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Sixth Form Common Room part III - post mc ttc & pregnancy

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ZamMummyInGabs · 21/05/2011 17:27

Hoping to continue the trend of the lucky thread....

OP posts:
MissTinaTeaspoon · 01/07/2011 07:49

Another day, another bfn Sad (on an ic)

Blackkat · 01/07/2011 08:53

(((hugs))) for Tina I'm Sad for you x

MissTinaTeaspoon · 01/07/2011 09:31

I'm really confused though...I still feel nauseous and my boobs are really sore. I'm only day 25 so maybe too early to test but I'm 13 dpo so surely it would show up on a test by now?! If af does rear her ugly head over the weekend ive persuaded dh to go back to the gp and I'll request some bloods too. What do I need to ask for? Is it day 2/3 and then 21? I hope it all fits in with my cycle because I can't go on Monday because we've got dd's introductory school visit so it'll have to be Tues, my drs is a right pain in the arse neck because I'd have to go there first for forms then the hospital for the bloods! Which means queuing for up to an hour to park then another hour for the bloods! Then the gp will undoubtably not get the results for days...nightmare! Ok rant over.

CollieandPup · 01/07/2011 09:57

Tina am sorry Sad I've just loooked over my old posts and i didn't get my first line until 13dpo and it was the faintest of faintest lines. In my first pg i got it at 14 dpo. I think dpo is better to go off when testig that cd especially as your ov days have been varying. FX AF stays away though. xx

MissTinaTeaspoon · 01/07/2011 10:46

Nope I'm out...spottings started, it's just a short cycle Sad

CollieandPup · 01/07/2011 11:22

Sad tina ((huge hugs)) xxxx

Have you got anything nice to do tonight? Apart from having a glass of Wine firmly in hand.

MissTinaTeaspoon · 01/07/2011 11:25

Nope! I'm off to work! Sad

CollieandPup · 01/07/2011 11:34

That doubly sucks Sad i am so sorry sweet. I dearly wish you'd get your bfp soon. xx

I think visiting the GP is a good idea. You were trying for a while before you got pg last time right? I really don't know what to suggest asking, but the lovely ladies on here are very wise so i'm sure will help.

xxx

batteryhen · 01/07/2011 11:38

tina crap news. Af arriving is always like a kick in the teeth every month. Also crap that you have to go to work too xxx

Just a quickie post from me. I am back to work on monday which I feel Ok about. I am back for a wek then have a week off again so that is OK.

A quick question, it will be 2 weeks tomorrow that I had the ERPC , but I am still showing a positive test. I think the last time I had an erpc I had a negative test by now. Any words of wisdom? I spoke to my Dr today and he said to test again on wednesday, he didn't seem concerned really.

I hope you all are ok xxxx

AandRMum · 01/07/2011 14:23

Hi All - thanks for the thoughts - and averted eyes - my poor boobs were squished and prodded and I had to go back for additional views and an ultra sound before they finally gave me the all clear - phew!!! I have been teary ever since. I think the DDs picked up the mood and both ended up crying all the way through their nursery concert - which is all I wanted to do Sad Why does it all have to be this stressful. I keep having flashbacks to my heady Uni/early working life of feeling carefree and in charge of my body!!!

Battery I am pretty sure it took me over two weeks to get a definitive BFP and the further along you get the longer it takes to drop out of the system. It took me almost a month for my hair to stop falling out.

Tina bah humbug - booze it up girl!

I think I want a bfn this month as then I won't have to worry about whether I fried the little un with the mammogram. I realised I was only 5dpo and I just couldn't face waiting another 10 days to find out if the breast thing was ok so I just went ahead - I figured that the stress of waiting would have triggered an mc in any case (sad how resigned I am getting to all of this)

Oh well things seem to be moving on our house plans and I have been extended at work at a higher rate so we may be able to pay the architects!

Waves to all

Youremindmeofthebean · 01/07/2011 15:14

battery it took me 3 weeks to get a clear negative after my erpc, annoyingly. Hope it happens for you soon. I used ic's and could see the line getting fainter.

aandr that's a massive woop for an all clear mammogram. I bet that's such a relief for you. And how exciting about the house plans! Everything always seems to happen at the same time doesn't it!

dacha hope you're having a lovely relaxing time.

Izz I did manage to find something, I got a normal floaty cobalt blue top thing and paired that with some skinny mat jeans for my waist's comfort, wedges, and ready to go! I hope it's not cold! It's tonight, and I'm quite looking forward to it, even though I'll be leaving by 10 to. Take ds home. Suits me quite well, I think! Vanish before everyone gets ratarsed. Aww for the belly and feelingkicks. It's so nice when oh gets to feel it.

Got babysitting for 2 mOnth old on Sunday, I feel like I've forgotten what to do!

Tina I'm so sorry that you seem to be out this month, it's so disheartening. Be kind to yourself and get drunk over the weekend in the sunshine. It doesn't solve anything, but it really helps. Hugs x

Waves to all, hope you all have a nice weeken, I'll be back Monday!

MissTinaTeaspoon · 01/07/2011 15:31

Good news on the tests AandR Smile

Enjoy yrmotb Grin

It took me just over 2 weeks battery, after medical management at nearly 12 weeks.

Thanks collie and blackkat. I'm feeling so Sad today as it's been a year now and that's not an anniversary I wanted to see Sad. I just want another baby so much! I've got a plan now though. Gp on Tuesday for bloods, if they won't do them/everythings fine and they can't help there's a reputable fertility clinic 5 mins away. That'll cost obviously but at least things'll be moving...I need to feel like I'm doing something! I think what I'm most concerned about is scarring from my cs - when I've mentioned that to the gp before though they've dismissed it completely. Confused

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 01/07/2011 19:38

aandr great news on the tests Grin no wonder you're feeling emotional though. Have a large Wine and try, try, try to relax x

Tina I'm sorry she got you Sad. Fx you get a sympathetic gp who takes you seriously. In the meantime have a large Wine as well.

battery I think it can be really variable, it was only a week to bfn for me (after erpc at 17 weeks) but I know it took my dsis over three weeks (after erpc at 9 weeks) so unfortunately I think all you can do is try again in another few days Sad

yrmotb that outfit sounds lovely, hope you have a great time. Do your friends know about the pg yet? I had to go to a 40th at 10 weeks when no one knew but got away with not drinking because I had the dcs with me and had to drive but I was earlier than you so it wasn't obvious. Enjoy your evening anyway x

Well I've had a fairly successful shopping day, went to a proper bra shop for a proper fitting and acquired some new bras. They are so much comfier and look much better! I've gone from a 34b to a 34dd or 32e Blush so now look as though I've had a boob job Grin

On the down side, I'm flapping about ds who got kicked in the arm at school on Wednesday Sad it hasn't come up much and he's fine moving it but is really really sensitive to touch (even putting clothes on etc). So I'm fretting in case it's some kind of fracture - someone tell me I'm being daft and slap me, please!!!

Oh and I've just realised my 20 week scan is the anniversary of my erpc last year - is this a really bad omen? Sad

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 01/07/2011 19:39

Ps yrmotb I would be so nervous with a 2 month old now!! But I'm sure it'll all come flooding back, like riding a bike, surely? Hmm Smile

MummyAbroad · 01/07/2011 20:48

sorry about AF Tina Are your periods normal flow/heavy? If so, I wouldnt worry too much about scar tissue. I had scar tissue on both the uterus and cervix and it drastically affected my periods, stopped completely for 8 months and then after surgery they were much much lighter. Also my womb lining was very thin. A good lining pre-ov (the scan must be timed accurately) is >7mm, mine was 3mm before surgery and 5.5mm after.

www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female

Here is a good site that gives a nice overview of the "basic" hormone tests (the day 2, and day 21 you mentioned, yes ask your GP for these and if you can/have to, exagerate how long you have been ttc, some will not do them until you have been ttc-ing a year with no luck (outrageously, an mc counts as "luck"!)

Happy holidays dach I am another big venice fan, eat some gelato for me Smile

Issy/YRMOTB I had a long cuddle with a two month old baby from the orphanage down the road yesterday. Yes it does all come flooding back! (fell in love with her in about 5 mins!)

Issy I'm good thanks, bit knackered now, DS is on holiday from nursery school (3 weeks!) so its a bit hard juggling job and him but we are managing. Horrah for new bras! I can really recommend treating yourself to some new slippers and dressing gown too - you may be spending a lot of time in them in a few months! Hope your DS's arm is OK, poor mite. Anniversay is not a bad omen at all (all superstitious beliefs are to be steadfastly ignored when it comes to pregancy after mc) but it will mean you will probably have a bit more on your mind that day. Is your DH going with you?

AandR phew phew phew! I am really pleased for you, I bet it will take some time though for the good news to sink in, as its been quite a long process. I know what you mean about worrying about radiation etc, I was the same after an HSG, I was told that it was OK to TTC right after but in the end the BFP didnt come that month and I was glad of it.

MissTinaTeaspoon · 01/07/2011 23:29

mummya I have fairly heavy periods, it's really just the difficulties we've had ttc and the mc that made me think of Ashermans. I don't know what my uterine wall thickness is now but after the mc I seem to remember it being about 10mm? And when I had a scan before Christmas when I was a few days post ov (and actually pregnant but I didn't know it) the radiographer remarked that it was normal for that time in my cycle so I assume it's ok. I think I'm just looking for reasons, we conceived dd so easily and I'm obviously older but I'm 30 so that shouldn't really make much difference. It makes me realise just how lucky we are to have her. I can't really lie to the drs because they obviously know when I mc and I went there after 6 months of trying to request testing and got offered a scan. I'll try my luck and get what I can then go private for the rest. A consultation inc scan and semen analysis but not bloods is £325 at our nearest clinic, to have my tubes checked is £350. Does that sound reasonable? It's a very good clinic as far as success rates go.

MummyAbroad · 02/07/2011 01:11

Hi Tina, 10mm is an excellent lining measurement. I have been talking to ladies on an Ashermans board for over a year now, and the vast majority of us have very thin linings, its a "clue" that you have AS, not a fool proof diagnosis. The fact that you have a thick lining and the flow of your periods has not changed does make AS seem less likely. There are two doctors in London who are reknowned world wide as AS specialists, I went to see one (Dr Lower) for surgery last year. He charges £250 for a 4d ultrasound scan to look for scar tissue (and more for consultation). So the price of your clinic sounds similar BUT "ordinary" clinics and gynecologists would not recognise scar tissue if they saw it on a scan (Dr Lower has years of experience with this) but they can look for others things, like lining measurement. Make sure you go just before Ov and ask them to check your ovaries and confirm that they can see pre ovulatory follicles (these would be >11mm, and would confirm you are definately pre ov) thats when lining will be thickest and most "even" they should see a "triple stripe pattern" meaning that the lining is continuous and even, no bumps, missing bits or thin patches. After ov this pattern breaks down so you would have missed your chance to check for this if you go too late in your cycle. A bumpy, uneven lining pre ov, would be another indicator of scar tissue.

By "having your tubes checked" do you mean HSG? If so, I think its good price, but I am not sure, I had mine done over here in Costa Rica, medical stuff is usually about 1/4 of the price here than it is in the UK. (mine was £68) As well as checking your tubes are not blocked, HSG will also show up scar tissue, so if you get one, ask for a digital or hard copy of the films, so you can send them to an AS specialist - AS is really too rare for most gynecologists/fertility specialists to be able to identify. IMO the best AS specialist in the world (he has successfully treated thousands of women), is Dr Charles March, you can send him your HSG results ([email protected]) with a brief description of your history and he will reply with his opinion for free. He has replied to several of my emails and viewed my HSG slides for free, and regularly does the same for other women on the AS board.

Have you ever done charting? Its a good way to see for yourself if you are ovulating regularly or not, what length your LP is etc I thoroughly recommend it, together with tests it can tell you a lot. If you havent already read it, get a copy of Taking Charge of Your Fertility and read it asap. Also, (excuse the personal question but) how is your cervical fluid? 30 is not old (spring chicken to me, I am 36 Grin) but changes in CF as you get older can make getting pregnant harder, but there are things you can do to improve it (drink more water, EPO tablets, pink grapefruit juice and guaifenesin)

Hope you manage to get the bloods and maybe a scan too on the NHS, that would certainly help get your started. I think the HSG is worth paying for because even if it comes back clear, you wont have wasted your money because the "flush through" of your tubes gives you a little fertility boost. Many women (including me Smile) get pregnant very quickly after an HSG.

MissTinaTeaspoon · 02/07/2011 02:27

Thanks mummya! what a lot to take in. I don't think I'll get another scan on the NHS as my last one was fine, I'm going to ask for the bloods and mention my scarring concerns and see if I can blag a hsg. Otherwise, I'll see what dh's results come back like and consider a private consultation then. I'm assuming the NHS will require some waiting!

I tried epo but it aggravated my cervical erosion. I find that flax seed oil helps though. I have considered guaiphensin but grapefruit juice, bleugh! Grin

MissTinaTeaspoon · 02/07/2011 02:28

Add I haven't tried charting because I'm not sure what to do about the night shifts!

digitalgirl · 02/07/2011 10:23

Delurking to get this back on my 'threads I'm on'

Tina sorry about AF Sad but sounds like you're taking control with the tests. Hope they set your mind at ease.

battery I wouldn't be concerned either. Give it a few days and it will probably be a bfn. Feel a bit Sad typing that - but we know it's the only time we wish for a bfn.

aandr hooray for the all clear!

izzy if its still hurting today I'd go to a&e and get ds x-rayed. They see children asap so you won't be hanging around for hours. It's probably fine - but always best to make a fuss over nothing than the other way round.

I had my St Mary's appt last Tuesday. Ovaries still borderline polycystic so I guess it'll be a few more months before the Metformin takes effect. They seemed absolutely fine with my prednisolone treatment too, which I'm pleased with as I heard rumours that they didn't agree with it as was worried they'd turn me away. Going back in 4 weeks for results of TEG and repeat APA tests. Am not expecting any further answers from them - my main reason for going to the appointment was to get myself onto their system so when I do get pg again I can have my early scans there instead of at my local epu. Want to break the cycle of bad news from the same scan room.

Off for acupuncture on Tuesday in an attempt to help chivvy the egg along a bit sooner than day 34 this cycle.

TomboyWife · 02/07/2011 10:30

Morning ladies!

Izzy how's your DS? My experience with fractures has been that you might wonder at first if it's really a fracture, but within a few hours it becomes obvious because the area swells up like a balloon.

Tina sorry about AF. And after all those promising symptoms to boot. Sad

Aandr that's great news! You must be so relieved.

I did another test on Thursday morning, remembered how to use the stick properly, didn't tear the stick apart trying to figure out how it worked, and got a clear, unambiguous BFN. To whoever asked when we're TTC again, that'd be now. I know I'm risking my doctors' ire by TTC on the WTF cycle, but I don't think we've succeeded, so I guess what they don't know won't hurt them. Blush

Ladybee · 02/07/2011 11:27

oh. Bloody mumsnet. Have just written an enormous catch up post and then went to post and it says I'm not logged in and lost it. GRRRRRR.

Gah. well it basically went like this:

Thoughtful and caring individual responses to everyone, especial hugs and thoughts to Dachs, Battery and yay to AandR for clear mammogram and hello to digi me ol mucker and boo for AF Tina and also boohoo for me as AF arrived this morning so I'm out as well.

And now I'm going to bed as I no longer have a sore eye (it cleared by itself) but I do have a rubbish cold.

DeterminedToGetDiffedDachs · 02/07/2011 12:49
DeterminedToGetDiffedDachs · 02/07/2011 12:51

Yay for aandr tests, boo for AF and boo for bee's cold

MummyAbroad · 02/07/2011 13:59

sorry for AF LadyB - I am hoping now you are settled in, you are more likely get the BFP this cycle.

Tomboy Sad for BFN

Digi Glad the feedback from tests is helpful. "boarderline" doesnt sound too bad, hope its weeks rather than months before things kick in though. xx

Tina hmmm, night shift and charting would be a bit tricky, but can be done. TCOYF offers some tips on this.

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