Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 2

[Curlylox]

woohoo over here

Hi Gum my periods always regular normally last about 3-4 days not normally any spotting just starts.I had accunpuncture last year might go back to it.Ye a reasonable flow,i had my 21 days bloods tested 2 years ago pre Georgie and it was fine but.....

Diege thanks XXXX I too feel equally angry and sad.

Hi ooohshiny Thanks X

Panashe af due between tomorrow and Wednesday.Know everyone says "don t test early" but we all know er all do..Glad i have as if this another CP and i hadn t have tested i would never have known i 'd got pg again. X

Thanks Jolls ((()))X

Thanks Much i will definatley ring my consultant about re-occuring CPs as can t keep having this.Interesting that gpss can prescribe progesterone but as mine are only general preactitioners didn t know anyhthing about stillbirth etc.....don t have much faith in them.X

Thanks Oneedge and welcome.I didn t get chance to say HI before.Your story is very interesting.I ve had a mmc at 12 weeks,1 mc at 8 weeks,2 cps prior to this and my dd was stillborn at 41 weeks in October 2010.

I had Georgie [Georgina] on 1oth October 2010 didn t ovulate to December pos tests very faint so knew it wouldn t last 4 days later i started bleeding.[I also had a CP in Dec 09 , the month before i concieved Georgie].Didn t ovulate January ,ovulated Feb 10 dpo BFP.This time lines were strong from 11dpothen stronger on 12 dpo then implantation bleeding on 15 dpo fainter line on 16 dpo fainter on 17 dpo.Normal cycles about 28-29 days.

So, in summary!!!, my last cp was at 31 days [4 days after af due].Its the faint lines worrying me as this is the way it went before and i know realistically that hcg must be dropping for the lines to be fainter.

I ve texted some of my work colleagues and i m popping in tomorrow am before clinics for a blood test to check my hcg levels but i know it ll be low.

Don t see how this can be a viable pg if lines are faint due to declining hcg levels.Would love it to work out like your son , the story, but just don t feel it will.Thanks XXX

Sorry its OnEdge not oneedge !!!!

Also excuse my spelling above its disgraceful!!!!

Lou You had some pink CM at around implantation time, is that a regular thing for you? Or can you pinpoint it to pregnancies for you?
What I'm trying to say is so far it's looking more positive than negative. I know the lines are faint, but don't give up hope. AF hasn't arrived yet and you know it aint over till the fat lady sings. Really feel for you.

Apologies for not logging in my tired brain who was asking about cheapo OPK's. I got a fantastic and cost effective idea on this thread that worked for me this month...Cheapo sticks from Amazon, then bought a CB smiley face. I used a normal OPK but I wasn't sure of the strength of the result, so then immediately used the CB smiler on the same sample. It gave me a smiley face. Now I know how to read the cheap ones correctly and won't be spending more than necessary on the smilers. Blimey, I'm knackered, did that make sense?

I have a question. I'm taking magnesium and read you need to take B6 with it. Do I take them both everyday all month? Or do I need to take them just from ovulation to AF or continue through AF? confused.com

Hello to everyone including our newbies we're really building up our thread now!

Just popped on to make sure all was Ok with lou and am to see that it might not be going well for you. I will keep everything crossed that you just didn't have a strong enough wee sample. Hugging you so (virtually) tight right now that I am suprised you can breath, my love.

nicole Hi there matey. XXX

Hi to the newbies.

Sorry not to type more - Dh is hovering and waiting to start a programme on catch up.

I've had more spotting and my boobs feel like my own so think I'm out for this month. 8 Months with no pregnancy - God, what a flippin' bore all this is.

House nearly ready to go on market - I'm moving to IOW jolls incase you wondered.

Hi Hippy thanks just about managing to breathe!!!!
Sounds like you re doing well with your house.I didn t realise you liked the IOW!!!!!
Sorry you feel af is on her way its a pile of shite.

Hi Nicole did understand what you re doing with your opks i think!!!! Thanks XXX no i ve never had any implantation pink cm before in any of my [oh lets see] 5 pregnancies..

Thanks all XXX

hi all,

lou I'm so sorry if this is a cp. it's shit

Welcome onEdge hope your stay here is short and sweet.

Hi oohshiny not sure I've said hello to you yet

As for me i think I'm about 7/8 dpo. Haven't tested yet, and am thinking that I won't actually. I've had a coouple of cps too and for me I'd prefer not to know I'm pg. But of course, whether the resolve holds out, while I've got a couple of FR tests sitting upstairs, who knows! Boobs do feel sore actually, but I think they do every month! have felt a bit pissed off and angry today for no reason and that could be pmt.

More occupied with possible move to London. Wondering whether its just to selfish to move just for my comfort. Anyway, dh has admitted he really hates his job out of London and thinks he needs to move jobs to london to be happy at all. But the whole school thing is a nightmare. I can't get any indications of school vacancies until I have an address and its too risky to move there not knowing about schools. have sent hundreds of emails though this weekend and hopefully will get some info soon. hippy is the school situation in IOW easier?

nicole I used cb smilies for the first time this month and really liked them! I've never had a + on a cheapie one. But if it works for you, you'll save loads of money!

Ok wondered as we've got a few new friends (coaxed in by me inviting random and possibly strange lovely peeps to join in our little chat ) whether we should just have a little rollcall? Useful as an aide memoir...:)

Jollster: 43 (a few days ago so still in mourning ), one DS 2y9m. TTC#2 since June 09, 3 MMC all around 11-13 weeks. Recurrent MC tests all clear, now TTC again, on month 5 (longest I've tried without a BFP).

Lots to read back on...
lou big squeeze - you know we're all willing things to be ok.
hippy can't believe you never told me you were moving... . Was in Herts today, thought of you.
Lovely newcomers, will read back and catch up. Glad to meet you x

Lou if things don't go your way, you must get the best advice you can about progesterone. My dr says it would be silly for me to take it and prolong a non-viable pregnancy. That said, I'll never know if it was my hormones or the baby which caused the cps. I'm hoping you get some answers that will help you. You deserve better than this ((( )))! My thoughts are with you. Keep being brave.

For newbie (hi all!) roll call started by Jolls (hiya!)
Lolfactor 44 (45 in march :-/) 3 teenagers. ttc since Jan 2010 - 3 cps so far.

Good luck to the 'movers' - know how stressful it is. The estate agents should know all the school stats - and the Good Schools Guide has info about entry probs for each school (ie oversubscribed). Think it's online now.

Just finished cp/mc afterbleed so hoping to pick myself up and start again this month. Fingers crossed for us all x

Lou I am so very sad to hear of the loss of your little baby girl. My 22 week loss lived for a while which I struggled to come to terms with. She was called Emma and was also born on October 10th in 2005. My consultant was the only person who seemed to have faith in my ability to have a healthy pregnancy. He looked at the Post Mortem results and all the blood tests and all that seemed amiss was that I have factor V lyden which makes my blood prone to clotting. He said that this was not the cause. I was advised to take 75mg of aspirin a day throughout any further pregnancies which I have done. He said it was simply bad luck - no reason.

who's who:

• Jollster: 43 (a few days ago so still in mourning ), one DS 2y9m. TTC#2 since June 09, 3 MMC all around 11-13 weeks. Recurrent MC tests all clear, now TTC again, on month 5 (longest I've tried without a BFP).
• Lolfactor 44 (45 in march :-/) 3 teenagers. ttc since Jan 2010 - 3 cps so far.

Adding my Stats. If everyone copies and pastes and adds their info we'll get a nice long list of everyone.Galwaygirl used to do it for us...are you out there? How are you?

louise, I'm thinking of you.I hope you have good news from the blood test. It sounds like your progesterone is fine, judging by your AF. Hang in there.

So, here's the list so far:

Jollster: 43 (a few days ago so still in mourning grin), one DS 2y9m. TTC#2 since June 09, 3 MMC all around 11-13 weeks. Recurrent MC tests all clear, now TTC again, on month 5 (longest I've tried without a BFP).

Lolfactor 44 (45 in march :-/) 3 teenagers. ttc since Jan 2010 - 3 cps so far.

Hopefulgum 44 (45 in Nov) : 5 DC: ranging 19yrs to 2 years.ttc since May 2010, mmc 10 weeks Dec 2010.

Jolls, crossed post with your list!

I am 42 and have two boys aged 7 and 10 already and we decided a bit late it would seem to squeeze one more in. Now 8 months in one MC at 10 weeks and nothing doing, this is probably the last month and I don't think I can do this one on my own again. I am 1 dpo I think, so there it is. I have been reading this thread and dithering for a while and have fingers and toes crossed for Lou, this whole ttc thing has turned me into an eternal optimist and you are due so much luck, thanks for listening . Oh and apologies in advance my spelling is rubbish
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lou really hoping for it all to all be ok . I am really sorry if you have said this all before but have you looked into immunology issues? I can't explain it all because it is quite in-depth but there are theories that your body can try and remove the pregnancy in the way your body would fight off an illness. There are things you can do to help to change this. As I mentioned before I am going to have a few extra drugs in my final IVF cycle to try and make a difference. I am not sure how this all fits in with your history, because you had a baby. Anyway, I am really hoping it will all be fine. Sending you hugs and arrow prayers (sorry if that offends anyone who is not religious at all, I just don't know what else to do but pray it will all be OK). Hugs to you Lou.

OnEdge welcome. I was very sad to read about your little Emma. Congratulations on your three kids all under 3. Must be a handful but not unmanageable! Watching Cheaper by the dozen! Whenever I feel sad at only having one kid I watch the 12 (or rather 11 for those who have seen it) going mad and crazy and I just think hmmm, one is pretty good! For all those waiting for number one, I should say one is wonderful and all the best to everyone.

Panashe your wedding plans sound lovely. A red dress sounds beautiful, I am sure it would go very well at Christmas; just make sure you don?t look like Mrs Claus! I mean if you are pregnant! I wonder if red would go well on a beautiful autumn day, the leaves changing colours and falling all around and you emerge from the house in your stunning red dress (I?m there in my big hat! ? See how I did that, just put myself into your big day!). Anyway, I think it will be lovely. We had a wonderful wedding but actually not too expensive, we had our reception at a golf club and had a big church bit first in my church, I got everything except the groom at half price (I mean dress, shoes, tiara, veil ? yes I had the works!). Anyway, just dreaming. Watched the end of Tool Academy and the guy who won asked his girl to marry him. I was in tears. I love weddings. You?ve got months to plan, hope it will be just super dooper!

BB no idea about the school thing. I lived in London (suburbs) as a child and teenager and was very happy to get away! I live in the countryside now and love it. But then I don't have a high powered job at all.

Think I might have an ear infection, not sure, keep feeling vaguely dizzy, vaguely sick and having a headache. Going to see doc this week.

I have really enjoyed the Rosemary Conley classes and have got a real love for exercise now, which is fab, and which I was really keen to get out of the classes but I am afraid my eating problems are not great. I lost weight and now I am putting it all back on! My sis thinks I have problems with food, and I agree. It is weird because I am very happy now and very fortunate to have a great hubby and lovely daughter, and a job I like, my faith is important to me my family are close by and I am fit (ish) and well. But as a kid I was very shy and I've had anxiety in the past, and a touch of OCD! So maybe, just maybe I am eating for comfort, for acceptance, I am not sure for what! Anyway, I am going to try and get a book from the library, anyone heard of it these books, Eating the Moment: 141 Mindful Practices to Overcome Overeating One Meal at a Time by Pavel Georgievich Somov? Or Overcoming Overeating: It's Not What You Eat, It's What's Eating You! by Lisa Morrone? Or Overcoming Overeating: How to Break the Diet/Binge Cycle and Live a Healthier, More Satisfying Life by Jane R. Hirschmann and Carol H. Munter? Or, finally, The Food and Feelings Workbook: A Full Course Meal on Emotional Health by Karen R. Koenig? Has anyone heard of any of the authors? Which one is better?

Nothing fertility wise to mention so will stop warbling!

Love to all.

Baby dust to all.

If you want to reply about the food thing and not clog up this thread I did start a new one in the big/slim/weight lose section of Mumsnet.

It is at

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/big_slim_whatever_weight_loss_club/1160452-Can-anyone-recommend-a-good-book-on-emotional-or-comfort-eating-please

here

Thanks

Fingers and everything else crossed for lou.

So, here's the list so far:

Curlylox - 43 (44 in May) 1 DS 21, 1 DD 6, ttc since Dec 2009 got a BFP Jan 2010 then mc 10 weeks 6 Feb 2010.

Jollster - 43 (a few days ago so still in mourning grin), one DS 2y9m. TTC#2 since June 09, 3 MMC all around 11-13 weeks. Recurrent MC tests all clear, now TTC again, on month 5 (longest I've tried without a BFP).

Lolfactor - 44 (45 in march :-/) 3 teenagers. ttc since Jan 2010 - 3 cps so far.

Hopefulgum - 44 (45 in Nov) : 5 DC: ranging 19yrs to 2 years.ttc since May 2010, mmc 10 weeks Dec 2010.

I was just thinking of GG and her fabulous list last night. GG I don't know whether to wear a vest, a slanket or a pair of old baggy pants and I don't know whether to seduce hubbie or tell him to bog off . Come back, matey. If you're reading I hope you're ok - we miss you for lots of reasons - honest

So until GG comes back and does the in-depth list - i'm liking jolly's idea and will add my bit.

THE LIST

Curlylox - 43 (44 in May) 1 DS 21, 1 DD 6, ttc since Dec 2009 got a BFP Jan 2010 then mc 10 weeks 6 Feb 2010.

Jollster - 43 (a few days ago so still in mourning grin), one DS 2y9m. TTC#2 since June 09, 3 MMC all around 11-13 weeks. Recurrent MC tests all clear, now TTC again, on month 5 (longest I've tried without a BFP).

Lolfactor - 44 (45 in march :-/) 3 teenagers. ttc since Jan 2010 - 3 cps so far.

Hopefulgum - 44 (45 in Nov) : 5 DC: ranging 19yrs to 2 years.ttc since May 2010, mmc 10 weeks Dec 2010.

Hippychick - 44: 2 sons aged 7 & 10. Decided to try for a cheeky last baby about aug 09. One MMC in Feb 2010 and 1 MC in June 2010. (8 months since last MC - longest trying time for me).

Just heard on the news that the 1st victim of the earthquake in Christchurch was buried. He was a 5 month old baby. He was wearing a little santa outfit in the photo - how incredibly sad and awful. Life can be so hard . It made me realise that not getting pregnant with a third baby isn't the worst thing that can happen - I needed to be reminded of that. Am feeling humble now .

I meant to say:- lou at this early stage only test with very yellow strong first morning urine. Hoping that second line is good and dark. Loved the idea of your DH moaning about all the piss sticks to one of the cats.

italian those books do sound like a good idea - maybe don't try to read them all though!! I'd read the reviews on Amazon and choose that way. I think with some people food is very much caught up with emotions, self esteem etc. There was a lady on TV the other day who said she over eats because when she is eating she feels loved (by herself). I'm lucky in that my weight gain is all down to lazyness or greedyness and those things are easier to fix than 30 years of psycological links with food. I wish you well and hope that you get some answers, my love. XX

THE LIST

Curlylox - 43 (44 in May) 1 DS 21, 1 DD 6, ttc since Dec 2009 got a BFP Jan 2010 then mc 10 weeks 6 Feb 2010.

Jollster - 43 (a few days ago so still in mourning grin), one DS 2y9m. TTC#2 since June 09, 3 MMC all around 11-13 weeks. Recurrent MC tests all clear, now TTC again, on month 5 (longest I've tried without a BFP).

Lolfactor - 44 (45 in march :-/) 3 teenagers. ttc since Jan 2010 - 3 cps so far.

Hopefulgum - 44 (45 in Nov) : 5 DC: ranging 19yrs to 2 years.ttc since May 2010, mmc 10 weeks Dec 2010.

Hippychick - 44: 2 sons aged 7 & 10. Decided to try for a cheeky last baby about aug 09. One MMC in Feb 2010 and 1 MC in June 2010. (8 months since last MC - longest trying time for me).

Diege - 40: 3 daughters (9,8,5) 1 son (20 months). Have been trying this time for 10 months (mc at 7 weeks October 2010).

Just a quickie from work as office is pretty busy and people are hovering...
Hope you're OK Lou, have been thinking of you xx
Hippy that is very poignant about the poor baby in NZ - it certainly does put things into perspective
Italian interesting to hear about your ideas on diet etc. Let me know how you captured the love for exercise! I am still managing the gym 3-4 times a week, but other than the classes which I love, the actual gym itself (ie, cardio ect) is a real slog. I do cycle there and back too though, which I enjoy.
Thanks for the list Curly and Hippy - I was also thinkling about GG just last night!
Well I think the vit B6 is working as still no af so that would be LP of 12 days which would be great for me (think 12 is ok? I'm taking it alongside the agnus castus too so hopefully the 2 together have done soemthing. Temps still very high for me, and boobs also sore again, so not discounting pregnancy but I am too scared to test . May as well wait for 18 high temps anyway, if I get anywhere near as far, before testing.

Hippy whispers in diege's ear - test. And then runs off again.

By the way diege - yes Mitchell is rather lovely. If you saw my DH and him together you'd be forgiven for thinking they were separated at birth - ROFL.......

lou where are you? did you test again?

THE LIST

Curlylox - 43 (44 in May) 1 DS 21, 1 DD 6, ttc since Dec 2009 got a BFP Jan 2010 then mc 10 weeks 6 Feb 2010.

Jollster - 43 (a few days ago so still in mourning grin), one DS 2y9m. TTC#2 since June 09, 3 MMC all around 11-13 weeks. Recurrent MC tests all clear, now TTC again, on month 5 (longest I've tried without a BFP).

Lolfactor - 44 (45 in march :-/) 3 teenagers. ttc since Jan 2010 - 3 cps so far.

Hopefulgum - 44 (45 in Nov) : 5 DC: ranging 19yrs to 2 years.ttc since May 2010, mmc 10 weeks Dec 2010.

Hippychick - 44: 2 sons aged 7 & 10. Decided to try for a cheeky last baby about aug 09. One MMC in Feb 2010 and 1 MC in June 2010. (8 months since last MC - longest trying time for me).

Diege - 40: 3 daughters (9,8,5) 1 son (20 months). Have been trying this time for 10 months (mc at 7 weeks October 2010).

BeattieBow - 40. 5 children - 2 sons (12 and 2) 3 daughters (10,8,6,). Wanted one more to make it up to 6. mmc Feb 10. 3 cps since then, but nothing since Sept.

BB you were asking if I was having trouble choosing schools. Yes and No. I find OFSTED a great place to start (although you would always have to visit to get a good feel for the place). Fortunately most of the schools on the island are good. And we only have to choose 1 secondary for DS1 in Sept and 1 primary for DS2. We originally wanted to move to Bournemouth/Poole but the schools were very mixed and you had a good one right next to a not so good one which made it hard to choose an area. Good luck with your research. At the very least it WILL take your mind of TTC

Hippy. One man I do have a bit of a thing about (other than Simon Cowell, Rafa Nadal, oh and dh ) is that nurse off Casulty (the one that was going out with the dr. who is lising the plt a bit). The whole dark longish hair and dark eyes thing is very much my ideal
Ooh I don't know about testing I'm 12dpo today and do have a few symptoms (waking very early last 3 days, sore boobs (though on and off don't feel that sore), metallic taste...I'm cross with myself as up until Friday/Sat I was proud with how calm I was, and that I'd just be pleased with a few extra days on Lp, but now of course I've thrown my heart into it and I know I will be devastated if it's a bfn!

hey ladies - AF started yesterday so no luck for me this month :-( am really worried about my fertility now as I was diagnosed with chlamydia recently(not my fault I got it I hasten to add)and although it's now been treated I could have had it for up to a year and not known - NHS won't fund any investigatory treatment either, i'd have to go private which I can't afford!

lou hope you are ok and hello to everyone else, I'll add my stats too!

THE LIST

Curlylox - 43 (44 in May) 1 DS 21, 1 DD 6, ttc since Dec 2009 got a BFP Jan 2010 then mc 10 weeks 6 Feb 2010.

Jollster - 43 (a few days ago so still in mourning grin), one DS 2y9m. TTC#2 since June 09, 3 MMC all around 11-13 weeks. Recurrent MC tests all clear, now TTC again, on month 5 (longest I've tried without a BFP).

Lolfactor - 44 (45 in march :-/) 3 teenagers. ttc since Jan 2010 - 3 cps so far.

Hopefulgum - 44 (45 in Nov) : 5 DC: ranging 19yrs to 2 years.ttc since May 2010, mmc 10 weeks Dec 2010.

Hippychick - 44: 2 sons aged 7 & 10. Decided to try for a cheeky last baby about aug 09. One MMC in Feb 2010 and 1 MC in June 2010. (8 months since last MC - longest trying time for me).

Diege - 40: 3 daughters (9,8,5) 1 son (20 months). Have been trying this time for 10 months (mc at 7 weeks October 2010).

BeattieBow - 40. 5 children - 2 sons (12 and 2) 3 daughters (10,8,6,). Wanted one more to make it up to 6. mmc Feb 10. 3 cps since then, but nothing since Sept.

TinaO99 - 42: 1 daughter (19) TTC since December 2010, one MC/CP in Sept 10