TTC for 10+ months, part 4

[eurochick]

Time for a new thread as the other one is just about full.

Fingers crossed for lots of patiently-awaited BFPs on this one!

Just a quick one to say sorry for all the utterly crappy arrivals of AF/ERTD over the weekend for wine, mrsd and euro

I'm in the same boat it arrived in full flow whilst we were away at a friend's house on Saturday (and whilst I was playing with their gorgeous one year old and they were saying how they are ready to start trying again.. bit fat sigh). Everyone's already articulated, better than I could, how we're feeling right now - low doesn't even come close to covering it.

Let's hope for a better few weeks for us all

mrsd - so sorry about AF. No, you're not wrong in thinking its unfair about your friend who is now expecting her 2nd. It's bloody unfair and it's slightly sick making. Really sorry that you have been crying yourself to sleep. I have done this on many an occasion. I think it's just the helplessness we all feel. Out future happiness seems to be totally out of our hands. We are powerless to do anything about it and i find this particularly hard.

wine - happy birthday but what a frigging awful one at that. I can relate to everything you said. Christmas really is a milestone even if we don't purposefully set it. Let's face it Xmas is about kids really and as i cuddle next to DH on the sofa, I know there is a deep sense of sadness between us. The advent calendars, the chocolates on the tree, all the baking - i know it's just my broodiness going in to overdrive. Xmas seems to do that. On another. Ore I had to give DH his yantra mat last night as he can hardly walk from back pain. Wine - I have never heard so much screaming! He was being pathetic because I didn't find it all that bad ...well I thought it had made my back bleed. It apart from that!

nelly - that's nice you have found someone to talk to in RL about everything going on. Just by the fact that we all post fairly regularly on here shows how all consuming all this is and it just shows how important it is to have someone who is going/ been through it. My friends just do not understand it.

euro - you never know what this stuff will do to you. It could be just what is needed. I'm kind of intrigued by what your immune results are goig to say.

Hi lemon and kitty and everyone else. On phone so slightly struggling with checking all posts.

After being so adamant that I wasnt going to test , I decided to at the weekend and bfn. I wonder whether I ovulated last week when I had all that some 3 weeks after I should have done. My breasts are ever so slightly sore.

Sorry half of the above doesn't make sense. Really struggling on phone!!

Morning everyone. It's been so long since I've posted on here that it's dropped off my threads list. I've been reading MN a lot recently, but I just don't feel like I've got much to add. I kind of feel in limbo until the new year when we see the consultant. I'm not even sure if we'll phone up for DH's SA results until after Christmas. If it's bad news it might make him sad, so I'll let him decide for himself.

I've not done any Christmas stuff yet really, apart from making my gravy. I think I'll put the tree up next weekend, I'm putting it off as our cats climb the tree, and they're not kittens any more. This means I have to tie the tree to the bannister, and even then they've managed to tip it over! If that fails they just knock all the decorations off. When you think about it, baubles are perfect cat toys so it's hardly surprising.

I've also got other things to think about, a colonoscopy appointment on the 19th Dec, and now a 'clinical psychology' appointment on the 20th Dec. The colonoscopy is my yearly checkup to make sure the cancer isn't back, and the psychology is to talk about my health anxiety. TTC isn't out of my thoughts, but it's not top-most. I'm at the end of my 2ww, but can't help thinking it's pointless to hope, so am fully expecting AF in the next day or two.

Happy Birthday wine, and sorry about AF showing up and trying her best to spoil it all. I hope you managed to salvage some of your day though.

AF seems to be arriving for many of us, I've started to feel an air of depression around MN recently, not sure if it's just me projecting my own thoughts though.

I really hope one of us gets a Christmas BFP, but a New Year one would be just as lovely (or a Feb, Mar, Apr...). Lots of Christmas booze all round I think. I might take advantage of some of these offers and pick up something strongly alcoholic. Maybe some sloe gin?

Lemon sounds like your appointment was good, and that things are moving forwards. It's amazing how your opinions can change on stuff, smear tests are just a walk in the park now! I hope your usual bleeding cleared up, I don't think you should be too worried if it happened only the once.

Pixie I hope the clomid has continued being good to you.

Joycep I understood the majority of your message. Phones are terrible for correcting things they shouldn't. Did you get any SWI in for what could have been your late ovulation? I hope your cycle gets back to normal very soon, or that you get a BFP out of all of this. Sorry you got a negative over the weekend, I'd like it if there were some nice obvious symptoms of pg that couldn't be missed. Like your tummy turning green :) No more need to test, and no more guessing.

Euro I hope the Letrozole works wonders for you.

I'm going to post before this gets too long, well longer! Waves and cuddles to everyone I've missed mentioning.

I think at Christmas and New Year everything is even more focussed than normal. The thoughts aren't any different to the rest of the year its just that family time and Christmas being about children. Added to which the wishes for the year ahead and looking back on the year you have just had all makes it feel even worse than normal. We all spend a lot of time on here whether posting or just reading because it keeps us sane, helps us understand or just know your not on your own.

I think I would have gone mad a few months ago if I hadn't found this forum and all of you.

Hope everyone is having a good Monday

Hello ladies, I won't ask how everyones weekends went because the spate of AF arrivals says it all.

wine Happy Birthday. I'm so sorry that AF turned up to the party. That seems particularly cruel and awful & to think of you crying like that is horrible. I hear you about the age thing. I was never bothered about my age until we started TTC. Now I feel ancient & see each birthday as something to dread and that statistic about declining fertility plays on my mind all the time. It's weird when we started out I didn't feel old, it felt like a good age to have a baby, but because it's taking so flaming long 36 now feels ancient. Anyway I hope that you are feeling a little better today.

mrsd I'm so sorry that you too are struggling with the arrival of AF. I too am vainly hoping for some kind of xmas miracle and know that I will be bitterly disappointed so I understand why the arrival of your AF would have hit you so hard. In fact the last few months have felt a bit like running some kind of a race to get that BFP before 2011 runs out.
It does feel very unfair that some ladies manage to have two babies in the time it has taken us to achieve nothing on the baby front.

LadyG sorry about your AF as well. It's arrival whilst you were around a baby and baby talk must have been tough. Euro AF for you too. That is crap. I hope that your new medication proves to be lucky for you. Do you start it now?

Lemons Good news about your cancellation. I think that bleeding after a smear is perfectly normal. The nurse who did my last one said that the cervix doesn't like to be touched and some bleeding is normal.

Kitty That nagging voice sounds very familiar. I know what you mean about the escalating broodiness. I feel constantly broody but constantly angry with myself too. I feel so angry at leaving it until my thirties to try and about being totally oblivious to how much more difficult it is after 35. Stupid me. Secretly I feel more and more angry with my DP too for making me wait. I'm finding it harder to suppress that.

Joycep I'm sorry about the BFN, I was wondering about it over the weekend. This cycle does sound weird. Were you ill at all and could ovulation have been delayed by that much?

Stasi Good luck with your appointment. No sign of Xmas in this house either. Tethering up your tree sounds like a good idea. Our cats when I was growing up used to launch themselves at the tree, though it only went over one time. My dogs fortunately leave the tree alone though last year when we were out visiting on Christmas morning they located all their presents under the tree, opened and ate them. I was secretly very impressed that they had only opened theirs and left the others alone!

Izzy SWI for fun???????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I'm still in the SWI phase and hating every moment of it. The pressure of ovulation just seems to make me go right off any duvet diving and instead I'm grumpy and angry. My new obsession is stupidly late ovulation so I thought that this month we should continue SWI until the bitter end but my God I'm really not sure now...

Hello ladies, sorry to hear that some of us are feeling low at the moment & that AF keeps appearing, it's miserable.

How have you found your first day of letrozole, Euro? Do you take it in a similar way to clomid (days 2-6)? I'm pleased to report that I've not had any further side effects from my first month of clomid, though will wait to see if I feel anything when it comes to ovulation (I don't normally, but given the quantities of eggs that will surely be popping, who knows ?) I hope it won't be long before you're able to start it, Izzy, I do feel that it's helped me to feel that I'm actually doing something when so many other months I've felt I've felt hopeless about ttc.

Good news about your follicle Lemon, unpleasant as cameras etc are, it's good to know that someone's seen something's happening.

Good luck with your appointments, Stasi, I hope they go well.

at your screaming DH, Joycep, I hope he didn't injure himself!

Glad you got to talk to someone in rl Nelly. I talked to my mum about ttc for the first time last week & she told me about 3 people she knows who got pregnant with multiple pregancies (1 twins & 2 triplets) before starting on IVF treatment. Needless to say, I assumed that they'd been on clomid or similar .

Wine, happy belated birthday . Loving the sound of crunchie in the rocky road - mmm! I hope it helped.

Hi to everyone else.

Oops, crossed post Pout. at your dogs opening other people's presents.

Hey stasi - I am sure your scan will be fine. What a lot to deal with- I don't know how you cope. I don't think I cope with things very well and not sure how I would have handled cancer. When were you given the all clear?

cakes - totally agree with everything you said.

pout - isn't SWI awful. It feels too pressurised and I find it all a bit forced, I.e pretending I'm really into it when all I want to be doing is reading my book.

pixie - glad you got through clomid ok.

I had a meltdown today, one of those panics we were talking about. I went to the loos and balled my eyes out. DH told me to email my doc about my lack of period So waiting to hear back. But I haven't paid her whopping bill so probably won't hear. I've got it into my head that I am going to hear baby announcements soon from a few friends and I just feel on edge about it. An old school friend texted me for our address and I know she is going to put happy news in her Xmas card. We are hosting a Xmas party at the weekend and I am just dreading it now. Bahhh humbug. God I'm behaving like a weirdo!!

So sorry to hear of AF arrivals for so many of you and with such crappy timing. On the positive side, none of you will have it on Xmas day?! I totally understand how it feels and have regularly done the crying myself to sleep thing ( but trying to hide it from DH).

Am oddly upbeat about it all at the moment. Think it's cos I've accepted it's not going to happen naturally & having a sod it all month (that and the amount of booze I've been consuming!)

My friend who is a stay at home mum of 2 came to stay this weekend. She's totally lovely but so much talk of children. It's quite hard when I'm struggling with not having any! Also found all the kids shops we went in slightly hard too. But then I made her go to the pub for mulled wine

Hope you all feel a little better soon. It is all so horribly unfair, but I'm sure we'll all get there one day. My friend told me that her friend who's been trying for 8 years (including 1 round of failed ivf) and who has just adopted is 16 weeks pregnant!

Pixie Glad to hear that you aren't having any side effects. I hope that continues and you produce super charged eggs.

Joycep Are you feeling better? I feel for you sobbing in the toilets. Your consultant ought to reply to your e-mail seeing as, presumably, she prescribed the medication for this cycle. I know that you know this and don't want to state the obvious or talk bollocks as usual , but if you had an annovulatory cycle it might explain the delayed period.

Despite having avoided the other conception threads for ages, bird brain here decides to kill some time this afternoon whilst waiting for the plumber and have a look through some of the posts. What a dire mistake. Is it me or are the threads either full of women getting upduffed left right and centre OR full of women who take years to get a BFP if at all. I keep reading posts that start off saying how they tried for 2 years and I read on hoping they will say how their miracle BFP finally happened but no, it transpires that they had to have IVF or IUI. God I'm depressed now. None of it bodes well.

Sorry x post with joy. Sorry you are having such a hard time. I really do feel for you. I guess your hormones must be all over the place with the treatment you had, which might explain lack of period? Hope your doctor gets back to you. Big hugs.

I have been thinking a lot about everyone today. My heart goes out to you all, such a tough time for everyone. I know we have said it before but I wish I could win the lottery and get a super duper fertility specialist to solve all our problems. Maybe on some kind of Caribbean spa-like fertility island retreat. I know we don't all know each other in RL but you are such a lovely, kind and supportive group of ladies who will all make wonderful mums, and I think it's time we caught a break. Hopefully the new year will bring some BFPs for us. We really have earned it.

I started spotting today, which means AF tomorrow or Wednesday. Humph. As ever, I knew it was on its way, but couldn't help hoping for a miracle. Bit gutted as the timing of AF means that I was right about the timing of ovulation day, which means we did perfectly timed SWI on ovulation day, a few days after my HSG. And still no BFP. Grump.

Today I got this really strong urge to know WHY we aren't conceiving. Whether it's just sperm problems, or what. I wonder if I'll ever know the answer. It's concerning me that I haven't had the day 3 tests done. My ovarian reserve could be very poor for all I know. I suppose if we go back in Feb and get our referral for IVF, I'll find out the answer sooner or later.

ladygee another upsettingly-timed AF arrival. Commiserations to you too.

joyce sorry about the BFN and that you have been feeling down. I hope you get some joy from your gynae. I think she owes you some more of her time after what happened with your last cycle. I totally know what you mean about being on edge about preg announcements. There is one that I think is imminent and I have a feeling it is going to be accompanied by some patronising comments. Mentally steeling myself. Fingers crossed your party will be a drunken, announcement-free affair.

stasi good luck with your hospital appointments. You seem very balanced and pragmatic about it all. Hope it all goes well, have got my fingers crossed for a distraction-induced BFP for you.

cakes you're so right about Christmas. It's all that looking back and looking forward. We will feel better once we've got over the Christmas 'hump' so to speak. From the sounds of it there will be a lot of humping over Christmas if we're all having our AFs now. Maybe some of us will get drunken Christmas BFPs?

pout at your dogs. They sound fabulous. I do love to hear about everyone's pets. Hope the 'shagging til the bitter end' is going ok for you. I may have to come round and wrestle the internet off you to stop you looking at utterly fucking depressing TTC stories.

pixie that is great you've been fine on the Clomid. I have got everything crossed for you this cycle

gin fancy that, a BFP after a 8 years. Can you imagine what a shock that must have been, lovely though. Glad you are feeling ok, the booze is obviously working I am back on the winter pimms tonight and I have to say, loving it. Trying to chase the AF blues away.

mrsden and wine how are you both today, lovelies?x

Lots of to everyone. We will make it through Christmas! X

Sorry joycep that you've been so upset. I really hope your gynae gets back in touch with you. When I first started ttc (rewind a year, it was xmas when this happened) I had a bad cold and fever and my temps didn't go up until about day 32? I had ewcm at normal ov time, temps didn't go up though and I got ewcm all over again before they did. Maybe your body will finally hatch an egg, or maybe af will come. Either way I hope you get back to cd 1 soon. Or pregnant because you never know. That long cycle month, I was going insane.

pout I hope your period doesn't come. Someone HAS to, by the laws of all averages, conceive on here soon. Lurking on other threads is bad habit of mine. I go everywhere, trying to find some glimpse of my 'future' pr banging my head against a wall reading just how quickly it happens for others. It's like fertilityporn. That sounds bad - but you know what I mean!

Periods dont ever seem to come at opportune moments do they? They never come when I'm just sat around watching telly in my pyjamas. I'm always on holiday, or with pregnant people. Af had the indecency to arrive on the plane to my honeymoon. And three times this year when I've had a pregnancy announcement on the same day. And on this years holiday. And so on. But gin you are right, no af for Christmas Day. I'll just have a tummy full of lap and dye gas. Christmas glamour all the way!

I'm so scared about the lap and dye. How do they get the dye in? And how do they check the tubes? I don't understand. Does it go up through my fanjo?! Because they said it didn't matter if in had my period. Confused.

Stasi I think Xmas is maybe making posts a bit more bittersweet and cakes you are spot on about how this time of year accentuates things that bit more. I really hope your check up goes ok for you and the psychology too. Ttc on top of that is must be a brain ache and I'm rooting for your luck to change. I personally think waiting on the results for the sperms is a good plan. I'm sure it will be fine, but they will still be waiting for you after Xmas? But then, we were eager just to know. But if I knew now that they'd have been a bit iffy, I'd have waited rather than rock up just before dhs birthday.

kitty loving hearing about your boozy tales. I've had more booze in the past two weeks than of late. There is something about Xmas and dark nights that makes me want warming tipples. Not drinking has not got me pregnant. Bt euro I'm still up for the no booze January. Yawn! Sorry af got you too. Good luck with the meds and let us know how it goes.

pixie glad no effects from clomid to speak of. I think I have an irrational fear of clomid so its good to hear how it's going for you. If my tubes are clear, I think that will be the nhs suggestion next. I have actually started talking to my fallopian tubes, willing them to be healthy and open. Oh dear.

Sorry to hear about yantra pain! I love love love mine and am totally addicted, it doesnt hurt me too much but lying on my tummy I have to watch my nips. Ouch.

Lets all sod ttc and swi for Xmas. 2012 will be our two line year. I'm so glad to have met you all.

Loves to anyone I've missed x

X post kitty with your lovely message. I very much am in board for a spa like fertility island . sorry to hear about spotting. I'm still MEGA grumpy on cd3, v unusual. Im really peeved that I can't try for another month I think. The lap is about two days before I ovulate and I think sex is off the cards for a bit after. What a waste of a christmas egg! What if it was THE golden egg?!turkey baster? It would be seasonal at least. I too wonder WHAT the prob is. I suspect we are both a bit subfertile, as my fsh was fair and not good and im still about the morphology. What are you reading? I'm nearly finished purple hibiscus, which I'm enjoying but ready for a new read now.

wine sorry you are feeling worried about the lap. It's really bad timing having it just before Christmas isn't it. The dread of waiting for these things is awful but you will be so relieved once it's over, it'll be a huge weight off your shoulders. And try not to worry about missing the golden egg. There's plenty more where that came from.

I'm reading snowdrops, the new mumsnet book of the month. It is an enjoyable, well written and intriguing thriller type thing. However, it is one of those where a middle aged man gets it on with a much younger, hotter woman who is strangely incredibly attracted to him [yawn]. I might ask the author where he gets his ideas from

I've read the purple hibiscus, but ages ago. It's a bit upsetting isn't it? There is some peripheral stuff in snowdrops about infertility. Not a lot but enough to make me a bit . still you can't go around screening all popular culture for any mention of children, families or infertility can you even though I would dearly like to

Evening ladies.

I popped my first Letrozole tablet tonight. Only a couple of hours ago though, so no side effects yet. You do take it the same way as Clomid - on days 2 to 6. Unless the drugs mess with my timing, I am due to lay a Christmas egg - sometimes between Xmas Eve and Boxing Day, when we have loads of guests, ARGH.

I have my immunology (and other) results now. I'm all clear for blood clotting issues and my AMH is a little low but not unexpectedly so for my age. However I do have high numbers of NK cells so when I hit ov I will be starting steroids to try to help that. I normally hate taking drugs but I am currently willing to give anything a go. I feel fairly positive. At least we have a potential explanation now after the dispiriting "unexplained infertility" diagnosis. Now I just have to hope that the steroids work their magic.

Purple Hibiscus is upsetting. I'm not quite sure how it will end. I've spent the past HOUR reading about laps and dyes. Of course the dye goes up through the cervix!! But the pre op lady said it didn't matter if you had your period, which surely it would? I don't know why I'm getting in such a tizz. I did exactly the same for the hsg. I actually made myself sick! I'm worried they might find blocked tubes. But bring on knowing one way or another. I'm not very brave in the run up to these things but manage to get stoical on the day. I had an op on my boob in my twenties for a big lump (scary times) and that was better than I thought. The GA did make me very weepy though. Oh good!

Cross post euro glad the pills ok so far... And that you have an indication of something that you can be supported with. We are going for immune tests next year as I've suspected this for a while with allergies etc. Did they suggest that this might be where the problem lies? Is it pred? I've had to take that in the past after anaphylactic reactions. It made me feel quite nice actually.

On phone as Internet playing up. So just wanted to say Fuxake to all the other ERTDs . Where the fuckity bugger is a BFP for someone?

But Kitty I love a bit of caribbean do I'm there! And wine the but in your post about bring glad we all "met" made me well up a bit. pout I'm with you on being so angry about not starting TTC earlier. It was my OH who stalled too - but he had his reasons and I respect them even though I sometimes could have throttled him for them

Good luck with the drugs euro. What is/are NK?

Must go to bed as it's shag week. Tumblewomb definitely rumbling into action. Managed Fri, Sat, Sun so far. OH announced last night he had to go to London on Wed night this week. I told him to cancel . Luckily he understood, albeit not sure how he'll explain to his boss

Must go, phone driving me nuts. Christmas cocktails to all

Wine I've had a lap (without the dye I think as it wasn't ttc related) and it was fine. Take loose clothes to wear afterwards as you will be bloated and take things very easy for a few days. There is no way that you will be shagging for a few days afterwards (it is abdominal surgery after all and you will feel a bit bruised and battered) so just take this month off and enjoy Xmas.

The steroids are indeed Pred. I've never taken any steroid before so have no idea how it might affect me.

Nelly NK = natural killer cells. They are part of your immune system. There is a school of thought that thinks that if the become overactive they can attack and embryo or foetus as a foreign body. But it is quite a controversial area. The NHS won't support it and the HFEA has some fairly derogatory comments on its website about immunology testing but I read up and felt it was something I wanted to do before trying IVF. As I see it, there is no point in pumping myself full of drugs and paying a lab £5k to create an embryo and put it in me only for my body to reject it if my body is making embryos and rejecting them all by itself. It was something I wanted to pursue after the diagnosis of "unexplained infertility" which is basically the NHS saying there is a reason we are not PG but they just don't know what it is based on the tests they run.

Morning,

I have to go to a meeting so this is a very quick post to see if anyone has looked at the daily mail this morning and seen the photos of Chantelle? In the article she says that she only had a 1% chance of getting pregnant naturally . Her bump looks huge. Also, I read the Amanda Platell article about being childless at Christmas and it really struck a chord even though I can't stand her. sorry, for the rushed post. I have to go now but I'll come back later and comment on all your posts, xx

wine I meant to say last night, try not to worry too much about having blocked tubes. I had two of the risk factors and the consultant made it clear he thought it could be an issue for me, I was so so worried. But the dye went straight through. My acu lady said she's only had one patient with it, so I think it must be fairly uncommon. also snap with the boob op story. I had a big lump (which turned out to be a fatty cyst) out when I was 17. I was terrified but it was fine. I think they take good care of you when you go in for an operation.

euro great news about a possible explanation and solution. So pleased you are getting some answers

Hope everyone has a good day. ERTD is lurking here! Wish it'd hurry up and get on with it

Morning ladies, hope that everyone is well.
Firstly kitty and wine your posts were lovely and made me well up a bit all warm and fluffy. I agree that you are all such a lovely bunch of ladies and have definitely kept me going on this journey.
kitty Count me in for the Caribbean island meet up, though I would pity our fellow islanders who would be subjected to the inevitable talk of EWCM, frequency of SWI and general floof talk

I'm sorry that you are spotting. I hate flippin' spotting and see it as AF tormenting me a bit more because obviously I can't accept that it is over and start daydreaming about breakthrough bleeding etc.. I felt gutted after my HSG when I got no BFP for the subsequent three months. I was convinced that the HSG would've "sorted" it. Ditto about wanting to know what the problem with conceiving is. I reckon it might make it easier to come to terms with things and might also help me mentally thinking I'm waging a war against my useless body.

wine I'm sorry that you are worrying about your lap and dye. It must be daunting but hopefully, if there is any justice, it will be the thing that gives your baby making efforts the push it needs. I have to say I must be a nutter because all I want for Christmas is a lap and dye hums this along to the Mariah Carey tune (and a kitchen bin).
You are right about inopportune AF arrivals. She truly is a bitch and as I have tipped further into insanity over the last few months I actually feel like AF is more like a real person with a vendetta against me and enjoys dreaming up new ways to torture me.

Euro I am fascinated by your immunology results. I researched NK cells and was convinced that this was my problem. It's good news that you are feeling more positive. Surely this must get you a BFP!

Nelly Giggles at your tumblewomb I think that I need to take a leaf out of your book and try to respect DP's reasons for stalling on the baby front. I just find that when I think about TTC I can't help but think that delaying it was a massive mistake and then other baggage from the past comes into the equation too and the guilt associated with that. Maybe I am deflecting the anger I have for myself onto him. Anyway enough with the self indulgent navel gazing..

kitty Yes we are still SWI'ing - unfortunately. Mustering up the will is getting harder. We are at that slip off one pyjama leg stage and pray for an efficient ending. To be fair I did turn on the bedside lamp because I don't want DP to think I'm boring in bed

All you lovely ladies with boob pain after ovulation and who are still temping or OPK sticking, can I throw out a question to you? Does your boob pain start as soon as ovulation has happened or can it be before the egg has dropped? I ask because I have boob pain and desperately want to believe that I can ease off on the bloody SWI thing now.

Morning lovely ladies!

Agree with welling-up over lovely posts :) and pleased I am not the only one.

We had a bit of a traumatic weekend, as the bit of post-SWI bleeding became a veritable flood on Sunday and now I have been advised by the people supposedly fixing me to let off the SWI for a few days (read: until that egg that is making it presence known through copious amounts of ECM, streaked with brown due to the badly executed smear, is well and truly gone). GRRR and DH is well up for it, of course, now!

So my AF is due between Christmas and New Year. I am guestimating today in two weeks. Joy.

Oh, I am in for the carribean island. And pleased for those moving forward (euro). Belated happy birthday, wine. Waves for all the lovely ladies, this a is a sneaky from work post.

Oh and a cuddle for the dogs and a big kitchen bin for pout (sorry, I am as ineffective at the baby making as you are )