Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 2

[Curlylox]

woohoo over here

oooo, lovely fresh blood...! Hippy'll be delighted, new peeps to laugh at her hilarious and totally original jokes .

So I'll kick off with one. New posters on the 40+ thread are like buses, you wait ages for one and THREE come along at once... . Welcome lolfactor, jenbe and lambskin. Look forward to hearing more from you and more of your personal details that you currently have no intention of sharing but within a week or two you'll have shed all inhibitions.

lolfactor you must be feeling totally freaked!! We can hold your hand all you like, I have all crossed that all works out for you. Chant Cherie Blair, Cherie Blair in moments of self-doubt.

Anyway am dashing off to finish chores - I'll pop back later if I get all done.

Big squeeze for all x

It's so good to hear you've all managed to keep a sense of humour - thanks for making me laugh! I'm absolutely sure that's what's been different this month. I got the f**kits; I drank (finally - YES!), laughed a lot, and almost accepted that it wasn't going to 'be'. And maybe it won't be. But it definitely seems to be helping at the moment.

I had kids really young - started at 22. I've got 2 boys (22 and 18) and dd of 14. Then I got divorced, and met someone 6 years younger than me. The good news is, he has a lovely 4 year-old. The bad news is, he's been known to cry himself to sleep at the thought of not having another. Which is so sad. And not helpful when you're 42-44. I just feel I've been catapulted into menopause territory when I thought I had years left.

Your posts have kept me sane. Truly! That, and my Cherie poster. Your stories?

Hi Lambskin welcome .Whats "AS" ? XX

Hi Jenbe again , welcome XXX

Get to it Diege go girl!!!! You know you want to!!!!!

Jolls you sound better....good.

Hello and nice to meet newbies!
Yes it is me - gumblossom- with a new name and renewed hope.

Too cut a long story short, DH and I had it out the other night, a very long conversation, and it was revealed that he is so worried that I might have another miscarriage and be even more devastated, so is very reluctant. Bless him - he just cares so much about me. I told him I know it might happen again, but I would rather give it a go, than not.I just have to.

So SWI has been at Gum's house and I think today is O day, so we'd better give it another go. Even if he changes his mind again, we've had sex at the fertile time, so I'm in the running for this month. It's such a relief.

It doesn't erase my sadness about losing our LO, but at least I feel "hopeful", which is better than feeling hopeless.

Curly, I'm sorry you are feeling down, I hope you can get some help. I had PND with my first and I do know how dark things can be. My midwife suggested up to 10 capsules of fish oil a day (1000mg each) for depression.Apparently it works as well as antidepressants.

Will catch up again later.Have a and a on me!

gum so glad your back - whoop whoop!

jolls that was my joke about the buses

diege good to see you again, matey.

Hello to all new people - i'm sure you'll be telling us all intimate details about your sex lives real soon

Well i've been out tonight and had so am now home and having a .

CD7 for me but have started SWI already - I am gonna try very hard this month. We should get loads of BFP's this month - thanks to the SMEP.

lolfactor congrats on the BFP - 1 day at a time is the only way to approach early pregnancy - all the very best, my dear .

Morning!

Gum lovely to see you back, with your renewed hope.

Welcome to the newbies, hopefully reading your posts will encourage other lurkers to show themselves!! Lolfactor Congratulations to you

Curly so sorry you are feeling low. Have you thought about natural remedies? Exercise and diet can help aswell as offloading and not carrying all your thoughts yourself. It's horrible when you know you could just burst into tears at any given moment. We've all done it though, and in front of people we'd rather not!

Hippy I havn't forgotton your message, off to do your reply now! I feel like Kirsty, just need 'my phil' to boss around! So exciting and it's not even me moving!

Big wave to everyone and a shorter post from me this morning. I'm on CD3 and really tired at the moment. I've started eating crap again the last few days, so only myself to blame. Busy day today and off to the gym to get rid of some guilt.

Happy Sunday everybody

Hi there. Sorry BB I did a very flippant post when i got in last night and realised that I hadn't mentioned your worries about Ashermans at all. I'm sorry to hear you think that might be your problem. I had only briefly heard of it before but have been having a quick look now. I think you need to be very well prepared for your appointment with lots of info printed off and go there determined not to be fobbed off. When I first had the coil removed and my LP was short I went to the docs about Luteal Phase Defect and even my lovely GP had never heard of it. BUT because I had printed everything off she took the time to read it all. Be strong when you go, matey. remember we are mature sensible women (we just don't always act that way ). All the best.

Likewise curly I didn't mention your depression last night either, sorry. It's very difficult to know sometimes where feeling very down ends and depression begins. MY DH has suffered from depression on and off throughout our relationship so I can spot HIS a mile off. You've had a tough time these last couple of years, an MC, wanting more children and most recently you thought you might be preggers and then had all that disappointment. As women we are bloody martyrs to our hormones. (when my AF came this time I wasn't even upset about not being pregnant, I was very excited about the move and was feeling great - then AF arrived and along with that came a progesterone drop and I felt myself deflate and I knew it was a purely chemically induces sadness cos there was no other reason to be so flat).

I think you need to find a sympathetic doctor and have a good chat (and cry) with her and see what she thinks. I agree with the others that it would be good if you could find a natural way of dealing with it rather than prescribed meds. Thinking of you my little curly top. X

Morning and thank you all for your concern and reassurance. I do feel a little brighter as had a chat with my dsil, I find it easier to talk to someone who's experienced depression themselves. Depression as well as miscarriages tend to be topics no one wants to talk about in rl Unfortunately my dh doesn't know how to help, not his fault but I think that's why I tend to get quite angry with him which results in me shutting him out. Which in turn doesn't help with smep . When I had posted my message about feeling down I started to panic about the response I would get, silly I know as you're all lovely. The bizarre thing is I'm happy to listen, to be there, be sympathetic etc for everyone and anyone but find it very difficult for someone else to do the same for me. Got to be strong, get on with it, don't complain outlook etc etc which does me no favours at all. I have got an appointment to see my Dr this week due to ttc and was wondering whether I should mention how I feel but don't want a prescription for it. The thing is when I'm feeling low, I don't want to eat or do exercise although I did go to my one to one pilates class, reluctantly.
Gum lovely to hear from you, you mentioned 1000mg fish oils will this not affect ttc? By the way I already take 1 x 1100mg fish oil daily. Hello and welcome Jenbe the same question to you re the 5HTP, is it ok to take whilst ttc?
Hello and welcome to Lambskin and Lolfactor whispers congratulations and fingers crossed for an uneventful 9 months.
How are you feeling Jolls, better I hope? Panashe be kind to yourself took me a while to get over my mc, and yes it was a natural mc. Nicole you go girl, I'm pretty sure you'll feel better after your gym session.
A huge squeeze to my lovelies Hippy Lou Diege BB Jolls and Much and Italian. By the way where are much and Italian??? Sorry if I have forgotten anyone.

Curly you sound a bit brighter.Good

Much where are you??? Still swi'ng!!!!! [not swinging but SWI ng!!!]

Wonder if Italian is swi also???

Hi to everyone hope all are well.

Nicole hope you "enjoyed" the gym.You ve done well i ve not been since monday.Couldn 't be bothered.

Good news here; I ve got a smiley face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEH1!!!

Cd11 so to continue on ems plan back to it tonight,Mon and Tuesday.Wed off then Thursday.Trying not to be desperate about wanting to be pg again asap and know it's only 4 months since Georgie but its all i m bothered about ,all i want.I want it so much.Think returning to the ward on Thurs has upset me again.It's lovely to see all the midwives again but i m sick of doing things to "commerate" Georgie instead of having her here with us alive and kicking. xxxx

Oh forgot to say : Welcome back Gum ....Lovely to "see" you again.XXXXX Good luck with swi.Glad you got stuff sorted with your dh.

Evening all.

Thank you for your welcome!
Louisesh AS is Aspergers Syndrome, a very high functioning form of autism. Ds2 is 6 and as much as I would love a little brother or sister for him I do worry as he has terrible meltdowns that can seemingly come out of nowhere, he struggles with empathy and I am currently fighting so hard to get him help at school and to get a dx that I can't believe I'm even considering, never mind actively trying, for a new LO!

As to giving out tmi I'm the queen of that, especially after a couple of drinks.

I think I'm CD20 and I don't hold out high hopes for this month. We were quite impressive there for the first week but somehow life gets in the way when it counts and we haven't had swi since. Dh has just asked if he should drink tonight....things could be looking up!

Will post in a less self obsessed way next time.

Btw very happy to see Gum back! and I'm glad I'm not the only newbie on the block, much less scary!

Morning Lovelies. It's Valentine's day here, so Mwah, mwah, kiss, kiss, hug, hug for everyone. I don't usually give a damn about Valentine's, but today I'm making a big effort. I'll make a really yummy dinner, with dessert and have bought a very nice bottle of wine for DH. Hopefully will get him in the mood.I think today might be O day, I got a + OPK yesterday, but temp didn't go up yet, so I'm thinking today.

Curly, I don't think the fish Oil will do you any harm at all with TTC. In fact it is probably really good for it. I guess you could start with maybe 5 capsules, spread out over the day? I usually take two with dinner. I find they have really helped with AF cramps.I think the acupuncture also helps with that. I used to have to take meds for the pain, but since taking the oil and having acupuncture I haven't had any trouble with cramps.

Have you thought about acupuncture? I'm sure that it could help with depression too, and is great for fertility.

Louise, I can see how excited you are about the smiley face! I'm sure all your efforts will pay off and you'll get pregnant soon. I actually think we all will, that although it may take longer for the golden egg, we'll get there eventually. Of course I feel optimistic right now, give me a couple of weeks and we'll see how I am then!

Jolls, how are you doing?
Deige, how much longer with the marking?
Hippy, your move to IOW is exciting.
Italian, what's going on?

Sorry not to give personals to everyone, I just can't keep up!

I'm back to work today, but it isn't like a real job. I only do two hours of tutoring. It is a great job because my DH can mind Charlie as it is after school hours and he's a teacher. I also get paid rather well for a cruisy job with hardly any preparation and no marking at all!

Have a lovely Valentine's day - hope it is filled with L-O-V-E.[pumping heart emoticon]

Hi all

Curly so sorry things are not going well but hope you will get help in real life as well as support here. Just my opinion but if you are concerned it is depression please do see you GP for a chat, they can and should recommend some really good help.

Panashe I am 45 and waiting for a donor egg. I?ve got a six year old daughter, who is great, but have been struggling for last 5 years to give her a sib. This really is our last go!

Oh Jolls Caramel MC sounds like a candy bar!!

lolfactor and Lambskin and jenbe, welcome.

hopefulgum welcome back.

Hippy, Diege, nicole333 and all the usual crew, greetings.

BB sorry I did not comment on the Asherman?s before, I do not know much about it but I have read a bit now. I hope you will get the appropriate help. Has it been diagnosed and have you been told how severe it is or is it not yet diagnosed? Sorry if this sounds nosy and I have not followed everyone?s comments really closely.

There is so much info here and I am sure I have missed stuff.

WOW I fancy a off to put the kettle on and then will update you on me!

Hi all in case you are interested I went to see my consultant last week. The key factors seem to be that my thyroid, although within reasonably safe margins, is not great for trying to get pregnant. The hormone which is driving the thyroid, TSH, was a bit high. So for TSH 5 is normal, but for someone trying to conceive it should be 2, apparently. So anyway my TSH was a bit high, at about 6. After taking the tablets for about a month it was down to about 4. Now after a further two weeks it?s down to 3. So my consultant has said to increase the dose a bit and he will write to my GP.

Also my consultant says that I have had most of the level one tests and he did not feel I needed the level 2 tests. Level 2 tests cost over a £1,000 so I must admit I was not looking forward to getting them. Consultant thinks that I may have a small indicator of a clotting factor problem, which can affect the embryo's ability to implant. So he has said he will write heparin and aspirin into the protocol for our final lot of treatment and also a low dose of steroids.

So I think we are fully covered for pretty much any eventuality. I do now feel very positive.

Italian - that's great news that the consultant could give you a plan. I hope your levels keep dropping and it all works out with the donor egg. Of course it would be great if you got a BFP without it too!

I have wondered about taking aspirin. Is anyone else doing it? Is it something that occurs as we get older (the clotting problem) and would it cause miscarriage early in the pregnancy or later? Of course I'm worried about miscarrying again and wonder if I should include aspirin and progesterone cream as a preventative, but I do wonder if I should just see what happens.Is the clotting thing very common?

I guess I should google it and see what I can find out!

Italian, do you still hear from Rowing on another thread? I miss her, so I might have to see if I can find her. I wondered whether she has got pregnant yet?

Well, better go,, just popped on for a moment.

I also post on assisted conception and Rowing is there. I posted last night so you should be able to find it. As far as I know there is no exciting news about rowing.

Sorry, I also meant, thanks HopefulGum.

"Anticoagulants: If a blood disorder is contributing to recurrent miscarriage, baby aspirin and heparin treatment can help to thin the blood, to prevent it from clotting."

www.sharedjourney.com/miscarriage/recurrent.html here I have NOT read the whole page. You need to see the doctor to ask her/him as there are blood tests they can do to see if you have any factor. I would not try and take any drugs without knowing you do need them because thinning the blood can be dangerous I believe and possibly if you do not need it it may have the opposite effect, may make it harder to get pregnant. I don't know.

Gum i take 75mg aspirin daily from 7 weeks onwards when proven a viable pregnancy.All my blood tests were nad but my consultant with Georgie thought i should take it for a "placebo" effect and i was quite happy to.I ll be on it next time also.You re quite right we WILL get pg[determined face!!!!]

Italian all sounds quite promising..Glad you feel better.It helps to have a plan!!! I m a planner , by default,as my counseller calls me!!!!

Arh...Lambskin Aspergers...I get it now!!!!DOH!!! I read a really good book on Aspergers think it was "the curious tale of a dog" or something like that..Have you read it? What did you think?

More swi last night.,then tonight.Think i ll spoil Ant tonight as he's been a godsend for me recently.Then back to it!!!!!

Hey All

Been really ill since Thursday (chest infection) and still feel rubbish today soooo been in my bed ......anyway have only managed a quick browse thru....
ITALIAN That's great news it makes such a difference when you have somebody (medically) on your side and caring for you it takes some of the worry away

Ahh GUM glad your back here....

CURLY Sorry bout feeling down (it is the hormones I guess) I am like it every month.....

Hello to all newbies and wish you all the world of luck...

Love to all the crew but I am feeling to crappo to name check today......hopefully I am feeling more chipper soon and then I will catch up.......

Oh yeah and 10dpo today and BFN so guess I'm out this month on to the monitered cycle I spose ????

xxxx

And there they are.... much you poor thing soory you're not well, are you on antibiotics? Italian what positive news, I know this is just the beginning but what a great start - I'm very pleased for you. Nothing much to report here, only that I'm at work having lunch at my desk because I STILL have a shed load to get through. Also I gave myself a kick into gear after getting the positive line on the opk and got SWI last night Following lou's lead.....it's tonight again isn't lou well it is Valentine's after all
Isn't someone up for testing soon???

Hi all
Well I tested this morning CD26. BFN, and not even a hint of a shadow of a flicker of a line... it just looked like the whitest of white circles.

The only reason I tested was I wanted some excitement I had no spotting yesterday (and in fact none today either yet), which is very unusual as once I start pre-period yukkiness it continues until it turns into period, even if it takes 4 days to get going it's always there IYSWIM?

But looking back at previous BFPs it's unlikely I'd get a line until Friday at the earliest. So if I'm still in the game I'll test on Friday. Had a strange metallic taste yesterday but that could just as easily be the aftermath of horrid throat. Haven't really had any other symptoms that I can think of, so suspect it's Mother Nature playing another of her blimmin' hilarious jokes!

How's everyone else?

x

You feeling better jolls?

much better thanks Curly, throat and headache and yukkiness all gone. Not cried today! Did cry yesterday though but that was because my lovely DSil told me she's going to run her next marathon for The Miscarriage Association for me. I was so touched.

DS also back to normal thank god. Been in the park most of the afternoon, lovely and sunny on the coast today.

Just a quick one before a cook 2 teas (one for the kids and a 'romantic' one for me and dh).

Louisesh - Yes! I read that before ds was born and had totally forgotten about it, might be a good one to revisit.

Been having a particularly crappy time so can completely sympathise with Curlylox some days are harder to get through than others, but I think you may be surprised at how many people are willing to listen and talk about depression in rl as well as mn.

Happy Valentines Day everyone and I hope everyone gets at least a snog and maybe even a shag (wi obviously)

That's good Jolls . I don't think you had to swi anyway did you? Not that that's much consolation when you're feeling rotton (who was it on here who had to dtd while feverishly ill?)
I am sadly falling behind with my work, despite burning the candle at both ends and flouting the rules by marking in public places I will have to big it up and ring for an extension tomorrow, and just ignore the sighs on the other end of the phone.Very quickly (ds and dh due back any min) great to hear from you Italian, and sounding so positive too.
Hi to everyone - will name check when I have more time . A hint of ewm today, so will swi, possibly the start of the EMS shag-fest if the opk gets darker!