We are all jolly well going to smack the rat this month and grow a baby and we'll brook no argument. And probably eat some cake too.

[Imps7]

Ladies....begin.

its these biscuits

How long till you think you can escape there? I get the feeling it could be a bide your time and do enough to be able to get a reference from them in the future kind of thing. Are you still meeting with your old boss re the possible new job?

Merci Ninja xx

Here endeth the nappy part of proceedings. Apologies again for such blatant hijacking

now how about critiqueing the blender I linked to earlier?

Oooh yes, sorry - I totally derailed things!! I have a similar sort of thing to that - and I quite like it, but mostly use it for blending soups etc or making smoothies. Mine is a Braun one though. I also have one like this or maybe this or something in between and I use that more for chopping etc and have made cakes etc in it too. I find the Braun one I have not much good for cake making etc. although it does have a whisk attachment, but I rarely use a lot of the attachments .

However, for my birthday I just got something a bit like this (although it is silver all over, not almond on top). That's for cake making, but is still in the box as haven't had a chance to get it out!!

Morning all! I am in work super early, as I have a stupid experiment to do. It is of course because I am dedicated and love science.

Ninja lovely. I have a similar one, though I only use it for soup. I am secretly hoping DH Fater Crimbo brings me one of these
www.kitchenaid.co.uk/app.cnt/ka/en_GB/pageid/pgkaproddetail001/catid/7/subcatid/35

Thanks all for the lovely Otis-related comments. He is cute. Especially when asleep.

Biscuits how are you? Loving what you did there, actually the type of joke I would whip out

Imps my lovely How the devil are you?

Solars you definitely need new shoes. We are in Essex remember (well, I am anyway)

at my above mention of Fater Crimbo. That's what getting up at 4 with a temperature will do to you

Morning!

I often get sad at how Father Christmas appears to have become Santa everywhere. Father Christmas is a much nicer name than Santa. Even I call him Santa when I'm not thinking properly and it upsets me. I may start a MN Campaign to get him re-branded as Father Christmas throughout the UK.

Maybe what kind of experiment possibly needs to be done so early in the morning??? Surely nothing is that important?! How are you getting on with your temping these days? The fanjometer still working out for you?

Popcorn what gives with the CM today?? If you're still getting fertile CM, I think there's every chance you're still fertile. Fertility Friend doesn't always pinpoint OV correctly. Keep on shagging!

I'm on day 11 today - still another week until OV - feels like AAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEESSSS since my last 2ww ended. I think we're really going to struggle with the SWI this month - OH is constantly exhausted and I am panicking about work - doesn't make for a good shagging combination.

Right, I'm off to have an early morning bath to try to relax a bit. I fear that I might become very very boring with my work moans for the next 4 months

Imps you never bore

We are looking at circadian rhythms in pain at the moment, which means I get to get up at stupid o clock! Don't worry though, I am taking tomorrow off

The fanjometer is being out on the back burner till at least next cycle. Otis doesn't seem to understand why I can't jump out of bed immediately in the morning and tend to his every need (sounds like DH) do I am waiting until he is a bit more relaxed in the mornings!

Hope you enjoy your bath. The thought of a bath and a glass of red when I get home is all that is keeping me sane today

I also get annoyed with the use of Santa too. And it really bugs me when people right Xmas

www.conceiveonline.com/articles/stressed-out-about-fertility-start-laughing

Not very funny at all.

I'm already on the Lindt 90% lady Brookers. Oh dear.

Can't keep up with you all. Thanks Solars for the funny DP / SA stories. I can just imagine his joy at good results. Rooftops and shouting?

Also laughing at jism in cups.

Here's that [http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1338278 not so funny article] again. Sorry.

Put the odd pic up of our bean.

Argh not so funny article

Popcorn excellent seduction, bravo!

Maybe nice to see you back and Otis is v v v cute!

Imps so sorry re redundancy (or lack thereof). When could you start your new job working for your old employer? I hope you manage to sort it out very soon - work stress is not nice.

I listened to Ninja and Biscuits' potty training chat with interest as DD is approaching that stage. Last weekend she did two poos on the potty (who knew I would one day be so excited about such a thing?). May have to find out about these potty training pull ups - presumably they let them feel a bit wet so they become more aware of when they need to go?

I am now 11dpo. I felt a bit crampy and PMT-like yesterday, but as we all know, that could go either way. I allowed myself a brief fantasy this morning about being pregnant and having had an 8 week scan before Christmas - sigh.

Good luck to all approaching testing. Scrambled and Little I hope AF stays away for you two - we are pretty much cycle buddies I think and we are due for another holy trinity of BFPs and I will Brook. No. Argument.

Aw Bean nice pics!

Hi Generic - feeling just like you. Bit crampy. But still 6 days until AF due. Hate these feelings. Nice fantasy though. (Thanks - re pics .) Really got everything crossed that your fantasy will come true.

Loving Maybe's mutt doggles - couldn't live without a doglet around our house though still unimpressed by mouse catching skills, or lack of.

Potty training strikes me with fear. But I do enjoy the look of concentration and mild pleasure when I notice DS laying one down in his nappy. Sorry TMI!

Pop that's excellent news and extremely promising IN DEED. (See what I did there?) Pre-Chrimbo BFP coming up.

Oh imps sorry you were not selected, can you leave anyway and join your former boss? I can imagine it creates a terrible atmosphere especially after your run ins with the partners!!

popcorn, excellent seduction techniquesm, well done!
jazzy what is this fertiltiy aid of which you speak? Is it a vitamin??
generic sounds very promising indeed, are you holding off on testing like a good girl?

Good rat smacking Popcorn I think we will be due our BFPs together now?!

I totally smacked that rat on Tuesday after my positive OPK. Am still keeping up the loving for a bit just in case. We had managed to dtd 3 days out of 5 in the run up too so I'm very hopeful this month.

Imps sorry you didn't get selected for redundancy just keep focusing on escaping! I know how pants it is when work is unbearable. I'm totally hating my job this past few weeks. Winter is always really busy at my work. We are so short staffed it's awful.

Maybe welcome back! Glad to hear little Otis is keeping you on your toes. I'm cuddling my doggy right now. Im going to try to put some photos of her on my profile.

Generic I'm loving the fantasies. I keep imagining a early scan photo for Christmas too! I'm also a little jealous of the potty training conversation I WANT A BABY!!!

Ninja I really like the look of your blender especially the masher attachment too - GET IT, GET IT! I have a Dualit one bought many moons ago, which is great apart from the fact that the blender attachment can be a bit temperamental now and I don't use the mini chopper part as I still have a very old one that I bought when I went to uni yes I cooked whilst at uni It was really cheap and still works 20 years on!! I feel a 'they don't make them like they used to' comment coming on...

Imps oh no!! Are you still resigning? Can you take a voluntary redundancy? I take it you'll have a long notice period, how annoying!

Popcorn glad you got to relax last night and well done on your seduction technique

Very impressed Cupcakes I have high hopes for you this month and you too Generic, visualising should help get that bfp! My reflexologist used to tell me to put my hand on tummy and visualise...

Maybe it seems way to early to even say the words circadian rhythm!

Hope everyone is well x

Morning all, temps still quite high today, and I'm 12DPO I think. Longest ever LP was 13, so I'm expecting AF tomorrow. I still find that I want to test before AF is due, it feels like I'm somehow more likely to get a BFP if I don't wait for AF. It's complicated and completely nuts, but I'm so certain my AF will always come, that I want the BFP to show her when she turns up that she's not allowed to, and should go away again. Silly huh?

I got v. unreasonably annoyed at my electric toothbrush running out of batteries last night - wanted to throw the stupid thing across the room. So, maybe a little PMT too [embarassed].

Popcorn very impressed at your seduction methods, and success. I wonder though, did you actually get up early this morning to tidy up? I always find the 'up early' very hard to follow through on. Though will occasionally manage it for a morning SWI quickie after missing the night before. Also, grats on the ovulating finally, though I hope it won't make this cycle too long and stressful.

Imps it's seems strange to offer condolences on not getting made redundant, but I can understand you wanting to get out of there. Sounds like it's become a very hostile work environment. I hope somehow work becomes less stressful, perhaps over the next week until ov things will settle down and you'll be able to relax and go with the flow a bit?

Maybe Otis is very cute. DH and I saw a couple of West Highland Terriers while we were out walking, one of which was a puppy. So adorable. I just can't convince DH that he wants a dog though.

Bean nice pics :)

oops, I meant to spell check that.. and check the icons, now .

I'm always really worried the smilies won't work, because they don't always show up when I do 'preview message'. Fingers crossed.

They're all working now! Grumble, I like consistency, not randomness!

Ninja I also approve of your choice

Bean lovely photos! Your little boy is gorgeous x

Stasi I totally get that, I sometimes regret not testing before AF turns up which makes absolutely no sense.

I've finally figured out how to put up a picture of my doggy I think anyway

Stasi - Hoping all the VERY best for you this month. A BFP so close now... Very hopeful for Cupcakes too (and wanna see dog pics). My you girls have been working up a sweat in the bedroom (almost typed badroom there!) - GOOD work.

Imps - Sooooo annoying. Big fat redundancy is what you needed. What next? Has to be a BFP instead. Then they can pay for your ML and you can resign when babster is 9 months old.

Solars - where you at in your cycle

Thanks Cupcakes - can't help being desperately proud of my little mucker. Perhaps one of the conditions of becoming a mum in my vintage years? So much in life pales in comparison... Poor old DP seems to have become part of the furniture already and we've only been together 3 years BF...