CLOMID GANG - the new thread

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This should be clomid and IUI (for Katierocket) thread. Hoping this one will be luckier than the last - can't be any worse, don't think we had a single BFP did we?

Lots and lots and lots of luck to us all.

Hi all ... toay is CD10 and I've got what can only be described as period type pains, maybe this is an ovulation sign? No dip on the chart and last night got a circle and not a smiley face! Maybe tonight?

Hi Dizzy,
I've chatted with you before, do you remember? I had a high FSH level and had to get two more blood tests done to check what egg reserves I had (how many eggs are left in the basket) was how my Consultant put it. I went back on Wednesday and my levels have come down significantly under 12, I think the most recent showed a level of 3.5 (I was trying to peer at the result in my file over the Consultants shoulder). Anyway he has now decided to start me on clomid. Had the FSH been greater than 12 again, there was no way he would have given me clomid because he clearly said it wouldn't work. I am wondering if the high FSH is the reason for you not responding to the clomid?

Good news and bad news for me....

The bad news first....it doesn't look like it's going to be my month yet again. I was so upset this morning when I discovered I was spotting (a sure sign that AF is around the corner ) Matt is really upset too...he shed a few tears for the first time ever which made me feel like such a failure, bless him

Which leads on to the good news....2 bits really, the first being we've accepted an offer on Matt's house today which is a big surprise as it only went up last week The offer was a very good one too, only £1K under the asking price. So...we've been a bit rash and booked ourselves a 5 star holiday in Sharm el Sheikh (we loved it that much when we went in January!) in October. The kids are going to Florida with their dad the same 2 weeks so it will be just me and Matt for a 2nd honeymoon!!

I need something else to focus on...TTCing has taken up the best part of 2 years now, and I'm not sure I can keep on going month after month, the disappointment is too much to bear sometimes.

Don't get me wrong, we'll still be TTCing, but I'm going to try REALLY hard not to get so preoccupied with it.

As for continuing with fertility treatment/adoption....I'm not going to even think about it for a while yet....I need to devote more time to 'us' if you know what I mean. The preparation course for adoption isn't until June, hopfully by then I'll have my head in order

Sorry this turned out so long

Loubie xx
CD26

Sorry I've not been around for a bit, we've recently got a new PC and it took me ages finding my log in details, so I've been able to read but not reply!

Sorry to hear a few of us are having a bad time of it, hopefully we'll all be new mums (again for some of us) some time in 2007.

Loubie xx

Hi I was wondering if I could join the thread? I feel like I need some support!

I've been on Clomid for 3 months - this is month 4 and I am due to be ovulating around now (CD13 at the moment). My problem is I really can't tell whether I am ovulating or not. I have done OPK tests every month since being on clomid but they are always negative. My blood tests on CD21 have shown so far that I only ov-d in month 2 and months 1 and 3 did not work.

After month 3 the consultant upped my dose to 100mg so this is my 1st month on 100mg and WOW the side effcets are horrible - I have felt so down this week for no good reason. It's terrible. Anyway, I am going to keep my fingers crossed for this month - I can't take many more months like this!

Has anyone out there been successful with an increased dose of clomid? I'm on it because of PCOS - no periods for a full year after coming off the pill - diagnosis was a total shock!

Any tips on how I know I am ov-ing and when to BD when I do know?

Help?!

hi flustered, yes I do remember you.

That information is very helpful. The consultant suggested that my elevated fsh could be the reason why but did not sound sure. I have been looking on net for any info and there is not a lot regarding clomid and high fsh.

If that is the reason why I have not ovulated this month then I am seriously thinking about putting a complaint in. The consultant who prescribed should have told me the risk with my elevated fsh so I had the option of declining the clomid, which beleive me I would have done.

glad to hear your fsh levels are normal again. Mine have gone from 14 last April to 12.2 in Feb 2006 so its coming down but very slowly...I don't know whats affecting it so cannot speed up the process

ps flustered. I am still confused. you said your consultant said clomid wouldn't work with high fsh...did he expand on that and explain how the clomid would react with high fsh. Causing me to not ovulate seems like more than just the clomid not working. If clomid is supposed to increase fsh and lh even further why would it do the reverse to me. These are the questions I am going to ask next week when I see consultant

ps flustered. I am still confused. you said your consultant said clomid wouldn't work with high fsh...did he expand on that and explain how the clomid would react with high fsh. Causing me to not ovulate seems like more than just the clomid not working. If clomid is supposed to increase fsh and lh even further why would it do the reverse to me. These are the questions I am going to ask next week when I see consultant

Hi Dizzy,
I had been referred by my GP to try clomid, but because the tests done at the hospital showed elevated FSH on day 3-6, the Consultant told me to have two more blood tests as "they" like the FSH to be below 10 before starting clomid. He said he couldn't prescribe Clomid, if the FSH remained high, as it wouldn't be of any use. He didn't go into detail but I remember him talking about eggs in the basket so I think I assumed he meant that if the reason I wasn't getting pregnant was because my egg reserve was low, clomid would not improve that. I really don't know, I wish I did. When I go for my appointments I usually wait around for an hour before I am called in and then he usually faffs about trying to find results of tests, and rushes me through. My fertility has been investigated for the last 10 years so I am used to it. I sometimes think that I should just be grateful for my DD and leave it at that, but then a friend will be pregnant or I'll be out with friends who have their 3 year olds and a baby and I will think differently. See what they have to say when you go for your appointment. I wish you luck and know exactly how you feel, it is so hard. One thing I have learnt is that getting angry and stressed plays a part, so try to remain calm when you go for your appointment (if you can)and write down what you want to ask beforehand, as I always forget when I get in there. When I saw my Dr to get referred I just handed him a piece of paper with it all written on.

Hi again Dizzy,

I was really suprised my FSH had come down as I was not expecting it to have. I asked the Consultant if he knew the reason for fluctuating FSH on day 3-6 and how do I know that it won't rise again. He shrugged and didn't really answer the question.

Hi flustered. I did some googling on my results for day 3 and 4 as I wrote all the results down when I was with the Dr and my fsh was 7.2 and I read that under 10 shows that with these levels I (or anybody) will respond well to fertility drugs such as Clomid which I did. I think that is what your consultant meant. I have a low egg reserve (I am 41.5yrs) and only two follicles showed on the day 3 scan and they like to see 4-5 although I was told that it doesn't mean that I can't get preg with 2.

Loubie, I am sorry to read that you think that your AF is on its way. I have been ttc for 2 years now and it cannot but preoccupy you. Fingers crossed its not AF.

Dizzy, you need to get some proper answers to your questions. When can you speak to a dr?

I am now on day 7 of early miscarriage and have accepted it. I have however been feeling moody, hot, have a headache when I wake up EVERY morning, feel emotional on and off and feel pesimistic. I thought maybe it was because of the miscarriage and that it had finally hit me but then I realised all the above is side effects of bl**dy clomid!!! I am taking a month off of clomid before starting again. I have put on half a stone which feels awful and I am sitting here feeling HOT! If the clomid has a lasting effect so far, does that mean that it can improve my follicles this month even though I am not taking it? Does anyone know?? I was told when I left with my next supply of clomid NOT to take it this month but that I could still ttc and get preg naturally this month(not banking on it). Shall still try but won't have the follicle tracking but will be looking out for cm.

Babydust to you all.............!!!

i think i have read somewhere that clomid can still be in your system a little bit the month you stop taking it but because clomid can dry out cervical fluid (which the hospital didn't tell me), the fluid can increase the month after and many people concieve the month after the clomid has been discontinued.

am on cd 4 today decided to temp etc this month i am 'taking charge of my fertility' to see if it makes a difference or at least highlights any potential problems.
I am thinking about stopping the clomid after this month as i go on holiday anyway but the clinic suggested that we may need to try iui soon but you need a 1 month break from the clomid before starting this. Will ask if this is allowed as i will still have 1 month of the clomid left

good luck to all this month

Not only is AF 99% here (it's only a matter of whether CD1 will be today or tomorrow) but I also got my blood test result back today and it's doubtful whether or not I even ovulated - my result was 29. In 6 months of being on Clomid I've had it tested 3 times, the results have been 20, 42 and 29. Not very encouraging is it? What is it with my stupid body???

Sorry for being so down, but sometimes I wonder whether its worth it. I don't mind putting up with the clomid side effects if I'm in with a chance of being PG, but if it's not working then it makes them very bitter pills to swallow indeed.

Loubie xx
CD29/1

Sorry I was so down earlier, it wasn't so much because AF is almost upon more, more so because I don't know if the Clomid is working.

Anyway, I may have a solution...call this fate if you like, but to cut a long story short I needed to get a prescription today for my last month's worth of Clomid tablets. I normally take 100mg a day, days 2-6 of my cycle, which is 10 tablets in total. Now this is the fate bit...my doctors made an error with my prescription and they've actually prescribed me 15 tablets, not 10. I'm VERY tempted to take 150mg a day for this last month, would you? The minimum dosage for Clomid is 50mg per day and the maximum is 200mg, so I'm not overdosing by any stretch of the imagination.

I've only got this one last chance on Clomid left....it seems a pity to waste the opportunity, maybe like I said before, it's fate??

Loubie xx
CD29 (now officially a day late, but spotting on the increase so practically nil chance of a BFP)

hi all can i join, ive been ttc for 14 months now, on a few threads on here! am 40 and been to gyny today, and they gave me clomid 50 mg to take on day 2 to day 6, but af not due until about 1st may

I've been vaguely following this thread as I've taken clomid before and now have been prescribed it for next month.

Trace - I promise I am not folowing you around like a mad stalker!!

I wasn't going to post 'til next month but wanted to agree with Relax about clomid staying in your system for a while. I wasn't sure if this was medically true but I took it a couple of years ago for 3 months and fell pg the month after we stopped. I have lpd and think that the clomid regulated the second half of my cycle. Too weird to be just a coincedence I'm sure - here's hoping it'll do the trick this time too. :)
I've been trying for ages to be re-prescribed it.

Loubie, I can understand you being down but I think it might not be a good idea to take a higher dose unless it has been specifically prescribed to you. All drugs are so powerful and while I think that clomid is a wonderdrug, I would be scared of taking matters into my own hands and going further with the dosage. It really is up to you but I would be scared. When I held the 2 tablets in my hand last month on day 3 I looked at them with awe and wondered what they were about to bring. I didn't experience any side effects then but I am now so it is unpredictable. I also had a preg in my uterus and something outside the uterus near the tube and this was due to 100mg of clomid which did scare me. Imagine if you do take the 150mg and then god forbid you have a problem? Please think carefully about this.

Relax and Coggy thanks for that info. Coggy, it is good to read that you did get preg after 3mths on clomid. I hope it works for you this time.

Good luck Trace2 with clomid, have you taken clomid before? How many children do you already have?

I agree with skbfriday...it's best not to muck around with things is you don't know what they may do.
I tried agnus castus this past month and regreted it - I didn't ov for the first time in months (although this could just be coincidence) but I also worried for the rest of the month in case I was pregnant and it may have affected a baby or my cycles etc. Don't think I'll take that again in a hurry!
Just be careful eh?

Coggy I have just read about your heartbreaking loss on another thread and I am very sorry. Can't really say anything to make you feel better, I can't imagine your pain. Hope you are preg soon.

hi all

coggy lol, dont worry about it we are all here for the same reason.

ShouldKnowByFriday so sorry with what you going through its the pits anit it! its my first time of taking clomid, and am very scared of taking it, i have 3 children one 22ys in june ,ds 19ys and jack who will be 4 in june, i have never had a problem befor all 3 were accidents and i was on the pill(good ones though), and now when i was one i carnt.

good luck to allxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

hi all, just to update you. I went to hospital again this morning (day 18) and there is 1 19.5mm follicle. I can't tell you what a releif this is.

Nurse said its normal to ovulate later, even though I normally ovulate around day 14. She didn't sound too sure of herself so I wasn't convinced. The main thing is its looks likely that I will ovulate in the next few days (hooray!)

I am going to ask a daft question because I can't get my head round it. in the past I have been told that I may not respond to fertility drugs because of my elevated fsh. When I asked what that meant I was told that I just wouldn't respond! For a person with unexplained infertility who ovulates every month what is a 'no response'. I would have thought this meant the body would continue to do what it normally does i.e ovulate. Am I wrong? skbf you mentioned your dr saying something about this earlier. is anyone able to explain to me?

even with my elevated fsh I have responded fine to the iui drugs and now it seems the clomid. It is gradually coming down (don't know why?) so response can only get better I assume.

Thanks skbf - it was obviously a massive shock to us both but we coped (and are coping) pretty well really. The real cruelness of it all though was that it took us nearly 5 years ttc the first time..
Being prescribed clomid again has put a bit of a spring in my step as I was expecting another great long wait!
We're off on our hols later today so here's to a relaxing April before the major bd-ing and clomid in May!

Trace2 - Hi! I have also just completed my first cycle of clomid (un-successfully) but I was also wondering about what you said - We are to take them on days 2-6 but like you said, you prob won't ov until a few weeks later. I too don't ov on the 14th day, in fact about the 20th - 27th. So does anyone know if we should be taking the pills later? Or do the wonder pills do 'whatever they do' at the beginning of the cycle?

Loubie - What a dilemma. But the other scary thing is that these highly qualified doctors are getting prescriptions wrong, I know we all can make mistakes, but imagine what an irresposible desperado (like me!) would have done with your higher dosage!

And like SKBF said, its prob not a good idea to take something that has not been prescribed for you.

But I'm going to take a leaf out of your book and get the results from my cons. I don't know any of my levels for anything!! Someone said earlier on here about having to 'peer over the docs shoulder' to try and see the results. It shouldn't have to be like that!

Good luck all!

Naditude x
CD4

naditude i have no idea what happens, but i have to go for blood tests on day 21 every month to see if i have ovulated, and ive been told that if i use my person, or ovulation sticks becuase of clomid they can give a false reading, so will have to look for other signs of ovulation, but because ive not been ovulating i have had no cevil fluid so will have to do bding from day 10 to 24 omg dh will be knakerd

I have just rang the hosp to get my past results of blood tests and they won't give me them!

I tried to explain that he has given me them before when I went in but I didn't really understand them then and didn't write them down. But now having read what you are all posting about your FSH levels, I will be able to learn more about my cycle.

She said that I will have to wait for my next appointment! AUGUST! Fuming's not the word. I asked her to send them in a letter, she said the secretary is off for a week!

Naditude x
CD4