With angel babies in the sky, some of us expecting rainbow babies, others still ttc and definitely swi!!

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started new thread! we do talk a lot, don't we?

Hi too glad you got the aspirin sorted, I was initially given the dispersible ones but I found them hard to take so I started buying the enteric coated ones, my consultant says that either is fine. yay for booking scan, is it a bit late? thought you were 12 weeks already

cheese sorry you are feeling headachey. I've had a headache for four days now and nothing seems to shift it. People have recommended that I try a ho0t pack or a cold pack on the back of my neck, so I may try that tomorrow if it's still here. I hope you feel better soon. xxx

too Hope your headache also gets better soon. I can't believe your booking scan has come around already! Time in other people's lives seems to go a lot quicker than my own . Yay for having bank sorted. Enjoy having money! :)

Ciwi, it is a bit late - I'll be 12+6 by then. I am a little confused by nuchal bloods - do they take the blood samples at the same time as scanning me, or do I have to get the community MW to do it?

Hope your headaches go away, Cheese and Dachs. Mine has gone after a nice long sleep and a walk this morning.

Dachs, ordering furniture stuff sounds like good fun! Enjoy.

green it's horrible isn't it, especially when there's not much you can do about the pain.

ciwi ah, I hope your doppler goes well. Do they think the growth will be similar this time or is it just to be sure? My gp told me a couple of weeks ago that he'd seen new evidence that questioned whether even paracetemol was completely safe to take and so advised trying to take nothing at all! I must admit, I've have to take paracetemol a few times though because I just couldn't stand it, even then it didn't do much to help at all.

Too Still have a headache, going for a walk soon shortly too, getting ds2 some fresh air. He should be ok now in his wheelchair as it's not too bumpy outside, have to be careful of his foot. Blood sugar is slightly raised after insulin still but I spoke to the hospital last night and they'll leave it as is for now and I need to call my numbers in again on Thursday unless they get worse.

I was 13+4 when I had my dating and nuchal scan, it's fine up until 13+6 but is more accurate at 12 weeks. They take the blood on the same day, should send you elsewhere in the hospital for it, if they're done on a different day then they're not accurate.

Dachs I thought about trying those cool headache/migraine sheets, don't think there's anything in them that shouldn't be used during pregnancy. It's really getting me down now. Constant throbbing and aching.

Off out to see the sunshine for a bit shortly, hope you all have a good day.

too I turned down the nuchal scan as I felt that getting a potential risk number would just stress me out and I wouldn't get an amnio anyway, glad to see that cheese has already answered your question though as I haven't a clue.
cheese I am at risk of pre eclampsia again but it tends to happen later on if it does happen so fingers crossed the baby will be old enough and big enough to be born if I do get it again. I think they are scanning me at 18 weeks to check the blood flow to try and identify a potential problem before it affects the growth iykwim. I am really hoping the scan will just be normal as that will give me a much better chance of getting far along enough
Hope everyone has a lovely weekend xxx

Hi ladies, I am so tired today. Only had 4 hours sleep after nightshift but that's me on days off now. woo hoo! We have the in laws coming round for tea tomorrow so need to try and get myself organised and get stuff made. Veggie lasagne and normal to be made. Hopefully won't fall asleep in the sauce!

Also went up to see Ruby this morning as it's 6 months since she was born. DH bought 2 doz red roses for her and I was so sad when I stupidly said something about the amount of roses he'd bought and he replied "I'll get what I want for my wee girl". Tears a plenty. Never mind, we all have these milestones to deal with x

Mel hugs, I found 6 months difficult, it will be 9 months for us soon. We saw Scarlett today too, it was nice. How are you feeling now? x

ciwi Do you know if you're likely to get it again? I had PE with dd1 but didn't get it again. I'm more at risk now I have GD but taking it one step at a time. I didn't get it until late on and went into labour at 36 weeks anyway when my waters broke so I didn't need to be induced. You're just ahead of me on weeks aren't you if I remember right?

mel . Sorry you had a hard day. The roses sound lovely. I hope the lasagne goes well tomorrow! :)

We had some casts made of the twins hands and feet and today we had to choose the ones we wanted made up properly and framed. That was hard. They were so tiny :( DH was finding it really hard, - he had tears in his eyes and he almost never gets emotional.

cheese I have been told I have a 30% chance of getting it again but that is at any stage of pregnancy, the consultant has said that he only knows one person who has lost a baby to it twice and that person had a significant underlying condition that meant she was very high risk. Fingers crossed if I do get it it will be late on and I can just be induced. Keep telling myself there is a 70% chance I won't get it at all though and like you am just taking it one step at a time.
mel sorry you have had a rough day, 6 months is hard and we all do unfortunately have all these milestones to go through. We are very strong women and will all get through our hard times and make our angels proud of their mummies x
dachs the casts sound lovely and although things like that can be upsetting in time they will give you lovely keepsakes and memories of your babies x
I have been to the pub today with mum, dad and dh. It was a nice day and my dad told dh that he thinks I look happy lately, thought that was nice to hear. You don't always realise that other people can tell when you are having a bad time but obviously they can if they notice when you are doing better.

Mel, sorry you had a hard day. Our 6 month anniversary was 14 Sep, the same day as DH got turned down for that job. Not a good day!

Dachs, the casts sound so sweet! We didn't get casts - we had ink hand and foot prints. DH has a silversmith friend who did us little silhouettes of the handprint cut out of silver - we wear them as necklaces.

Cheese, thanks for the info re nuchal blood tests. I shall make sure they take the blood on Wed!

I have just tried the wedding ring gender prediction thing . It says boy! Has anyone else tried it? I didn't try it with Thea, so I have no idea if it works or not.

dachs we had casts too, the hospital took them and it was all free of charge. We have them hanging in the dining room along with the other childrens' ones.

ciwi I hope you don't get it too or at least late on, will be so stressful for you worrying about that as well. Will they be taking regular bloods to check for it too?

Too I've heard of the wedding ring prediction but have no idea how to do it!

I'm getting the hand of these injections now, usually only takes a few seconds to build up the courage to do it rather than minutes! We had the doppler out again today and heard the heartbeat again, was very reassuring. I still think a boy and dh thinks girl, one of us is right!

Even though I have a bump I still don't really feel pregnant, 15+1 today too, it's so surreal. I hope I'll start feeling it soon as I'm starting to feel guilty about it.

too Wedding ring predicted boy for me too, but I've got 31 weeks to wait to find out if it is accurate! :) Chinese gender predictor says girl. Home POAS kit was inconclusive. (Not that I'm desperate to find out or anything! :) ) I was thinking of getting one of the casts made up as a necklace but I couldn't come up with a design I liked that had something from each twin and I refuse to wear just one, so we're just having them made up in bronze and framed, with their names carved into the frame.

We're not sure whether to put their date of birth on the frame with their names or not - what do you guys think? I think it would look better with just their names and we're not going to forget their birthday, but DH thinks it would be nice to include the date to memorialise it a bit more.

cheese Good to hear the injections are going well. :) of being able to hear the heartbeat on a Doppler! :) Don't feel guilty about anything. Being pg again after what we've been through is always going to be hard and we won't have any of the same feelings as a person who hasn't been through it. There is no right or wrong way to feel, we just have to get through it as best we can.

ciwi Glad you had a nice day yesterday. I hope today has been equally good :)

You tie a hair (or a thread if you have short hair) to your wedding ring and dangle it above your tummy. If it swings in circles it's a girl; if it pendulums back and forth it's a boy. I tried and DH tried and it swung like a pendulum both times!

Glad that the injections are getting easier - the bravery! Ooh, I am getting closer to the time when a doppler would probably work.

I don't really feel pregnant either. My jeans are tighter and my tummy is bigger but it's not really a fully-fledged bump, if you know what I mean. I had forgotten how much pregnancy there is before you can actually see/feel anything much. In the What To Expect book it says repeatedly that symptoms may include a sense of incredulity about the pregnancy, right up until at least week 20. You've got no cause to feel guilty - you've got heaps to deal with as it is, what with both DH and DS2 being ill and your injections and the car crash, not to mention all your Scarlett-related emotions. I'm not surprised that this pregnancy is sort of taking a back seat at the moment. I think it is quite normal in anyone to feel a bit unreal about the whole thing - the last thing you remember is late pregnancy, with all the discomfort and the hugely obvious bump - this stage where everything is muted and small doesn't seem like the same at all.

X posts, Dachs - hi! Chinese gender prediction (found in an ancient Beijing tomb ) says girl for me too. Will try nub theory after scan on Wed!

Not really sure which way to jump on the date/frame dilemma because I haven't seen the frame in question. Hmm. Like you say, you won't ever forget the date, so it isn't really necessary. On the other hand, it doesn't hurt to have it included! (I'm a huge help, really!)

dachs that sounds really lovely. This is what ours looks like imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/img0137ic.jpg/ I found a lovely place for baby loss items here www.alexandrasangelgifts.co.uk/ maybe something that could work for you?

It's really hard though, I keep thinking that I should be bonding more and "feeling" more pregnant, like last time.

Too Just did it and it came up girl! As did the chinese gender predictor! I'm sticking with boy though for now. I'm going to find out at the next scan, still not decided to pay for a private one in a week or so or not. I think I was 9 weeks when I first heard the heartbeat? Can take a while that early though.

Yes you're right, it is early on still so I should have expected to feel this way! Some days I've even dared to think about bringing a baby home this time and then stopped myself quite quickly. It feels like tempting fate in some weird way.

Oh Too I tried the nub theory one and I think it's a boy from that too, I feel a boy too but I really don't care as long as this one comes home with us. Maybe I feel boy from early on because Scarlett was a girl and I need this pregnancy to be different? I think about and analyse things far too much can you tell?!

cheese I keep checking the hb on the doppler, I know I shouldn't but it is reassuring. They are going to monitor my blood pressure very frequently and regular scans, don't think they can do a blood test for pre eclampsia. Also don't worry about the bonding thing, I was worried about that and talked to my acupuncturist about it and she said I shouldn't be too hard on myself, I have been through a lot and it will right itself. I also know the love I felt for Ciaran as soon as I saw him and I know I will feel the same about this baby so try not to worry too much.
too will have to try some more gender things, I tried the nub theory and that says girl but I am not sure I did it right.

I told my obs I was really worried about bonding with this pg and couldn't see how I was going to be able to after last time, and that I was worried about bonding with the baby when it comes out if I can't bond with the pg. He said that in his experience some people don't bond that much with the pg after a late loss but it doesn't stop the feelings flooding in really strongly when the healthy baby pops out. It's a defence mechanism but not something to be worried about. He's not expecting me to be able to feel positive at all about this pg until well after 28 weeks, and for people with a later loss than I had, he wouldn't expect them to bond until even later.

Can someone explain nub theory to me? :)

:)

Has anyone tried the baking soda test? There are lots of US sites that recommend it (wee makes it fizz with a boy, doesn't fizz if it's a girl) but wouldn't ALL liquid make baking soda fizz?

I tried all that gender prediction stuff last time and it was false, it told me I was having a boy and had a girl. Its just a bit of fun really. The only one who was right was my husband. Also when my mum was pg with me she was told I was a boy as my heart rate was in the boy zone and well it was wrong!

I have convinced myself over the weekend that Im pregnant. Its CD28 today and all weekend Ive had a headache and a period like feeling. But no period, I know its early but I just have this feeling that I am, and I need to tell some one as DH has kind of banned this talk untill Im a few days late and we take a test. My nipples are darker too and also a little tender but not as much as last time. Im so hot all the time aswell and tired, keep yawning. Before I was pg I had cycles of 31-33 days but since I have had cycles of 29-31 so maybe I could test tomorrow? I think though if Im not then I will be dissapointed but not as much as I was last time. Its a strange feeling, anyone else felt like this? This is so strange as I thought we might have missed ov but we did swi the day before, god I hate all this waiting, I so desparatley want to go over to sainsburys and buy a stick!

green I was convinced I was pregnant this time from about day 22 so much so that I said if I did a test and it was negative I wouldn't believe it, I just knew I was. I really hope this is the case for you too. My boobs hurt, I felt slightly sickly, felt hot and tired. Fx crossed for you, how many dpo are you?

oh green that would be lovely!

I'm now on CD10 and yesterday I had a little brownish/reddish discharge. I had the same last cycle on CD13 and 14. Never had it before.

thanks ciwi I think Im 13 dpo. Last time though my boobs really hurt and this time they dont but they are very full and nipples are a little tender. This headache I been having though is just what I had when fell pg with Ophelia and I had it a bit when I had my cp.