well as physically fitter when I get into the swing of it.

Oh, and to the ladies who mentioned Source Code with Jake Gyllenhaal - thank you. I haven't seen it but anything with that gorgeous man in goes on my 'to watch' list.

Welcome back pout - hope everything is ok now after what sounds like a traumatic couple of months?

Shag week is about to commence here - stupidly I've booked my smear test for this afternoon but I've already put it off for too long. At least we have a weekend away to look forward to on Friday... just need to get through 4.5 days at work first.

Morning everyone. I went home and had a massive cry on Friday evening. Then told DH off for being nice to me (makes me cry more to see him so concerned about me). I find it easier to keep my feelings hidden from myself, and everyone else. I don't like to let it all out because it seems pointless. Doesn't help anyone. I have decided that I'm going to look into starting a healthy diet, exercise, and acupuncture. I want to feel like I'm doing something, instead of sitting around waiting to win the ttc lottery.

Going to get my blood test results this afternoon hopefully, if the nurse will tell me them during my totally unrelated appointment.

So, I enjoyed a weekend of doing nothing.. We managed to do a food shop on Sat and nothing else of note. Someone on MN linked to a site Ravelry which I spent hours looking through and saving knitting projects. I spent my evenings knitting and listening to crime dramas on the TV. I guess while we're ttc we should enjoy our leisurely weekends of nothing, once a baby is here we'll not have any for at least 16 years :)

I love having my nephew around, he turned 3 at the weekend, and is such a delight. Unfortunately he lives 5 hours drive from me, so I don't get to see him as often as I'd like. Last night on the phone he was 'showing' me all his birthday presents, holding them up to the phone and saying "look".

I don't think we'll be having him to stay for Christmas this year unfortunately, as his mum (my sister) has started a new relationship a will probably be doing their own little family Christmas. It's been great having him around for the last couple of years. Just seems to make Christmas complete.

wine I also know another ex-anorexic who's just had a baby. She was in hospital less than 2 years before she got pg, being warned that if she didn't eat she'd die. She looks much healthier and happier now with her baby (though he wasn't planned).

Welcome back pout, I don't think I met you before, but looking forward to getting to know you. Of course, when you get your BFP this month you'll still come to visit right?