CLOMID first timer....

[cheekycurls]

I can't seem to find any clomid threads that are active, so thought I would start this one.

Currently just finished taking my last tablet (50mg) on my first month of clomid, I'm very excited & nervous at the same time.

So many things going on in my head, no one to really talk to, symptoms are a bitch (but must mean something is working if I have symptoms yeah?!)

has anyone taken clomid without being monitored? My consultant isn't going to scan me to check on follicles, I just have to go back to see her in 3 weeks (not sure what for?)

Really hoping this works!

But if anyone wants to join me on a clomid ride, share info or success stories, feel free to......

Hello, I thought I would chip in again if that's ok?

Meluv glad your still smiling, I think you did the right thing resting today! Sounds like bliss.

Honestly this is the BEST thread, with the nicest and most helpful people it's so lovely that there's somewhere we can talk to each other as we go through pretty much the same thing. I've been chuckling away at the bed rocking and sex maniac comments, I think DH thinks I've finally lost my marbles.

Ces I really do feel for you, I've had to react 'appropriately' to 4 of my friends announcing their pregnancies within the last 6 months and although I'm happy for them it certainly seems to get harder - it will be your time soon! However I really enjoyed reading your post this morning re your step daughters, so lovely!

I went for my scan to see how my follicles were 'getting on' after being 12mm on Tuesday (cd11), 1 is 14mm and 1 is 16mm, so the nurse was hopeful that I'm in with a chance of ovulating - bring on the 'bed rockin' feeling positive (for a change) but trying to keep it controlled as I know I've got a long way to go yet.

oh great....must now reply to the text I just received from friend no.5 telling me she's pregnant!

CES, sorry you feel shitty about people being careful around you. But let's be honest..we do hate hearing of yet another couple celebrating their pregnancy. I fucking want to stab them, if I'm being honest. I categorically am not happy for them - I am jealous and hurt and frustrated. Good friends know this and they want to make us feel better, not worse. So, bury your annoyance about people walking on eggshells around you - it is because you are respected and loved. My hat is off to you, CES, for not only coping with and tolerating someone else's brats in your life, but also loving them. My DP has a seven year-old boy from his previous relationship. His mother was 45 when she conceived and gave birth to him, her only child. She is Spanish and, despite having lived in this country for fifteen years, can barely speak a fucking word of English. She is evrything you imagine a middle-aged Spanish woman to be: hysterically dramatic, anooyingly loud and verbose, hand-wringing, fish wifey and one of the most money-obsessed and prolific benefits scroungers you could ever imagine to meet.

Her child is a freak. I am not ashamed to say that if I never saw him again until the day I died it would be too soon. He still co-sleeps (at the age of seven) with his besotted mother and wears a nappy still at night (and happily fills them - along with his underpants at odd times during the day - with shit). I suspect he is on the autism spectrum and told DP as much. His mother is now obsessed with her son being at the most extreme end of the spectrum and refuses to discipline his shocking behaviour (which his school is absolutely sick of). He attacks children & teachers, refuses to share, shits in the swimming pool or at Rascal's and is generally a little twat. I am far less tolerant of him because he is his mother's son. She is deranged and the child is clearly learning some of his behaviours from her.

Sorry to bore you all with that but it feels great to get it off my chest. How lovely, CES, that you feel such love for your DP's little ones

Summer, well done for going to the gym (hateful little places). I did an hour of spinning earlier and boy, do I feel invigorated! I almost cleaned the bathroom

Meluv and Rosie! I hadn't noticed there was a page 31! Sorry. Meluv I am so glad you had today off work, you must be pretty sore. Here, have these biscuits I made them myself and if you look closely I have spelled Meluv on the top in jam.

Rosie, I'm glad you like this thread, I think it's brill. It is a very caring thread and really informative, I think Those follicles of yours sure do sound promising - best of luck. I was thinking before how utterly weird I was actually wishing I was younger with PCOS, like most of you, rather than having working ovaries but being 41 with shit eggs, like me. There's always someone else we would rather be, isn't there? Even though their issues are as serious to them as yours are to you, it's so easy, still, to wish you could swap with them

Rosie, chip in whenever you like!
Yes, this is a wonderful thread...supportive and hilarious in turns!
So glad those follies are growing nicely, time to get bed rocking indeed. It is so hard with friends' pregnancies...nothing for it really but to express congratulations and then stay out of their way. Golden is spot on, as always - it hurts terribly. I actually find it impossible to feel happy for friends who fall pregnant accidentally, I am a bit better about those who have been trying for a while. I don't know anyone else in 'real life' who's had proper difficulties conceiving. I feel like shit about it but that's the reality of this situation.

Golden...your DP's son does indeed sound like he needs some professional help. Guess he's not going to get it though - I'm surprised the school hasn't intervened and insisted on it. I know because of who he is you don't feel this way, but geez, poor kid. What kind of life will he have?

Anyway - going to try to get some sleep now, at the hospital first thing tomorrow so they can suction some blood out of me (is anyone else finding their veins are getting harder and harder? They used to get blood out of me in a heartbeat, now there's always lots of arm tapping and fist clenching and poking around... makes me feel a bit queasy just thinking about it)

Summer, the boy definitely does need help and his school have bent over backwards to get him properly assessed in the hope of getting him statemented. I have to say he is a beautiful little boy and it is to my shame that I have developed such a vicarious dislike of him as a product of his monstrously intolerable mother.

I am sending you lots of positive vibes for tomorrow. Best of luck, my love x

Cant sleep! I'm too hot (never hot, alway too cold)

Golden I love your honesty and you certainly have a way with words you poor thing having to deal with such a challenging pair! Glad you feel better for saying it though, I've learnt how a good rant or cry can actually help so much recently! I tend to bottle things up rather than talk about things. Ahhh, I think it's only natural to have 'grass is greener' thoughts when you want something as badly as we all do! A friend told me the other day that she knows someone who had been ttc for years and had totally given up, but fell pregnant, due any day and she's in her 40's. Positive thoughts sending your way! I do know a few people who aren't pregnant although it doesn't sound like it - honestly

Thanks Summer I'm keeping my fingers crossed but dreading the disappointment when it's not successful I was ready for this announcement (had been told by another friend) so I've been waiting for the news directly from her. Apparently she said 'I think I'm happy' that's the part that sticks in my throat, I expect you can all relate! Anyway good luck for tomorrow, hope there's not to much arm tapping needed!

golden them biscuits were gorge luv I agree with summer that poor child does need help bless him and it sounds like his behaviour is mostly down to his mother if that's what she can call herself letting a son behave like that what a fucking disgrace she is not surprised you feel the way you do luv X rosie those lil grapes do sound promising luv big hugs summer I too have got the blood suckers today lovely an like you I hate it am like a kid I have to look away and tell them my veins r bad so I need the smallest an thinest needle I do hope these ones showed my grape burst an released its seed cd 27 for me today don't want all my bed rocking to be for nothing but pleasure .... golden did u get all your normal sighns you normally get when ya period is coming when taking clomid ... I have had no sighns it's in it's way yet I normally have realy sore melons just wondering if clomid changes it all big hugs my lil lovelies X

Good morning. Golly so much going on!

golden how are you now feeling about another cycle with clomid?

I have just finished my first batch of 50mg, currently on day 8 so it's the beginning of shag week, though my husband won't let me talk about it that way.
Haven't had too bad side effects though some cramping last couple of days (I get cramping on and off through the cycle anyway so may be nothing) also a horrendous breakout of spots! Anyone else had that?
Anyway have a scan on tuesday. rosie with your follies do you think that means that there is a good chance you may ovulate from both or is that wishful thinking do you think? FX at least one of them does what it's meant to! Are you going for another scan this cycle and/or getting 21 day bloods?

daisy we use conceive plus. I'm unsure that it actually "helps" (well after 13 months ttc it clearly hasn't helped that much!) however I would highly recommend it for helping moving things along when you're, ahem, possibly not as much in the mood as you can be. And definitely a lot better than a "normal" lube which is likely to be hostile to sperm. Also it's expensive but a little goes a long way - we've been on the same tube for almost a year! (admittedly we don't use it every time)

Ces completely get what golden is saying however for me, temps do work. You need to do it consistently though and look at the overall pattern rather than day to day - the main benefit for me is that it gives me a better idea of how long (or short) my LP is so that I have evidence to show the consultant not that he's given a monkeys so far also, with clomid I am hoping I will see the LP getting longer. That "have I/haven't I ovulated" question is always difficult to answer, but when I get the temperature spike, I think 1-2 days after ovulation, at least I know the ship has sailed for that month and it's time to try and take my mind off it as the 2ww progresses. PS I actually have a farenheit therm and chart, I originally used a Centigrade one but my temp changes are very small and easier to see when charting in f. You can get both on ebay for about £3-4, though the F ones are a bit trickier to hunt out.

Hi Christelle yes that's the one we use too. Like you I don't think it helps (26 months ttc) but is better than a 'normal' one. He he, Shag Week! I might start using that.

Meluv sorry to hear you had a fall, hope you are feeling much better after a lot of rest and biscuits.

Rosie things seem to be growing nicely with you this cycle, fingers crossed for a 1.7.( The first cycle I had I went back 3 times in a week, so they could chart them growing.) Bring on the bed rocking!

As for other peoples pregnancies, I honestly don't think I know any women any more of child bearing age that are not either up the duff, or nursing a baby. Some of the 'announcements' from when we first started ttc are now over a year old. The other week I went to a meeting at work, I knew it would be a bit upsetting as 2 colleagues had just announced (we are only a small team of 6 or so) anyway during the meeting, our guest speaker was late. When she finally arrived she waddled in with a massive bump saying 'sorry I'm late I was at the Midwife's'. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

A friend who had a baby about 4 months ago told me when preg that she couldn't wait for the pregnancy to be over, and the entire first year. She hates that time and can't wait for it to be over and done. I was really upset at that, especially as we'd been talking about me ttc only minutes before so it's not like she didn't know. I know I'm being a bit over sensitive, but I thought she could have been more so.

Golden I can relate to it bringing out such horrible thoughts too, sometimes I don't recognise myself. I remember being envious of a friends miscarriage! It was only a couple of weeks into the pregnancy, but I felt that at least she knows her body can actually get pregnant, which is more than me. How horrible does that make me sound. I hated myself for feeling like that. It was around the time I had been referred to the fertility dept, was having so many tests done, and had just found out I wasn't ovulating, I felt so 'broken'.

So glad I have found this thread. I 'fell out' with Mumsnet a few years back and stopped going on the boards, but thought I'd just have a little look for Clomid advice. Really glad I did, my friends are really supportive, but it's so nice to chat to people who actually understand what I'm feeling. And what things like 'folicules' and 'luteal phase' mean.

Does anyone know what happened with the women who are posting at the start of the thread? Cheekycurls and the others, did any of them have any success on clomid? The thread was started last September, so there may be some babies by now!

Daisy, don't fucking ask! I've read through this thread in its entirety and followed all the ladies' three Clomid cycles (at least) and read of only one pregnancy - and that ended very quickly in miscarriage. However, by the middle of the thread there were, I think, only about three ladies contributing and Cheekycurls got fed-up way back. It was very dispiriting reading through their disappointments. There is such excitement and hope with this drug, isn't there? There may well could have been babies born from this thread but no-one came back to tell us. Selfish bitches

Meluv, I had none of my usual premenstrual symptoms whilst on Clomid this time (2-3lbs weight gain, skin break-out, voracious appetite), which made the arrival of AF all the more tormenting. I've just looked at my chart for this month and I can see I had a skin break-out six days after my final tablet and cramping and fatigue on the day of ovulation.

However, I had nausea, cramping, bloating and very sore nipples in the week prior to AF - symptoms I never have had - which is why I had such high hopes of a BFP. Please, girls, don't get excited by the 'symptoms'. Ignore the fuckers.

I'm off to my kettle bell training. Come on, serotonin! Come on dopamine!

Summer & Meluv, I am so excited for you today. Please, please, please tell us you've ovulated xx

Thanks for the sympathy, Rosie. I actually have almost zero contact with DP's son or his mother. We live out in the sticks and they live miles away and DP goes to his son for his weekly contact. Works well for me, the one and only time he was ever here I found his pockets weighed down with the contents of my copper jar. Thieving little fuck.

Christelle, how do I feel about this second round of Clomid? Erm..well..you know.......

Well my lil lovelies I have been for the cd 27 bloods what a fucking nightmare had to sit around for ages cause they never had the request on screen grrrrrrr it makes me so mad I won't no results till around tue next week fingers crossed although I don't hold much hope after the scan news only time will tell girls ... golden thanks for the info on the symtoms I have has none if my usual ones I have had a lot of spots from my first week of clomid if it don't work for me this month I can't continue next month anyway cause of the dam cyst wish I cud stick a pin in an burst it lol well off to tidy up an put my shopping away just seen a friend in asda with her new born son I felt so rude walking past so I had to stop an have a look he was beautiful and I am so happy for her but I got the big pang of jealously and all the y not me thoughts its so heart breaking girls x

Aw, Meluv, my fingers, toes and fanjo flaps are crossed for your results next Tuesday. So you're another one being accosted by smug pregnant friends, eh? (I'm sure they're not smug but if we can't slag the lucky bitches off on here, where can we? ) It seems an impossible dream, doesn't it, at this stage in our ttc journey, that it will be us proudly showing off a bump in the not too distant future? Why should it not happen to us?

I've decided that, perhaps if I do something good and 'give of myself' to the universe, maybe the universe will 'give back' to me (a baby would be nice). So, on this note, I have applied to be a volunteer for ADS (Addiction Dependency Solutions) which helps drug addicts and alcoholics. As a recovering alcoholic myself I know I have so much to give in terms of my time and experience. I used ADS myself in the very early days of my addiction and they never gave up on me. They were the ones who found me a place in rehab and so I will be eternally grateful to them for giving me my life back.

I'm not being entirely altruistic here; I need to find ways of filling my days with meaningful activities so that I can somehow ease the burden of this tedious ttc merry-go-round. My freelance work - which is shamefully casual - leaves me with far too much time on my hands and with living out in the sticks and working from home I can literally go a fortnight without seeing anyone but DP and the checkout staff at Tesco. This is not living and I am determined to do something about it..

Oops! Forgot my stats: 41 yrs, childless and bitter hag, despising smug pregnant women everywhere, 2nd Clomid cycle, CD3.

Annalou & Mumalah, how are you, girls? [waves]

Lol golden your stats just made me giggle.

I can totally understand how step children partuliculalty when the mum is a nightmare can be difficult and if try are too its a nightmare. Being a step mum has been one of the hardest things I have ever done in fact trying hard to get it right has put it on a par to the ttc journey. Yet if I didn't have DH tomorrow I would never want to lose them from my lives.

Golden I think your voluntary work sounds absolutely brilliant idea. You have so much to give by the sounds of it and it's perfect. I really admire you for that.

Meluv I am sending all my prayers thoughts and love for next Tuesday and for that horrid feeling when you hear see a little baby. I totally do understand that pain.

Summer I really hope your appointment went well.

All you other ladies thanks for your comments and thoughts.

Finally I do have a little bit of news... I didn't know why was best as I didn't want to be someone who just upped and left the thread as even in the last week you ladies have been amazing and kept my sanity. Please know that I know how hard this is to hear as much as anyone but I wanted to share with you girls I took an HPT this morning and it was very faintly positive. I did another clearblue and it came up straight away. I am not sharing this news with anyone else other than DH because I am acutely aware that I have more than likely had chemical pregnancies in the past due to low progesterone so am trying to keep pretty calm about it. I do know that having struggled for so long with this horrid journey that you girls will probably be chuffed to bits but feel all the other feelings I feel when I hear someone's wonderful news. I just wanted to let you all know. Much love to you all xxxx

Oh. My. Goodness!! CES, that is such fabulous news! Well done you! Please, please stay in touch occasionally to let us know how your pregnancy is going? Much love and best wishes..xxx

CES, I hope you don't mind me summarising your story this month on here for the benefit of those who've forgotten how you got that BFP. You saw EWCM on days 13-16, you have no idea when you ovulated but you bed-rocked on days 14 & 18. You were hormonal and bloated with sore boobs last week in Venice and you got your BFP on CD29. Hooray!!

P.s..I think it was most definitely sex on CD14 that did it for you

CES, what do you plan to do about your low progesterone? Why do you suspect you've been having chemical pregnancies?

Woo hoo CES that's lovely news hunny an do keep in touch an let us no am so excited for you ps it does not hurt as much when we no you have gone through this journey with us it proves to us that it can work an gives us all hope to keep our dream alive congrats hunny big hugs xxxgolden I wud luv to get involved in the volentrey work your doing I have so much time for peeps who struggle with addictions I luv to help anyone I can if I can especially them peeps big hugs lovely xxx

CES was this your first cycle at clomid I forgot there is that many of us now how much we're you taking an what were your problems to begin with hunny am over the moon for u xxxx

Thank you so much ladies I feel very pleased but a bit surreal I will definitely pop on to see how you are all doing and I really hope it happens for you all soon.

Golden I have suspected chemicals for a while as from the very month we started trying my cycles went from pretty regular 32 ish to Anything from 73 on the first month to 28. More often than not they were longer. It's why I was referred earlier than a year as the dr felt something had gone wrong with my cycles. Anyway after having all the bloods and them coming back as low progesterone corpus luteum deficiency and unlikely to be able to sustain a pregnancy. Basically the dr suspected that the egg was fertilised hence delays in periods but was struggling to implant and every time I had a long cycle I then spotted for about 6-9 days before AF arrived. It seemed like the lining was coming away bit by bit. I never got a positive test and the dr said it was very difficult to prove but suspected so. Anyway I don't remember taking a test a early a 29 days (not sure why I did this month) I alway took them after day 32. So all in all I feel amazingly positive I have a BFP which says u am 3 weeks pregnant so I do know the egg can be fertilised but I will just have to hope it sticks.

Bizarrely I hadn't started clomid I wa prescribed on 31st October to start on my next cycle. This month as I knew the appointment was coming I just didn't bother with it all and thought the clomid would do it. We have been trying for 16 months. We bed rocked 2 days last month 14/18.

I don't know what to do about progesterone levels. I have a doctors appointment next Friday so will prov take tests every day to check it's still real and then ask then.

Thank you for your comments lovely ladies I so want this to be my time but if I could ask for anything else in the world right now it would be that you could all have that BFP soon xxx