JSing viroids, on your marks, get set, shag!

[JosieSmith1]

The (updated)(again)(again)(again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you've had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended). (But it does work).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.
OV is ovulation - I'm allowed to forget what date I've OVd, feel free to join me on that one!

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

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Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Part 5 Graduates:
TakeThatLady - BFP
Vallinna - BFP
SingingMog - BFP
aDarkStarWithStrangeWays - BFP
Eskarina - BFP

Part 6 Graduate
Reality - BFP

Part 7 Graduates:
Katiepie - BFP
CaramelGirl - BFP
Nickelbabe - BFP
Panpie - BFP
Brightcopperkettles - BFP

You seem to feel how I feel at the moment Crow - just fed up with life in general! I really hope you can sort something out with OHs daughter, how old is she? Could it be a 'teenager phase'? It might be time for some tough love, but t's easier said than done. I understand what you mean about pretending it's not happening too, I've got to the stage where I don't care if pg people think I'm being rude by not engaging in their baby conversations, they have no idea what's going on in my life and I have no obligation to share so they can sod off. Speaking of which, I managed to bump into my newly pg friend who I haven't seen since April yet managed to bump into today , the same one who I said in my last post I was dreading seeing for her official announcement, well her first words to me where 'I heard my baby's heartbeat yesterday and I feel fab' I actually hid from her in my horse's field pretending to poo pick while I had a little sulk and a cry (but got some lovely sympathetic hugs off my horse), then I rode over to visit some friends in another yard, and there she was again, and this time she decided to tell me all about how she didn't even know she was pg until the dr told her, and how hearing the heartbeat made it suddenly seem real and not just 2 pink lines on a stick then she managed to break a little more of my heart by lifting her top and holding her belly to my horse's head and asking if she could sense it. It was supposed to be me sharing a moment like that with her . I left at that point, I just couldn't take any more. My side of the conversation was just grunts in response to her comments really, there wasn't much of an actual conversation going on. Oh, and half way during the conversation, she proceeded to light up a ciggie, very healthy.

Not only can I not get pg, but fate is determined to rub it right in my face every opportunity it gets, how much harder can this be made for me?

On the plus side (there has to be one somewhere) we have done quite a lot of JSing so far this week and it's coming up to my fertile time. If it doesn't work when we're JSing every day I don't know what will

crow sounds like you have a girl aged 11-17 in the house! I used to work as a high school teacher and boarding house deputy. Had to laugh one day when a psychologist, referring to different ages and stages of development, chose to call 11-17 for girls as "the boarding house years" as they are so horrid for adults to be around during this period. The boys did not have this name allocated at all! Tough love I say. I used to work on some 'brat camp' style outdoor education programs. 4 weeks in the wilderness, no phone, no junk food, wear them out with walking, cooking own food, digging own loo etc. They then realized taking the trash out for mum and dad wasnt that big a deal after all!

Still awaiting more check ups from doc. Crazy busy at work and struggling to focus. Went in the other day to be told I had hcg in my blood test - no congrats you are preggers, just "hcg in blood work". Doc concerned after a week of bleeding I may have either a chemical pregnancy, incomplete miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy. Then proceeds to say I cannot be fitted in for a scan until Friday :( On asking about chances of a normal pregnancy the reply was, "It's not unheard of for women to menstruate during pregnancy, yet I have never seen a case of it in this clinic". Would it be wrong to hope I am his first case? In the meantime I'm to pop onto a&e if any major abdominal cramping. Focusing on having hcg as positive, means OH's swimmers working ok. Praying my womb does the right thing. Trying to think of this as a positive step forward no matter what the outcome.

As for public pregnancy gloating in first trimester and shoving your belly into a someone elses horse's face, just a tad insensitive. One rule I will have if I get proper preggers is "no insensitive showing off". Sucks on the other end.

Let's all become cats or sloths. I'm sure they never have to deal with this shit. :)

Step daughter is 15 ... she thinks she's grown up My eldest is 17 (18 in 3 months and she's not had a fraction of the attitude as step daughter. OH has had a laissez faire approach to bringing her up ... hasn't wanted to stifle her character etc. All very well, but now he's got an arrogant, ungrateful, spoilt 'free spirit' At times she can be funny, but it's always as a result of being loud and in your face. I can't cope with loud people everything has to be on her terms. I wish I could like her as much as OH thinks I do, but it's difficult ... not that I don't like her, I hasten to add, I just wish she'd be a bit nicer to OH.

Josie my heart goes out to you - some people are just insensitive and don't really see beyond their own little world. Here's hoping your extra JSing pays off this cycle!

Choc sorry about your confusing news ... you did say your last AF was a bit pathetic, so maybe it is the fabled breakthrough bleed? Not wanting to get your hopes up, but not wanting to be negative either (positive vibes will attract more positivity!)

Well, my temp was still high this morning, despite sleeping with the window open ... Ovulation or fever??? Few cramps and boob twinges today - CD20 and no JSing this cycle at all as we've both been feeling grotty and tired

Two days off now, long shift on Sunday, then a week off - can't wait!!!

Hi Ladies

Sorry I've been a bit awol - as expected life and work are getting mega busy just before going on holiday.

choc that's interesting and intriguing about the HCG. You must be biting your nails to the quick at the moment. Fingers crossed it all works out the way we all hope; though as you say the other options do at least suggest things are getting where they need to. Step 1 of the battle I guess? milanomum on this thread came on here one day saying she was out as ERTD had got her. She came back a couple of days later to say it had only lasted one day, so after a couple of days she POAS and got a BFP - she's since given birth to the BFP :). It definitely happens even if it's not that common.

Josie I'm a little bit speechless about your friend. I'm sure your horse was rolling her eyes at her and thinking "what a nutter" . Take a few deep breaths then remember her baby won't be half as nice as yours. And think of the fun we're having JSing in the meantime .

Crow - hmm she sounds a bit of a madam. Never too late for some tough loving, but I guess you and your OH need to be a united front for it to make any difference. I hope she bucks her ideas up soon. .

We've had a weird few days here! won't go into details but loads of things (small and large) kept going wrong. Getting most of them sorted out, but we are currently without heating or hot water. The heating is ok as it's mild and we have a fire if needs be. the cold shower this morning was NOT ok

hee..hee..nelly I had to giggle thinking about josie's horse saying 'what a nutter' and slowing shaking his head from side to side!

a week off crow you lucky thing(may your cold be gone by Monday so you can have a lovely time with OH) and holiday shagging for nelly coming up as well, Josie is being a fantastic JSing rep with OH on board. sounds like happier times are afoot.

still awaiting results. had a scan but "inconclusive". gotta love that word as much as I hate it. good news is not ectopic. but doc unsure if the blob seen is "retained products of conception" or an actual embryo. no heartbeat, so if it is an embryo I must have OVed much later than I thought. doc says he never does a d&c until sure and wants to do another scan on next Friday to double check for any signs of life.
7 days......aaaaarrrrgggghhhhhhhh...........will not have any finger nails left by then. I asked if they can measure hcg levels instead, but they do not use that method here, only scans. doc reckons longer wait, but more conclusive. until then need to keep an eye out for miscarriage or infection signs. delightful. he said not to get my hopes up, but not to dash them either. current cycle of emotions :) OH supportive and a bit optimistic and very over-protective and nervous.

off to watch downtown abbey on tv. I feel a week of tv watching in any spare moment coming on.

may you all have a delightful week of shagging ahead!

God chocolate what a headfuck! I really really hope you get a good result . Have you/can you do a PIAR sod-the-docs-lets-see-what-Boots-say style? I can understand a week worth of the not knowing would be tortuous!

I had my pre-hols waxing today. OH went for a haircut and had his first ever hot-shave today. We'll be having super-smooth loving tonight makes a change

for nelly

poas will not help. can't tell what the level actually is or if going up or down. after last mc I had it hang around for ages. :( OH away for work. recommend any movies anyone?

Ah yes ok makes sense. Re not seeing a heartbeat, would it not be too early for that anyway? What stage would you be at if you were pregnant?

Managed JSing last night even if we were a bit worse for wear after some nice .

Movies? Bridesmaids was hilarious I thought. Anything with Bradley cooper always worth watching . The inbetweeners? Saw a newish Jake Gylenhall recently that was better than we expected. Don't know what you like though!

Hi everyone, Choc I really hope you get some answers soon, you must be going around the bend!

Crow I agree with Nelly, tough love and a united front sounds necessary.

Been busy in my garden again all week, although it's flown by, I'm very not impressed that I'm back at work on Tuesday it explains the bad mood I've been in for a few days, that and someone I thought was a friend isn't speaking to me because I went for a ride at the last minute without her childish! Feel a bit like I can't please anyone at the moment. Can things just be easy and go my way for a while please? Had yet another argument with DH about TTCing where he said he finds sex pretty boring and isn't really bothered how long it takes for me to get pg he sure knows how to make a girl feel special He says I'm too tense, too stressed and no fun to be around I told him he obviously doesn't realise how much I want to get pg and doesn't understand how it feels to us women who are struggling.

Nelly totally agree with you on the Bradley Cooper thing . I'm currently drooling over Kiefer Sutherland watching 24 with DH (not right this moment, but it's what we're watching in general).

I must admit Bradley cooper's blue eyes are rather nice! I'm a bit of a closet action movie fan. my husband loved it when he worked out I'd happily watch stuff like Die Hard! rom coms only when hubby not around. the Bourne series is my current favorite to watch again and again.

hugs for Josie. and a glass of red. I find a glass of red always helps, sounds like your OH requires a whole bottle to get him in the mood. my OH went through a phase where he did not want to be a sperm machine and was very vocal about it. I had to pull back and let him initiate any shagging and lead the way. although at certain times of the month I still was a control freak made myself as attractive as possible to get his attention! ;)

Lost only two fingernails so far. Work so crazy busy I have not had time to think. Day off tomorrow so may be back on the fingernails.

My new rocket seedlings popped up today. I love my vege patch. Happiness! :)

Chocolate I'm back at work after 2 weeks off today and have been really miserable about it for days, then this morning I realised I have had no spots and I have grown all 10 fingernails, but I have now bitten off 5 of them I'm positive it's the stress of work, I would rather slit my wrists than be here tbh Have booked my next blood test for this Friday, last one was 'normal', don't know if that's good or bad seeing as I'll have to have the more invasive tests and if they find nothing's wrong then there's nothing they can do.

I'm supposed to be going to Horse of the Year Show on saturday with the whole yard but no-one booked a mini bus so we're all supposed to be driving, but everyone else is sharing between two cars but me and DH haven't been considered so while they're paying half the petrol, we're expected to pay the full whack, so I'm considering cancelling I'm very at them and to be considering not going but it's such a lot of money we just don't have it.

so Josie, looks like you and I working away while the other jsers on breaktime. no more time off until Xmas when we head to the uk for some winter weather.

glad the first round of bloods were normal don't stress too much about further testing. After the last epic attempt at pregnancy I'm getting used to leaving dignity at the door and picking it up again on the way out. Getting quite good at ditching the underdaks and jumping up on the examination table. Every blood test, scan or up the duff inspection is one step closer to a solution.

now in regards to this horse show business...no chance they can shuffle the car sharing around? personally I'd be inclined to push the envelope on that a bit. sounds a tad unfair. does a three way car split work?

feeling a tad homesick this week, missing some of my besties back in Australia. :( not home again until probably march or July next year. I know some say $ does not buy happiness, but to be able to afford flights more often would be fantastic. need to suck it up and deal with it though, probably here another 4-6 years at least. at least I have medical insurance here, could not afford it at home, it comes with OHs contract now which is fantastic. At least all my numerous doc visits, scans and ops have been covered so far. :)

Hope you other JSers are having a lovely break with lots of loving.

Where do you live Chocolate? Why would you want UK winter weather? Do you not think having to have all of these tests makes you feel less romantic? Does your DP go with you or do you keep him away from them? There's no other spaces in the cars for sat unfortunately so either we fork out about £80 plus £60 for the tickets or we don't go and we save the money (which would be coming out of our baby fund)

In Singapore for a few years. Job opportunity came up for OH and we thought we'd give it a go. Although I had more trouble finding work, but now have 4 days a week. As much as I can dislike UK winter weather, I love putting on my jeans, knee high boots and a nice thick coat! Love exploring up snow covered mountains as well. The ice axe does not get much use in Singapore except for as a hammer to put pictures up!

Hubby has come to most appointments, but always sat at the head end! When I was admitted for an internal haemorrhage of the uterus, he missed the messy admission bit, I called him at work to go home and get me some hospital admission stuff. Glad he did not get to witness me being lifted out of a pool of my own blood on the examination table, with legs splayed after the doc checked what my cervix was doing! That would have to be the most undignified moment of my life. I'm assuming childbirth may be about the same. He stayed overnight in hospital with me, sleeping on the couch after I got out of the operating theatre, I think that's romantic!

Stuff the baby fund Josie, go for immediate fun and horse filled happiness! Once preggers you'll have nine months to save!

We're still going on saturday after some arguments and some compromises, gist of it is that we're car sharing now but DH has been added onto the other car's insurance so he can drive.

I know what you mean Chocolate about getting all wrapped up in your winter woolies, it can be quite nice. The wind has been pretty chilly today, there's a frost in the air already.

Week 1 of 2ww nearly over but not getting my hopes up yet again. Second blood test tomorrow, gotta wait and see what that says. I'm also going to see the doc (when I pluck up the courage to see the doc) because of my depression and anxiety again, it's getting worse again, not that they can do much about it as I don't want to go on medication but we'll see. I think I have social anxiety disorder, it would explain a lot about me and my life. Anyway, haven't got the courage to speak to them just yet so playing a waiting game for the moment.

Any sign of Nelly and Crow? Hope you are both ok?

Glad you are off for a weekend of horsey fun Josie, fantastic news! A great way to fill in the 2ww gap a bit more. Good luck in the blood test tomorrow too. Nudge, nudge, to go to the doc. Anxiety and depression best dealt with straight away and not all solutions involve medication. Be honest with the doc that you would like to try non medication avenues first. Also keep chatting to your horse, I swear by animal therapy!:)

No doubt crow and nelly are having a wonderful break, can't wait for the goss when they get back.

Second scan today, again half half......aaaarrrrrrggggggghhhhhh!
a) heartbeat detected

b) "bradychardia noted" :( In other words a shitty attempt at a heartbeat. Luckily the doc believes in the wait and see approach. I have the weekend to 'bed rest' with a follow up on Wednesday. By then the heartbeat will either be stronger or not there at all. As OH said, it may be limping along, but it's still alive. OH was trying to humor me on the way home by going " it's aliiiiive......it's aliiiiive....." horror movie style. I did crack a smile before getting grumpy at him again. Now known as "it" to avoid attachment issues in case of bad news. One of the twins had bradychardia and only survived another few days, so being realistic and not getting hopes up. :(

Tentative yippee Chocolate! Fingers crossed 'it' pulls through. Take it easy and keep us posted. (Men have no idea what to say to make us feel better and therefore turn to silly jokes ). Off for blood test in hr and a half, not looking forward to it but because the last time wasn't too bad I shouldn't feel as nervous this time round. And that should be the last one so yippee sort of And I've taken the rest of the afternoon off so yippee for fnishing work properly, and so has DH so we're hopefully going to get the garden finished

That should say yippee for finishing work early, not properly Brain a bit fuzzy

Just adding to the yippees. Yippee Australia beat South Africa (just). Yippee that bowl of chocolate ice-cream was really good. Yippee the couch is a lovely place to be on a Sunday afternoon. :)

Well, phoned the docs for my second set of blood results, they wouldn't tell me so I've got to go in on monday, which is good really as I've been needing to go for a while. Will let you know how it goes. Hope you're all ok?

Monday, jeez these doctor people like to make you wait. Hang in there Josie! I hope you had a fun, horsey weekend too :)

Hello to all the lucky holidaying jsers.

"It" is still alive..... after a nervous 15 minute wait after being told it wasn't big enough for my date but "it might be this machine, I hate this machine" and being moved to another ultrasound machine in another room. The new machine had more pleasing results. Not out of the woods yet but one step closer. We went out for dinner afterwards. :) Three weeks to go and we pass the miscarriage date of twin 2. I'd like to do a tentative dance of joy. Don't consider me a graduate just yet. Climbed the mountain, but don't quite have my top belay point anchored properly, so if I fall off it is a long way down. Please excuse me while I lace up my boots tightly and check my crampons are on correctly. Ice axe at the ready for emergency arrests.

ah, lovely.
I was just wondering if anyone would like to join "us" on the graduates thread.
It's getting lonely over there - it's Me and BamBam21 left now, cos Katie dropped her sprog this morning!

graduate thread here

Believe me nickel, we'd love to be joining you, we're trying! Just not happening, for me at least. I'm beginning to give up.

Fingers crossed for choc!

Anyway - apologies for being AWOL, had a lovely week off work and managed to get the lounge painted, and it's looking lovely! Also been doing loads of overtime at work, just so I can afford christmas.

I should have got a new laptop today - am getting a 'freebie' one, as the contract on the one I got for DD1 with a dongle is up for renewal, and seeing as my PC died, I thought I'd go for the upgrade and get a shiney new laptop! But I was at work, doing my poxy overtime shift when they tried to deliver it, and now I have to wait until Monday Ah well, at least I'm at home all day for that!!

How is everyone else?

:(

New shag-capes for everyone :(

new laptop sounds just as good as temporary measure though

Good to hear from you Nickel hope everything is going well. I'm off to docs on tomorrow to see if there's a reason I haven't followed you yet, fingers crossed it's not bad news, but at least if there's something wrong hopefully they can sort it, without having to do any more yukky tests. But then, if there's not something wrong, hormone-wise, then that's good too

Anyway, will fill you all in tomorrow