CLOMID GANG - the new thread

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This should be clomid and IUI (for Katierocket) thread. Hoping this one will be luckier than the last - can't be any worse, don't think we had a single BFP did we?

Lots and lots and lots of luck to us all.

Oh god SKBF that's terrible - I would be stamping my feet at whoever ballsed your result on Saturday up. Please take care of yourself. many hugs to you.

That's disgusting, to build your hopes up like thay. I am very :( and also on your behalf. My local hosp did a similar thing to me during my m/c last year and it is awful

Thinking of you
J

Oh that's terrible SKBF - I'm so gutted to hear this. Take care of yourself, thinking of you.

can't believe that skbf feel very for you and i think i would also be extremely angry for them getting your blood results wrong. I would think that you need time to get your head around all of this. hugs to you xx.
went for my blood test this am so will ring up next week. thats if it doesn't mysteriously disappear for about 3 weeks like it did a few months ago
have been out to by some evening primrose oil to see if that will make a difference for next month

hugs to you all hoping you all get your beanies soon xx

skbf, im so so very sorry,

thinking of you
xx

skbf oh no i am so so so very very sorry sending you a huge hug (((((((((((((HUG)))))))))))))):(

SKBF I can't believe it, am gutted for you. What a complete cock up. Take care of yourself, I hope it isn't an ectopic. and enjoy that drink tonight, hon.

Becki and Artoo, good luck for your next cycles.

and just to confirm, got my results and I have ov'd in my first cycle, was told the levels were 55.7 on CD21. am now on CD26, so i'm sure I will have af in a couple of days (got a headache, which is usually a sign for me). But very pleased to have ov'd and not have to double the dosage of clomid.

Typing this before DP home. Cons just called and said levels going down which are now 152 which is a good sign in that it is the body's way of preparing for a miscarriage. Even if there is an ectopic the fact that i don't have pain and the levels are going down it means that the body is going back to its normal state. If he saw the size of my bust, I am in no normal state!!! So he asked me if I can go for a blood test on Sunday but I said Monday or Saturday and he feels that Sat is too early so Monday will do. He did say though if I have any shooting pain or unusual pain in the centre above the pubic bone to call their emergency number straight away. I told him taht there was no way i was going to a & e and that I wanted the best man for the job if an ectopic preg is indeed about to rupture and he said they would then find the right man if and when it happens. But the fact that the levels are lowering means I am about to miscarry. So better to know what is really happening. I asked if there was any chance of getting a successful preg with Clomid after this and he said that we shouldn't give up as I have responded well so I am not going to. I had a bad feeling last night and I slept for a total of 3 hours as I suddenly dreaded this scan. Part of me is relieved that I now know that this is not going to result in a baby in November and I feel the worst is over and part of me is v disappionted but it is not the worst news in the world. I know somebody who is 32 and had breast cancer which has now spread to her pelvis and liver and her life insurance have paid out. That is seriously bad news, I will get over my bad news and try again.

Sprinkling baby dust to you all. Don't give up, I'm not going to. I have had a seriously laaarrrge glass of wine to drown my sorrows. I don't feel tearful, just want the bleeding to start.

Thank you for your kind messages.

PS Am starting my eve prim oil tonight to get that cm ready!!

SKBF - nothing I can say to make any sense or make you feel any better, so I just send a hug and wishes that next month you are lucky.

Thank you BeckIf. I am okay actually, its better to know one way or the other and I did feel that it was too good to be true and then I got used to the idea but when the hcg levels were low that planted the see of doubt that all would go well. I was delighted on Sat/Sun when bloods came back very good but last night began to dread the scan when my fears were realised. I don't mind he miscarrying, it was being told that it is poss an ectopic and they wanted to send me to UCH straight away. That sort of hit me and I thought to myself "What sort of mess have I got myself into?". But levels going down so will start to bleed hopefully soon. I am actually okay and balanced about it and haven't cried. When the dr who was very distant told me his fears with an ectopic it sounded so bad. Miscarrying is much easier. I am okay really, of course disappointed but I won't give up. I am looking forward to getting rid of this very tired feeling!

SKBF, I am so sorry. What a rollercoaster to have to go through. Huge amounts of sympathy.

Can't believe life is being so cruel to you SKBF - it's bad enough having to go through a m/c without all this added to it. You're being unbelievably strong too, which is admirable. Really hoping that you get a BFP again soon x

Thank you Loubie and eldestgirl. I have everything I could possibly want in my life so I have alot to be grateful for and I regard this as a blip I am already over. I don't feel that life is being cruel, just testing to see if I really want a third baby or not. And I do, that is the only thing missing (and youth as I am now over 40!) so everything okay really, just more clomid, BDing, etc to get what I want. Went to bed at 9pm and slept through until 7am so feel really well rested after 3hrs sleep the night before. Might now go skiing during the easter break which I wouldn't have considered when I thought preg was okay.

I know, I feel the same way SKBF. I have two lovely children, but I can't stop longing for another.
A holiday may be just what you need. Get away from it all!

hugs SKBF, what a dreadful cock-up, I'm really sorry you've been messed around so much :( Enjoy the holiday - I hope you come back relaxes and refreshed and all ready to try again.

Thanks for the advice about the EPO - I'm actually taking a selection of herbal supplements recommended for women on clomid which includes EPO (up to OV only), so I think I'm covered on that front :)

Hugs,
Artoo.

Sending HUGS to everyone, esp. SKBF. Hope there are lots of BFPs around in April.

AF started today, not a real big surprise, so cycle 2 of clomid starts tomorrow. I'm still hanging on to the hope that I will have another baby before I'm 40, it's cutting it fine!

Can I ask about EPO, this is recommended then up to ovulation - what should the dosage be?

And I am going to start with the OPKs this month, are there any particular brands that work better with clomid does anyone know?

Hello everybody. I haven't been around for a couple of days as I have had a couple of deadlines to concentrate on. Still no sign of bleeding and am going for blood test on Monday or Tuesday depending on childcare as kiddies off of nursery. Keep seeing preg women everywhere and if they are not preg they are pushing a newborn! Arghhh! But I wish them well as I was once in that position.

While the clinic made a huge mistake, the outcome is still the same which is a preg that isn't going anywhere. I do feel that I have put on weight with clomid, I started getting puffy just after I finished taking it and wonder if any of you feel the same. Just want to get rid of these enormous preg breasts!

I have decided not to go skiing as DP going with his elder children (not from me) and a couple of friends and it won't be a holiday where I will get alot of attention so I will stay in London with children and do lots of kiddy orientated things for them.

Jodee, sorry to read that you got AF. I was really hoping you wouldn't. Just keep going, don't give up. I take epo all month but I have heard somewhere that it can be taken until ov. It's up to you but the clomid dries out the area where we want the sperm to thrive so do take x3 500mg per day whether it is all cycle or just til ov for max effect. Good luck!

You know, reading one mum's bereavement/miscarriage thread on losing her baby Isaac and having to arrange his funeral who I think was 18 wks gestation made me cry. It also reinforces the fact that my egg didn't grow beyond 4mm and while I am sad I would not wish a late miscarriage on anybody. The heartbreak is just unimaginable.

Hello everybody. I haven't been around for a couple of days as I have had a couple of deadlines to concentrate on. Still no sign of bleeding and am going for blood test on Monday or Tuesday depending on childcare as kiddies off of nursery. Keep seeing preg women everywhere and if they are not preg they are pushing a newborn! Arghhh! But I wish them well as I was once in that position.

While the clinic made a huge mistake, the outcome is still the same which is a preg that isn't going anywhere. I do feel that I have put on weight with clomid, I started getting puffy just after I finished taking it and wonder if any of you feel the same. Just want to get rid of these enormous preg breasts!

I have decided not to go skiing as DP going with his elder children (not from me) and a couple of friends and it won't be a holiday where I will get alot of attention so I will stay in London with children and do lots of kiddy orientated things for them.

Jodee, sorry to read that you got AF. I was really hoping you wouldn't. Just keep going, don't give up. I take epo all month but I have heard somewhere that it can be taken until ov. It's up to you but the clomid dries out the area where we want the sperm to thrive so do take x3 500mg per day whether it is all cycle or just til ov for max effect. Good luck!

You know, reading one mum's bereavement/miscarriage thread on losing her baby Isaac and having to arrange his funeral who I think was 18 wks gestation made me cry. It also reinforces the fact that my egg didn't grow beyond 4mm and while I am sad I would not wish a late miscarriage on anybody. The heartbreak is just unimaginable.

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Hi all. I started the 2nd and last course of Clomid on Thursday. We were only given two attempts and then it's straight onto IVF. On our last cycle the CD21 blood test showed I hadn't ovulated but my FF chart showed it on CD25, so this time we are going for the blood test ON CD25. Neither of us culd wish any harder that this attempt works. We want to conceive on our own, to be able to share that special time when only we know ... but we'll take an method to bring us a long waited anf wished for baby.

Hi SKBF, thanks for the EPO info, I picked up some one a day capsules today (1050mg) so will take them until I ov. I'm not giving up, this will be the month, I'm sure, sending out loads of positive vibes to you too.

Sadly, and by a strange coincidence as I hadn't seen that thread, I've just found out that a neighbour, who I didn't know was preg, just lost her boy at 18 weeks gest. I feel so, so sad for them.

BeckiF, I really hope you have success this month, keeping everying crossed for you.

BeckIf, sorry to read you did not ovulate this month. I can't remember if you are having follicle tracking or not? If you do go down the IVF route, have you chosen a clinic or have you yet to decide? Good luck this month. What dosage of clomid are you taking?

Jodee, I am glad you have bought the epo. Do watch out for the cm, it's a joy to see when you know how important it is and when you know the epo works.

I am due for my blood test on MOnday but haven't arranged it yet as I am not sure about childcare, I have a new mother's help starting on Monday and don't want to leave them with her on the first day but will prob book it for Tuesday. However, thankfully I started to bleed last night which is such a relief. So if that is the case, I probably don't need to go for the blood test as the hcg levels are irrelevant if I am miscarrying? Not sure, will ring on Monday to find out. Usually when I see blood when ttcing I am really down about it! This time I smiled as I have been waiting for it!! Am getting tummy ache and will enjoy curling up with a hot water bottle today.

DP going skiing next weekend for a week so will be back on day 14 of cycle. While I shall give the clomid a break for a month, I will still ttc this month but don't know if my follicles will be large enough or indeed if any clomid from last month will still be in my system and will have an effect. Will also be scanned I suppose when the bleeding stops - how long does the bleeding last, is it just like a heavy period? - and if it mid cycle while I won't be follicle tracked this month, I suppose I will see the follicles? Don't know but will find out.

Good luck this month everybody!

BeckiF - I'm not completely sure about this...but, those cd21 tests assume you have a 'normal' 28 day cycle when you ovulate on day 14 - hence they test a week later on the 21st. However, my cons told me to book my blood test in with the nurse for a week after I think I have ovulated (when my OPK says so!). So therefore, I think you're blood test would have def showed you haven't ov'd - because you hadn't by then. So in actual fact, your chart showed you ov'd on day 25 - you should have booked your blood test for day 32. The blood test looks for this hormone present AFTER you've ov'd.

I have irregular and long cycles and am on my first cycle of clomid. But I have had these blood tests for the last 4 months and I have got the corresponding results with my chart, i.e get a pos opk, go for blood test in 7 days, get a pos ov blood test. My consultant has explained this to me, its a wonder yours didn't. Instead I think you may have been given a false neg result on your blood because you just tested too early.

I hope this makes sense. Maybe others will disagree with this but this is what my cons has told me and this is they way I have been doing my (so called CD21) blood tests. They are called CD21 tests but they are based on that old myth that everyone has a 28 day cycle and so will then be ovulating on day 14.

So, this first cycle I ov'd on day 20 (OPK and chart showed this), I phoned the surgery and got appointment for them to take my blood the following friday (day 27). I'll ring the hosp in a couple of weeks to get results(or with a bit of luck i won't need to as I'll get a BFP before!). Hope this helps BeckiF. Talk to your cons about it. Let me know what the outcome is.

P.S If your chart says you ov'd and you did plenty of bd'ing, then there is always a good chance! If my above theory is correct! Good luck!

BeckiF, that's encouraging what naditude has said. It does make sense but I can't understand why you haven't been informed of this? Don't give up hope.

AF arrived on Sunday. Knew it was coming as had no symptoms of pg at all. Still lay awake in early hours of Sunday morning wondering what to do if I never have another baby. These things seem so much worse at night.
So started clomid cycle 3 today....
SKBF: Glad to hear things are resolving themselves naturally.

Thanks for the input! I rather think my doc thought that the clomid would somehow give me a regular cycle. She also said that she doesn't like temp charting either. But from waht I have seen it's spot on. Anyway, I will take your advice and use my OPK and go AFTER/IF they show a positive ovulation ... last day of the Clomid today and already I've been hit with the hot flushes for a couple of days. Everything crossed for this month, our last hope at doing it on our own!!