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TTC 6+ months plus, part 2

998 replies

skeletonbones · 27/06/2011 21:58

New thread as the old one was getting to 1000. So, 4 BFP's in the last thread, lets see if we can up the total considerably on this one :)

OP posts:
eurochick · 20/07/2011 15:09

I'm off coffee on account of ttc and definitely not touching the senna.

I think movement might be imminent. I may be some time

Peaceport · 20/07/2011 15:10

Well today I'm in bed feeling both I'll and sorry for myself, having a right old pity party. And I don't even feel like wine!

But, in an hour I'm going to get up and go for a walk round the block to avoid bedsores :) and I'm going to listen to some of my stin Hansen podcasts that are very uplifting. And then I'm going to think about this cycles activities which will include:

A wedding. I can drink champagne. A bit anyway. Ovulation time falls right while we are in the wedding hotel with roll top baths.

I'm finally going to start project clear the box room. Was going to leave it empty and in neutral shades for nursery...but I'm instead going to turn it into my own yoga room. How deliciously selfish! We discovered the other day that we actually have a loft ( we told when we bought it that it didn't) and it's quite big. So dh is busy boarding it at the mo, so that's going to house the box room junk and dh can do his stinky home brewing up there, so a space each. It feels good to have ditched the nursery for now.

I'm going to finish my wretched masters.

I'm going to throw myself into something else creative, as opposed to investing all energies into baby creating. Will get some inspiration from etsy.

I'm going to stop avoiding all of my new baby owning friends, bite the bullet and go visit.

I am officially banning myself from googling anything two week waity/symptoms/infertility/spotting etc etc AT ALL. This is going to be toughest. But I know it all anyway really, so how hard can it be? No peeking anywhere (except here!) at all, whole cycle. I'm going to note temps on a post it and put them in at 12dpo. What a challenge.

That should do it. Anyone else fancy joining me on a no google torturing this cycle? We could keep each other in check?

Biscuitsandtea · 20/07/2011 15:17

Peace I'll join you in a google free month (google for ttc anyway - I presume I am still allowed to google shoes and lovely other things for internet shopping?)

Once AF rocks up I'll be doing a cycle on Clomid so no idea what that'll do to all my temps etc anyway. DH and I are going to try SWI every 2-3 days - I'm thinking every 2-3 days all month and trying every other day from sort of CD 11-19 or something as it is all too stressful trying to work out if i've ov'd whether I am ever going to ov etc. If we just ignore all the cycle stuff and stick with the swi then hopefully that will get us there? Who knows? I might even get him to synchronise my temperature monitor (you have to synch it every few days) so that I don't have to look at the chart and see when i've ov'd.

Glad you have a plan anyway - I need something else to focus on I think something like that to pass the time and give me something else to think about. I have been doing more baking but then all that means is that when i do inevitably get a bit down about things there is a big stock of baked things to eat and get fat with :(

It's like being an addict isn't it - we need to go cold turkey :) xx

Peaceport · 20/07/2011 15:37

Good. I'm glad I have a cold turkey buddy! We are trying the sperm meets egg plan this month so I'm still going to opk. It's that last week before af when I become totally insane. I swear I'm thinking about making a baby 95% of the time right now. I teach and it's the holidays, which isn't helping really.

Peaceport · 20/07/2011 15:39

Oh and I bake and the take it in to work/ give it to friends etc. I've been on two websites lately with cool cakes/cookies - smitten kitchen and 101 cookbooks. Let's get busy! Right, I'm off for my walk and to finally post the love film I've had for about 4 months.

poutintrout · 20/07/2011 15:50

Given up coffee - I salute your commitment to this TTC lark Euro! I'm glad that things are er, progressing!

I love baking Biscuits mainly because I love cake (think Worzel Gummidge on ProPlus "cup of tea and a slice of cake") but our oven is buggered and has only two temperatures, volcanic hot or tepid. Not great for cake making unless you like them with a burnt bottom or sloppy middle!

Peace I have a pity party when AF comes too and sometimes head off to bed because I just am too fed up to function. I'm glad though that you have some diversionary plans lined up. I would like to join you in your cold turkey but just know that I will cave by about 8dpo and Google will be running white hot. Smile

poutintrout · 20/07/2011 15:54

x-post Peace. I am very impressed with your baking prowess. Can you set up some kind of baking birthday cakes sideline especially over the Summer to keep your mind off TTC?

mrsden · 20/07/2011 16:16

peace so sorry you are having such a rough time. How awful for your body to mess you about like that. I feel my worst from about 12dpo to CD3. But then I do pick up a bit. I don't blame you having a pity party. Some days I just want to hide away in bed. I have never suffered from depression before but I am beginning to understand what it must feel like and how easily it is for infertility to lead to depression. I hope you feel a bit better soon and your plans sound good.

My cousin phoned today to see if she could come and stay for a couple of weeks in October. I said yes but now I've been worrying about what if we are going through fertility treatment then. I hate not knowing what is going to be happening. It feels so out of my control. She asked if we had any news, I know she was probably expecting me to say "well actually I'm pregnant". I hate that question now.

euro try having a sugary drink like Cola.

Peaceport · 20/07/2011 16:51

Thanks mrsden and pout. I think that being ill too at my low time of the month has not been a good combo. This is the first time I've been poorly whilst ttc. I am going to try and sideline my doolally head with other things for the rest of summer.

I have never been depressed either. But I had a glimpse this month of what that might feel like. Think I'm going to try and do some relaxation things too, I got butterflies in my tummy this month waiting for af - now that is going too far!

Fatimalovesbread · 20/07/2011 18:14

Evening all! How is everyone?

I'm feeling a bit shitty today. I'm on CD16 so i'll be SWI again later tonight.

I REALLY want to get pg this month, not that I don't every month but I really want it to happen this month. But then I feel a bit down because it probably wont happen again and i'll be gearing myself up for nothing.
I want to go shopping for a pram and a cot and baby clothes. I want to pick a baby name.
But it's been 15 months with not so much of a sniff of a BFP Sad

Sorry for the rant, just needed somewhere to offload.

Smile
Biscuitsandtea · 20/07/2011 18:39

Fatima you are not alone. There must be something in the weather I swear because just about everyone seems to be really hacked off with it all today!

I know how you feel a bit I think - I am on CD29 waiting for AF to arrive (she has sent on an advance party of period pain to alert me to her arrival and allow me time to stock up on the ice cream and chocolate cake she likes so much). Just fed up of getting my hopes up only to have them dashed all the time. Would be so nice to be able to get my hopes up and have them justified for once!

Still, maybe this will be your month Fatima - you are still in the swi window so fingers crossed that it will all go to plan for you.

Have you been for any tests or anything at the GP? Just curious.....

Peaceport I know what you mean about the depression thing. I have never been depressed at all but can see how this would lead to it. I have been so tired this month (which of course I was hoping was a pg symptom) but I'm worried that I am just tired of all the ttc stuff and getting a bit too down about it all the time.

We'll all get there eventually I hope xxx

NervousNelly · 20/07/2011 18:42

Afternoon ladies. You?ve been chatty again! I am really busy at work just now so just having a quick catch up. I started this at lunchtime but never got round to finishing. So this will be only commenting on posts up to lunch time, and I?ll reply to everyone else whenever I finally get out of the office Angry.

pout you do make me laugh. Grin at ginormous bright pink nipples. Though the underlying point wasn?t so funny, of course. Bloody 2ww and its hysterical jokes. Oooh, I?ve never had cramping on 5DPO before, I must be pregnant. That was me last month. But guess what, I wasn?t.

Also Grin at skeleton?s pram filled with snakes. Can you imagine the old dears in Marks and Spencer! There would be heart attacks all round. You could maybe make the snakes a sort of coat that had fake booties hanging off of them? Hope your holiday was to somewhere suitable hot and Envy making.

(As an aside, does anyone else get irrationally annoyed when they hear the question ?oh, going anywhere nice?? when you say you are off on holiday. It?s such a bloody daft thing to say. One of these days I?m going to reply with ?No. I thought I?d punish myself for a year?s worth of hard work by going to spend a week in a prison in Skegness? . Of course I?m going somewhere nice! It?s a holiday, that?s what you do. Even if it?s just a short break somewhere local, presumably you chose it largely based on the fact you think it?d be nice Hmm. ). Rant over!

madness hope you cope with your Mum?s visit!

Izzy - any more news, has AF showed up? I think it?s very weird about the 18 month thing, what does your PCT say? Is that the right terminology, I?m in Scotland and it?s different I think?

I tend to stay away from the other boards on MN. Once in a while I read the Pregnancy one, but I have no idea what they are talking about anyway, and I find it a bit heart-breaking to be honest. I cope with not being PG by generally ignoring all things pregnancy related. Excluding of course wandering down the baby aisle in Sainsburys.

Miggly hope you have a nice holiday. Off anywhere nice? Wink.

Try not to panic about your SIL, purple. Just keep reminding yourself that there are not a limited amount of pregnancies to go around, and even if she gets there first, it doesn?t mean you can?t have a BFP as well. I agree with Pout about the test results though, I?m sure it?s just that they don?t allow the reception staff to interpret them, I?m sure they have to give him the results, but he probably needs to make an appointment.

popcorn when I went to the GP he was young-ish and had a bit of an idea, but actually I found it a bit more helpful that he wasn?t a total guru, because I could steer him in the direction I wanted him to go! He looked up the local guidelines and got started, with a nudge or two from me. Admittedly it?s not ideal, but then GP?s are generalists, and despite Dr Google probably driving them mad, it?s far better to go in feeling informed, knowing what questions to ask etc, and then just being referred to a specialist who deals with it day in day out. And as for the count, well 2% of a very high number may well be better than 4% of a low count. It?s still 1.2m sperm being normal (yes I actually got my calculator out to check!) which sounds like a lot to me, and it only takes one Wink.

biscuits so sorry you are feeling low. I agree with the distraction technique, lots of activities with your DS sounds like a good plan. I hope the dreaded AF doesn?t turn up for you. I don?t temp so can?t comment on that; and I don?t want to fuel the craziness. I?ll just keep my fingers crossed for you :)

4DPO here. It?s not too soon for symptom spotting, surely?

Right, will catch up later when I've had Wine.

Biscuitsandtea · 20/07/2011 18:52

Enjoy your Wine Nelly. Have been contemplating a cheeky glass myself this evening. I am 10dpo today I think and AF due any day now. I wish if she was going to turn up she'd hurry up and do so so I can enjoy a massive and guilt free drink. Might settle for a little drink just to tempt fate instead......

Karbea · 20/07/2011 19:10

I'm cd15 today, so still a long way to go until any signs or anything. I had acupuncture today, don't know if it's working yet... Hoping it increases the lengths of my cycles, I need to increase a couple of days to 26/8 if anything exciting is going to happen!!!

How are we all today?

Fatimalovesbread · 20/07/2011 20:23

Biscuits Yes i've had a blood test which came back fine and DH has been for a SA that we're waiting for the results for. Got an appt with Gynae consultant in August.

Looks like this month is out of the window. Cycles have been 28-30 days and so i've been ovulating around CD14-16. Today's CD16 so wanted to SWI again but DH doesn't want to Angry

skeletonbones · 20/07/2011 22:39

shockingly, I googled 'snakes dressed as babies' and its a google wack!, people seem to waste their time dressing up already adorably cute animals, little tiny pug puppies and the the like, without sparing a thought for the more aestheticly challenging but still pram worthy pet animals. Dh suggested that I could knit a long wooley condom type outfit for each snake too, maybe with their names embroidered on, but I like the jacket with booties idea too nelly, I guess it would sort of be like those mittens with string through them dangling off the bottom Grin
I have been pricing up the shag dictator AKA clear blue fertility monitor on amazon tonight, it seems to have rave reviews. Does anyone have one? is it worth the money?, I was also quite dismayed at the price(and the apparent need for) sperm friendly lubricants. I have been using ordinary purchased in anne summers type stuff without realsing that they are bad for sperm?!?

OP posts:
izzybizzybuzzybees · 20/07/2011 22:42

Hi nelly kind of you to ask after me. Still no AD which is massively frustrating as just want to get started on next cycle!!

I'm on Scotland also, Im not sure why 18 months, maybe cos I already have a dd??

Hope you enjoyed your wine :)

izzybizzybuzzybees · 20/07/2011 22:42

No AF not AD stupid phone!

izzybizzybuzzybees · 20/07/2011 22:46

Hi skeleton, we have a clearblue monitor.and it helped us conceive dd ad my ov day varied between day 17 and day 27! Not the case for most people tho! I liked the advance warning of high fertility and the extra days u could conceive on.

As for lube, we don't use any but yes you do need sperm friendly as others kill sperm, not good when ttc!

NervousNelly · 20/07/2011 22:46

Karbea - is it the actual cycle length you are hoping to increase, or just the LP? I'm a bit worried now. My cycles average 26 days; my last one was 29; but 25 and 24 the months before. Should I be worried? I think my LP is ok though Confused.

Peace you sound like you are having a rough time, and the distraction plan sounds good! Send cakes this way if you have a surplus :)

I felt exactly the same as you last month fatima. At the moment I don't feel too panicked this month, but it's early days and I could still go mad in the next 2 weeks.

As it happens, OH had finished the lovely bottle of wine by the time I got home (it's been open a couple of nights, he didn't drink it all himself tonight!). So I got a slurp out of his, and that's it. I haven't been very good at cutting out wine in the 2ww up to now; so maybe that should be this month's resolution. But if that doesn't work, then I'm back on the wine. Hmm

So 4DPO and I'm having the weird ovulation-type pains again, I had them last month at about the same time. Of course I was convinced they were implantation, but they bloody weren't. So what other explanation is there? I mean I may be overthinking this - but your body "knows" you've released an egg. So it's basically expecting fertilisation and implantation to happen (it's still hopeful, unlike me). And then when nothing has happened in about another 8-10 days from now, it realises it's time to shed the lining and start again. So why do I have pains on 4DPO if they aren't implantation Confused.

Karbea · 20/07/2011 22:52

nervous I'm no expert but the acupuncturist said that to carry a pregnancy I'd need cycles to be 26+ days, so of the last 8 cycles only about half have been viable, and of the last 5 I think only 2... So when you think about it like that dh and I haven't really been trying that long. So if I can see cycles of 28days then we might get upduffed.

NervousNelly · 20/07/2011 22:53

cross-posts. skeleton I didn't think there were any google-whacks left! Impressed. Though it is, admittedly, a little alarming that you were actually googling it in the first place Wink. But for the record, mittens with strings is exactly the kind of thing I was picturing. Oh dear.

Re lube, we don't use any (we used to, but I did glean from MN that it wasn't great for sperm so have hidden it incase OH decides we need it). But I believe something like Pre-seed is ok, and can in fact help as it gives the sperm additional liquid to swim in

Izzy annoying that AF still hasn't showed. Have you completely ruled out a BFP this month, or are you trying to ignore the possibility....

NervousNelly · 20/07/2011 22:58

cross post again! I hadn't heard that Karbea, only that you needed a Luteal phase length of ideally 11+ days to give enough time for implantation? Oh goody, another thing to worry about! Though I've just checked my phone app, and out of 13 cycles, 8 have been 26 days or more; though I did have a rather random 22 day cycle in February.

izzybizzybuzzybees · 20/07/2011 23:23

Yep have ruled out a BFP, I'm.about 23 dpo now so it should have showed positive if I was pregnant so I think I'm just messed up!!

Purplelooby · 20/07/2011 23:51

Grin snakes in mittens and booties. This is why I love this board.

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