With angel babies in the sky, some of us expecting rainbow babies, others still ttc and definitely swi!!

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started new thread! we do talk a lot, don't we?

Huh. Have just found that thread and read it through. Not a smidgeon of self-assessment or self-doubt - merely I am right and you are all mean b*tches. Honestly. And she got my post deleted and I was proud of it! It was the bitchiest thing I've ever written on here.

Too noticed that there were a few posts deleted. None of us would ever wish the pain that we've gone through to be felt by any other woman, but reality check, it will happen again to someone else. I think we're in the position where we appreciate everything a million times more than other "normal" women (iykwim) x

too I read your post and I couldn't agree more with what you said! Some people are so god damn ignorant! You should be proud of it, I was proud of you.

too didnt get to read your post, but Ive just left one of my own. That women clearly has no feelings and is extremely selfish! And alot of the other posters are too they have obviously no 'empathy'

Good for you

what I dont understand is why she posted in the first place there was already two threads on here about the same subject.

too please give us a low down on what you wrote. Im dying to know now.

this is what I just wrote on there.

anyone out there who's got experiences to share though? I think unless you have had this deep longing and don't have a lot of empathy it's hard to understand.....

OP fair enough you feel like people have jumped on you for what you have said but do you not see how your words in the above sentance are hurtfull? Using the words deep longing and empathy are going to get peoples backs up. Including my own, it has nothing to to with your subject matter as there are already two threads in the conception section talking about this very subject, it is the way you have phrased your opinions. And Im not saying you are not entitled to these opinions but you should use some 'empathy' on a board (conception) that have alot of posters who are desperate for children, even one. They have been trying for years with no success, and some like me who tried for a long time only for it to end in stillbirth. That is deep longing and we have bounds of empathy.

If you want a girl fair enough but dont get upset when somebody takes offence at what you have written which has clearly not been thought out.

I wrote something along these lines:

OP, someone who says that others lack empathy and don't understand the deep longing for a girl frankly deserves a biscuit. There are ppl on here who have had miscarriages, sometimes many miscarriages, failed IVF attempts, stillbirths or who have never been able to conceive at all despite years of trying and medical intervention. I have suffered a stillbirth of a baby girl at 41+3, and while I am pg again and would like a girl as my first died, I don't care which it is so long as I get a healthy baby.

I told her to sod off with her lack of empathy, but I forget just how I phrased it. I said she lacked empathy herself and common sense...It wasn't the original post that riled me so much, it was her response when someone gave her a biscuit and someone else told her to watch what she complained about in TTC. I was kind of expecting a somewhat chastened response, but not a bit of it!

It was one of my more fluent moments, anyway! I'm not really surprised she reported it.

Hi everyone, just popping on as I have been in work and am shattered! Time for an afternoon snooze I think. I have been really busy in the last couple of days as I have started a new job, gone part time in my old one and started this one part time. I am enjoying it at the moment and it is giving me a good focus to stop me counting down the days of this pregnancy!
I meant to say the other day, has anyone else got a green sands sticker on their notes? The ultrasound woman put it on my notes the other day to alert people to the fact I had suffered a loss and hopefully to stop people asking 'is this your first baby?' etc
Sorry you have all been enraged by another stupid gender preference thread. I haven't read that one but I posted on one a while ago where the op was 'gutted' to be having another boy. They drive me mad and there are always nasty people on there. I was told (along with a few others) to stop posting on those threads with our 'tales of woe' I got really offended at that and athough I wouldn't wish what has happened to us on anyone I do wish that they could walk in our shoes for one day and realise the pain we are going through. I honestly think it would make them appreciate what they have a lot more. Anyway, I will try to check in again later, off for forty winks now x

thnxz guys got another scan 23rd ,, urine tests came back fine so dnt know wat the white blood cells were.i think im jus gna stick with consultant and not bother with the midwife. been getting really bad mrning sickness had to get them bands , i think ben lead me on a false line wen i was pregnant with him no sickness ...

Ciwi, I have a green sticker too. The MW has just been here dropping off my notes and she's put the sticker on them. She said the same thing - that it was just to stop people from going straight into the 'is this your first baby?' thing before they got the notes open. Glad work is going well for you, even if it is knackering.

I am appalled to hear that you were told to stop posting with your tales of woe! That's awful! I would have been tempted to ask MNHQ to step in - not quite sure what they would have done, but that's just beyond the pale.

Vicky, glad that your urine tests are fine! Boo for the morning sickness - maybe it means that this baby is a girl.

Don't know which thread you guys were all referring too..but of course I had to go and have a look...
and I quote...' I had counselling for antenatal depression when I was pg. I was having a girl; when I found out I was devastated. I had wanted a boy my whole life.'

ERM LIKE WHAT????!!! Gender disappointment??!! Are these women for real? Obviously they have never lost a baby..or else they would realise how ridiculously selfish and 'me me me' they are being! Jeeezzzz! Silly women. A child is a blessing, not a right, and certainly not something to be mail ordered on demand. off to get a large glass of wine as not pg yet :(

Ciwi I too have a sticker from SANDS on my notes. Though, it hasn t stopped people asking me if this is my first!!!
People: step away from those stupid, pointless threads monoplised by stupid, ignorant people who don t have a clue. It's really not worth you all getting upset about. We all have bigger " fish to fry!!!"
Take care all xxx

Hi all - i agree with AngelGeorgie - step far away from those threads they are pointless how can you think that having a girl or a boy is more important then a healthy and successful pregnancy! but i guess if you have not had a loss/losses then you can post that and people will answer!BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
ahhhh its amazing how tired you get at the beginning of a pregnancy i remember coming home and having a nap!
but glad all is well with u all!
Kitesurfgirl - your time will be real soon! so drink up quickly!!!!!

Ive stepped away from the thread now.

Ive just woken up and my dream is still very vivid, I had another baby and it was a boy, he looked just like Ophelia but with darker hair (she was golden blond) Ive woken up missing him thats how vivd the dream was. So strange.

ciwi has the sticker helped do people stop asking you?

I avoid all threads like that since the one I was on a few weeks ago. I think some people just say things to get a reaction on here a lot.
green they only put the sticker on last week so I suppose only time will tell. I go back to see the consultant in 3 weeks so will see how it goes then.
I am now 12+1 and we have told our families now. We were wondering if we should wait a bit but then thought, when is it safe then? and unfortunately there is never a safe time to tell so we thought we would just do what most other people do and tell at 12 weeks. Has anyone else told people yet? Obviously you will have angel, when did you tell?

Hello all! I was working Thursday and Friday and seem to have got out of the habit of commuting, so I've been knackered when I get home, so apologies for not posting for a couple of days.

too I never got to read your original post on that thread, but I'm glad someone tried to talk some sense into them. I really dislike those threads

ciwi I'm only 6 weeks but I've got to tell my boss next week as there are some things she is expecting me to commit to or overseas trips she needs someone to go on that she will be expecting me to do, that I'm just not going to be able to. I refuse to go abroad away from my doctors. She won't be happy, but I don't really give a stuff. We aren't telling anyone else until after 12 weeks, but we're going to then. Although we aren't going to acquire any stuff for the baby or nursery until after about 34 weeks.

I don't think there will be a sticker on my notes, as the midwives here are crap, but I'm hoping to see the same obstetrician as with the twins, so hopefully there won't be any crapness. I'm going to see the GP on Monday to let her know I'm pg again. Is there anything I should be asking the GP to prescribe, or anything I should be asking them to do, apart from a referral to the hospital?

I think that Sands will send you out those stickers if you need them for your file.
I'm off to my nephew's birthday party. He's 4 today and is an absolute monster! But very funny with it, I think he's mite like 74 sometimes. Hope everyone is good and I'll check back later (symptom spotting like a dafty!!!!!)

symptom spotting here as well... today should be AF day, if I would have a normal cycle...
but so far... nothing yet!

Hi all:
Ciwi unfortunately I have no choice but to tell some people straight away as I returned to work 2 weeks after I got my BFP and had a scan at 6 weeks and needed to start my hormone injections twice a week. So, the practalties denoted my manager etc... Needed to know. I told some of my closest friends then most people knew by 11/12 weeks. Ciwi only you decide when's right for you. I always wished I was allowed the luxury of keeping it a secret for 12 weeks but unfortunately I never got the chance!!!
Whoever was asking??? My mum ordered the SANDS stickers online.
Hope everyone's having a nice weekend? It's lovely to be off work

Dachs, I had to be referred to the hospital and the consultant separately, so maybe make sure you get both done. Hope your boss takes it well!

Everyone already knows about this pregnancy! DH told his whole office at about 6 weeks. Also, I have had about 5 pregnancy-related appts already, so I think work would have guessed anyway.

Green, your dream sounds highly prophetic! FX for you!

Back from the party. Left as soon as the party bags were handed out and the children got stupid kazoo whistle things! My head hurts!!
SIL was there and again never spoke. I just keep thinking it's really funny that mr brother and her think that I'm the one in the wrong even though it was her who didn't bother her arse coming to Ruby's funeral (she couldn't face it!!). And there was me looking forward to it

Anyway onto symptoms, yucky metal taste in my mouth for last 3 days, bigger boobs, sense of smell totally increased and really bad sickness feeling this morning. Cramping has stopped and there's no bleeding at all. Also have frequent mood swings and am shattered. However, I'm waiting for another few weeks before testing. Who knows but I'm trying not to get too infatuated with it. BUT I probably will. Apologies in advance x

Thanks too That's a good tip! :) My boss will not take it well. She will yell and scream (yes, literally) and then strop around the office for a least a week. And then keep pulling me into meetings 3 minutes before I would generally leave the office to get my usual train home. However, if she does I will point out that she is stressing me out and that if she wants me in the office doing any work at all instead of getting my doctor to sign me off sick, then she needs to stop it.

mel Sounds like a fine collection of symptoms you have there! Sorry your SIL is being a pain.

blue Good that AF has not shown up yet. FX for you! :)

Been a bit preoccupied today with dh which took my mind off of myself. Sat at a&e for 5 hours as he woke with a really painful leg (history of dvds and very complicated medical past), so we sat and waited. Has bloods done and his platelet levels are very low at 14. He has ITP but it's been in remission for the past 9 years and it the opposite of the clotting in that he's likely to bleed.

He's been given some tablets for now and being called for a specialist appointment next week. Quite worrying actually. He had to have transfusions previously and they were talking about removal of his spleen so I hope they have different treatments by now!

Got home to find I'd spotted a tiny bit but nothing more since, was red though but waiting to see how things go. I'm 11+3 today and really hoping nothing is wrong. I feel like I live in a soap half the time with everything that goes wrong.

ciwi I don't have a sticker afaik but I'm going to ask when I go in on Tuesday, I already asked at the last hospital but have transferred since. Tales of woe? What horrible people to say that. God forbid it happens to them and they have someone be so disgusting towards them

vicky glad your urine tests were fine. Hope the sickness stops soon

green Vivid dreams like that really do leave you feeling odd, they feel so real. I've been having the feeling for a while now that this baby is a boy, we shall see.

dachs I've only told a few people so far, I'll be 12 weeks on Wednesday. I'm contemplating leaving it longer too.

blue fingers crossed, when are you going to test?

Angel I'll have a look for those stickers too

Too I told people early last time but decided not to this time, going to wait a bit longer I think.

Mel (hugs), can't believe your sil and brother! Similar happened with us and dh's brother and brother's gf. Didn't bother coming to SCarlett's funeral, which upset dh and I a lot. They should have been there to support us and to pay respects to their neice. Sounds promising! I wouldn't be able to wait another 3 weeks though, I'd be testing right now! I have no willpower in that regard

I would love the order those stickers as well for in the future, however I think Sands shipping costs are extortionate! The stickers itself costs 20p but they charge £4.95 to send it, surely it just needs a normal stamp!

Too I don't know! I will probably wait another week if I can keep away from the sticks

cheese hope your DH gets the treatments he needs!

mel I have similar symptoms... just don't dare to hope

diffed good luck with telling your boss! I will probably tell them very early on so I can take it easy. They were very supportive when I lost Sterre, and they know I want to try again... so I see no problems there luckily!

what kind of vaginal discharge do you pregnant ladies have at the beginning of pregnancy? If you don't mind sharing? Trying to figure out if I'm ovulating late again or not...
maybe I should do both an ov and pregnancy test in the morning