TTC 6+ months plus, part 2

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New thread as the old one was getting to 1000. So, 4 BFP's in the last thread, lets see if we can up the total considerably on this one :)

joycep so sorry you have been feeling down. It's so, so hard isn't it, when I think back to what I was like when we started ttc I can't believe what a struggle it would be and how much distress it would cause. Just know that you're not alone in this, everyone on here knows how you feel.

I've pretty much resigned myself to ivf. I always tend to think of the worst case scenario and what I worry about is that it won't work and we'll never conceive. I try to stop myself thinking about it too much though as it is a very dark place to go to.

Anyhoo. On a more positive note, they do say that the majority of women who have not conceived within the first year, get pregnant within the second. So, maybe we will get lucky and get some bfp's soon a la Biscuits!

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Evening all,

Just back from our weekend away with friends. Have broken all of the rules on the diet front. Drank pretty much nothing all weekend apart from tea/coffee/gin/wine :O Ate way too much - there was a huge selection of desserts every evening.... I think that I probably ov'd on Friday or Saturday, although I didn't do an OPK so not completely sure. We were allocated a room at the opposite side of a very large house from everyone else so the SWI every other day routine was not interrupted. In past years I would never have contemplated having sex in a house full of friends, but needs must

Actually spent a good chunk of the weekend feeling strangely relieved that I could escape all the children (there were loads) and find some peace and quiet. Am now thinking that it would be typical for me to conceive on the one weekend of the year that I enjoyed being childless :)

Have read everyone's posts (took ages!) but have forgotten everything that I had planned to say to individuals. Will try to stay on top of things this week.

Evening ladies,

Hope everyone's ok. Sounds like I'm upto about the same point as you skeleton cd 11.... Am trying to stay nice & calm this week so that ovulation might just co-incide with DP & I swi at about the right time before he has his test next week. I'm sure that in other months ovulation's been delayed by a few days due to work being horrible & me getting overly worked up about it . He has offered to put the appointment back, but I'm not sure how soon he'd get round to rearranging it so I figure he should keep it .

Your weekend sounds like fun Madness. I had a few more drinks than I probably should too, hey ho.

Ooh, by the way I think I might be the only one to know someone who took 9 months to conceive her first! He's a lovely 3 yr old now, & she was 33 at the time so it really can happen!

I'm about a week behind you ladies - CD5 here.

I'm god knows where! Think im cd58 or something now!? So frustrating as obviously there is NO chance of getting pregnant as i have no bloody cycle!!!!

I'm on call tonight so finish at 9am, might try the drs as if i call at 9am i should get an appointment for tomorrow (or today as its 1.10am!) Now i know there is a problem im keen to find out what it is in the hope it could be fixed!!

Morning,

madness love the sound of your weekend, hopefully some relaxed SWI will do the trick!

izzy sorry about your cycle. Hope you get to see the gp.

pixie hope you manage to stay nice and chilled out for a well timed ovulation day.

joycep are you feeling any better? X

I'm in the dreaded 2ww again. It came round quickly this time. Luckily I am away this weekend so that should provide a good bit of distraction. I'm feeling like utter crap but trying my best not to symptom spot as I think it's a virus.

Hope everyone has good days.

I actually came out of the gynae appointment today and didn't want to cry, massive achievement! It's all good news, I actually have 2 eggs ready to pop. Both are a good size, the lining needs to be a bit thicker so she thinks I will probably ovulate on Thurs (which will be CD21) and I have to go back on Fri for her to do another scan. Her advice is to SWI like mad until then . I think my body must be trying to give DH's swimmers maximum chance by releasing two eggs, surely just one of them can make it to one egg? I know, I know it's unlikely but I do feel happy that it looks like my body does ovulate. Hopefully the scan on Friday will show that I did and then the blood test for progesterone will be ok.

How are you feeling today joycep? I hope this AF isn't a bad one and it bogs off soon.

That sounds v encouraging, mrsd. I will have everything crossed for you (apart from when it is necessary to not have things crossed....)

Hi all

Sorry i haven't updated for a few days, i've been away for a long weekend camping.
I'll catch up on everyone else when I get home from work. How are you all?

I'm feeling v down today. Just seem to be waiting. I've got a week until my consultant appointment and I don't even feel like I can wait that long. I'm being so impatient but i'm feeling so broody that it's making me worse.
I went to the Trafford Centre yesterday and there's babies everywhere

In my head i've already convinced we need ICSI, god knows what i'll do if the consultant says differently.
What do others think the likely outcome would be? DHs sperm count is VERY low, morphology is low and motility is just ok.
If it is a case of ICSI, will we be puton the waiting list straight away or will they wait until DH has done another sample in 3 months time

so all in all just a bit crappy and low today. I feel like it's one long wait and it shouldnt have to be this difficult. I need a slap and to cheer up

Big hugs to you fatima. Waiting is the worst feeling, sometimes I feel like I am literally wishing my life away. If your DH has only had one SA so far then the consultant will probably want to order another one, I don't know if they'd wait for the results from this before putting you on a waiting list or not. You do need at least two results though because all sorts of things could have caused the first bad one, it might just be a one off and a second one come back fine. Has your DH started taking supplements? Also, I don't know if this applies to your DH but my Dr was telling me that she has seen big changes when people give up smoking but my DH has never smoked so we know this can't be the problem for him.

Hi everyone. I've just been to drs and my bloodwork showed that I have pcos, he has referred me for pelvic ultrasound to confirm. Not really sure what will happen after that.

Fatima I know what you mean about the waiting. It is the most frustrating, want to rip your own skin off type feeling - dramatic much! TTC seems to be all about waiting doesn't it. Waiting to ovulate, the 2ww, waiting for AF to show, waiting for appointments, the test results and of course the biggie, waiting for the elusive BFP!

I hope that you are holding up okay and feel alright. I suspect that what Mrsd says is right about needing another SA before anything concrete is decided about treatment.

I'm glad that you seem to be ovulating Mrsd. I would seriously have a chat about Metformin. That helps to regulate the absorption of insulin and will help you to continue to ovulate on your own. Taking it has helped to put my mind at rest a little about ovulation.

Izzy sorry that you are still waiting for AF. I can't imagine how frustrating that must be.

Madness Heres hoping that some nice relaxed SWI on your break away did the trick for you this month!

Good luck with the no symptom spotting Popcorn

Pixie It's depressing funny but 9 months to conceive doesn't sound like a long time any more!!!

Well AF arrived here this morning. While I obviously feel depressed that I have failed, yet again, it wasn't entirely unexpected - though given the strangeness of it's arrival of course there was a little bit of me, the devil on my shoulder, hoping that this would be the month. At least though I am finally out of the hell that is the wondering & hoping. I have also decided that my body is on a mission to confuse me and that the days of textbook PMT are over. I sometimes wonder whether because I want to be pregnant soooooo badly the mind is making the body ape many of the symptoms of pregnancy. Not quite a phantom pregnancy but along those lines.

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Izzy Sorry about your PCOS diagnosis. Are you okay? Trying to find a positive at least they have pinpointed what the problem is. There is quite a lot they can do to help you if you have PCOS and aren't ovulating regularly.
Thinking of you.

Thanks pout im surprisingly ok. I think because its nice to know there is actually something wrong, sounds strange I know! But I'm hopeful that they can medicate me to get me ovulating which is obviously the main problem at the minute :(

Well, just to fill you all on my appointment saga, it appears that the hospital has managed not to lose my referral for a thire time. Progress indeed!

However when the woman from my GP surgery followed up, they tried to offer an appointment in October. She kicked their behind on my behalf and they managed to come up with one in a few days. But... we are on holiday then. Anyway, she managed to try again and come up with something in late August, which is perfect. I am very grateful to her for kicking the hospital into shape on my behalf!

In other news, my copy of Dr Beer's book on reproductive immunology came through this morning. Maybe I will take it with me for some holiday reading....

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis, izzy but I kno what you mean about feeling better knowing that there is something identifiable wrong. Clomid is the standard treatment to get you ovulating. G'luck!

Pout - I'm so sorry about AF. I thought of you this morning on my way to work, creepy I know, but I was just hoping that maybe this was your month. Are you going to speak to your GP about a larascopy? Anyway, I hope you are feeling ok. It's good to get the hoping and wondering out of the way isn't it? Well actually last night I suddenly had a moment where I thought I was pregnant even though i'm in full flow of AF! My stomach was so bloated I looked 7 months gone. I then had a quick daydream about me suddenly going in to labour at work because I didn't realise I was pregnant. Madness I know. Thank god I've got that little thought out of my system.

Thanks Popcorn / Mrsd - I'm feeling much better today. Well you know where you feel ok but the issue is always there at the back of your mind, whereever you go and whenever you get a spare moment like in the ladies at work, I think about it. But I'm very lucky at the moment as for the first time in my life I seem to be busy at work which is really good for taking my mind off things.

Izzy - you sound like you are having a nightmare. I hope a doctor can help you to kick start your cycle again.

Mrsd - that's great news you are ovulating. And some twin eggs lined up. You just never know what can happen so get down to biz

Fatima - sorry you are feeling down. It's miserable isn't it. The waiting is agony and I hope things just feel like they speed up for you.

Euro - i'm glad you have finally got your appt you want. Let us know if there is anything of interst in that immune book.

Goodness, the knowledge all of us have gained on this thread is probably quite immense. We should write a book!

I think you're right joycep, between us we must know more than any professional! I have to bite my tongue sometimes when I hear other people talking about conception or else I would out myself as a conception obsessed loon.

I am so sorry AF arrived pout, I really did have some hope that you might be the next person on this thread to get a BFP. I hope you are taking care of yourself today. CD1 is the worst.

Great news that you have finally got an appointment euro, is it to see a consultant? Do you think they'll do all the tests again?

Hello to everyone else I've missed, I really do love this thread. It helps to keep me sane just knowing that others know what it feels like. Thank you everyone.

I am waiting for DH to get home so I can pounce on him , he's going to think it's Christmas, but I have to follow Drs orders and she prescribed lots of SWI until Friday. I can't believe I'm letting a middle aged woman dictate my bedroom activity. Aren't you supposed to feel more in the mood in the lead up to ovulation? Because I really would much rather go to bed with a big than do anything else. But hey ho, I've got two eggs expecting to party.

oops forgot to say izzy, I know it probably doesn't feel like it but it is good that they know what the problem is and hopefully they can start treating you to kickstart ovulation. Quite a few of us on this thread have been told we have pcos and I think it is very common so you're not alone. Big hugs to you.

Not sure, mrsd. I don't really know what to expect. I was told I was being referred to a gynae but been told today the appointment is with the subfertility clinic, so I am not really sure what to expect. A gynae appointment would be just for me but I have told the bloke he has to come along too in case they need to take a medical history from him or whatever.

Enjoy your evening.

Women are suppose to be in the mood around ovualtion mrsd - it's something to do with your body gearing up to accept the man but fairly typically I am never in the mood around ovulation now. It's been like that for the last year ever since A Gp friend told me you really should orgasm to get pregnant and orgasm after the man. I have always wondered whether this has been the problem but then you think that not every one must have the big O when they get pregnant!

I've heard that too. I take the pressure off by, er, just sorting myself out afterwards if it doesn't happen during joycep.

you mean we're supposed to enjoy it too? Blimey, this ttc malarky is even harder than I thought.

it might be a good idea to take your man with you euro, if only because two people can remember more stuff because I don't know why but when I am with a Dr my head goes to mush and I always forget what was said.

I haven't had anyone with me at the docs since I was a kid but as this is a fertility clinic I figure they will want to see both of us.

[BTW, when I first read your post, I thought you were gently suggesting that it might be helpful to have my husband participate in the swi....]

What? We're supposed to SWI with our DH? Maybe that's where I've been going wrong.

If your appointment is anything like mine the Dr will fling so much information at you that it's hard to take in. That might be because I was getting a mix of bad news (SA, cysts etc) and was being given info on treatment options, different clinics, costs etc. I am very used to meetings and I am not a person who is easily overwhelmed but for some reason I felt quite emotional and my mind was racing so I sort of stopped listening to every detail. I also have a habit of reading between the lines and taking too much from what someone says or the body language, whereas DH deals only in fact so it was good to get his take on what he thought she said. Also, I do think that infertility is about the couple, not just the woman so I think it's good to go as a couple. Otherwise there is a feeling that it's all my problem.