Assisted Conception (and all the bits in between) volume 8

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Looks like we need a new thread for Italian, Scrummy, Beginnings, womanly, lissy, rowing, fretfree, Teds77, keziah, frustrated and anyone else who wants to chat about assisted conception!

Quick hello as i'm off to watch XFactor (sad i know). Welcome Emma glad you found us. Hope everyone is doing well.

Italian hows them embies?

hope everyone is doing okay.
xxx

Emma welcome. May it all go well.

Pocket1 yes, I would say get your flu jab now and out of the way. Tell your doc you are about to undergo treatment and don't let them make you wait! In my humble opinion.

rowing what a long journey we have both been on. May it all work out well for you this time.

Wellerbabe wow, for two weeks time, IUI, how fab. My lovely DD was conceived by IUI with just one single follicle!

Scrummy Zita says to image an orange light kind of cascading down from your head. All I can think of is orange Fanta spurting off the top of my head!

lissy hugs to you, 20 weeks, half way. Wow.

Keziah hugs to you honey.

Mojangles and level hugs to you both.

Me, I am eating crisps like they are going out of fashion! I feel stressed and worried but I have only got a week or so to go.

I sincerely hope Paschal and Cielo are in there still. I am kind of terrified it will not work but quietly resigning myself to it not working. I get fake symptoms metallic taste in the mouth, boob ache, tired but then that is all Hugs to all.

Hi all,
Italian hang on in there and try to alternate the crisps with an apple, make you feel virtuous as you tuck into another packet of Mccoys. Which crisps are you scoffing, is it those awfully moreish kettle chips or the infamous Walkers sweet chilli? I can't even buy 'em, just start noshing them straight away.
I've been a bit better with the diet, not really on a 'diet' diet, but just not having the ten treats a day. However, in the midst of the hormones and the treatment that could all fly out of the window. So hard! Courage mon brave!

Pocket bless, I'm very easily confused/distracted so we are doomed to get everybody's details wrong. So the elephant pregnancy dose worked, fantastic! I think I was on the highest level too, definitely remember taking three or four vials of whatever it is they gave me, menopur or something?

Scrummy it is scary isn't it! Lets hold hands and trudge through it together!

Emma you sound very cheery - quite right! Any questions please feel free to ask, it has been a while since I did IVF, but I will rack my tired brain for information. Welcome to the thread!

Waves to all!

Rowing I am embarressed to say they are el cheapo ones! (Crisps that is).

I have told about 25 people about our treatment in real life so now I face having to tell 25 people by text if it fails! I won't make this mistake again!

Hi everyone

just a quick hello from me and hope you're well. I spoke to my consultant today and they advised me NOT to have a flu jab 'so close to my treatment' (crikey, this is really happening :)). i'd suggest that if in doubt, check with your GP or fertility consultant just to be sure. Sorry to contradict you Italian

lots of love to everyone xxx

Italian, any crisp in a storm! Make one of those text group thingies so you can inform them of your success in a week's time!

Pocket good job you checked! If it all works - and it will, then you can have it after. Was there something on the news about preggo women being offered the shot?

Pocket I guess all clinics can recommend different things. I did tell mine my jab was scheduled for two days before embryo transfer and they didn't say it was a problem. Also, as I have mild asthma I did want to get the shot but I did want to get it before I was pregnant (if I am pregnant! It is so bloomin? confusing having to think in terms of if I am if I am not!). But I guess I would always ask for the opinion of the consultant and at the end of the day make my own choice based on what they said so I would recommend anyone else to do that too, so maybe I shouldn?t have said that it was the best thing to do, I just felt it was right for me! Hope you get it all sorted OK. I still can?t believe how quick this has all happened. Can I ask if you are trying for number 1 or not? It is so hard to keep track! We used to have a little roll call and that helped to keep a track of who was who!

rowing I so much hope so (that I will get to test friends). BUT.... But I found out today that if I do get a positive I don?t get a scan for three weeks! So I am a bit unsure who to tell if it is good because until I see a scan I might not even believe it. I don?t feel I can tell DD until I know it is all OK and I can?t tell too many people so I might just keep quiet and let people assume what they want to. The worst bit is when people ask you across the car park how it has all gone!

Has anyone else had Clexine injections into their tummy? I feel sure someone on here has! Anyway, my tummy is normally bloated like a football but it is worse tat eh moment and I am wondering if it is the Clexine or the other steroids I am taking! If I do get a positive I will need to continue being injected in the tummy for 2 or 3 months I think! It is all so weird!

I have a guilty secret! I love this show. The real housewives of New York City.

www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=279210

I must admit one thing I like is that it makes me think my friends are lovely by comparison! Does anyone else watch it; it is on ITV2 most days! How sad am I?

Rowing TEXT friends! AND worse at the moment

Italian I do clexane and I think either lissy or keziah did too. I'm going to have to do it the whole way until the end as I have thrombophilia which could contribute to a miscarriage at any point. I think it did make me bloated, although I'm also on steroids and eating for britain so who knows!! I think that's got a bit better and also I'm finding now that my bruising is less than in the beginning. I think I'm getting better at it.

Welcome Emma! Let us know how you get on.

Aaargh! I seem to have started spotting so AF could be imminent, which would be a nightmare for timing. If I start taking the oestrogen today day 20 would be on Ds's birthday!
To tell you the truth, I am absolutely freaking out about the whole thing, I just don't feel ready for this, especially with all the worry about the weather, which was a nightmare last year - had to cancel treatment at the last minute and lost £400 + on flights.
I know that if I don't go now I would be unlikely to fly until next February or March at the earliest because of the weather. I just couldn't get stuck in another country.
I really don't know what to do, but I remember the last time it was possible to delay the transfer date because the oestrogen holds off ovulation, it kind of depends on when I start the progesterone.
See this is what happens when you bury your head in the sand and then things become 'real' - you have to cope with it all at once and have a complete meltdown.
I also have DP to contend with, he is not exactly thrilled at the embryo being unrelated to us, but I don't think we have many options left to us now so I'm kind of plowing on.
Heeeeelp!
I know I'll take agnus castus and see if the spotting stops...

Hi laydeeeeez

Just mooching around with not much to say, but thought I'd pop on and commiserate with Italian about clexane, which I had for DEIVF1. The main thing I remember was that the needles seemed blunter than all the others and DH had to more or less screw them into my tummy. Luverly. Not lonbg to go now though! Think pregnant thoughts!

Rowing deep breaths now! I suspect you can pick your transfer date - my clinic certainly let me, i just had to keep taking oestrogen and then count backwards from the selected date to start progesterone. Worth speaking to your clinic to select a date now? And I know weather can be unpredictable but don't worry about it too much - it's actually pretty rare for travel-disrupting levels of snow, you were spectacularly unlucky last time!

I think my ovarian cyst is back / never went away, I have the same symptoms of nausea, headache, grumpiness that I did during July and August. I've put it on the list of reasons why this cycle might have failed and am off to my GP tomorrow to get referred and hopefully get the bastard sorted out. If we go round again (working on DH) I need a clear run!

Hi Emma and good luck!

Level how are you doing?

Waves to everyone xx

Italian - I am on clexane, in the tummy - till 6 weeks post partum. I bloated until about week 14, but the midwife said that is normal in pregnancy (my bump is smaller at 18 weeks than at 14!!)... the combination of normal pregnancy bloat, steroids and clexane don't help. It will get better and bruising does reduce.

Italian - we didn't get a scan with our ivf clinic till week 8 either, so found a company that just does scans and paid for a private one at 6 weeks, to check not ectopic and we were pregnant (saw heartbeat!) - so might be an option if you would find it helps.

mojangles - sorting cyst out sounds a good idea.

Have scan next week - nervous that all is ok after having been in hospital ill.

Italian for the fanta image! I've watched the Real Housewives of New York, Orange County, Atlanta...I'm a sucker for all things reality, especially when the reality is that far removed from mine!

rowing hmm, not sure if I should say this,but I'm going to anyway - calm down dear! like mojangles said, you'd be highly unlikely to be so badly affected by the weather again, especially this time of year. Just take a deep breath and tell yourself to go to a happy place. You will be fine.

mojangles sorting out the cyst sounds like the plan. Are you ok?

Picked up my blood results today - my FSH has gone up still under the magical 10, with 8.2, but I'm surprised it risen that much since June (it was 6.2). My LH has stayed exactly the same. ho hum, let's see what ARGC say about it. Maybe I'd be better off not taking all the vitamins and leading this super healthy life

Forgot to add - I dreamt last night that I was in labour and the mw was checking my throat cos I was so sick all the time. I was standing in an empty bathtub thinking 'how could I have forgotten to tell them I wanted to give a water birth?' and DH was there, trying to sort out stuff from the hospital bag and asking me whether i was actually in labour?! Let's hope it's a good omen

Hi Italian- I was due to continue with my Clexane injections until about 34 weeks, but due to the impact on my stomach lining, I'm no longer taking them. I've found Arnica cream to be amazing for the bruising. Give yourself the shot, and then slather some Arnicare on it, it really does the trick.

rowing- I'll say the same thing as scrummy. keep calm and carry on! Nothing is certain until it's here, and I know everything will be just fine.

scrummy- Don't overanalyze, my dear. ARGC are used to everything and anything. They'll have some plan of action for you, if you decide to go with them.

Mojangles- Well done you for sorting out this cyst. If anything, getting rid of it will make you feel better, and in the long run, will be beneficial when you start the next round.

Keziah- How are you doing, sweets? Don't worry about your scan, I'm sure everything is going to be fine. The whole time I was ill in hospital there didn't seem to be concern for the baby, so that's a relief.

Welcome Emma! Don't be shy on this forum! The ladies on here are your best source of support and information, so don't be afraid to let loose.

Pocket- Ooooh, so exciting!

Beginnings- How are you doing, duck?

AFM, 20 week scan tomorrow, even though I won't be 20 weeks until next Tuesday. But going to Philly on Monday for two weeks, so I rescheduled it for before we left. Hopefully going to find out what I'm having! Still feeling the little flutterings of movement, and it's happening every other day now. Have decided to get the flu shot, better to be safe than sorry. After my last immunes bloods, it turns out my levels have risen a bit, so I'm not off the hook yet. Have to do repeats when I get back from holiday, and then hopefully I'll get the all clear.

Hugs and baby dust to all, I'll try to check in from the States!

Rowing I am so sorry you are freaking out. I am sure I can imagine some of it but only you know really how you feel. Sorry that your DP is not being very supportive. I am sure it will all come together. I agree that bad weather is not so likely and I am sure it will be OK but of course I am not a weather girl so can?t tell.

beginnings you poor thing having to inject all the time, but how great they can do something to help you.

Mojangles hope all will be well with your cyst, cyst cyst go away! Can they do anything with it! Can they remove it? Why do you say 'working on DH' is he not keen to do another cycle? Hugs to you, honey

Keziah I am sure if I ever get a positive I will not be able to wait three weeks! I am sort of half excited and half scared and half freaking out!

Scrummy yes, I love those housewives. My favourite one is Bethenny; I think she is really nice and funny. She seems the most normal, least effected! My least favourite is LuAnn, who just seems very rude and hoity toity! Jill is also p-ing me off too! Hope that your dream was a good preparation.

Lissy big hugs to you, 20 weeks almost ? wow almost half way!

Hi all - level, DonnaP86, Teds77, Pocket, Flip, Lucy, Val, Womanly, woowa, fretfree, marmite, frustrated, Wellerbabe, Pinkapples and Pumpkinjoy, hugs to all.

Can I ask your opinion?
Do you tell people if you arrange to meet them, know you are doing it and then at the last minute forget! Or do you pretend you were just a bit late!

I knew my friend was coming round for a cuppa at 4.00 and then at the last minute I totally forgot and we walked back slowly from school via the shops and arrived about 15 minutes too late! I called and apologised and we re-scheduled for next week. I was not sure whether to tell her I had forgotten but actually I had known about it, it was on my list but I just had forgotten that moment. Always hard to know what to admit to! I just felt it was more hurtful to say I had forgotten so I just said I was late, which I was! Normally, on a Wednesday I would go straight home so it was a fluke. Just curious to know if being honest would have been more hurtful than saying I was late!

Whoopie! Young apprentice is coming back!

Hello,
Just popping on for a quickie to say Hi. I haven't got much to post at the mo as I'm still in limbo (waiting for AF still too) and am busy in RL, but wanted to say GOOD LUCK to italian, I guess you're nearing the end of your 2WW? And also wishing Scrummy lots of luck for your appt at ARGC (is that tomorrow?) I'll be checking in to see what they say to you.
Waves to everyone else

Hello lovely ladies just a quicky from me (ooh er missus)

Rowing i'm afraid i cant offer any advice on the spotting as i'm not that clued up (shameful as i'm also going DE too ). i would risk the weather and go for for it sooner rather than later - the weather will only get worse... if you do go soon, you could be well on the way by Feb (smile). Sorry about DP -my DP is 'on board' but it does feel like i'm doing all the hard work myself (ironic as its my eggs that are the problem) - i wonder if they feel a bit left out of the whole thing .

Can we do a roll call? its been ages.... i'll kick things off...

Pocket, 44, ttc#1, donor found, transfer expected November-ish

lots of love to everyone xxx

Hello everyone hope you are well and happy it is Friday

Italian it must be so hard for you. I saw your post a few days ago about who to tell as they will constantly be asking 'soooo how did you get on?' which puts more pressure on. I am limiting it to a small number for now but fingers crossed for you.

After my stalking paid off and I went to see Mr Sabatini he told me my consultants mum had died so I felt really bad, however radio silence from her PA left me in the dark and he thought she had prescribed drugs already....

Anyway he prescribed Menopaur to inject and having a scan Monday so will see if that has any effect on my bits!

Me 41 DP 35
DS aged 10 from previous relationship
FSH 13.5
TTC 1 year just starting IUI

Thanks Lucy yes, appointment is today. Will report back to what was said.

Hello, I couldn't resist a good roll call:

Pocket, 44, ttc#1, donor found, transfer expected November-ish
Wellerbabe, 41 DP 35, DS aged 10 from previous relationship, FSH 13.5, TTC 1 year just starting IUI
Lucylookout, 40, DH 48, 1 DS aged 4 conceived naturally, 2 x mcs, 1 failed IUI May 11, waiting to cycle at ARGC

Happy Friday everyone

So the feedback - ARGC (who were busier than we thought - not sure why - and whose staff were super nice and helpful) are happy for me to have this cycle as my monitoring cycle (thanks again Lucy foe your suggestion on getting my day 3 done at the surgery). So I will head for my mid-cycle scan on Monday. The plan is to complete 3 medicated cycles of IUI, provided Mr t agrees after consulting our monitoring cycle results. If they all fail, we will move to IVF/ICSI, depending on DH SA, which by the way is now 20% for morphology, so we are heading in the right direction! No recommendation for immunes at this stage. So, I guess that means I could be heading for my first treatment cycle in November . That would make us cycle buddies rowing won't it? He wasn't concerned about the spotting and assumes it may be due to sudden reduction in progesterone. The pressaries will obviously fix that. So, gosh, here we go! feeling super excited

Italian how are you doing darling? It was a while ago since I watched the housewives so will need to look up to remind myself...
rowing italian has many wise words. Hope you're ok?

Hope you all have great things planned for the weekend.

Pocket, 44, ttc#1, donor found, transfer expected November-ish
Wellerbabe, 41 DP 35, DS aged 10 from previous relationship, FSH 13.5, TTC 1 year just starting IUI
Lucylookout, 40, DH 48, 1 DS aged 4 conceived naturally, 2 x mcs, 1 failed IUI May 11, waiting to cycle at ARGC
KeziahHopes, 36, ttc# 7yrs, failed ICSI, Immune testing, miracle natural BFP with immune treatment. Due March.

Glad good consultant Scrummy at ARGC, hope monitoring cycle goes well.

Well my 3 days in hospital ended up with a phonecall 11 days later to say another infection picked up bt microbiology - oh and hospital forgot to tell me for 7 days!! Infection can spread and cause prem labour . /can't see dr till Monday but got some more, different, antibiotics, to see if they work. Am not happy - especially as 5 weeks till viable and till hospital bothers

Pocket, 44, ttc#1, donor found, transfer expected November-ish
Wellerbabe, 41 DP 35, DS aged 10 from previous relationship, FSH 13.5, TTC 1 year just starting IUI
Lucylookout, 40, DH 48, 1 DS aged 4 conceived naturally, 2 x mcs, 1 failed IUI May 11, waiting to cycle at ARGC
KeziahHopes, 36, ttc# 7yrs, failed ICSI, Immune testing, miracle natural BFP with immune treatment. Due March.
Italiangreyhound 46, DD aged 6 (from IUI) MC 2006, IUI/IVF/de failed, IVF donor eggs OCT 2011 2WW

If you don?t like the bold can someone take it off, please?

Keziah the hospital are not looking after you, how terrible. Really hope all will be well soon. Praying for you, honey.
lucy hugs to you - thanks for asking.

Pocket I think men find it hard to relate to it all. I get DH to give me my injections, look after the pills, check sell by dates and order more, drive me to appointments etc. Maybe it makes him feel a bit more useful and it does help me!

Scrummy hugs for today. Great news. Sadly today was the last day of the housewives but you can watch on catch up. One lady was super mean and I SOOOOO wanted her t get her come-up-ance but when she did I felt sorry for her! Worth watching! IMHO!

Wellerbabe, it is tough when the private lives of the doctors have been affected but don?t feel bad because if it was all quiet you were not to know. Hugs to you.
Rowing thinking of you and hope you are feeling better.
lissy hugs.

Mojangles how are you feeling, how is DH feeling?

level hugs to you.
Hi all - DonnaP86, Teds77, Beginnings, Flip, Womanly, woowa, fretfree, marmite, frustrated, Pinkapples and Pumpkinjoy*, hugs to all.

Thank you friends - you are so supportive. You raise me up!

Have a new guilty pleasure!

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Was wrong about testing date, it is 16th not 18th!