With angel babies in the sky, some of us expecting rainbow babies, others still ttc and definitely swi!!

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started new thread! we do talk a lot, don't we?

Cheese I don t post on the ante- natal threads. Not interested and couldn t stand to listen to all the innocent ramblings, afraid I may say something to " ruin" their innocence!!!
Too I m fine , thanks. Like u I don t go to ante - natal classes a bit like " being there done that!!" again I couldn t guarantee I wouldn t keep my mouth shut!!!
Hope everyone's ok? Love to all xxx

I've been posting on the "No Brooking" thread in Ante-natal - it is a bit more realistic, as many of the women have had miscarriages or else took many months to conceive. I couldn't post on the March thread - it was too hopeful! I noticed a thread in Pregnancy a wee while ago for women who had suffered mcs or stillbirths, but I haven't posted on it yet. Two threads are enough for me right now!

Too I'd seen the No Brooking thread and wondered about it but thought it might be just for the people from the conception threads, I'll have to give it a look. I've started posted on a GD one but it's fairly quiet. Yes, too hopeful is a good phrase! I envy their innocence in a way as you said Angel, the innocent part. I worried about maybe being a little be too "real"? I don't think that's the right word but I can't think of what I want to say. I think that usually in pregnancy the thought of losing your baby after the first few months doesn't even cross your mind really, it didn't mine and I'd bring a little part of that with me; the what can actually happen.

I sometimes read of risks woman are happy to take in pregnancy and I wonder how but then I'm now just jaded I suppose and the risks aren't really that much realistically. As I've been there and done that, as have we all, it seems very much more likely to happen to me again in my mind. I don't even know where I'm going with this now and am rambling so I'll stop!

I know what you mean with the risks. It's like being scared to have even one glass of wine this time, or to dye my hair even though it is horribly two-tone. Those are the things that I was less worried about last time. I dyed my hair in the second trimester (home dye kit, not in a salon), and I would have one glass of wine when we went out and now I'm too scared to do anything! Oh, and I wasn't so good at taking folic acid last time either. I did take it mostly, but sometimes I would forget.

Too yep same, I was pretty careful last time as it was after crap pregnancies but this time I'm scared of everything!

Been to out of hours with ds2, his asthma has been worse so we've got some steroids for him now and see how he gets on. Was up for hours in the night with him and the poor thing is so tired, as am I!

How is everyone today? x

cheese hope your DS2 is getting better.

Im good kind of chilled as I think due to the arguement this past week me and DH have missed ov time. So got nothing to stress about other than shit we missed it! Anyway DH is out riding his bike round the Isle of Wight all 70 miles, and weve just had a huge thunder storm with lots of rain, poor him I hope hes not too wet!

I spent all last pg being very good, pg vitamins, no alcohol, if DH heard about anything that could harm the baby I wasnt aloud to touch it this included sesame seeds! Never heard of it myself but he wouldnt let me eat anything that might have sesame seeds in it.

Morning girls

cheese I hope your DS is feeling better, poor wee guy!

I know what you all mean with taking risks during pregnancy, with Zoe I was very careful to avoid everything on the naughty list.
DF has just informed me he has stopped drinking alcohol to help with the ttc and in turn i should stop my cofffee. I only have one coffee in the morning, will this be hindering our ttc attempts?

I just stopped my DH from drinking coffee as I had heard somewhere that its not good for sperm. I might have made it up but caffinene isnt good for you anyway.

Hello girls, I've not posted on here before but have been watching this thread. Its given me some comfort, the support you give eachother - I think you are all amazing.

I lost my perfect baby boy, Jacob, at 35 weeks pg in August. I'm doing ok most of the time now but think about him constantly and what might have been. The sadness and pain hasn't gone away but I'm feeling better able to cope, ready to post on here and hopefully join you all on your journeys.

Two of my best friends are due to have their babies at the beginning of October and I just found out another friend has just conceived after lots of failed attempts at IVF. I'm so happy for them all, a bit worried about how I might be when I see them with their babies but ready to cry some more.

At the moment I often feel like I just want to be pregnant again but its very scary, I've lost all confidence. My DH says he'll support me whatever but I think he really wants to try again so I think we're just going to see if it happens...

Welcome AugustMoon so very sorry you had to find us here! What a beautiful name for a perfect little boy! Do you know what went wrong? If you want to talk about it?

I know very well what you mean of friends being pregnant! I was the first of 3 friends to get pregnant, but then I lost our little girl in June at 20 weeks pregnant. One friend is due end of December, another half February. It is very confronting seeing them with their big pregnant bellies, while I should have been almost 8 months pregnant by now! I don't know how I will be when their babies will be born, but I hope that I'll be pregnant again by then and that will make it easier to cope!

Hi Blue, so sorry to hear about your baby girl.

We don't know what went wrong, I have my counseling appointment with the consultant at the beginning of October, so will get blood test results back but we chose not to have a pm, it wasn't something we felt we were able to agree to at the time. I hope they can tell us something, it's been a long wait. I had a fall at 33 weeks and keep thinking that might have had something to do with it but I don't really know.

Good luck ttc this cycle I don't know where I am really, I stopped bleeding less than a month ago, after I had Jacob, but have had another really small "period" last week. It's early days though...

Hi Augustmoon, I am so sorry to hear about your little Jacob. Eight weeks After my Zoe fell asleep my friend gave birth to a little girl, so I know how you feel. I was very nervous about meeting her but it was fine, in the end I was so relieved that she made it safely into the world.

This is a great thread, the girls are so supportive and here for the hand holding when it is needed. I really do wish you well and all the luck in the world with your ttc journey.x

Went back to the gp today with ds2, he's got a chest infection, so anti-biotics and more steroids for his asthma. Hopefully this will do the trick.

Has anyone had nuchal results yet? I got a letter with mine in this morning and it was 1:600 which isn't high risk but it feels high to me :(

green I've not heard that about sesame seeds, why are they risky? I just drink decaff now really. Hopefully you didn't miss ov completely, fingers crossed.

August hi, so sorry to hear about Jacob. We lost our little girl at 37 weeks, Scarlett.

jane I agree, this thread is amazing and has been so helpful.

cheese turn the ratio around, you have a 600:1 chance of a perfectly healthy baby! (I think I got that right) Is the ratio also including blood results?

jane yes it is including bloods. I know that, realistically, it's low risk but the risk of stillbirth is low and that happened so that's why this doesn't feel low risk. My free beta hcg results were high which caused the higher number, I called the number on the letter to ask but the other thing they measure and the nuchal fold were both spot on. Now worrying about that high too.

august so sorry that you have found yourself here, but also so glad that you have. We lost my Ophelia at 36 weeks in April. I understnad what you have said about losing your confidence. I was a member of a NCT group and well we had to hear about all their babies coming into the world, and it was sad but also a huge relief that they were all safe. My brothers wife had a baby boy 6 weeks ago aswell, he was prem but hes fine now. My DH said it was like we had all the bad luck so that they had healthy babies. Be gentle with yourself, and if you get upset, stressed, or anything post on here.

Ive just been given good news for my TTC for the next few months well untill the end of February I shall be working in the office! Yayyyyyy so no chemicals, heavy machinery, animal feaces etc! So all good for TTc all I need now is a BFP! Even though I know we have probably missed it this month I still cant help thinking what if we hadnt, what if I am pg and then thinking shut up green you know your not! Oh well roll on next month.

Green that's fantastic news about work. Things will work themselves out and this is maybe just the wee break needed for next month.
August sorry you're here, but hope you find the support and comfort you need. My Ruby was born sleeping at 27+3, 3 days after her big cousin was born. Think I have a really special bond with my nephew cause of this.
Cheese hope the antibiotics work and you get a nice germ free family back v soon!
I'm now in the process of the grievance procedure against the HR dept at my work. Got another letter at the weekend which was completely unsympathetic stating that I'd been absent from work cause of a mc. How about remembering the stillbirth before it? That's the real issue. Anyway, trying not to get too stressed about it. But taking it all the way so that there is something done officially.
Big waves to everyone x

Hi jane, Cheese, green and Mel, thank you all for your kind words. Really sorry to hear about your babies too.

green what do you do for a living that brings you in to contact with chemicals, heavy machinery and animal faeces?!

Hi augustmoon sorry for your loss xx my DD ; Georgie was stillborn at 41 weeks on 10 th October 2010 due to E coli. I hope you have RL support you will find you need it. You will get through just takes a lot of hard work and patience. Xxx
Green good news x
Cheese good news sounds a very low risk x
Hi all; hope everyone's ok? Xxx
Busy weekend didn t get home from my parents to 9 pm last night then busy at work today ; conducting appraisals etc ... Love to all xxx

Hi people!

August, nice to meet you and I'm so sorry to hear about your baby Jacob. My little Thea was stillborn at 41+3 on 13 March, but we don't know why, not even after the full PM. I hope you get an answer at your consultant meeting. Glad to hear you're up to joining us here - come and chat as often as you like. Someone's always here and they're always sympathetic and supportive. I'm now pg again, currently 11+4. I hope you get pg quickly!

Angel, take it easy and don't work too hard!

Mel, your work have been horrible to you from Day 1! I hope this is the spur they need to behave properly.

Green, yay for the desk job! Now get on with the swi - you never know! FX that you ov twice, or something, and this month is it after all!

Cheese, I don't get my nuchal bloods taken until next Wed and then I'll have to wait for the results. I don't know anything about the levels, but I know what you mean about 1:600 suddenly not sounding like good odds! We had the same conversation about the risks of CS - DH said ok the risks are small, but so are the risks of stillbirth and look what happened there. What does your MW say about it? You know that it will probably be fine, and there's also the 20 week scan (and any others you get) to doublecheck things - try not to freak out too much (easier said than done, I know). Poor DS2, he's been in the wars recently! Hope he gets better soon. How's DH doing?

Jane, I don't think one cup of coffee will affect your chances! Your DF giving up alcohol sounds more likely to help. I don't really drink coffee because it makes me go all shaky, but I do drink tea. I try to limit myself to 2 mugs a day, but they are big mugs! I drink decaff at home in the evenings. On the dodgy foods front, did anyone hear that fat-free yoghurt is now suspected of causing asthma in babies? I've been eating heaps of low-fat yoghurt!

Angel when does your maternity leave start dearest?

green yay for the staying away from dangerous stuff at work!

cheese do you play on the lottery? cause if you do, I think there should be a win in it for you rather soon with everything you've been going through lately

Too are you really 11+4 already! wow time goes quick, it only seems like yesterday when you had your BFP!

I will be giving up alcohol from Sunday! Will be going out with a bunch of girls on Friday and after that... no more!
Oh yeah... I have been eating Manuka honey as well, there is thread that talks about it helping to conceive I only bought a jar in Aldi which is 10+ strength, so not the very expensive stuff, but well it can only help

cheese please don't think too much about the risks! I felt guilty at first for not having the nuchal scan done, well we did have it done, but Sterre was being stubborn and not in the right position. But we didn't mind as we would have continued anyway! Of course if we would have known, we could have been prepared. But the consultant said that they can't really notice triploidy at a 12 week scan, only the more invasive tests can point it out!

Mel has your AF finished already?

Hi Blue my mat leave starts on 7 th October. I ve got to Thursday this week then I m away for 3 days. Next wk; AL then 1 week left et work. Quite frightened of finishing at work ; obviously if all works out as should will be great but having been here before ( at virtually the same time last year) it scares me as I feel life as only just returned to some degree of normality after loosing Georgie. However, what can you do?? Life does not stand still. As one oft friends said , when I was in the midst of grieving :" life is transient it moves whether we want it to or not? Be it good or bad".
Hope you re ok? Fx this month is yours!! Xx
Awake again at stupid o clock!!

Angel I suppose that friend hit the nail on

Oops..... The head. I firmly believe what's meant for us won't go past us. Sucks sometimes though.
Yep Blue all done. 4 days this month which was a bit shorter but I'm thinking it was like that cause of the "clear out". Got my shifts all worked out and we're clear for a good run around ov time. And who says romance is dead???

Good going Mel he he !!! " romance" what's that ????