CLOMID GANG - the new thread

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This should be clomid and IUI (for Katierocket) thread. Hoping this one will be luckier than the last - can't be any worse, don't think we had a single BFP did we?

Lots and lots and lots of luck to us all.

Hoping it's good news for you tomorrow, SKBF.

Thank you both. Will post when kiddies in bed after my phone call. I am both optimistic and prepared for the worst. Can't understand why I haven't started bleeding naturally after all the cramps? Do you mind bubbly if I ask you what day you were when you miscarried when you had a low hcg result? Thanks

skbf, its a bit complicated so bear with me...

i did iui, and was to go in for bloods on wednesday, i bled a tiny bit on tuesday, rang clinic and said no point coming in as af is here...

but they like you to go in anyway, so on wednesday i went in, id stopped bleeding by tuesday night, it was just spotting before that.

wednesday they rang to say i was pg, i bled a bit more hour before i had the result, so they told me to rest.

i bedrested and didnt bleed for a day and half...which leads us to friday, where i bled quite a bit, but in all this time my levels were rising, but very very slowly
so still thinking/hoping im pg

by the monday my levels were slowly going down, id stop bleeding, i didnt get any cramps, it was just like a period, not even heavy.

by the end of the week, they had gone to nil, thats when i realised id miscarried, in hindsight i should have let the pg go when i bled and they told me levels were dropping, but i was in denial

tuesday is round the corner, it wont be long now hun..fingers crossed
x

Hi - good luck for today SKBF - thinking of you.

good luck skbf, i know today will be a very long day for you so i hope you can keep your mind occupied as much as you can
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Hi all (and espec. SKBF)! Sending out good luck vibes...

Changing the subject slightly, (not wanting to detract from the important issue surrounding us) but as you know started charting my temp and reading 'taking charge of your fertility'. My temps have been all in the same area (97.3-4_ but yesterday and this morning dipped so low they weren't on the chart! (96.4)

Anyone had this happen to them? Any possible reasons why?

In the book it says that a possible sudden dip is a sign your estrogen levels are 'doing something' (can't remember what) and you're ovulating. But I have been using LH strips since day 11 and no pos yet, (They have been accurate so far) so don't think I'm ovulating today. Am on day 16 today. And am sure I can feel 'activity' in my left ovary but this could be all in my head as I am expecting the clomid to do big things!

To top things off - my Teaching assistant (I'm a teacher( has told me this morning she is preg!! And she hasn't even been trying!

Grrrr.

Anyway, I'm sure we'll all be on tonight waiting for positive news!!

You get the temp dip BEFORE you ovulate, the day before. If it shoots up tomorrow, check your strip! Good luck.

In case you don't remember I arranged for an extra appointment with my specialist to try and arrange follicle tracking for my last 2 clomid cycles. That appointment was today, and I think I'm pleased with the way it went, although I didn't get the answers I necessarily wanted!

Basically it's like this. My hospital doesn't have an 'Assisted Reproduction Unit' so the most they can do locally is prescribe Clomid and do CD21 blood tests to monitor. They don't do follicle tracking locally because they simply don't have the resources. The next step after Clomid would be a referral to an APU (the nearest one for us I think is Sheffield which is an hours drive away. The problem we have is that any referral to an APU (in our health authority, this may not be the case in other areas) they look at whether you meet the criteria for NHS funding. I don't because I already have kids (even though Matt has none of his own). So I don't qualify for anything else on the NHS, not even follicle tracking/IUI.

I do have some options - I can remain on Clomid but there are concerns that long term use can lead to ovarian cancer. I can also consider 'egg sharing' which basically means I would go for IVF at a reduced cost if I agree to my eggs being used as donor eggs for someone else, or I can go privately full stop.

So I've got lots to think about....

What he has agreed to do is let me have Day 21 blood tests done for these last 2 months, so at least I'll know if the Clomid is working. If it isn't, then I think it will be easier drawing a line under everything. If it is working though, I've got a really difficult decision ahead of me. So I'm not going to think about it too much unless I have to I don't think. The only thing I do know is that if the next 2 blood tests show it's working, I'm going to have at least a month off and ask for another blood test. If this shows I'm ovulating without clomid then it will be easier to come off it IYKWIM.

One thing this has highlighted though is that I don't think I'm ready just yet to go down the adoption route...it seemed like months away when we first broached it in January, but the reality is now that it's only 6-7 weeks until my last Clomid cycle ends I'm not sure whether I'll be ready emotionally to give up the dream of having our own baby (Bearing in mind we've been told if we're serious about adopting we'll have to give an undertaking that we're not actively trying for a baby anymore)

Decisions decisions.....

I know what I'm doing tonight - enjoying a glass (or two) of wine to take my mind off it!!

Loubie xx
CD9

SKBF....any news yet hun? Thinking of you x

loubie, just checking here as well, thinking the same xxx

And me - SKBF, hope things ok, let us know how you got on...

Kiddies in the bath when nurse rang so called my mother's help to take over so I could update you all as you have been sooooo supportive and kind and I owe it to you to tell you quick!!

Went for blood test with my enormous breasts which really convinces me that I am preg and they promised to call at 6.30pm. Well they did and said that my levels are going up and are now 182.8 which they are happy with - whooooopeeeee - but they want to continue monitoring them so am going back on saturday at 11.45am and will hopefully have the results the same day. If lab is closed, I didn't ask btw, then will have results on Monday. She still had concern in her voice which means basically I am not out of the woods but even if my hcg test results were good last week I would still be open minded about the whole thing until I get my cvs done at 11-12 weeks. Will also have a scan next week

So alot of fuss about nothing!!! Had I not had blood test then wouldn't have had the dismal news. My main concern since the weekend when I didn't bleed was that I wanted to miscarry naturally rather than have a gen aneasthetic and a d & c. I was really prepared for the worst and was just looking ahead to the next clomid cycle and working out when DP will be skiing, etc. Also, I must say that I have never had a pos result from a preg test before day 35 even with early morning urine so my past experience is low hcg levels in the beginning but try telling a doctor that!!!!

As I type this I am shaking.

Good luck to all of you this month. Will read rest of thread later when I have a moment.

Thank you all again.

Need to get kiddies out of bath and will read Loubies post later.

Still shaking.

I will I will I will have another baby. And I hope so will all of you!!

SKBF that's great news! Sending loads of positive vibes for the weekend test to be OK too.

Woo hoo - COngrats SKBF - that's fab news! Fingers tightly crossed for a happy and healthy 9 months for you!

Update from me - having read up a lot on Clomid on the web (thanks Google!) and on here that Clomid lengthens your cycle, I am now on CD36 of a pre Clomid, regular-as-clockwork 29 day cycle. I have discussed it with DP and we are not going to test until Tuesday early am as I have a fertility consultant appointment at 9.00 am and I will need to tell her what's going on.

So, trying really hard not to get hopes up, don't feel pg (what little I know of the symptoms) but don't feel like af is about to show either. Far too scared to test yet as still scared of a BFN. Ignorance is bliss at the mo - m/c still v fresh in mind

Keep your fingers crossed for me!

Congrats again SKBF

Loubie - sorry to hear you didn't quite get the answers you were looking for but at least you got some answers. It's must be such a hard decision... hope you are ok.

Fab news SKBY, so pleased for you and fingers crossed that the news will stay good :)

And good luck to you Jen - sounds promising!

Congratulations skbf, Ive a 7month ds after spending 18months on clomid, and after a miscarriage so it can work even with PCO.

Fingers crossed for saturday! :)

Loubie, read your post, if you are considering going to a private clinic, why don't you do follicle tracking and possibly IUI there. The beauty of the dr seeing the follicle(s) is that you have continuous scanning and you can even have the follicle stimulating hormone to release the egg(s). It is all done in a very controlled way, you don't have to take your temp, look for cm, you have a dr telling you how large it it / they are and when!!! I wonder if doing the last 2 months of clomid under the supervision of a private clinic would be better for you? I don't want maybe answers, I want definite answers and to be shown my follicles on two different days and to see them grow was so reassuring even though they cannot tell if there is an egg inside. Yes you do have a lot to think about, and if you do start the adoption process of course you can sign that you won't try for a baby, but what can they do if you do get preg? If you have already adopted they can't remove the adopted baby/child, and if you are preg before the end of the adoption process, well you will have your own biological baby!! It is a well known phenomena that couples after trying for years who then adopt get preg! You could be one of those.
Good luck with your decisions. Add shoulder stands to your routine this month, you never know! Sorry to be so personal.

Thank you everybody for your kind messages. Was happy but then looked at americanpregnancy.org and read about hcg levels and while it says that scanning is more reliable than hcg levels, I put in the two results and the dates and it equalled 'half life' which is not good. So feeling gloomy again and reminding myself that the website says that low hcg levels can result in healthy pregs. I supposed when I embarked on this journey, I knew it wouldn't be easy. Didn't know what bloody hcg levels were before all this though!

skbf, i been thinking of you and even though i read your message earlier, i wasnt able to post as i had to tend to ds, and now im here to congratulate you ive just read your last message.

i dont know what to say, scared to get your hopes high, but dont want you to feel down either as your doctor has said they are rising.

for all you know this is how all your pg's start off like you said, so its a case of holding on tight and waiting to see what happens.

i hope its good news on the weekend, another lot of waiting for you though till then

SKBF - It all sounds good! But like Bubbly 1973, don't want to raise hopes. Rootin for ya.

Loubie37 - hope you enjoyed your wine, I've even cut down on that in my bid for baby! But also had a few tonight. Lovely.

BeckiF - I'll check out my temp in the morning, hope the wine won't affect it! But will do strip again. Here's hoping!

Actually, while my breasts are enormous and I am starting to feel sick (with worry?) I am not hopeful about the whole thing and just want the bleeding to start so I can get on with my next attempt at ttc. When I read about Mower's hcg levels on the anti natal thread, hers are so much higher than mine at the same stage of pregnancy that my levels look pathetic. Anyway, end of moan. Will go for blood test on Saturday unless I start bleeding earlier. Going to work today, will find it hard to smile.

Where is everybody? Have I depressed you all??!!

The last post is me getting dismal about my situation which just won't do.

Where are you all up to in your cycle this month and are any of you about to test? Still want to hear your anticipation and good news!

I'm here! How are you doing SKBF? I'm quiet at the moment coz not at lot going on! Just waiting for either AF to arrive or Consultant appointment on Tuesday - whichever happens first! Am now on CD 38 so beginning to wonder what on earth is going on!

Hope everyone else is ok? Has anyone heard from Rachee?