TTC/ pregnancy on Prednisolone or similar

[freelancegirl]

I am not sure there are enough people here to start a thread but have been chatting on one on the pregnancy boards and was wondering if I could find any fellow ttc'ers on Prednisolone or similar?

I have just received a diagnosis of very high NK cells. It was a bit of a shock actually as it turns out I have some of the highest levels - 3.79 when anything over 1.8 is considered 'very high'.

Am trawling through Dr Beer's book and Dr Google and trying to found out more. I have been recommended 25mg prednisoline steroids for two weeks starting with ovulation, increasing to 40mg if/when BFP and then Intralipids Cyclogest too. I still have 13 days until I pop my first Pred.

There now just seem like so many hurdles - actually getting pregnant being the first one. I was prepared for high NK cells as I have high thyroid antibodies but it was shocking to be in the top 5% of people treated at the clinic. I am not sure if that gives me much less of a chance of being successful.

It would be great to hear from anyone else who is undergoing treatment and of course also if you've had successful treatment.

I guess, as his treatment is specifically for those suffering repeat miscarriage he wants to get to the root of the cause for each miscarriage. I suppose I can understand his frustration. But, it really didn't help that he was out of the country at the time! I wonder what his strategy is for those in freelance's situation who are seeing him under the NHS, considering how difficult it is to get any kind of follow up appointment. I suppose I may have to cross that bridge if I come to it.

I found them fascinating too Iggi when in the 2ww. Did you ever happen upon this site here?

www.twoweekwait.com/bfpsymptoms/dpo/

I have no idea what he will do on the NHS Kittens. It was always my intention to transfer to the NHS once my referral went through, which it did, but it doesn't seem to be something he wants me to do now! And I guess I haven't pursued it. It's not like me to be able to afford these things but DH and I both have a rush of work on at the moment and it seems we can actually pay for it.

It is really interesting to read the symptome spotting! Yesterday at 9dpo - I had such bad AF cramps i thought she was coming early. But she didn't - so I tested. At 9dpo. With an afternoon wee. Got BFN and was depressed for the rest of the evening.

I will duly wait here for my telling off........

And I also can relate to the 'wanting kids / not wanting kids thing'. Until I met Dp I wasn't bothered, and we said I fit happens it happens - if it doesn't we will get a dog. But now that I have MC x 3 it's become like a challenging goal. I said to my friend the other day - sometimes I wish we hadn't even started trying as I wouldn't know what it would be like to have conceived and lost. Or sometimes I wish I had actually never conceived at all so I wouldn't feel the big empty gap that comes with MC.

Onwards .........

Am I still in with a chance this month even though I got a bfn yesterday??

Of course you're in with a chance battery. Don't forget, freelance and digi both got their BFPs around day 16 (am I right?).

battery you are still in with a chance. Bean implants between 7-10dpo, then hormone takes a couple of days to show up in your pee. Hence why I tested at 12dpo this cycle. Well I thought it was 12dpo, but it was actually 13dpo. And that was with fmu (first morning urine) and even then it was so very very faint. I imagine if I'd tested at 9dpo it would definitely have been a bfn. I also had cramps about 10/11dpo, so I'm still rooting for you!

free I can't remember if I mentioned I was going to St Marys to Mr S. I've definitely mentioned him to them though. It's definitely worth having the teg done though as LAF from the recurrent buns thread had all her tests come up clear except the TEG in pregnancy, so it seems some womens blood has a tendency to clot too much only when pregnant. However, treatment for that is aspirin which we're already on.

I am so knackered. I've just baked a cake for my dad's birthday tomorrow. After hours of being stuck in traffic trying to cross the river at the same time as the Thames festival decided to shut down several bridges. Have a school tour tomorrow morning for the local primary we're applying for. V busy week at work plus this ridiculously early appt with Mr S on Weds which involves getting ds up at 6am and all of us out the door by 6:30. I know I wanted to keep busy to help pass the time but this is ridiculous.

Oh and I officially have moonface and a very fat belly, so i don't know how I'm going to keep this pg a secret from my dad and his evil ex-wife tomorrow. She already asked my sis if I was pg and my dad has been staring at my belly whenever he visits trying to figure out if I'm fat enough for him to ask. I don't want to tell them yet, I'm not ready.

Battery i agree with others, there is still time for you to get a BFP. I got a BFN on day 10 and it was only on day 14 that I got my BFP. Everything crossed for you.

Digi hopefully with it been such a horrible day you might be able to hide under baggy top and cardigan or jumper! Im meeting up with some of my friends today and you can really tell I have put weight on so will just say too much eating and drinking on holiday!

It's kind of expected after a holiday, isn't it! Have woken up with pain under my ribcage which I'm sure I had before last mc - that would be my style, implantation pains one day, falling-away pains the next! Really need to stop obsessing and think about my job interview - bet the other candidates aren't thinking like this! It takes such a lot of EFFORT to deal with rmc and ttc. Where are our medals?

battery No telling off from me, but personally I've never got even a hint of a BFP until at least 12dpo so you're still well in with a chance (according to my body calendar, that is! :) ).

lol georgie love the idea of just telling people you've eaten too much, digi it's worth a go if you don't want your dad & evil ex ... just say you're eating too much and "really ought to do something about it"

Argh, I meant to type "if you don't want your dad and evil ex to know" ... something's eating my words!

Iggi I have a 2nd interview next Monday too! i should be preparing a presentation right now, but just cant get into it! I resigned from my job last Nov to give it one last chance to get pregnant. its kind of my fall back, plan B just in case things dont go well at the scan on Thursday. As if their is no baby then i definately want to go back to work but if the scan is ok i will still do interview but dont think i would take job (Thats if i get it!) What'ds your interview for? xx

iggi, maybe you just have Prednisolone related indigestion causing the pain under your rib cage. That happens to me a lot.

digi if your dad and evil wife know you're on steroids maybe you could just blame it on that?

Good luck with the interviews iggi & georgie.

Thanks Kittens

Morning,
Good luck iggi and georgie with job interviews this week, fingers crossed they go well.

Also Digi and Georgie with scans/appts this week.

Have still got my head in the sand about my BFP-should be 6wks at the end of this week. No scans/appts booked yet though. Not v hopeful though as with successful pregnancies I usually start to feel v sick by around 6 wks-no real symptons yet.

Freelance, was really surprised about the "telling off" from Mr S. Would have done exactly the same as you-dont see what difference a specialist scan would make to the outcome when the embryo has failed to develop. My miscarriage investigations with him were covered by BUPA but once you are pregnant nothing is covered so follow up scans & appts are ££££'s.

Everything crossed for those of you testing this week.

Strangely my youngest has just been prescribed the dreaded Prednisolne for a couple of days to clear up a chest infection.

Libby try not to worry about lack of symptons. Apart from slight change in boobs i have none. The others have also said they have no real symptoms as the pred masks them. x

Iggi I've had pains under my rib cage from 8 weeks and still get it now at 14 so fingers crossed hunni xxx

Taken my last prednisolone today ladies so now I'm officially off them and terrified just hope baby continues to grow without them. Heard it's heartbeat this morning at the MW...... Mental !!!

Good luck to all with interviews and scans this week x

stogan - Lovely news on the HB .... I can't wait for that momnet. It will be huge (praying I get there too one day)
Libby The others have mentioned no symptoms too - try not to worry - for today you are pregnant - go with it! :) (easy to say I know)

Quick post as I am at work. I feel as sick as a dog. Temps still up, but we shall see. I don't know if the nausea is cos of the pred. I also feel red hot. I don't want to test until I ma late now - as I make myself miserable, but I can't wait that long as I should stop taking the pred on Wednesday as that will be 14 dyas......what to do?????????????

Digi that scan is very early! - I am coming to the big old smoke on wednesday for work , but not that early!!!

Battery, if I could test late I would, better not to know too soon - but meant to take progesterone from bfp so need to know early. It is hard just to wait, but much harder to know, imo!
It's good to know weirdy rib pains aren't just me!

Hey battery are u not taking the anti sickness pills too? I thought they were fab. U will hear that little heart beating one day soon honey, everything crossed for you x

Yeah Iggi the rib pains are very uncomfortable I find lying on my back and rubbing exactly where it is helps me (well makes me burp and then pain subsides) x

Hello ladies - I have come accross this - its a fertility roadshow in London in November. There are many seminars, one of which is about immunology and how controversial it is. Someone from the Zita West clinic is speaking. I am thinking of going - there is also a session on recurrent miscarriage. Just thought it might be useful to some xx

www.fertilityshow.co.uk/where-and-when.html

Morning ladies, hope everyone's doing well this sunny-but-blowy day? (well it is here, anyway!)

So we had our first appointment with Mr Shehata yesterday, and what a nice person he is (as is of course Louise, his midwife). After listening to my history he said he wasn't going to test my OH for anything, his opinion is that if OH's sperm is good enough to start a pregnancy it's good enough to carry it on, and that my MCs are down to something else. He said he wasn't going to test the both of us for chromosomal issues, as apparently his only advice if something was found would be to just try again, as statistically not all pregnancies would be affected. So OH got off lightly!

He did an internal scan and proclaimed himself 'very pleased' with what he saw - endometrial lining is good, and apparently my ovaries don't appear that of a 43 year old, lots of follicles there. I don't think my mother lied to me about my birthdate, so yay my body!

Anyway, had the usual 9 vials of blood taken (least amount of pain I've ever had when giving blood, usually it hurts like the very devil), and now wait two weeks to go back for my results appointment. Did I mention I'm rubbish at waiting? :)

Hi Ari Im so pleased the apt went well for you all. Im 42 so know how much of a relief it is to hear good news like that! Hopefully the time will pass quickly. Has he started you off on any medication? Apsrin, vit D or anything?

I go to see him on Thursday night and I am so nervous for my scan, cant think straight and you can here the stress in my voice when I talk so as i result I am lying low with my friends this week.

x

Hey georgie .. yes, the usual, aspirin and extra vit D, I'm already taking enough of everything else (and lots besides!).

Fingers crossed for your appointment on Thursday, I really hope everything goes well for you. I can't even imagine how nervous I will be if I ever get to that point again, it's good that you have your friends around you to try to take your mind off things. Do let us know how you get on!

Glad appt went well Ari

georgie deep breaths. It'll be alright. You're doing everything you can to make this work.

My scan is 8am tomorrow - having to bring DS along so it really really needs to be ok [wibble]

It's terrible how much worry we have! I'm normally a strong person and never really get nervous but this is silly, I start to shake thinking about it!

I'm sure all will go well tomorrow Digi, it will be 1 more week closer to week 13 sign off. Xx