With angel babies in the sky, some of us expecting rainbow babies, others still ttc and definitely swi!!

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started new thread! we do talk a lot, don't we?

AF is stupid too I so want to join the BFP club and for it to happen on the 5 month anniversary.

Arh.... Green bugger!!! Think CD 1 is always the crappest then you can get back to it. Positive thoughts for this month.
Jane it's gets annoying when you din t know 1 way or another doesn t it? Hope your body sorts itself out very soon. X
Cheese hugs xxx
Hi Too x
Hope everyone else is ok? Yup, spa break was chilled and u feel very pampered . Had a lovely pre- natal aromatherapy massage. Thoresby Hall is lovely it's just like being out of the world for 3 days I highly recommend it
Just chilling now and a bit of housework. Lovely ( the chilling not housework!!!) xx

I threw away Sterre's BFP stick as it was a Clearblue digital and the text disappeared of the screen after a day or so. I threw it out before we lost her and regret it now :( luckily I have a picture of it! So I ordered 40 ovulation tests and 10 pregnancy ones. As I will be ov testing every day now, still have a few left from my previous order. I still have one Clearblue digital pregnancy test, as I bought a 2 pack when I was pregnant of Sterre, as I couldn't quite believe that it was gonna be a BFP from the first test, as I had tested negative twice before on cheapo tests.

Felt too tired for some swi-ing last night but managed to wake DH up getting him in the mood Said I would wake him up like that every morning he didn't say no to that :)

Now getting reading to meet a lovely lady I met on the Christian prayer thread, we're meeting up for a coffee/hot chocolate at a shopping centre nearby!
And when I get back home it's tidy up time, as we're having a work meeting in our messy living room tonight.

green order here

enjoy your day ladies!

green, bummer :(

cheers blue they are the same ones I use for ov, so might order them once I get paid at the end of the week ready for this cycle.

I have just been looking through the miscarriage campaign on here, very interesting reading, I filled in the questionaire for them (due to the cp I had couple of months back) I also put stuff down about how I was treated by the gps surgery when I rung them for an appointment due to the miscarraige. I also stated that I got more support and diagnosis on here with you girls than I did with the surgery.
I also wrote in my post that I dont think the booking in appointment is adequate or the information you receive and I think the whole care during pregnancy needs to be overhaulled. I dont think its right that we are left alone till we are rung up by the midwife to book your booking in appointment. Did this happen to you girls aswell? Did it happen this time around as well the girlies who are now pg?

green so sorry about the bfn and the witch, it really is a bummer. Treat yourself to a large glass of wine tonight, that's what I used to do and lot's of pma that this is the month.
I don't bother with the midwife, I rang my consultants secretary, she booked me in to see the midwife and the consultant. My main gripe with care after a mc is that when I had the scan to check if the mc was complete they sent me to the main ultrasound department where everyone was getting 20 week scans and coming out with pictures of their baby - very insensitive I thought.
blue fx you have just wasted your money on those ov tests and you only need the pg ones x
angel that spa sounds lovely, I am very

green i hope you are ok today. Zoe will be gone for 7 months tomorrow.

Green I ve never been rung up by my MW to make my appointment I ve had to do it every time myself. As I ve said before I ve been very happy with medical care. I ve always found the community midwives a bit hit and miss. They don t do anything I can t do for myself.
Hi Ciwi yes, was a fab weekend.
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Hope everyone's having a good day? Xxx

angel agree with you about the community midwives, Midwives at the hospital were amazing. Hospital care is amazing I find its community care and some GP's that are crap.

Hey Green I hope you feel like I did this month when she arrived. A little bit disappointed but happy that I knew where I was iykwim. I just did in OV test which although not positive there was a faint line - scrap that just double checked it and it is positive. Do you think that DH will be getting out the door tonight to go to the gym??? Workout of another kind I think :o

I also filled in the questionnaire for them - I have to be honest, my treatment was really OK as I didn't go through my GP and the midwife at the surgery. I went directly through my consultant which is what they told me to do and which is what I'll do the next time I get the positive test. I could just be imagining it but I think that my GP's nose was slightly out of joint when I told her that I went to them first and not her. Not that she was bad or anything but just that I wanted to get more care from the specialist dept.

Angel glad that you had a fab time at the spa. I am in sore need of a decent massage to sort out my dodgy neck! Maybe next month when I break off on AL.

Jane glad that you enjoyed the wedding - fingers crossed for you that you get the BFP (obviously preferable) or that AF arrives to help you start counting again.

Cheese Hope the pain starts to lessen so that you can try and "enjoy" some of this pregnancy.

I have now completed the formal grievance form for my work and it will be getting submitted to my line manager tomorrow. The welfare officer said that he takes his hat off to me for doing it but doesn't think that it'll go anywhere. I told him as long as it was flagged to the big Managers, I didn't care. I know that there is nothing that I can obtain from this but if it helps them realise how poor and how lacking in empathy they have been throughout all of this and makes sure that they don't treat anyone else like me then I've succeeded.

I'm doing the parents story on Friday at my Sands meeting. Feel OK about doing it but have written it all down and have been practicing it and can't get through it without crying. At least everyone there will know how I'm feeling which should make it a wee bit easier.

Hi everyone else (sorry for the epic post - this is what happens when I sit at an actual computer!!)

Hello!

Mel, hope the grievance gets somewhere and you make it better for the next person, like you say. Good luck at Sands on Friday! You'll do brilliantly, crying or no crying. I don't think it will matter if you cry, because they'll all be used to it.

Green, agree that care during pg needs to be overhauled, but not sure what exactly to suggest. Maybe more scans later on to pick up potential issues would help. I phoned the MWs and made an appt both times. My community MW has been good most of the time (some excellent care, such as immediately after the birth, and she's now giving me home visits; some bad, such as when she forgot to take blood from me after I was discharged from hospital, and when she forgot to do urine samples a couple of times during Thea's pregnancy). The labour ward MWs were wonderful, but the Triage ones were very dismissive (and perhaps I'm biased, because Thea died when I was in Triage waiting to be 3cm, so I hate everyone who examined me and didn't pick up any problems. Rational or not!).

Angel, glad you had a lovely time being pampered. Don't do too much housework!

Cheese, I hope you feel better soon. All your aches sound like a lot to deal with.

It's my booking scan tomorrow - I thought it was at 9 and it's actually at 1.30, so I will have to go into work and explain! Oops. I am a tiny bit petrified. I hate the run-up to scans. They are fine once the technician has said she can see the heartbeat, but I hate it beforehand. It doesn't say anything in the letter about taking nuchal bloods, so I am going to ring them in the morning and ask. And stamp my feet if they try to fob me off.

I made DH cry yesterday . I am evil. I shrieked at him when he wanted me to cook. He admitted later on to worrying about the scan too, which might have something to do with the crying. I also cried buckets at my new book (the new Penny Vincenzi) because there is a really sad bit about a baby . Why do people write such things? The author has the choice to make it happy or sad, so why choose sad?

Too will be thinking of you tomorrow xxx like you I always like to have scans as early as possible to get them done. Xxx
Mel good on you for putting your grievance in writing xx

Mel good luck for Friday, I think you're very brave to do that. I've mentioned about Scarlett to people in real life but never anything like that where people are focused on you and it's all about what you're saying. I hope you get somewhere with work too.

Too Trying not to take anything too often and relying on resting when I can and baths etc. My leg's hurting a lot today too and I couldn't walk very far, oh joy. Good luck for tomorrow, they might send you for the bloods after the scan, they did that with me.

Angel me too re scans, I hate the afternoon appointments as I'm waiting and worrying all day.

Hi girls, too and cheese I have just been lurking on the thread you both posted on earlier. why do people take risks with their babies? I just don't understand it grrrr. I was going to post too but it seems like there is no telling her so decided to leave it.
too good luck for your scan tomorrow x
mel glad you are taking things further with work, they need to know they can't treat people like that. Happy ov! fingers crossed you catch that egg this month x

ciwi I just looked again and almost posted again but thought there was no point too. Some stupid comments, just winds me up. If they went through what we did there wouldn't be any question about it, you can read as many studies as you like but that doesn't make you any less at risk...grr

grrr why do I only just read this and realise I shouldn't be doing ov tests in the morning!

blue did exactly the same thing. Its a pain too that you have to do them at that time trying to do them at the same time everyday when I work is a nightmare, its so much easier to do it when wake up. I have to do it when I come in from work at 4.45pm.

blue thats a good link, really interresting.

cheese it drives me mad when people get bogged down with statistics, the risk for all of us was between 0.5 and 1%. In my opinion it either happens to you or it doesnt, it's not comforting when you lose a baby to know that the risk was small, it might as well have been really high. I just fail to understand why anyone would take any amount of a risk to their baby. Anyway, plenty of people told her she was being foolish and she chose to ignore those comments so there is nothing else that can be done, I just hope her baby is ok.
blue I eventually learned a pattern with mine, I did test in the morning, if I got a positive I would test again in the afternoon to double check so I think everyone is different. I also found the tesco ov sticks would start off light and then get darker over a couple of days till it was positive, that was really useful. The ic's however gave me a positive but it was short lived. If you are using ic's it might be worth doing one in the morning and the afternoon so you definately know when is best for you to test x

ciwi what thread is this?

I am no good at links but it's on the pregnancy topic and the title is 40+10 and refused induction. I read it because I thought the hospital had refused to induce her not the other way round. Lots of talk about it being her body, her right ect, drives me mad, I would have happily been split in two if it meant my baby would survive. They just have no clue about the pain of losing a baby grrrr again!

ciwi those threads are really upsetting, they have no clue. And never will unless it happens to them, they think they are invincible. We are the only ones who know that you are never invincible when pg. All we can do is try and put our point across and if it doesnt sink in, to think that we have done our best, thats all we can do.

I bought a charm bracelet off my friends facebook business, its a pandora style rainbow colours, I bought it as it was rainbow coloured and I thought it can be my lucky charm for a rainbow baby. Im wearing it now.

I see what you mean ciwi they dont understand. But then again that poster who has be told off for policing the thread (which she is) weve had run ins with before on gender threads. Some people just love jumping on the old band wagon and turning stuff into rights of the mother or rights of the woman instead of thinking about the bigger picture.

that sounds lovely green I think lucky charms really help you feel positive. We saw the pope in rome the month we concieved this time and just after I got my bfp we saw a rainbow in the sky. Whenever I worry I keep telling myself that Ciwi sent us that rainbow to let us know that everything is going to be fine. I know I shouldn't but I couldn't help having a sneeky peak at some of the next baby stuff. They have 2 babygro's on there, one says I am a little sister and the other says I am a little brother. As I don't have any other dc's I want to get one for this baby (all being well)as a way to include and acknowledge Ciaran in things - does that sound daft?

I agree with you there green, I think it should be less about separating the "rights" of the woman and their body and more about just the actual safety of the baby. I'm sure noone wants anything to happen to their baby but you also have to be realistic and realise that things can and do happen, no matter how "safe" you think you're being. So what if the induction ends in intervention? I'd rather than any day than a dead baby. Give me a cs if needs be as well, recovery time is worse but if the baby's ok then that's all that matters imo.