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Assisted Conception (and all the bits in between) volume 8

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lucylookout · 28/08/2011 17:46

Looks like we need a new thread for Italian, Scrummy, Beginnings, womanly, lissy, rowing, fretfree, Teds77, keziah, frustrated and anyone else who wants to chat about assisted conception!

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rowingboat · 02/10/2011 21:28

Mojangles I'm so sorry, that is so sad! At least I suppose you have a very good reason for things not to pan out and you don't have to sit there feeling confused about the cause. Please take it easy, this is a time for calmness and self-indulgence no knee cymbals allowed! [hhhhuuugg]

rowingboat · 02/10/2011 21:29

Italian thank you for the command! I did pedal for 20 minutes and I plan to pedal tonight...

Italiangreyhound · 02/10/2011 21:57

Mojangles So very sorry for you, that is terrible. Thinking of you.

Italiangreyhound · 02/10/2011 22:02

fretfree so glad it is your one, as hoped! When we had treatment before I was quite desperate for the two to survive but this time I am more realistic and the knowledge that we have our embies in the freezer (all be it low grade ones!) means just one would be heavenly for me!

Scrummybumb how curiouos that you got 'male' names from my choice because I thought Cielo sounded rather femanine! I am not worried either way, girl or boy, boy or girl, I will be delighted. My DD rather likes boys and seems to want another boy in the family, as daddy is the only boy! I guess as mum to a girl it would be nice to know what it was like to have a son. But I am one of two girls myself so a girl would be fab. just happy either way. Thanks for asking. Wink

Italiangreyhound · 02/10/2011 22:05

fretfree I meant the embies were low grade ones! not the freezer! Just to clarify! Fretfree can I ask how old you are and if you used your own eggs for treatment, please? Just curious, feel free not to answer.

No time to name check Shallow Hal is calling. I love the fat suit and the moral of the story! Must get on the sofa with DH and a cup of tea!

Italiangreyhound · 02/10/2011 22:06

Shallow Hal the TV film, not my hubby! Just to clarify!

lucylookout · 02/10/2011 22:41

So sorry mojangles, that's crap. At least you've got a good idea of why it didn't happen. You sound like you're not planning on giving up yet though. When might you try again?
Italian you're sounding so happy and serene. So hope you get your boy or girl (or boy and girl. Eeek!)
Fret glad the scan went well. Do you have any symptoms yet?
I'm off to bed. In one way and another it's been a knackering weekend.

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level · 02/10/2011 23:05

Sorry mojangles I was really hoping it would work for you. I haven't even booked in my blood test and don't know when to book it for- the clinic tell me nothing. Not sure it's even worth my time.

Scrummybumb · 03/10/2011 18:23

mojangles so, so sorry you had a BFP, but like you said it probably was sadly bad timing. Do you plan to try again soon?

Lucy hope you find your calm soon. This TTC business can be so overwhelming at times. Thanks for your advice. Unfortunately my best laid plans haven't worked then as I will be most likely ovulating on the day of our appointment now. AF turned up today and have luckily managed to change my bloods to wed much to the annoyance of the GP receptionist. Oh well. One more month of trying for a natural then...

Italian I guess I'm thinking of Cee Lo. I hope you weren't offended. I always wanted a little brother when I was little - kept asking for one as though it was something you could pick up on your way home from work. Ahh, the innocence of youth.

level Hang in there darling

rowingboat · 03/10/2011 23:07

Hi all,

Moj thinking of you, such a tough time, but you have a great spirit (I can tell from your posts) and you will bounce back after time for sadness and for treating yourself.

Italian you are hilarious! I love your clarifications about the freezer not being low grade (should hope not) and Shallow Hal. YOu sound happy, I hope that is a good sign. Smile

Italiangreyhound · 04/10/2011 01:57

Mojangles thinking of you. Do you know if you will try again, do you have any frosty embies? Just curious. Don't share if you don't want to. You are in my thoughts.

lucy so sorry it has been a hard few days and thinking of you. What is the plan for next step? You are right Lucy about it being all consuming! I find myself thinking of almost everything in relation to where I will be in a fertility cycle; will I be at the start, in the middle, at the end?! Will I be resting, will I be recovering, will I be celebrating, will I be drinking alcohol! It's crazy!

level your clinic do not sound as if they are looking after you as you deserve to be looked after! I don't want to stick my beak in but I think you should be very clear with them, POLITE and FIRM, just contact them, say that you need test done and not sure what is happening next etc?

So Scrummy it is tests this week Wednesday for you? I really hope you are not giving a SECOND of thought to the receptionist?s feelings about when you have your blood test! Honestly, we go through enough I think without worrying about what anyone else thinks. Have you got another test, something else next week? It is a cycle with your own eggs, isn't it, so do you know when it will actually start, when this period is over?

No Scrummybumb not at all offended by your comments about my names or embies! It is so lovely when anyone shows any interest in MY emblies. My hubby is a wonderful man but he is not really interested in the mechanics of this whole thing, I told him my embies names and he is just not that into the whole thing. I think he just worries about all the ramifications and I know when it failed last year I was a total mess for a bit and couldn't stop crying!

Rowing Yes, I am happy; it is funny that I am able to be so upbeat but I am. I guess those little ones in the freezer are a real comfort to me. It is weird that I like to watch this type of 'One born every minute' programme! I think your thoughts are more normal than mine. So what is the plan for you next, dear rowing?

Pocket any news?

Donna did you get the advice you were looking for? How did it all turn out this month?

Big hugs to all - Keziah, lissy, Teds77, Beginnings, Flip, Val, Womanly, woowa, fretfree, marmite, frustrated, Wellerbabe, Pinkapples and Pumpkinjoy, hugs to all ? do you still look in on us?

DH and I had a chat and he knows and agrees that whatever happens with this cycle we will also have a FET cycle so either it will be as soon as possible if this one fails and if we are successful then it would be in a year's time I guess. I do feel weird thinking it will all continue when I had expected it to all be over by next month but I am excited too!

I wonder what others do, do you try and be totally positive on a cycle or do you try and be totally realistic, optimistic?

Well, we had a tiny bit of good news today. I spoke to the clinic and they said they had frozen our embies last week, which I mentioned. I have grandly named them Serentis, Jenever and May. The middle one was only five-cells when we left the clinic but by the time they came to freeze they said it was 6-celled! I know it is not a big deal but they said what they were looking for was for them to be moving on so the fact that it was moving on, and still developing right up to the time they froze was a really good sign!

Now I really need to leave them in the freezer, where they will be best. And concentrate on Paschal and Cielo, but I find it so hard to live in the present and I am always trying to be one stage ahead!

wellerbabe · 04/10/2011 14:46

Hello all, yes I am still looking in on you all between all the madness at work and seeing your good news :) and sadly some of your bad news :( ......I am feeling like I am in limbo at the moment as DP had semen analysis 2 weeks ago and not a WORD back from the Consultant. Her PA is basically ignoring me, and I wouldn't mind if it was NHS but I am paying privately. Don't they realise how stressful it is - I don't know if we can do IUI as no results and if we can I thought I was supposed to start taking some drugs at start of next cycle which is this Saturday. I am just going to stalk her until she responds! Take care all x

rowingboat · 04/10/2011 15:42

Hi all,

Weller hope you manage to find out where the doctor lives, that should move things along. 'She's mad, give her all the drugs she needs!' kind of thing. Smile

Italian wow good news on the embies, so what were the numbers for all of them? Good plan, and nice to have a safety cushion with the frosties.
I'm not thinking about it, but I can start the oestrogen next cycle and go over in Early November. I'm feeling a big reserved because I think the weather is a bit freakish at the moment anything could happen between here and there.

Lucy so I'm assuming that was the dreaded 'immunes flare' you mentioned, or is it something else. You mentioned a 2-3 week wait if you had another injection, will you be going down that route?

Italiangreyhound · 04/10/2011 16:00

wellerbabe good luck with the stalking.

Rowing good luck, all the best. Keep us posted. Thanks for asking and I really will shut up now after this but as you asked my frostie embie cell numbers were:
Serentis (8)
Jenever(6)
and
May (4)

Paschal and Cielo were both 4-celled each and grade 2, but the reason they have fewer cells is because they were put back in a day earlier, so the others continued to grow, although as you can see May really is the underdog!

Keziahhopes · 04/10/2011 16:29

Hi. Read all posts but not good at typing on dh's mobile. Hope all ok for everyone.

Well guess had my immune flare, got infection despite antibiotics so in hospital for IV antibiotics. Heard heartbeat so hope all ok. No scan for 2 weeks so just have to hope all I need is antibiotics as not under ivf clinic since week 8. My clinic not do detests etc.

marmitemad · 04/10/2011 19:35

keziah praying you get to go home soon, can't believe they won't scan you but hearing the heartbeat is a good sign.

I am still lurking, teeny bit frustrated as waited for post lap review appt last week which was a waste of time. consultant does not recommend attempting tubal canulization due to my age and risk of further ectopics. so booked in with The Lister for inital consulation but earliest appt available was 27.10.11, wish I had booked in with them weeks ago now. at least I've all the blood tests up to date so hoping we can start asap after 27.10.11.

level · 04/10/2011 22:33

Hi all. AF has arrived on schedule so I don't need to a blood test to know it's over. I think it's a 5 month waiting list before I can try again. Does this sound like a normal length of time?

Pocket1 · 04/10/2011 22:34

Hi everyone

MoJangles i'm so sorry about your news - i really hoped you'd hear otherwise. Will you try again? And yes, my two fingers are there whenever you need them :)

Fretfree how lovely to see your scan and hear a heartbeat... it must be such a wonderful and emotional moment. Did you blub?

Italian how are you and Paschal and Cielo doing? lots of toe tapping?

Wellerbabe good luck with those results. Might i recommend a firm and fiesty approach? Let me know if you need back up as i'm pretty feisty for my height :)

Kezia sending you a hug.

marmitemad at the risk of over-stepping the mark, might i recommend the clinic i'm at (Harley Street Fertility Clinic, Devonshire Street, London www.hsfc.org.uk/). It isn't a fancy clinic but they are lovely, they'll see you quickly and so far, they seem to have done great stuff for me...

As for me, good news as my uber dose of medication has helped my uterus thicken to a level my consultant is happy with - so that's the mock cycle done. We're now officially syncing me up with my donor which i think will take about a month. Not entirely sure of dates dates but potentially looking at mid November transfer - which i find heartwarming and also terrifying.

Hi to everyone else xxx

rowingboat · 05/10/2011 00:10

Hi all,
Italian thanks for the info. I am interested in all that stuff, don't you worry about going on. Smile

Keziah I'm glad you are having attention. Hope everything is sorted out soon and you can relax. Take good care of yourself and teeny chap!

Italiangreyhound · 05/10/2011 03:17

Level Oh dear girl how sad, I am so sorry. I have no idea if 5 months is normal. Is it NHS funded or are you paying yourself. Can I ask how old you are? If you are younger than those months aren't such a big deal. But it is all pants. I am so sorry. Hugs.

marmitemad it's only a few weeks away, it will go fast. You could always ask if they have a cancellation in between.

Keziah Hoping all will be well with you soon, honey.

Pocket fab news for you my dear. Here's hoping all will go well. I have no idea about Paschal and Cielo, I keep swinging between total optimism and total ignorance! I now know why I am so fixated on the frozen embies! Because I've never had frosties before, and because they are safe, and the ones in me are not, they might stick around or they might not. My one experience of IVF last year resulted in them not staying around so I have worked out that that is why I am finding it hard to 'invest' in them, because I am fearful they will not stick around. I had some heavy boob feelings but now they just feel normal. This is so frustrating!

level · 05/10/2011 08:18

Hi Italian - I'm 33.

lucylookout · 05/10/2011 11:36

Level, really sorry to hear that. Hope you're feeling OK (ish).
Italian the waiting is truly frustrating, but Paschal and Cielo are in the best possible place, and great news on the frozen ones too.
Pocket great that things are moving on nicely for you.
Marmite when I had my appt at the Lister they told me that they don't do monitoring cycles, so if you have all the up to date info you should be able to start straight away.
Keziah poor you, what a rotten thing to happen. At least little bub is doing ok.
Rowing yep, I had a flare alright. Turns out my cytokine level went from 34 to 50 after Humira Shock. So yes, another dose of Humira over a course of 2 weeks, then need to wait a couple of weeks after and go in when I get next AF. Although on that subject AF still AWOL (and no, definitely not pregnant), who knows when it'll turn up. I am really going backwards at the moment, not forward.
Wellerbabe stalk away and get those results. Call, email, text, fax everything. Hound her (pleasantly!) until she gives you what you want. As you say, you're paying for it and she's wasting your time. Humph (pent up anger, me? nooooooo)

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rowingboat · 05/10/2011 12:47

Hi all,

Level, I'm so sorry, I missed your post. Sad news that your embie didn't make it. Sad
I'm not sure of your situation, but I was advised to wait 3 cycles before trying again, so 5 months isn't too bad. It probably is quite standard. I hope the next time is successfu.

Lucy, yes a 'flare' or 'explosion' did take place, but it sounds as if it is a known phenomenon. If the doctor looks horrified or faints, then you are probably not the norm, but I suspect that is not the case.
Did the hossy say that Humira can mess with your cycle. I thought it was more of an antibody type of treatment, however, not many medicines work completely in isolation do they, they all seem to bggr up some other, perfectly healthy bodily function.
How are you feeling after the Humira from last time?

lucylookout · 05/10/2011 12:51

Rowing, yes, they said that some women experience a week or 2 AF delay for one or two cycles and that the body normally rights itself after that. I did ask whether mine might have gone forever (I mean come on, that'd be just my luck at the moment) but she seemed to think that unlikely. I actually think I might have ov-ed on the weekend, 2 weeks late, so I'm kind of expecting something at the end of next week. Hope you're doing ok Smile

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beginnings · 05/10/2011 15:18

So much to catch up on!

mojangles and level so sorry to hear your news. Hope you both manage to find a good way forward sooner rather than later.

Lucy sounds like your body is giving you the run around! Hope things settle down.

pocket, Italian and rowing fingers crossed for the progress you all want/need.

AFM, just getting on with life. Two weeks until my 12 week scan which will actually be at 12+5. Am in limbo between clinic and NHS. trying very hard to resist temptation to either a) call my nice scanning lady at the Lister and see if I can pop in or b) google private pregnancy scans.

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