Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 2

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woohoo over here

Oh Hello, Fifi, long time no see...I used to be called angifi, I remember you from the older 40's thread. You are an inspiration. Hoping I'll follow soon.

Beatie sorry about the BFN, but it's still early isn't it?

Hello,Penashe, so sorry about you mc. It's awful. I hope you can get your BFP and sticky bean soon.

Louise, I actually had a look on ebay for a cbfm and thought, "Oh what the heck, I'll buy it!", so I've ordered it from the UK - it was the best deal I could find, I got the monitor and 20 sticks for 71 pounds, but there were cheaper ones on Amazon - but they wouldn't post out to Oz.I bought it from HomeHealthuk, and also ordered extra sticks and digital pregnancy tests (which are really pricey in Oz). Of course I won't even have to unwrap the cbfm, because February is my month too!

Not sure though, about my DH. Sometimes wish I could just order in some donor sperm. I spoke to him on the phone before he came home from work and he said he'd cook dinner, to which I replied, "You cook and you'll get lucky", and his reply: "Should I pick up some condoms then?". I would have like to reach down the phone and strangle him. I remained calm, and said,"why would you do that", and his response was, "yes, it might ruin the romance I suppose". YOU SUPPOSE????

Then when it came to it, afterwards he said, I was going to pull out, but couldn't manage it. I felt so sad, so just lay there in the dark biting back tears. I feel like I might have misunderstood him, or maybe he thinks I won't be devastated if we don't ttc. I just can't talk to him about it at the moment cos I'm feeling so confused. And, honestly, I just want to put my head in the sand and keep SWI whether he likes it or not.

Obviously there's a communication breakdown, and with ovulation coming up, I might have to sort it out. F*&k it!

God, I wish we were on the same page. It is hard enough...sigh

That's right jolls I think we both happened along at about the same time and fifi was on there then. I see what the doctor means about if you're oving and your period are regular what did you expect - but once we get over 40 we tend to assume it wont happen rather than it will. Good for you fifi. I am gonna come back next year to gee up all the new people and tell them about the baby I had at 45

jolls ???? are you suggesting I am a hypocondriach? Bloody cheek, Mrs! By the way panache can you just ask your partner why my neck keeps clicking?

I think it's CD1 today. still a bit spotty rather than flowy - my Af never comes in with a bang - more of a whimper!

sorry gum crossed posts with you but didn't realise.

I DO NOT blame you for wanting to strangle your DH down the phone - I would too. God, you really are going through the mill at the moment. Do you think he was serious about the condoms. I think I'd have said, well you can bring 'em home but you wont be using 'em on me!!!

I wish I could say something helpful and clever but it seems like you are both at such different places. I understand you not wanting to 'trick' him into another baby but i think you are well within your rights to refuse to use condoms and if he still agrees to sex then he knows what he's getting into.

He thought about pulling out but didn't - so he's not THAT against TTCing. Thinking of you, lovie. X

hello gumblossom thanks for your kind words. Don't know what your situation is with your DH but I know lying in bed with your OH, biting back tears is a lonely place to be :( I could have talked all night to my dp about mc, but he was exhausted after 12 hour shift and as he fell asleep I lay there in tears.

Trying to decide whether to start ttc when bleeding stops or wait until after af. Have never used OPK and don't really want to but ask me again in 3 months. It took us 4 cycles to conceive last time.

hippy clicking neck cured by lots of SWI
I smiled when I read what you said about the 20 year olds,I wonder that if (WHEN)I have a baby am sure if I am out with my oldest dd people would think it hers !

morning all
panashe, that's reminded me, apparently when I was a baby, my 18 year old bro and 15 year old sis used to take me out and people would assume I was their child. And often my dad would be mistaken for my grandad (he was 45 when I was born). And I remember my mum telling me that the only reason she dyed her hair was for me, so that I didn't feel she was the oldest mum at the school gate (she probably was, but it didn't bother me in the slightest! I remember feeling it was cool I had proper grown up siblings!!)

Am still under house arrest with DS who is still poorly so no nursery for him break for me today. Thank the lord for Thomas DVDs...

And the winner of the Jollstersqueeze(TM) for Friday is..... Gum xx

My hair is in desperate need of dying and stupid but felt really conscious of it yesterday at epu.

Hope you got some sleep last night Sameold and that your DS is on the mend soon, my youngest is 12 and Thomas is a distant memory...

jolls I want one of those trademark hugs ... please???

I have been scraping paint off of an old metal door - don't ask! It has well and truelly set my teeth on edge. (and my neck hurts now )

Have just spotted this . How wonderful darlings.

panache sorry to hear you were in tears last night as well. But I think you need to grieve after a loss and acknowledge what you've missed out on.

re: your decision about when to ttc again - I waited a month after an EPRC but when i had a complete natural MC I didn't wait. Like you, I'd had a scan to confirm all gone and they said it was just the same as being at CD1. Quite sad really how quickly it's all forgotten by the body (but good in a way - IYSWIM )

jolls hope little jolly is better soon. My youngest is nearly 8 so we haven't had a lot to do with Thomas the Tank engine for a while here either.

Morning hippy just on way out, but what did they say was CD1 ? The first day of bleeding with mc ?

What i meant really was it was like being back to the start. When i went for my scan I had finished bleeding and they said I had a thin lining like you would have when your period has just finished. If you are wondering when you will ov - I would say it will be just a bit later than normal. It takes a few days for the hormones to drop and for the whole cycle to start again. I think after both my MC's I ov'd about 7 days later than normal. Sorry if i confused you there.

Fuc* just lost very long post!!!!!

Hi Italian you ok?

Hippy we are very nearly cycle buddies again!!!!

Jolls hope you make it out in to the world again soon?

Gum you re have to let me know how you get on with the cbfm.However, we wont need it after this month!!! Sorry about your DH.Its horrible when thy work against you.Quite often pre Georgie Ant was working against me i'd be doing all the pushing.But now a whole different approach he wants me pg asap.

Panashe i counted the first day of bleeding as cd1.Hope you re ok?

YEH!!!!!!!!!!!! Much fabulous. Just know Feb is a good month for "us" collectively.Get to it girl XXX

Diege marking ok?

BB not out of the running yet ? Big FX for you.XXX

Fifi lovely story XX

Last counselling session yesterday was very good.Then tea out with friends catching up on gossip.Just recieved a phone call from the delivery suite ward manager where I delivered Georgie.From Georgie's charity we raised £1500+ we wanted 2 items to be bought.A remembrance book and memory boxes.We were given a lovely memory box.There was no remembrance book on the ward, it was in the chapel and any entries were charged at £10.I totally disagree with this as i work for the trust and know the funds would not have been ring fenced.So the delivery suite staff asked for a remembrance book which is embossed with Georgie's name and date of birth.In our trust we have a magazine so they are to take photos and publish our story to hilight Georgie's plight and the excellant delivery suite staff.

Cd2 here awaiting delivery of my opks.Yeh come on.Feel very positive about this month.My odds are very good since having Georgie i ve ovulated once and concieved once!!![All be it a CP].Feb is the month

Doh!!! Forgot to say we are going in next THurs night to inscribe Georgie's book with my family.!!!!!!!!!!!!![that was the whole point of that story!!!!

How very fitting lou and what a wonderful way to mark the memory of Georgie.
CD2 for me too and have also made an appointment to see Dr next week, although I don't know what to say.....how silly is that!

hi all. gum i'm sorry for what you're going through with dh. fwiw I understand - my dh doesn't make such comments, but he makes his feelings know in other ways, like avoiding sex. Makes me very angry, particularly as he has said that he does want another baby. I think he is rather confused too.

Still no af for me, but some cramping which makes me think its on its way. I'll test again in the morning (because I'm obsessive) if RTD is not here. I hate this part, because even if you know in your rational part that you're not pg, there's still a little hope flickering away in there....

Oh well!

in other news, diet and shredding going well. I'll be a size 8 in no time! My new au pair (so she hasn't seen me shagging yet) is a german model. She puts me to shame with her exercising and her restraint in eating. I am twice the size of her I think. never mind, soon she'll be envying my abs!

louise how wonderful that you raised so much money - a remembrance book sounds a lovely idea. and that they charged £10 in the chapel. How outrageous.

jolls are you in the 2ww now or is there one more swi to get in? I'm very impressed with 4 anyway.

curly i'm the same - going back to see the dr (although I haven't made an appointment). i don't think there's anything to say really!

Have you had tests done yet?

No none BB - did see my Dr in November to tell her about my irregular cycle lengths, lengthy spotting etc. She did want to do an internal but had DD with me so she did say let's see how next month goes then come back.

Hello! Haven't really had a chance to catch up, but wanted to pop in and say the bistro is open so all orders welcome.
I'll be having another (chicken)roast dinner I think (have been dreaming abut roast pots all day) with extra gravy, and a rhubarb crumble with so much custard that you can't see what's under it. Oh and a pint glass of real coke (ie. sugar and caffeine). Maybe a twix and a real coffee to finish? Is that very piggish?

oooh you've made my mouth water diege I'm craving after a kebab (can't shake it since lou ordered one last week), a nice chicken shish with rice, salad, calamari with lemon wedges,stuffed olives, kefte with tzataiki, houmous and taramasalata. A bottle of Blossom Hill Zinfandel rose to wash it down with mmmmmm yummy.

Mmmm.....Curly not only are we cycle buddies but can we be "food buddies" too??? That food sounds delightful.Louise hides from Curly worrying curly will notice her stalkish ways!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arh BB know what you mean about just wanting af here already.You re posh you ve got an au pair!!!!!!! Whats shredding?

Glad you 2 are going to the drs? Are you starting with the basic 21 day blood tests or have you had those before?

HippY did i slip up by telling you i m a nurse!!!! Will i be recieving pictures of all your aliments soon???????

I'm happy to share my Greek feast with you lou. Not sure if I'll be able to temp as such a light sleeper, planned to start this morning but that wind howling/blowing disturbed my sleep. Will try to temp but will order some ovulation sticks too. I'm going to do the Sperm meets Egg plan that bb suggested. By the way lou hippy's latest ailment is her clickey neck, lord knows what else she'll be complaining about when she arrives

Oh got one more thing to add to my order....dolmades...yum

i've had the 3 and 21 day tests, and now follicle tracking too. i think the progesterone is a bit low (31) but not worryingly so. I need to go and talk to the dr though so I can understand it more.

Yes, to au pair lou but no to posh! It is the most affordable childcare for us to cover 3 schools, 1 nursery and 5 children with me and dh both working pretty much full time. I have a new au pair now, but the last one kept walking in on me and dh dtd! really embarrassing.

Can anyone illuminate me as to when Clomid is appropriate? (and what the side effects of it are...)

My needs for the bistro are simple really. A lovely thai curry (with a bit of pad thai on the side) and some nice prosecco. with a creme brulee for pudding please. Yum. and then a big comfy squishy chair to fall asleep in after.
oh and lou shredding is a fitness dvd - called the Shred. its only 20 minutes long, so very manageable, meant to have amazing results - you do it for 30 days - but I've only done 3 days so far.

Hmmm. Paella tonight I think. With a nice LARGE glass of my fave OBSB. And I think crumble (apple and blackberry) with absolute LASHINGS of cream. And then some proper fresh mint infusion afterwards (to pretend my body is a temple).

BB have heard about 30dayshred. I confess when I first saw it in thread titles, I thought it was something to do with the housekeeping threads, as in a life laundry 30 days to shred all the crap out of your house . Ref Clomid, only know one person who's used it, I know she wasn't that happy with it (can't remember offhand the symptoms) but surely scary clinic boss would have talked about that with you if she thought relevant in your case? I think it's about stimulating egg production isn't it?

Have pulled the drawbridge up. Didn't get to 5SWI, DS still unwell. He's never been poorly this long :(. I started to get a bit worrywart today and fret that he's really poorly. It doesn't help that with his language delay it's hard to get to how he's feeling, and what hurts etc.

So prob not pg this month, but Feb is not a great month for me anyway. Like so many of us, I had a MMC last Feb, and have a due date of 28/2 from my last MMC. And I'll age another year by the end of the month too! Arsicles.

Right off to tidy up, after I've checked DS still breathing.

oh no poor ds jolls - could it be swine flu do you think? i know a sore throat is one of the signs for it.

You are still in with a chance aren't you this month? i thought you did the deed a few times- so who knows a rogue sperm may have got through.

I haven't spoken to scary clinic boss yet since my results, but it seems that 30 is very borderline and could mean that doesn't always occur as well as the fact that there isn't enough progesterone to sustain a pregnancy if you do get pregnant. I will go and see her again though - seems silly not to get an expert interpretation of my results when I've paid for them. I am baulking at the bill though!

still cramping here, so bloody wish af would just hurry up and arrive!

Ohh BB I like the whole thai food thing - will have the same as BB please diege.

We might end up being cycle buddies if you turn out to not be preggers BB. My spotting has dwindled off and has not got past the brown stage yet - cue lots of "Maybe I'm preggers after-all." etc. But deep down I know I'm not really it's just AF taking her time to arrive properly.

Might test in the morning if AF doesn't kick in BUT am really not expecting anything apart from the one line to stop me being such an idiot. I totally get what you said BB once you think your not preggers you just want bloody AF to get on with it.

lou I have personal messaged you a photo of a rash I once had plus an odd lump and a full description of my clicky neck - please diagnose asap! (NOT REALLY!)

You have raised so much money in Georgie's name - well done to you and Ant. She will be so proud of her mummy and daddy.

jolls if you're worried about your DS could you get him to the out of hours doc tomorrow. There's no point in you worrying, sweetie. Big hugs to little jolly from Auntie Hippy. X ((()))