CLOMID first timer....

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I can't seem to find any clomid threads that are active, so thought I would start this one.

Currently just finished taking my last tablet (50mg) on my first month of clomid, I'm very excited & nervous at the same time.

So many things going on in my head, no one to really talk to, symptoms are a bitch (but must mean something is working if I have symptoms yeah?!)

has anyone taken clomid without being monitored? My consultant isn't going to scan me to check on follicles, I just have to go back to see her in 3 weeks (not sure what for?)

Really hoping this works!

But if anyone wants to join me on a clomid ride, share info or success stories, feel free to......

Hiya, yes by lap at the hospital, I had keyhole surgery to remove endo and to cut scar tissue as my left ovary was glued to my Ab wall and covered.

I originally collapsed with a large cyst and got rushed in for scans.

The op itself is very straightforward. My gp at the time was very good and on the ball, but then I find female gps to be miles better....

Fucking period pain

Feel so bad for you. that was me last week, hours after a bfn. you will feel more optimistic in a few days, promise.

Thanks, Christelle. Period just arrived. Quite relieved really in terms of the prick-tease symptoms I was having which were just raising my hopes. So, ladies, if you ovulate on this drug be ready to have very real nausea, cramps and nipple tenderness in the last week of your 2ww. Expect a late period from a longer luteal phase. DO NOT TEST EARLY - IT WILL ONLY CAUSE YOU MISERY

Evening ladies,

golden so sorry to hear you got a BFN, I like Summer was expecting hear good news from you. Being my 1st cycle of clomid I haven't had the same disappointment but plenty of BFN's and nothing anyone will say will help but a here's a little token to try and lift your spirits I hope the cats weren't too close to you when you found out !?! Thanks for the warning about symptoms though.

Tiger I echo what the other ladies say, get to the hospital asap, all this ttc is hard enough and everyday feels like a lifetime even when time is (hopefully) on our side. I have a friend who has endo,and conceived pretty much the 1st month of ttc so it can happen.

Thanks for your words of wisdom peeps :)

I am about to come off the pill in a week and will request an appointment with a female gp which will take a few weeks but by then I will probably be crippled with period pain so will make a convincing plea for referral!

I will ask about Clomid as well.

R golden am so sorry lovely realy upset for you big hugs gorge xxxx any way I got my results from cd 20 bloods and showed I never ovulated I was not surprised by this as I never got positive OPK till cd 22 so my day 27 bloods will tell all girls I have had a nasty fall this evening and it realy knocked me up I now have tummy cramps too not good feel so shakey it's knocked me sick am sending my luv to all u lovely ladies xxx

Golden put ya lil feet up an have a nice and a [biscut] to dunk do you get sweet cravens when the painters r due in ?

Gutted for you golden :( I too have got the dreaded period cramps :(

Hope everyone is well apart from the obvious. Better luck on cycle number 2 ladies :)

Meluv I hope you're ok sweetheart, look after yourself. I hope there was someone at home to make you tea and basically service your every need.
Cross fingers those day 27 bloods have some good news to cheer you back up.

So gutted for you golden - as you know - here's to the next month.

This song has been cheering me up a bit lately

Thanks summer big hugs hunny x

Meluv, you poor, poor lamb. I hate to think you've hurt yourself...no wonder you were shaken up. Do look after yourself tonight and put your feet up. Fingers crossed that day 27 results put a smile on your already-smiley face x

Thanks for all your commiserations and flowers, ladies. Thank goodness we've got each other, eh?

A couple of things: I recently read something from the Sperm Meets Egg Plan about the lifespan of sperm. Here it is:

Many books tell you that sperm can last for 5 days and the egg for 24 hours. While this is technically true on the very long end (and something to follow if you trying to NOT get pregnant), most sperm will only last about two hours if you do not have fertile-quality cervical mucus for it to swim in. The sperm will struggle to swim up to your uterus, use all its reserves, and not make it. The egg typically lives only about 12 hours, so it cannot wait for long. You can now see how important that cervical mucus is! You will never get pregnant with sperm living two hours and an egg only twelve. This information is really just to make you feel better if you've been trying a long time and all your infertility testing came back normal. If the Deanna-plan does not work and you are faithful to it for three months, take a dose of plain Robitussin cough syrup (or any cough medicine that says "expectorant" and NOT "antihistamine") each day (preferably a few hours prior to "trying") starting around Day 10 until the day after your ovulation predictor goes off. It should help make all the mucus in your body runnier, including that produced by your cervix. (Oh the gruesome details required in baby-making!) The sperm in the runnier mucus will live about two days, and will be up there and ready for the 12-hour life of the egg. A NOTE ABOUT CLOMID: Clomid causes cervical mucus to dry up in 25% of the women who take it. If you notice your mucus is not plentiful as it was before taking this drug, take the Robitussin and call your doctor to make sure your really need the Clomid. If you are ovulating on your own and do not have a documented luteal phase defect, you most likely do not need it.
"Trying" too often can actually do more harm than good. Do not try every night! You will get exhausted and sore, and your mucusboth for fertility and for lubricationwill dry up, and you will stop trying too early in the month or miss an important day. Every other day is absolutely sufficient, with three nights in a row during peak time sealing the deal.

Summer, can I pick your brain, love, please? When you had the HCG injection this time did the nurse tell you how many hours from then you should ovulate? My pamphlet tells me within 36 hours but that this could also be 32-48 hours later. I guess, with DP's 'pressure issues' I am trying to hit the mark as precisely as possible

Love to all - and please don't let the arrival of my period discourage you. My ancient eggs are nothing compared to the nubile little beauties you lot will be popping out! Be patient, I'm rooting for you all xx

Meluv - really sorry to hear about your fall I hope you are feeling better and being looked after.

Golden - horrid AF sorry she arrived, keep your chin up rant if you need to and then move on to next month.. It's what us ladies are good at unfortunately. Big hugs! Xx

Well ladies I need some advice. Cycle day 28 today. I don't know if or when I ovulated this month but had EWCM from days 13-16 ish. Hardly think it's likely this month but when should I start to think about testing... How long do I have to try and think about not testing more like?

I haven't had regular cycles for the last few months. Last one was 39 but was on pregnacare which I have since heard can make your cycles longer. Before that 28,34,33,43. So can be a bit hit and miss. I have sore boobs, lower back pains, insomnia (which I suffer with a lot anyway) and bad skin for me. Most symptoms I have every month. So when to test?

Also I don't track temperature but want to start as I feel it could give me lots of info but have heard you have to have slept for three consecutive hours which I very rarely do.. Any ideas?

As an aside had a good old cry when I came back from hols as back to reality. Although it's exciting about starting clomid I have such mixe feelings and am a bit nervous too. Then first day back at work yesterday had a horrid day with a woman in the office tearing strips off me about something ridiculous and although I don't really care and can give as good as I get if needed I wasn't in the place. Anyway better try and sleep again before My little tep daughters wake me up in about two hours time. I do so love them and as a rule I am so greatful I have them in my life but I am acutely aware they have a mum.. I am not their mum and shouldn't try to be. Therefore when I am woken early, have to get up to prepare a meal for them ao they eat properly and give them cuddles when they feel poorly take time off work if they need it ... It's always a bit bittersweet. I never wish they weren't here love them loads but do wish I was a mum too :-(

Anyway rant over signing out. Love to all x

Thanks for all the lovely caring messages girls golden that was interesting to read Hun ....CES aw you are so lovely your lil thread brought tears to my eyes I hate the problems we r having life is so unfair sometimes our dreams will cum true girls ... I don't no weather it's just me or is it the same for use pregnancy babies nappies prams food milk all seem to be everywhere I look lately magazines news papers tv adds I even stopped to answer my phone in asda the other day and when I turned around right there in front if me was the baby isle I get a big pang of anxiousness an hurt inside me just seems to be everywhere I look except in my tummy were I want it big hugs lovelies xxx

Golden, I'd read that before, and a lot of ladies on the PCOS site I used to be on advocated using Robitussin. I'm sort of wondering if I should give that a shot as I don't get much CM at all, but I guess I'll wait til the docs actually get my ovulating (if they ever do...)

The HCG - the nurse said 24-36 hours. I had the jab Saturday night so if I ovulated I assume it would have been at some point during Sunday night. We dtd Saturday, Sunday, Monday and yesterday - just trying to cover bases in case it was later than expected.
Sadly we missed Friday (the -2 mark - then again, I'm not so worried about it this month as still not at all convinced the jab actually made any difference).
If I were you I'd try for 1 day before the jab, day of the jab, and if you can manage, day after the jab, though that one's probably less important.

CES big hugs to you sweetheart. It's always tough coming back to reality - I find at least while I'm on hols or with non-pregnant/TTC friends all this stuff goes out of my mind, and it's almost like because you had a break from it it's even worse on the flip side.
That woman at work sounds like a total cow - I hope you don't have to deal with her again today. Almost the weekend now...

I can't imagine how tough it is having stepkids, but it sounds like you're an absolutely wonderful stepmum and I'm sure that, while they have a 'real' mum, you are also very much a mum to them and that they love you heaps. I had several unofficial stepmums (Dad never remarried but had long term relationships) growing up and I can safely say that none of them ever got up to make me breakfast or gave me cuddles when I was ill! So, you are doing a great job.

Wrt testing - I get very depressed by seeing those BFNs so if I was in your shoes I'd probably wait until about CD35 (rough average of your recent few cycles)
However, if you don't mind seeing BFNs, you could always buy a bunch of cheapo HPTs and just test every day from now. Or maybe cut it down the middle and go for CD31/32?

Charting - I've never done this, partly because PCO is also meant to mess it up, partly because with the clomid I figure you just have to dtd regularly and then you'll find out in retrospect whether you ov'ed or not.
So, I'm not sure about the sleep thing, but if you want to try it, you could always do it - taking your temp before you get up in the morning, regardless of how long you've been sleeping - and then see if your numbers are all over the place or if you're following a consistent pattern.

Hope everyone else doing as well as possible today - meluv if you are not feeling great take it easy, take the day off work/Mum duties if possible, rest up my love.

Summer your advise is great u r an amazing person always have lots if tips u an golden r a great pair and I agree with you CES is a great step mum big hugs to u all am taking it easy today x

Hello everyone, I haven't been on these boards for about 4 years! But I've been reading this thread for a few days and love the support here.

I'm on my 3 cycle of clomid now after ttc for 2 years. Have had limited success with the previous 2 cycles but my body is responding so onwards and upwards!

I had the injection for the first time this month, as previously I had viable eggs, but not releasing them. Has anyone had any cramping after the injection? I had it Monday afternoon, and had mild cramps and discomfort for about 48 hours after. I'm hoping that this was actually ov esp as it was worse on my left side, where I had the 1.8mm folicule.

Also in terms of ewcm, or the lack of it, has anyone tried the 'conception friendly' lubricants? Are they any good, or not recommended? Have been using one so hoping they are ok. (esp as it cost about £12!)

Sending a big hug to everyone here, it is such a difficult time, and the relentless cycle of waiting, followed by disappointment, picking yourself up and starting again seems endless. I'm glad I've found this thread, and the support for each other x

Oh meluv bless you, I'm a very ordinary person, just want to support all those on this same difficult journey as me as much as possible.

Daisy, welcome! You will be in good hands here!
It seems like we are in exactly the same place right now... I, too, had decent sized follies for the first two cycles but didn't ovulate; I, too, had an 18mm-er on my left side this (third) cycle and had the jab! I haven't had any cramps but lots of twinges on that side (mind you, I had those the other months as well, so am not getting too over excited about them...but if they were new to you, it could well have been ov)
I'm using preseed - I don't know whether it's any good really, but because I don't get a whole lot of CM we need to use some sort of lube and it's the only one that doesn't contain spermicide and is supposedly meant to mirror the makeup of EWCM.
If you don't mind me asking how old are you, do you have other kids, what medical issues do you have? (Just like to 'get to know' everyone on the thread as much as poss!)

CES, may I offer you my tuppence worth? Don't chart your temperatures. I have been doing it for nine months and each month fertility friend has pinpointed 'ovulation'. When my day 21 progesterone came back as 18.5 and I was told this meant I was not ovulating I was horrified. Those charts pretty much tell you nowt. If you are not getting at least three hours of uninterrupted sleep you have absolutely no chance of seeing anything remotely valid. Leave well alone and just rely on regular sex.

Daisy, hello and welcome This is an ace thread, I agree. As you will see I am an anti-symptom-spotter but I will allow that those gripes you felt the day after the injection may well have been ovulation. I can't promise you, obviously, and I would hate anyone on here to fret over the absence of them but I felt the same, too, and I ovulated this month. Pity ovulation does not guarantee a baby

Yes! I started my second round of Clomid today. Took my pill at lunchtime ('cos that's how I roll) and booked in for my scan. I'm back to the gym tonight and will make a concerted effort to at least look after my body whilst on this journey. Have a lovely afternoon and evening everyone. Good luck with bed-rocking (I love this, Meluv!) if it's your fertile window (and if it's not your fertile window what the fuck are you doing bed-rocking, you sex maniacs!?)

Thanks lovely ladies for your Kind comments I do try my best and luckily they are wonderful little girls too. Ok golden thanks for that re temp charting I will give it a miss then as I don't need to add something else to the mix if it's going to bring more stress.

Summer I am going to try really hard to not test until at least 31 I wish I didn't have any HPTs at home though. I have one in the cupboard calling me!

Meluv how are you doing today after your fall?

Welcome to any other new people it's great knowing we are all out there to offer support I love that and feel already I have somewhere to turn to if needed :-)

How are all of you others doing.

Golden - I hate symptom spotting too but I just can't stop it..

My stats: 32: I also have big boobs :-) am a little overweight, dark hair. Married to a wondefulan with two little girls ages 8 & 9. Since ttc my cycled went crazy, progesterone levels taken on two cycles at day 21 and 28 levels were 2 and 18. Been prescribed 100mg clomid straight off to start next cycle! On day 28 of this one. Will be having scans at 12 days and injections when eggs are ready. This is every cycle for 6 months to review :-)

Summer, gosh yes we are in exactly the same situation! Fingers crossed for you too this month. I am 37, we have 1 child together who is 4.5, and have been trying for just over 2 years. The only medical reason for not con earlier seems to be that I am hoarding my eggs. Everything else seems fine from the tests that I have done. I have an underactive thyroid too but have been assured that as I'm on the correct medication it shouldn't present any problems. How about you? Sorry if you have given this info before, there are 30 pages here and I haven't read all of it, just the first and last few pages!

Ah Goldengirl if I had a pound for every symptom I had spotted...! I used to be compulsive about it, but about a year ago I felt like I was driving myself mad and have tried to stop as much as possible.

I have been getting new, odd feelings since being on Comid so just try and put everything down to that rather than being hopeful. But the cramps were something too noticeable and new for me to ignore. The first month I took it I nearly went mad with hormonal PMT symptoms, had one day when all I did was cry or shout. Luckily that seems to have passed, and must have just been the sudden amount of 'unusual' hormones in my body!

"Took my pill at lunchtime ('cos that's how I roll)" that really made me laugh! Me too, too tired and dozy to sort it out in the morning, and too tired and dozy to remember last thing at night. Lunchtime gives me enough time if I forget it. to take later.

Agghhh help my husband just told me that a couple we know who live accross the other side of the world emailed today to say they are expecting their second child. They know our situation and apparently said they 'felt really awkward emailing us'. Then my husband was worried about telling me. I don't know whether I feel more angry or upset I hate being the one everyone feels sorry for! Don't know what I am angry about really but I am!

CES That's great you're getting such good monitoring and injections from cycle one. I really wish I'd had the injections straight away - don't know if it would have ultimately made any difference for me, but I think, why waste time?
Feeling angry, no matter what the reason, is the prerogative of ALL women TTC long term. At least the couple were a bit sensitive - I was moaning upthread about a pregnant friend who was sending me constant texts and emails about all the latest progressions with her pregnancy - drove me utterly up the wall (I've now just stopped replying to her and she seems to have got the message...)
The pity thing - yes, that's why I haven't told my in laws. I've told basically everyone else because I find the support really helpful, but can't face telling the ILs because I know there'll be THE PITY (as well as the oh so subtle questions about how treatment's going...)

Daisy don't worry, this thread has tons of pages! I'm 27, married, no kids, TTC for 14 months now. Small boobs unlike most of the lucky ladies here! I had regular periods before I start the pill (when I was 21) but didn't have a single one after I came off until my second cycle of clomid. Have pretty bad PCO, without clomid my follicles don't grow properly so just don't ovulate full stop. Fingers crossed for both of us with this jab!

golden yep you cracked me up too - thanks love! Also hit the gym tonight after a bit of an absence, felt like a total heffalump on the treadmill but better than nothing! Ths might be my new favourite quote: (and if it's not your fertile window what the fuck are you doing bed-rocking, you sex maniacs!?) - and tbh what with this bloody bladder infection I'm not too keen on rocking the bed even during the fertile window!

Hope everyone's having a good evening, TGIF tomorrow!!

Hello my lovelies how r u all on this cold bloody evening I have had a total day of rest after my fall am so sore but am still smiling golden glad u like the bed rocking I luv it myself lol lol .... Hello all the newbies we r a lovely bunch of girls in hear an all hear for each other big hugs x