Brooking No Argument for Positive Pee Sticks, Healthy Pregnancies and Home-made Cakes!!!

[Stasi]

Here we go yet again...

WOW thanks everyone for the warm welcome and im loving the fact i have chosen to join the best thread, fx af has still not arrived and im on cd 30 i got my earlier figures wrong checked my book last night and im 11dpo dohhhhh AF would of normally arrived yesterday so im still fx but not obsessing so gonna wait till end of week before i even get my hopes up lol lol

Im looking through thread so hope to pick up bits of whats happening on here lol :)

DH has called the Dr today and made an appointment for nxt week for us to get a sperm analysis just incase af dont stay away :(

fx indeed jazzy

Bean! Welcome and many happy returns for tomorrow I am afraid I know nothing about sperm, well, you know, apart from the obvious!

Popcorn get the 30 day shred. Very good. Though I can't see how I am ever going to be able to prance around my lounge without having my ankles bitten or, go for a nice run outside. Can't beat it

Solars was it you who stole my buttons? I am resisting any urges to POAS. Though I did just bawl my eyes out at some helicopter rescue program

Ah, Jazzy I am keeping everything crossed for you

Hi Bean - lovely to meet you. I suspect you're the first person who I'll have discussed my DH's sperm with in the first 'meeting'

I'm nipping in from the grads thread, but have read your earlier post. I would say re your dh's sperm it can't hurt to take a conception vitamin for him. We have ds who is 3 now. We got pg with him the third month of trying. Prior to that we'd got pg the second mth of trying but sadly had a m/c. So we weren't really anticipating any delays this time round. We started ttc no 2 when ds was 15 mths and it took us 19 mths!

Now, after a year we were referred to the fertility clinic, with the 'standard' tests. My blood tests came back ok but dh's SA showed reduced motility (whereas I assume there were no issue before? We'll never know as he wasn't checked before). Anyway, in due course the fertility clinic did a repeat SA for DH, which was about 3 mths after the first. During this time he had given up pepsi and started taking wellman conception (already didn't smoke at all, or drink v much). And his second SA was normal.

At the sane time as that the fertility clinic sent me for a HSG which didn't show any probs but you never really know if has cleared a bit of muck out.

We got pg the month after the HSG, but also within 3 mths of dh's improved SA.

Now we'll never know what the real cause was. Maybe it was the sperm, or a blockage subsequently cleared by the HSG, or a combination of both. Or maybe his first SA was just 'unlucky' as they often say you can't rely on one sample, and there wasn't really a problem there in the first place?

So quite possibly for your DH there won't be a problem, but I think it can't harm to try a male conception vit to give everything a helping hand if it is taking longer than expected.

We used the wellman conception one (well we actually bought the pregnacare his and hers but it's the same thing) but I know lots of people gave looked at just certain components if it and I'm sure someone who who knows more can advise on that.

Hope that helps anyway xx

Hello! Maybe JUST PIAR!!! WOMAN UP!!!

I think you should show your DP that site, far. Might concentrate his mind on the job in hand . I think someone I know vaguely may have had an arrangement re: sperm. Could well have been off the internet. Baby's absolutely gorgeous.

Biscuits, you poor love. Keep hydrated and get loads of rest. Get well soon xx

I know I've missed people, sorry, but I'm exhausted. DD woke me at 3am with screams of 'MUMMY'. Of course I ran in, terrified she was being attacked by ravening zombies only to find... she was bored and wanted to play. Seriously, I have never been less amused by my toddler holding up her toy dog in my face and saying woof. And then I couldn't get back to sleep again as I was so adrenalised.

Re: mooncups. Yes, you do have to empty them out into the toilet and either wash or wipe them. However, it's surprisingly non-yucky. I've been using it for a couple of days now and find it much more comfortable than tampons, which I had a major problem with after DD remodelled the place on her way out. If you've got any questions you can ask the experts who've been really helpful on the thread

Hi Biscuits

Thanks so much for your frank and full help: v much appreciated indeed (and congrats on getting there after a long wait for pg2). It sounds like a team effort for improvements which led to eventual pg2. (Bless our boys - if they knew we were online doing virtual semen analysis what would they think?!)

The good news is that DP agreed to take some vits about a month or two ago (he's v lovely but not always enjoying the frantic broody moi). The sad news is I'll never get him off his generous 1-2 every night - having said that he doesn't get properly sloshed (well hardly ever), doesn't smoke, has a good diet and cycles to work most days, though I do wonder whether I should be putting cotton wool round his saddle... : ) He's also a very laid back sort and in general doesn't strike me as a likely candidate for probs. I really can't see him going to the docs to give a sample so am keeping myself in check for now.

You have given me hope that it is worth plodding on - sometimes I just want to give up, throw in the towel and take up handgliding (well, maybe not) but you know what I mean.

x

Ah sounds like your DH is pretty much on board then Bean.

I should say though, from what I've seen if you go to the docs, the standard tests are day 2 (or 3?) and day 21 bloods for you and a SA for him. You'd probably need that before you could get referred to a fertility clinic. Even if the referral is just for further investigations (we knew we'd never get treatment on the NHS because of already having ds).

Yes, it does seem like a struggle doesn't it! It us such a rollercoaster too .

BUT you're on the brooking thread now (this is the other important factor in our story - I got my bfp the month I joined this thread ) so it is all going to happen!

And yes I think my DH would pale a little if he knew what I shared on here.....

Have to say that I've tried all sorts of reverse psychology to "trick" the plumbing into a pg, so won't count on joining this thread as a guarantee but like the idea all the same.

So glad you got there. You're right, it will happen.

Let's see about SA for DP; you never know he might come round. I'll chat with the doc about me for now and see what tests I can wrangle from dear old NHS and go from there. I feel like the NHS owes me anyway: I had an indie midwife for DS and so barely saw a doc for the entire pg/birth. Plus all that tax/NI I've thrown at them all these years of not having a family.

Bless your DH; he sounds top-notch. :o

Oh dear biscuits excuse the unintentional pun about my DH "coming round" to SA...

Oh, and just one more thought Bean but you mentioned your dh cycles a lot. One of the things they say about is wearing boxers instead of briefs and not letting things get too hot down there. I don't know if that would mean that cycling in cycle shorts sort of thing could have an impact?

re the coming round thing

Bean our poor DHs, they don't know the half of it!

My GP referred me for my day 3 bloods (suspected PCOS but came back fine) and said that they would only carry out further investigations after a SA for DH, I think it is just NHS policy, plus it saves you from the more invasive tests if they aren't necessary. Also, your DP would just have to, ahem, 'do' his sample at home and drop it into the surgery (at my GP anyway). Hope that helps a little.

But as dear Biscuits has said, this thread has indeed proved lucky for some, and will eventually be lucky for us all

biscuits Loving the care and attention showered on DP's precious jewels. It has crossed my mind, but he's a boxers-only man, has showers and doesn't cycle huge distances (or wear sticky lycra - heaven forbid says he who is strictly a cords and tweed kinda fella), so fx he's not boiling his bits.

Ah super news Bean

All sounds very wise.

Now I'm wondering if your DH is a geography teacher though with his cords? Not sure why because my DH would love some nice smart casual cords but can't find anywhere that sells them in a 36, or pref 38 leg, and he's not a teacher of any sort

maybebaby - yes Lady Luck may not be typing as we do but I feel she's hovering nearby. Ah well, then I will tell DP that we should both go for it, but I don't think I'll manage anything this side of Christmas. Poor bloke has just organised all sorts of loveliness for my 40th so I feel he deserves a little rest from my baby-gurning (other than biz as usual in the hay of course).

Erm, what does 'fx' mean?

bean my DH cycles too, and doesn't do the lycra thing either. Cotton boxers all the way now. It sounds like your DP is pretty healthy anyway. Good luck!

Have been reading up about Vitamin B6. Apparently you can take up to 100mg quite safely. I'm on 50mg but was wondering whether I should up the dosage, as my LP was so ridiculously short. The website I was on also said that Clomid is often prescribed for short luteal phases as it helps to regulate them. Now than I did not know.

Hi everyone,

Been reading since lunch, but trying to do work and not post. Failing!

My doctor was happy to order my day 3 and 21 tests before my DP had been in to the doctors to ask about SA. Though this may have been because I told her he'd be coming in the next day. Perhaps a little white lie would serve? However if you want referral on to a specialist there are a number of check boxes they need to tick. So your DH not willing to do his part might hinder that. There are options though, you can do the sample at home, but also, if he's really stubborn, they can give you a special condom to collect the sample in, so you have sex as normal with it, but keep the condom and hand that in for analysis. I think that's mostly for religious objections, but perhaps threatening him with the thought of going to the doc and asking for one would help get him to agree to a pot at home? I'm sure you can get the pot and form from your doc without him having to go in. You could also drop the sample off at the clinic when done. I think with men it's just a very personal and embarrassing thing to go through.

I had a word with my DP this morning about his SA. He was wanting to do it on Thurs, but I'm worried it'll be too close to ovulation, and really don't want to miss out this month. So, while stark naked just before getting in the shower, I 'booked' him for SWI tonight and Thurs night, and suggested we do the sample another time. Breakfast ambush worked :)

The things we do for babies...

fx means 'fingers crossed' I think.

No idea on B6 or clomid and short LPs though :(

LOL biscuits - I think DP has geography teacher leanings but in fact knows an awful lot about fish (in a Hugh F Whittingstall kinda way - saving them from the treacherous supertanker trawlers etc). Which works with the outfit, I do believe.

So it's a good pair of cords for Christmas for your DH. Recommend retro stores, but should I gather from those measurements that extra-long legs may be an issue? I guess we humans were all a bit shorter in the late 70s...

You could go cords with an ankle cuff - my DS has two smashing pairs from HnM!

x

Sorry, been awol for a bit - rl getting in the way!

Maybe ooh your pup is gorgeous. I miss my dog - I had to give her away due to circumstances. She now lives beside the seaside and is very happy and I do get updates from her new owner. You are soooo preggo by the way. PIAR please. Tomorrow?

Imps hope your meeting goes well. I'm starting Christmas meal and booze planning too - hurrah! We are having everyone to ours this year, which I am thrilled about because it means no travelling and lovely food made by me!

Munkii I am brooking for you.

Farfalla where do you work and can I come and work there? Everyone is pregnant! Hope you are doing OK. Sorry about DH's issues appearing again. I hope things happen tonight. I know what you mean about looking too obvious and getting him even more nervous, but sometime the simple approach is all that is needed eg getting changed in front of him - just hope that he doesn't start thinking 'eh up she must be ovulating' and getting all worried.

Jazzy and Bean hello and congratulations on your as yet unconfirmed pregnancies.

Biscuits sorry you are poorly sick.

Agree re over-use of 'mummy'. We do refer to ourselves as mummy and daddy at home for the benefit of DD, but she has been known to call us 'babe' or 'darling' if she's heard us say that to each other

Solars I really do hope the clomid does it for you.

Popcorn I recommend 30 Day Shred too. Hard but only 20 min per day and She Gets Results!

It's cd 6 for me and the egg whites were in town yesterday (weirdly early) so we've started the SWI. I hope I will ov early this cycle as I'm away from Sat to Wed with work and there's a good chance I will ov while away so I may be needing some of this Nordic sperm off the Internet...

Hmmm, yes, his legs are indeed the issue! He gets jeans from either Gap or Levis and they're long enough (I think he gets a 36) but with smart casual trousers very few places sell them in a 36. Even Gap don't in the UK (but they do in the US). Also, because of the fit of trousers being a bit tighter than his jeans even some 36's don't fit properly unless he never puts anything in his pockets, which isn't entirely practical. So we really struggle to find smart casual trousers.

Suits are fine from TM Lewin as they sell them unfinished at the bottom and measure them to you exactly and then sew them up for you when you order. So that works well.

Hi all, and welcome newbies.

just a quick one - Scrambled I am also in the ridiculously short lp club and taking 50mg b6. Am thinking of upping it to 100mg if no bfp by new year. It is good to know clomid could help, but I can't bear the thought of any medical intervention yet (apart from tests). Keep me updated if you have any luck with anything & i'll let you know if I try anything new!

Hi scrambled

Not sure about Vit B6 either sorry. Would have thought Clomid would have some impact. The acupuncturists all reckon they can help with this but depends on whether you're a believer.

Stasi - well done on resisting the thread. A proper worker. Yes - the things we do indeed. Ambush, cajole and plot - just a few of the tools in our box. Very helpful to know different options for SA. I will certainly suggest to the doc that he'll be up for the test and go from there. I didn't expect him to take the vits but he is doing it for me. He's very happy with DS and isn't actually terribly keen on one more. Feeling his age a little I do believe. But he says he doesn't want to disappoint me and we shouldn't stop trying. What a sweetheart. Don't like ramraiding him into more babies. Our first came along so fast he'd barely got used to being my beau... (though we've known each other for 25 years, we were a bit slow to realise we were meant for lurve).

Anyway - good luck for SWI (am guessing what that one means) and hope it's fun too. Yes, FUN. Fingers and toes and what all else crossed for you.

x

Can you really get egg whites at CD6? Gosh, I didn't have a clue... Not v confident about the CM checking. The plumbing feels quite different since DS had fun at the fair down there. Half the time I wonder where my cervix is hiding, but I gather that it's meant to be a bit shy at the wrong time of the month...

biscuits sounds like you'll have to talk to one of the buyers at TM Lewin. Cords are definitely it, and they need to stock em.