The resurrection of the 6th form common room for those inbetweeners who are TTC/PG after mc and are too long in the tooth to fit anywhere else

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The resurrection of the 6th form common room, a place to put your feet up, wallow in self pity (me) or rejoice (and tremble in fright) at new growing beans and baybees after mc. No lists. No stats. No babydust. No feeling bad if you can't keep up.

Go.

Big congrats yrmotb how exciting did he have a ring ready? What's it like?

DOO DOO DU DOO.... DOO DOO DU DOooOoOoooo!!!!

Thats the wedding march BTW! Fab news yrm CONGRATULATIONS! Oooh I can't wait to get my virtual hat

Izzy Is that 3 SWI every day?? I was impressed with my (very rare)2 yesterday!

3 a day?! Blimey loola , I'm not knitter !!

What I meant was, I am at the part of SMEP where you swi every day for three days after a positive opk. [feels quite dull emoticon]

Izzy I thought you must have been taking lessons from her!

babe lovely news . You know you will find a gorgeous dress and then get pg and not be able to fit into it!! Can we have more details please such as ring - where he did it - what did he say [soppy emoticon]

loola I felt a bit faint when you suggested that izzy was SWI 3 times a day! it would seem we are trying to keep up with knitter

Any figures yet mummyA ?

Hi to mouse and lady hope you both are plodding on ok xx

Waves to everyone else BB and freezing

I know I have missed lots of people so big wave to you all xx

I have just got home - put the cat in the cattery and am packing to head off to germany tomorrow. I am quite smug about my planning - I got a high on my CBFM today so I should have a couple of those then get a peak on wednesday or thursday - so I will be in [ahem] position so to speak. This is the first time we have really been together right at OV time since our last MC so fingers crossed!!

HCG results are in and its nice high figures last week it was 59.1, then two days later 117.6 and now its 8211. I am having fun plotting little graphs with the HCG calculator So I have satisfied myself that this pregnancy is neither molar nor ectopic and is off to a good start. Hopefully this good feeling will hold out another week or two and then I'll get scanned.

battery best of luck for your German Mission.

Izzy keep up the good work, no slacking now!!

YRMOTB yeah, we want more details please!

Congratulations yrmotb Hip hip hoooray Details please missey

Izzy are you still following the SMEP?

Mouse hope you are recovering and being looked after

Battery great news that your trip to Germany will allow for some well timed SWI Have fun

lady how are you doing?

oooohhh, I love a good engagement story - details please! Congratulations - really great news!

I'm gearing myself up to go back to work tomorrow, I've got other leave booked next week and I think it's time I try to rejoin the world. The thought is scaring me, and I know I'll probably weep on the train in and out of the city but hopefully being in the office will help me to hold it all together.

I've got to get some HPTs to start testing post-ERPC, I've got one, it's the other one from the pack of two that I used to test for my last pregnancy - I never tested again. Just feels too sad to use that one, don't know why.

Congrats yrmotb I want the full story, warts and all!

Lady Just try and take some time yourself before going back and if you don't feel ready then don't push it, work will have to wait.

mummyA Great news with your figures going up, so pleased things are going smoothly for you.

Ali try and hold in there and remain relatively sane I think you have amazing willpower to hold out for your scan but I totally understand why you have.

Battery That was very insensitive of your friend I, have also been told I will be having twins by a medium so I guess it might be a generic thing they say to a lot of people

Loola Hope you have built up some stamina, it nearly killed me swi everyday for 3 days!

Izzy I used to have a couple of guinea pigs, I went away one night leaving mum to look after them and my dogs, when I came home she hadn't closed the run properly, needless to say the guinea pigs were no more after the dogs had a little jaunt in the garden Obviously that won't happen to yours those

Well I am 10dpo and still BFN On a brighter note the consultant has said I can continue on the Clomid for another 6-8 months so my time bracket has widened a little. I was just so convinced this month, I know there's still time but I just feel so deflated today.

chloe it's only 10DPO- all hope is not yet lost! I know what you mean about feeling deflated though- hugs.

yay for mummya's HCG levels! And I love the fact you have a graph. That's ace...

So, details
Yes, he had a ring, it's second hand/vintage/antique- whatever you want to call it! Tis like a flower with a small sapphire in the middle and then diamonds set around the edge and some cut out bits. It's white gold. It's lovely actually, I'm really proud of him! And he asked me after we'd had a lovely dinner, with perhaps a little too much wine.. And he only tripped over his words a little If I can take a better pic than the one I've taken with the Iphone (which is just blurry) then i'll put it on my profile here.

ladybee good luck for work today. Thinking of you.

Right, best go do some work!

I haven't been on for days, so got a lot of catching up to do. Huge congrats YRMOTB!! That's excellent news, I'm so pleased for you. As others have said, set a date, buy a beautiful dress and you'll defintely get updiffed before then! Well done pal, what a lovely thing to look forward too and your ring sounds pefect x

Bee hope you have been doing ok, can't believe you're going back to work already. Although you need time initially both times I found it helped going back because left at home with my own thoughts I would weep all day and get into a state. Just make sure you put yourself first and don't struggle on if it is too soon.

Mouse, sorry you had more bad news - hope you're doing better now. What a miserable thing to happen and more for you to endure.

Will catch up on everyone's news soon. Had a bit of a dicky tum last few days so haven't been on the PC much, hope you're all well x

caribou that's exactly it, I have been much worse on the days that I've been on my own in the house without DS or DH or friends to distract me. I was sad going in on the train, but the staring out the window is just another time to dwell on the sad thoughts.
Tomorrow I have an appointment at the anti-coag clinic, and I'm dreading having to tell someone that I lost the pregnancy, saying those words is still painful.
Work was fine, everyone was lovely, no big surprises or dodgy questions. The only thing is working as I do in a large female-dominated company there are an extraordinary number of bumps around, but actually I don't mind seeing them. I just wish I had one (that wasn't cake-related).

ahhhh YRMOTB that's lovely. Well done your man.

Morning all

bee best of luck for your appointment today, hope it's not too hard for you, will be thinking of you x

battery hope Germanshagfestmission is going well

Chloe Are you still in with a chance? Fingers crossed.

moo hope your tummy is better today lovely x

So I notice from updating list that we await news from wiggle and then jollipops, both of whom have been awfully quiet!!!!! Where are you ladies?!

HSG done yesterday and was surprisingly pain free; nothing unusual to report, apparently all looks fine, but she did say that there was a small mark on the side of my womb that could be scar tissue but that wouldn't have caused mc. Results appointment and pregnancy plan next Tues.

Did anyone see one born every minute on Mon? The lady on there had no DC, had 4 mc then conceived and carried to full term with her 5th, gave me a glimmer of hope!

Have a good day all x

morning all

sorry been AWOL, partly busy, partly trying not to obsess.... Day 22 here, last month that marked 3 days of spotting then 3 clear days which raised my hopes that it was urban myth implantation spotting. It wasn't. No symptoms here at all, so am anticipating another disappointing end to the month.

have had a quick skim, but will read back to catch up properly...

special squeeze for bee and my darlin' BBB, and a BIG WHOOOOOOOOP for yrmotb...

hope everyone's doing ok xxx

Hello from germany! I am in place and ready to be impregnated (no pressure then)

bb I saw one born every minute and cried with that lady. Even when she had her baby with her she still remembered the ones she lost - I expect that's what it will be like for us all.

jolls no symptoms does not mean you are definitley NOT pg. I will keep my beady eye on you anyway :)

lady hope work is ok - I know what you mean about staying in the house on your own. When I went back to work I felt I had to as the house was so quiet and sad I thought I might go round the bend on my own.

moo lovely to see you - I hope your tummy is getting better x

babe that ring sounds gorgeous. have you set a date yet??

chloe 10dpo is really early to test (not preaching - I have ben known to test from around dpo 8 ) - fx you can test again in a day or so (or every day!) and you will get a lovely bfp xxx

Moning to izzy - looks for wiggle and everyone else that I have missed and is lurking.

So here I am with nothing to do - DP is at work so the purpose of my visit really is to wait for him to some home so we can SWI! I quite like being here though, it's nice and quiet and no work to think about :)

Slight mortification at the airport when the man asked to see in my bag and pulled out my fertility monitor and waved it around asking 'what is this??'

So I replied 'it is my fertility monitor. Please don't turn it on or you will mess up my fertile days and that is why I am off to germany - to hopefully get pregnant'

I don't know who more - me, him, or the tasty looking chap behind me :)

bb meant to say - glad HSG was good. I do know friends who have got pregnant right after having a hsg - seem to give them a bit of a clean and makes them all shiney. In fact - my friend who is now pg had a hsg and then ovulated on CD8 ( About a week early for her). Luckily she was using opk's and SWI - and is now 16 weeks :)

Just a thought for you to be on the look out for any early eggies :) x

BB I saw one born every minute (first time I've felt capable of watching it). You should definitely try and book in at St Mary's rather than Southampton!!!! The care I received there with ds although not without usual London niggles was far superior in labour to what those women seemed to be receiving.

love the airport story chook, wave at MrCockerel...

*battery, I would love to have seen his face!

ladybee I know what you mean about getting emotional on your own. Having time to think isn't always good for us, is it?

There is still hope for me, my cycle length last month was 32 days so am 4 days off that, however have been spotting (streaky blood every 3rd wipe or so) for about 5 days now, I have no idea what is going on, my AF is noramlly horrendous with thick clots so am pretty sure it's not a ridiculously light AF. This is the worst I have ever been with hope and symptom spotting in all my TTC career!

YRMOTB awwwwwww! What a lovely proposal will go look for that piccie in a minute...

bb glad the HSG wasnt painful for you. I found it agonising! I would be wary of letting a "normal" doctor spot scar tissue, only someone who has seen it plenty of times will really be able to give you a good diagnosis if it is. How many times has the person who read your slide seen scar tissue? Sounds particularly that scar tissue wouldnt cause an mc. Why not? (All AS specialist doctors agree that is does) Dr March in california will look at your slides for free and give you his opinion if you email him. Let me know if you want his contact details. (Dr Lower in London obviously will also look at them too, but I bet he would charge) where abouts was the mark? Its generally agreed that scar tissue in the fundus is "worse" as this is where embryos like to implant. (I had 1cm patch in fundus and cervix 100% scarred shut) When you go to get your results ask what size it is and if it is flat or banded scarring, and if it looks calcified (dense, therefore older and harder to remove) I would really recommend joining the yahoo group for ashermans for more information sorry to sound scary but many many women on that group had surgery with someone who wasnt an expert and they made a small bit of scarring worse. Its very important to get yourself into the hands of someone who knows about scarring. a) to get a proper diagnosis and b) to get the proper treatment. I hope the mark dosent turn out to be scar tissue. An AS expert could certainly tell that straight away and put your mind at rest if that is the case.

chloe sounds really promising!

battery go girl! catching eggs internationally and educating airport staff on fertility matters - good work

jolls i have been watching that list and hoping its your month (and thinking how lovely and tidy it is)

izz hows the three days in a row going? and slimming world? Hope you are well xx

big wave to everyone else.

Have put myself on the list - at last. I hope I have not messed it up < looks anxiously at Jolls > I know what a tidy list means to a lot of people !! xx

mummya thanks for that, I have an appointment with my Consultant at St Mary's next Tues so will know for sure then. The lady that carried out the test said that it may be scar tissue left over from erpc but that she couldn't say for sure until she had looked at it with her Consultant. The mark was on the right of my womb on the side. It just looked like a dark spot but there was only one, well, one that was obvious at least. I guess I'll know for sure on Tues. How are you doing?

battery I've had 4 mc myself so seeing that lady on obem really hit home for me. Made me think that number 5 we might get our one and only baybee! Laughing lots about the airport! Bet the bloke was mortified!

Chloe fingers crossed!

BB I am fine thanks, except morning sickness kicked in yesterday - boo! Its kind of mild/medium ish. If it stays this way I will be happy because that is what I had with DS, but if it gets worse I will be worried because with the pregnancy that ended in mmc I had hyperemisis and was hospitalised. I know its not scientific but in my mind mild sickness = good and extreme sickness = bad.

In your appointment on tues, be prepared for Ashermans to be dismissed quite easily. Doctors who are not familiar with it tend to shy away from it because it makes them feel ignorant. Remember that there are lots of AS experts on the NHS and if necessary push to see them. Dr Anthony Trew is an "A lister" and there are about 4 or 5 other "C listers" too. (contact details and info about their treatment methods and comments by patients are all available on the yahoo group.) If it IS scar tissue, then being so small, you have an excellent chance of getting completely cure IF YOUR SURGERY IS DONE BY AN EXPERT. The most important questions for you to ask are:
How many cases of AS have you seen? and for the person potentially doing surgery - How many hysteroscopies with division of adhesions have you performed? Of those procedures, how many women went on to have successful pregnancies afterwards? Then compare the results with the results of the A, B, and C list doctors on the yahoo site. With your history, I would expect someone who performs these procedures on a weekly basis, who has lots of experience to give you a really really good prognosis.

Hello ladies. Glad you've arrived over there battery. Good luck for the SWI. How embarrassed must the man have been!

bb glad the HSG wasn't too bad. Hope you manage to get some answers soon with the Consultant. I haven't been watching OBEM recently. I watched it twice and spent the whole time in tears, so will give it a miss for the forseeable future. Having heard about it, it did sound inspirational though.

I am wiling away the days til I am nearing the beginning of OPK. I am mainly doing this by not running as much as I should be, and eating more chocolate than is strictly necessary. My half marathon is in only in 2 months, and hoping to be pregnant is getting less and less likely. Ho hum. Fx for this month!

Waves to all, chloe am keeping my suspenders on for you..