JSing viroids, on your marks, get set, shag!

[JosieSmith1]

The (updated)(again)(again)(again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you've had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended). (But it does work).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.
OV is ovulation - I'm allowed to forget what date I've OVd, feel free to join me on that one!

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

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Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Part 5 Graduates:
TakeThatLady - BFP
Vallinna - BFP
SingingMog - BFP
aDarkStarWithStrangeWays - BFP
Eskarina - BFP

Part 6 Graduate
Reality - BFP

Part 7 Graduates:
Katiepie - BFP
CaramelGirl - BFP
Nickelbabe - BFP
Panpie - BFP
Brightcopperkettles - BFP

Is everything okay dee?

Glad you are staying, Bam. I have such anxieties when it comes to how things I write might have been taken by other people as I'm such a coward when it comes to confrontation and would never knowingly offend someone who I know! Bah, I am a nutter. But you know that by now, I'm sure.

Erm. I appear to be pregnant. Fucking hell.

Oh dee that doesn't sound good . I second the plan. Pants and bollocks.

bam/babylann - should we leave you in peace . Only joking! babylann I can't remember if it was Katee, but someone did say that. but I can assure any up-duffers they are welcome to stay as long as they like, but also to move on whenever they feel ready, or jump back and forth between the 2 if they prefer . In any case, I was on the JS thread for so long that I still miss the viroids, so read that thread as much as this one .

Very tired today, feels like it's been a tough week. I was also symptom spotting, which is weird when I don't think I've ovulated yet .

Josie - where are you???? Everything ok? Drop in to say hi, we miss you! Janedoe, you too

Ahhhhhhh. Cross post Dee. don't have ......

congratu-fucking-milations .

You tease

Dee that's brilliant! I had thought ERTD had struck! Congratulations!!

Have a instead!

I had this sneaking suspicion that there was good news, that's why I didn't offer any sympathies! Congratulations!

Passes around the to all the non-pregnant folk. I will raise a glass to all you BFP owners. Or a few. It is Friday evening, after all.

Dee - congrats!!! Hope all goes smoothly for you over the next few weeks and months

BamBam - I think you're right about my levels. In my early BFP weeks, I did have a blood test and my GP suggested upping my dose from 150mcg to 175mcg. I've been taking 200mcg in the last few weeks and do feel much better on it. Hopefully that will help when it comes to ttc too!

Hello Nelly, Babylann, Caramel and anyone else lurking too!

Interesting chat about whether to keep posting on here once pg. I have to say that as a ttcer, I'm more than happy to hear about how our BFPers are doing and it kind of feels a bit like friends have disappeared. On the flip side though, once I got my BFP I stopped posting as it would all have been about how worried I was which seemed a bit insensitive when I was in such an envious position compared to all the ttcers! Maybe we just need to stop thinking about it so much and post where we feel "home" is.

I'm feeling rubbish today. I started bleeding again last night so maybe my body is still clearing out, hence the BFP on Wednesday. Just hope this does the trick now and I get that BFN soon!
I'm also feeling like I've got a cold coming - sore throat and snotty nose. I've taken a dose of vitamin C this evening so hoping that knocks it on the head!

Thank you. For the first time in my life i am absolutely petrified. I think the plan is not to think about it until we're past about twelve-fourteen weeks.

Well done babylann with your sixth sense. . Hope you enjoyed the .

SES I hope this is all over soon so you can move forward.

Morning viroids

Hope you all have lovely weekends planned? Weather crap here so not sure what we'll be up to. Though it started well as we had morning sex, hurrah. Fell asleep before OH came to bed last night but as I'm merely shagging, as opposed to timed shagging, that's all good.

I probably better get my lazy arse in gear and get some stuff done now though.

Bah well. I have got a cold now. I think I caught it from Bam's son or SES. Or DD and DP who have both been snotty and miserable for the past few days. Weird for me to catch it last though - usually I get ill first and for the longest! Maybe it's a sign that I'm finally starting to get 100% healthy again.

Good to hear you're prepared for your life of parenting, Nelly!

According to my period tracker app, today is the start of my fertile window. Weird though, because I have painful boobs and the mittelschmertz (sp?), but apparently don't ovulate for like 4 days or something. Maybe it's wrong. It's funny though, I never used to get "ovulation signs" before I was pregnant. Or maybe I just never paid attention.

babylann I too have the app. I am dense though, as only just realised you can change the ovulation date, if you happen to know when it is. Otherwise it just works out the average cycle length then deducts 14 days for OV. As you've had quite wonky periods recently (sorry! ) perhaps it has the average length a bit long? I also read just yesterday that you can experience mittelschmutsit at different points. So some viroids feel the egg warming up, and others feel it pop out. I say, have sex anyway . More than once, perhaps . Hope the cold fizzles out soon though.

Oh and as for being prepared for parenting - well I'm already used to the lifetime commitment, being permanently skint, constantly filthy, tantrums, outgrowing of shoes on a regular basis (every 5 bloody weeks for a horse!!); not to mention my horses' poos are the size of a small car. I have the "don't mess with me" stare already perfected, my first aid skills are rather advanced, and I can wrestle half a ton of wilfull beast into submission. A car seat has nothing on hitching up and towing (and reversing!) my trailer. Nappy changes, supermarket tantrums and a spot of childbirth will be a breeze .

Weather was crap today so joined all the other uninspired shoppers at our local designer outlet. Walked past Mamas and Papas with a resolute stare, eyes FRONT. I will not go in, I will not go in.....though I did go into Gap and both OH and I coo'd a little at the teeny stuff :(.

Think I mentioned that one of our friends had a baby about 4 weeks ago? Well they are keeping OH broody and keen, because they are getting out and about doing stuff, today they both went moutain biking at a local forest, taking it in turns to look after the bub. I am so pleased as a lot of our friends became hermits after having kids, so he is feeling happier that it does seem possible to still have an active fun life - the kids just come too :)

PS - Babylann if you have a smartphone, do you have the words with friends app? It's online scrabble if you don't? Anonymous other than your username, so if you fancy a game, send me a PM and I'll send you my "game name"! Or anyo

Ahh - stupid buttons! That should have said "anyone else"

I shall download it now and then PM you! I was looking for the MN app earlier but apparently it couldn't be found. Isn't there an Android version yet?

You definitely sound more prepared for parenting than I was! I'd spent a good 3-4 years prior to getting pregnant in a state of hedonistic bliss, drinking, smoking, partying, everything people younger than 21 are famous for and more. I thought, "How hard can it be?"

I think the hardest part is how it strips away your freedom. You can't just go out whenever you feel like it anymore, because your baby is asleep so you at least have to wait until she's awake, and then you have to make sure she's changed and fed before you plonk her into her pushchair, and then you have to find a way of transporting her to wherever it is and it's so ridiculously embarrassing if she starts crying while you're out and you can't calm her down. People look at you like "what the hell is wrong with your baby?" and the truth is you don't know, because she doesn't usually scream this loud when you're at home and better prepared to handle it.

And eeeeveryone says they'll help out, "just call if you ever need anything!" and "I'm always there if you need a babysitter!" but the second she's born, boom, they all seem to disappear off the face of the planet and if you do ring them they happily delight in what fun baby-free activity they are doing while you're sitting at home, grumbling to yourself about your stretch marks and your leaky boobies and how your baby doesn't even appreciate it and only pays any attention to you when she's hungry.

Bitter? Me?!

I've forgotten why do I want to do this again!

Is it the free Zynga one?

Yes that's the one :)

Sorry I lead you into a bitter-memories rant . You're still young though, no wonder it felt like quite a change! I gave up going out a long time ago . Don't worry I do know it's not quite the same, but most of the people I was friends with were hopelessly selfish and disorganised until they had kids, whereas I guess I've had to put something else before me since I was 10. Anyway, I have NO idea why this topic has suddenly become so important to me .

All irrelevant, anyway, as I'm probably just about on the 2ww now, and no reason why this one should end any differently to all the others. Grrr....

Are you the person who just requested a game with me or is that someone else? Because if it is you, I look terrible at this game... I've had no luck with my letters :(

Keep your hopes up! You never know when it'll be your month

Nope not me? You can also request random games with strangers so maybe that was it?

Helloooooo viroids, any news from anyone? T'is very quiet! Are you all off being nice to your Dads/OH's? (whoops haven't called mine today!)

I'm having a Meh day. Not sure what spawned it and I won't bore you with details. I am just mumping my gums and need to kick my own arse and get on with stuff. Grrrr.

OH away doing a mad cycle today, I hope he isn't too tired tonight as still seem to be having mittle-whatsits and pant snot . Just how long does this egg need FFS? Anyway, we need would love to have procreation wild sex later so he better not be too tired .

to everyone and tosses sticky substances at Dee and Bambam :)

Hello!

Nelly you have awoken a demon in me. I should probably have said how easily addicted I get to just about anything. I've maxed out the amount of games I can play at one time! I've already beaten 2 people . And I bet I'm going to be making Scrabble words in my head all night when I go to bed.

Feel free to "bore" us with details of what has made you feel meh. :)

Just spent the last hour or so uploading videos of DD to youtube and made a secret Facebook group for my family so that I can share them without posting them on the walls of all 300 of my friends (most of whom I haven't seen since high school).

Otherwise, I'm quite disappointed with myself for not treating DP to a bit more attention today. :( After not really spoiling him on his birthday on Thursday either (apart from the 2 shags and a meal out at a Chinese buffet restaurant), I feel a bit rotten. :(

A high scoring demon, no less! Told you . I'll probably drive you mental as I take ages deciding what to play. I'm also bad for playing at bedtime, so tell me if that annoys you/wakes you up and I'll change my approach .

The Meh is mostly in my head. I think it's the weather. Ficking rain. There's been no drought here....

I've just bored myself even more by doing the ironing, and watched 2 episodes of OBEM as my guilty pleasure. Though, I'm not actually sure I enjoyed it much. I sort of want to watch it to prepare myself for what labour is actually like, but the episodes I just watched were firstly all preemies in the neo-natal ward, and then 2 emergency sections. Which of course could all happen, but didn't help dispel the Meh.

God I am being a right miserable cow just now! Hormones?

I love OBEM too. I refused to watch it when I was pregnant because I was scared of seeing something that would make me too nervous, and have only started watching it since. It makes me cry (proper tears streaming, sobbing) every single time a baby is born, partly with happiness, partly with jealousy but also with quite a bit of sadness. I was so overwhelmed with my labour I can't even remember it very well. And my time in hospital afterwards was so traumatic I had to go for counselling. I watch other women's birth on that show and I guess it brings back memories but still can't stop myself from watching it!

Don't worry about playing at bed time! I get notifications, but they're silent ones - just a little pop up in the corner of my screen which reads "It's your turn - open to play!"

Feel free to be a miserable cow all you like! We all have meh days. :)

Oh no, now I'm worried that I have no heart . I watched 2 episodes and only got a tiny bit emotional at a bit where the one of the mums realised her tiny preemie might die (it didn't :) ). The other alternative was to put on the only DVD I could find, which was Bambi. It's very wrong, I fear, that it would REALLY have made me sob....

Sorry to hear your labour/afterwards was so traumatic though :(. I live in a bit of a La La Land where I believe you just sneeze them out and go home 2 hours later with a skip in your step. No idea why I think this, as I am normally otherwise a sane, educated, realistic person . Although my mother doesn't help, as she brags about all 3 births being uber-short; and that she was sitting cross-legged on the bed not long after the birth of my sister (her first). (She is a bit prone to TMI, I really could have done without the recollection she shared with me a while ago, about when my brother was conceived .)

Anyway preparing for labour is rather pointless, given my current lack of up-duffdness . Perhaps I should watch some porn instead . Or Living and Growing - cos I seem to recall that proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that getting pregnant was easy, nay inevitable, if you so much as breathed near a boy.

It's funny really, how sane, educated, realistic people can be so daft sometimes. Take me, for example, every now and then I catch myself wondering whether there's any tiny chance DD might not be DP's baby. I was never unfaithful! I start thinking, "Hmm... but what if the person who stayed in my dorm room at the university course before me left a tiny bit of their sperm on the seat?" or "what if while I was asleep, one of the boys from my hall crept into my room and had sex with me and somehow I didn't wake up?" Because those two options are apparently equally probable as me and DP having a lot of crazy sex and obviously at some point, some of his sperm escaping the condom and falling in love with one of my eggs.

I also thought labour would be fast and easy. DP was looking forward to the drama day where he'd run out of work in a mad rush to the hospital. I actually rang him up and said, "Yep, I'm definitely having contractions. Don't come home from work though. I don't think it's gonna happen any time soon." Not only did he get to finish his work day, but technically he could have gone in for the next 2 days as well. We went to Burger King, went for a casual stroll to try and get things moving a bit faster (not fun with SPD), spent the entire night playing a stupid game on the wii to distract myself from the 5 minutely pain. 3 fecking days I was having contractions and I only ever got to 4cm dilated! Such an amazing time though, labour is, even if it's painful. Everyone is crowding around you, making sure you're okay, my mum was monitoring my contractions in a notebook and every time I had one she'd say "How painful is that one?" and I'd have to give it a mark out of 10. It was by the time I got to about 13 on day 2 that I started crying and it started going downhill!

I think you should watch porn. I don't know what kind of thing you enjoy, but I hear there's a great video out there called 2 Girls, 1 Cup... (I'm sure you haven't been living on the moon for the last few years, but if you have, really don't go and look for that movie...)