With angel babies in the sky, some of us expecting rainbow babies, others still ttc and definitely swi!!

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started new thread! we do talk a lot, don't we?

Angel that scan will be difficult for you :(

blue that doesn't sound good at all. I'm lucky to have a really good dr that goes out of his way to help, in fact all the drs there are really lovely.

ciwi I've been in mat clothes for a while now, tops are ok the longer ones at least, but jeans/trousers I haven't been able to wear the usual ones for weeks.

Getting blood out has been hard the last few times, it's taken me 3 or 4 attempts at pricking to get enough blood to test with! My poor fingers hurt!

Ciwi I find maternity clothes crap. I tend to buy fatty clothes from " new look" from their inspire range. Jeans I have found an absolute nightmare. I got a couple of pairs from Asda and find they re either too loose and I have to wear a belt, then too tight if I ve got a belt on!!! I m mostly living in linen trousers from New Look. Very difficult and than god I ve got an uniform for work now ( we used to wear our own clothes). Hope you feel less sickly soon xxx

Cheese, sorry to hear about the GD. Hopefully this will be the last shock for a while and you can relax a little. Try not to think like that about Scarlett - from what you've said in the past, it could well have been a cord accident and that would have nothing to do with GD. They didn't flag up anything like that in her PM, did they? Be gentle on yourself - it's not your fault.

Blue, at your doctor and the mess up with your medical notes! Pelvic floor op my ass! Maybe try making an appt with the doctor you like and going into all of it in more detail? As Ciwi says, it might be worth trying to stick to one nice doctor even if it means waiting longer for appts. My MW arranged for both DH and I to see the same doctor after Thea was born and she has always been really nice to us both. The slight downside is that now I am ashamed to go in for something trivial like a verruca because she's been used to dealing with me for grief and stress! (But the verruca needs to come off one day so I will have to bite the bullet eventually) FX that your BFP will come along soon and cheer you up (and you too, Mel!).

Angel, 6lbs with a month yet to go - wow! What a little sweetheart. Glad to hear all is well. I'm fine for just now - booking scan not til 28th so am trying not to think about it too much yet.

Ciwi and Cheese, I had my maternity jeans on on Thurs because I only have one pair of normal jeans that fit and they were in the wash! My normal jeans are a size bigger than usual (post-preg cheapo jeans so I had something to wear) - I was only just back into my pre-preg jeans with a shoehorn so hopefully those will do for a wee while. I need new bras, though.

I mean, I was only back into my pre-pg jeans for about a week before getting my BFP and promptly outgrew them again. Ah well.

Angel, I find maternity trousers in general awful - they don't stay up properly and I spend my whole time yanking them up. I can see why dungarees used to be so popular. Might actually consider getting a pair for weekends for sheer comfort. I wore dresses to work almost continually after about 28 weeks the last time - the trousers were just too uncomfy. When I was on mat leave I wore non-pg joggers, but I wore holes in the crotch so they've been binned now and I'll need some more. I refused to wear those anywhere someone might see me, though (ie, Tesco was ok but going into Edinburgh meant a dress and tights!).

Too Well the PM did actually have indications as did I during the pregnancy. I had high sugar levels in my urine on a number of occasions, fluid levels were high which meant she had more room to move, she was bigger than she was supposed to be according to them, organs were enlarged from pm, immature villi (I think that's part of the bowel), so a lot did point towards GD with that pregnancy which could well have contributed. The consultant thought a cord accident as she was wrapped tightly in it but then a lot of babies are born like that, I've read a third of all babies and they're fine. Also she had hypoxia before she died the pm said and this is another thing that untreated GD can cause apparently.

I had symptoms too, I told them a lot towards the end and went in at least 3 times for reduced fetal movements. Maybe if I'd done more or pushed more for something then it wouldn't have happened. The more I think about it and the more I read, the more it seems that the GD played a part in her death and I think I had it as the high sugar experiences I've had recently feel exactly the same as I did with Scarlett at times. It brought back how awful I felt at times.

Nothing we can do now but at least if I'm treated better now then the chances should be lower of it happening again.

Sorry for epic post there, I've not been able to stop all this going round and round my head since finding out more and it's horrible.

I need new bras too, I've been so many different sizes from pre-pregnancy, during, after etc!

Quick post before I head out to work, think that's af coming. Slight spotting. Probably be confirmed tomorrow. Never mind, at least I'm going to know where I'm at x

oh Mel I hope you don't mind me saying that, but I'm happy for you! Now you know what is happening and you can get your DH to work and don't forget to enjoy

Mel (()) it's crap but as we say at least you know what's happening now and can get back to it ASAP. Xx
Too my friends at work have suggested I travel to and from work in joggers and I have to confess in the last 2 weeks I might. I ve got some new jogging bts and I would literally be in and out of the car but still can t quite bring myself to it!!! Mmm .. X

Oh Cheese, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to upset you and I had no idea there were so many indicators with Scarlett. I shouldn't have said anything. Poor you, your head must be spinning right now. I'm sure you couldn't have done any more or pushed any harder - you went in 3 times with reduced movements and you told them about your symptoms - there wasn't anything else you could have done. If you get reassured by HCPs that everything is ok then you do believe them, because they are trained and you aren't. It's good that you have a hospital who are treating you properly this time and they seem to be more on the ball in general.

I know how it feels to be suddenly knocked over by some new information - you start re-evaluating everything that happened and re-interpreting it in light of the news and trying to remember every single tiny detail that might be relevant. It's exhausting and so, so sad. It was like that when the consultant suggested that my care had been sub-optimal - you start picking out every little detail that might have constituted poor care. You've had so much to deal with recently - it's not fair! Come on here and vent as much as you want, or can. I only hope it helps.

Morning ladies, well got dressed for work this morning and my trousers will not fasten up! Put together some hairband style extension to get me through the day and the clothes are definatley going to have to come out of the loft tonight!
cheese sorry I missed you in my post last night, I know it's easier said than done but don't focus on what may or may not have contributed to you losing Scarlett. You won't ever know for definate and unfortunately it won't change anything but just cause you more distress. It is a good thing that they have picked it up early now, hope you are feeling a bit better today x
mel sorry af has arrived, fx you get you bfp this month x
I am off out with my sands friend tonight who I have recently found out is pg too, hopefully we can both support each other through it this time.

Hi girls, yep she's def here. I'm ok though and I've worked out my shifts around ovulation and it works out!!! Hubby can't wait .
Told work last night that I wad struggling a bit and that I want to keep my hours at 6 per shift for the next set at least. Supervisor was fine but he needs to run it past HR. Could see me being signed off yet then depending on what they say.
Ciwi yay to having to get mat clothes out, have to see this as being a good thing. Can't wait til it's my turn for that.
Cheese hugs to you and to your wee ones xx

mel Boo to AF, but at least you know where you are now cycle wise.

Afternoon all. Been an ok day, I've been put on insulin before lunch and before dinner and need to be seen by my consultant and another one on Friday morning. I'm really nervous about taking it but I tried out the needle/pen while we were there and it really hardly hurt at all. Facing a lot of fears!

Looking forward to my scan tomorrow afternoon but also worried that something might be wrong.

Too You didn't upset me! Sorry if I came across that way. My head has been all over the place and I've googled far too much but I'm getting to grips with it. I'm definitely looking at things in a new light, it really takes you back a step. It must have been hard for you as well, that they actually said the care you received was sub-optimal. Venting does help, it's all going round and round in my head otherwise and it helps to make sense of it all.

Mel hugs, sorry af arrived but glad you know where you are now and can get on with trying!

ciwi it's funny how you can suddenly "pop out" overnight :) I know nothing will change, it's just horrible thinking that I may have had GD and had it contribute or cause Scarlett's death. I am glad they've caught me early though.

cheese Im glad you are having a better day, like you say it is good they have caught the GD this early. Google is far too handy sometimes, it has turned into an enemy of mines lately! Good luck with the scan tomorrow, I'm sure all will be well though.

cheese I do understand how you feel, after we lost Ciaran I read that my blood pressure medications might have reduced the blood flow to him. It hit me like a train and I was so upset thinking that if they had left my blood pressure high he might have been ok. It actually sends you into a bit of a panic doesnt it? Anyway I asked the consultant and he said if they didnt treat me I would not be there asking the question, so that helped a bit though I was still thinking what if the dose was lower etc. I drove myself mad until I just vowed to drop it and just live with the fact that Ciaran was with us in his own special way and that's just how it is, how it was meant to be, for whatever reason. Well done you on the insulin, it will become second nature very soon x
Off to meet my lovely sands friend for tea soon, also my local sands are running a bumps and babies group from friday, think I might go along and check it out. Hope everyone is ok today x
too when is your next scan?

Hey girlies.

cheese Im glad you are all kitted out to get through the GD, what a frightening time for you.

mel sorry af is here but fx crossed this is your cycle.

I spent last night in A & E as my FIL had a massive allergic reaction to something, he stopped breathing and his blood pressure went through the floor. Didnt get home till about 3am and couldnt sleep for a while, so ended up having the day of work with DH. FIL is ok now just resting it off, scary stuff. Had my fair share of Hospitals this year, hopefully no more trips this year, well only for happy events.

I spent much of pg in joggin bottoms much to DH's disgust he hates them but they are comfy, dont fall down or dig into the bump, so thats all that matters to me. Cant get me out of them now mind. But thats because cant really get into one than one pair of my pre pg jeans!

Cheese STEP away from " dr" google!! A lot of the info online is not medically factual and will scare you to death!!! I m always telling my patients that. Good luck at your scan. X
green hope FIL is improving. X
Mel hope u re ok?
Ciwi enjoy your evening. Nightmare about clothes!!! Had to borrow a friend's tunic at work as my is tight now and it ll take 2-3 weeks to get some new ones and i ve only got 2.5 weeks left to work!! Hope u re hours get sorted.
Hi everyone. Hope alls well??
Long day at work today ( 11 hours) knackered!! However, saw my consultant this morning: section date in the diary for 18 th October, consent form completed, dates sorted for last scan( now 13 th instead of Georgie's birthday on the 10th), dates for 2x steroid injections pre-op sorted. So good to go!!! Just sit tight GILS!!! Xxxxx

Oh meant Mel hope you rd hours get sorted? X

green that must have been so frightening, I hope fil is on the mend. Have you tested again or did I miss it .

angel Wow systems a go for you. How do you feel?

jane yeah FIL is better.
I am currently SWI ov today I think, will be testing later. Im a bit more chilled this month, last month I was stressed to get pg as it was straight after the CP. FX

Hello all
havent been on for a bit but have read through last two pages for a catch up......stupid siv brain has forgotton lots already!!!
angel our girls at school do recieve the jab but at present the pct come in to give it. Full steam ahead for you what with signatures and dates, lovely.
cheese sorry about the insulin (another thing to do) but really glad that they have got it all sorted out for you. Loads of good wishes for the scan.
green best of luck with swi......enjoy
mel I am glad that you now no where abouts in your cycle you are, fx for this month. Hope work give you what you need.

I had another scan yesterday and am smack on my dates. I am really so very sick, have lost 6lb so far (every cloud ). Have large keytones in my urine and if it doesnt improve i will have to spend a couple of days on the EPU being rehydrated via IV's.

Big hello to everyone that I havent mentioned, hope you are all doing well.

CD42... still no sign of AF... and still being patient!

Blue, wow, that's frustrating! How many days since you tested?

Razz, sorry to hear about the sickness and ketones and such. I hope you start to feel better soon. How many weeks are you now?

Angel, you are such a star to be managing 11 hour shifts! I find an 8 hour working day knackering. Yay for your scan getting shifted so it isn't on Georgie's birthday!

Green, scary stuff with your FIL! Hope he's better now. At least you got a day off out of it!

Ciwi, let us know how you get on at the Sands group. My local one is running something similar and I was wondering about going along. I was considering waiting until I was showing in case they think I'm a fraud, though! My next scan's not until 28th - it's the booking scan.

Cheese, boo about having to inject yourself, but yay that it doesn't really hurt. Hope you get on ok with the consultant and the GD will be manageable once you get the hang of things.

Not very happy with work - DH went for a promotion and was turned down. This is the trouble with us both working for the same organisation - it's too personal! I want to smack the manager involved because he should just have nipped DH's application in the bud a month ago, said sorry, but you don't have an engineering degree and that's all there is to it, not let him apply, ask for a long essay about what he would do with the post and then hold interviews. We really thought DH had a good chance because he hadn't been told sorry, engineers only when he noted interest. DH is miserable and I cried all the way home yesterday .

Jane feel ok. Not concentrating on stuff just day by day. X
Razz hope you feel better when you get some fluids in you . X
Too sorry about DH. Working is fine, apart from cankles!!! I like my job and vast majority of my team. Just finding it hard going getting up and going 5 days a week!!! However, 1 week left then a week of AL.. Odd as feel like I ve only just returned to some degree of normality at work and now ready to go off again.
Hi all hope everyone is well? blue that's some cycle you ce got going on??? !! X

Will catch up later, just posting to say that scan went well, all was fine which is good. Was so nervous before it that I felt sick. Went for the blood test after and he butchered my arm. He was really rough :( Totally unnecessary I thought, my arm is aching now and already bruised. Will post later, sorting dinner for the dcs!