Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting weeping and most of all laughing! All welcome! (Part 10)

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Had a miscarriage and ready to try again? This is the place for you, support in the form of virtual wine, chocolate and a great big shoulder to cry on (tears not essential). The new year beckons us, lots of BFP's for everyone

UCL= Usual cycle Length
CD= cycle day

Hello ladies,

MAMAP Whooooooo-hooooooo!! Great news! Your DH sounds fab, I really hope his prediction comes true soon. My Dad and Stepmum live in Faversham, Kent - is that anywhere close? If so I shall tell them to go and be good customers

wiggle I agree with the others, if you feel comfortable doing it, then let her know. Everytime I have plucked up the courage to tell someone my story I have felt incredibly liberated. MC shouldnt be as taboo as it is. IMO it makes it all so much harder to bear when its shrouded in secrecy.

hadrian v good news re: scan. Looks like you and me are joining the TTC train at the same time

I have had my HSG done thank f!k that is out of the way, horrible horrible things. Why does every one insist it doesnt hurt, WHEN IT DOES?!! Pink* I took 400mg of ibuprofen beforehand and two paracetomol, I wish I had taken the full 800mg (max dose) of ibuprofen because when the dye went in, it hurt so much I wriggled and shouted "Stop! Stop!" I was so shocked it took me a full minute to remember how to say it in Spanish! Anyway its done, phew! and I have to say, the only bit that really hurt was the dye going in (a few seconds) the rest dreaded speculum, ridiculously long pointy instruments etc didnt hurt a bit. The only other crappy bit is that results arent available until tonight, and even then I have to send them to my AS specialists, as the report from here wont be worth much (it will say all clear)

So, I am very relieved it is done, looking forward to celebrating with a large bottle glass of wine

Anyone else need some?

Chloe - I think only you can judge whether work would be too stressful and interfere with your medications and rest regime... I guess you need to do whatever you can to keep yourself sane.

About the charting - you can make it as simple or as complicated as you like..! I would recommend a free registration on Fertility friend to start, then you can build up as you learn more (there are instructions on the site). Here are the steps I would take as a beginner, in order:

1. Note first day of periods
2. Buy thermometer that looks something like this. Some will say it has to read to 2 decimal places, but trust me, 1 decimal place is fine. Take your temperature in the morning, ideally while still in bed. Some people stick the thermometer in their mouth, some in the vagina, doesn't really matter as long as you choose one and stick with it!
3. Plot temperatures on a graph.
4. Show us the link to your chart and ask questions as you go on. Basic theory - temps are lower pre-ovulation, then about 0.5 degrees higher after ovulation due to hormonal changes. Charting will tell you a) if you're ovulating; b) when you're ovulating. You can use this information to guide you as to the best shagging times in subsequent cycles - the best time is in the few days before the temperature rise, but of course, you only know this in retrospect.
5. Record when you have sex so you can see in retrospect if it was well timed or not.
6. You will see lots of charts with "E" on. This stands for egg-white cervical mucus. The gist is that just before ovulation, your cervical fluid is egg-white like. So if you feel slippery smooth, you can use this as a sign that you're in a potentially fertile phase. This tends to dry up after ovulation.

I personally don't record anything other than the above, but there are lots of other things that experts do to fine tune things even more. I'm not sure how much more it helps though.

Yum, wine? Thanks very much! Glad you got it over with MummyA and hope your AS specialist is helpful and prompt with the result.

I knew there was a reason I didn't do it Emoo Thanks for posting though, I do actually think I might give it a go on my next cycle if this one isn't successful, just to give me some incline if I am ovulating as I am not getting any type of mid cycle scan like others I know who have been on Clomid so I will have no idea other than pg if it works or not!

Oh and yes mamma, I shall be joining you in the bottle glass of wine this evening, along with my very not at all meal of chinese!

Yes I think it would be mat allowance I would be entitled to Cep, that's what I would have received had I carried on childminding anyway. Which reminds me, still have to do my tax return

well done mamap thats great news

Thanks Mummy. [ouch emotion] at your story of dye insertion, that made me actually wince reading about you screamimg 'stop'! Poor you, fx crossed for the results showing all is well, enjoy a drink (or two). Faversham is about 25/30 miles away at a guess, such a small world... my Grandma and Grandad used to live there, it's close Canterbury, a lovely part, I just love all of kent!

Thanks emoo

Chloe I see, well then you can just see how you feel about it all at the time you are offered a job!

x-posts, thanks nix, how you doing today? when is your scan?

I obviously meant mummy not mamma

cheers chloe! by the way, if you are going to use ff.com, then get someone to post a link to their chart and sign up through that, that way you both get 5 free VIP days. If you want to le arn more about fertility stuff in general, get the book Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler. Its brilliant and explains charting and a lot more xxx

Mummy I had HSG a few years ago, and other than slight discomfort, there was no pain at all! I do tend to be on wimpish side of bravery too! Maybe I was just lucky!

Mamap Fantastic news, this is the start of good things to come!

Wiggle ...what mummy said! I agree but she is more eloquent!

tunnocks best of luck!

lady what a day! all in all a good result!

Emoo thank you for chart flattery

pink sounding good missy!

wombat & GET fab news about temp hikes!

izz hope weigh in went well!

owl hope booking appt went well!

choccy whoop for weight loss

YRM VELVET MAMA & PINK I have flashing sussies at the ready!

Oh Dear DH and the DCs have started ww3 in the bathroom... best be off xxx

Hello all!!!

mamap that is the most fabulous news!!! I will be zooming down to Kent soon as it's open!!!!! what a lovely comment from DH, I think he's right!!!!

tunnocks sorry you're having a hard time :( your plan sounds great though, all the very best xx

wiggle I have ben having similar thoughts myself-a really good friend is due in May and wants me to visit her but I'm stalling so far. I'm worried about similar stuff to you, that I won't be able to look convincingly excited enough (I am excited for her but the combo with self pity is likely to show as indifference at best I think....), and that she'll feel like she can't talk about all the exciting stuff she's probably thinking for worry that she'll upset me (she knows about MC) and I don't want her feeling like she's treading on eggshells. I was sure up until a week ago that I'd be completely happy to see her when she's got her baby but now I'm not 100% sure, although o think it'll be easier than going while she's pregnant. No idea why! So in summary, I'd give it a miss, you don't want to risk feeling left out and worrying about it coming up isn't good for you either.

Chloe tough one about job, not sure what the answer is. How about getting a couple more cleaning jobs so you can pick and choose your hours and how much to take on? I guess it doesn't help maternity pay situation though.

Ochaye you about?? Haven't seen you for a bit!

On phone, sorry if missed anyone. I am mega stressed at work :( not quite sure what to do about it though, as reluctant to give up the great benefits i get. But too busy to make it to bellringing or yoga so all my de stressing techniques dont work either :( arghghghghghfhf

Going to acupuncture tonight but really want to sleep instead, appt isn't until 9 tonight :( izz you still acupuncturing? How did weigh in go?

mummya how did it go?

GOOD LUCK TOMORROW DACHS!!!

Haha so much chat here-I do one message and miss a whole page!! Ouch mummya I'm wriggling here too!!! I'll defo be doing the paracetamol and ibuprofen then!!! Hope results are perfect xx

loola hope you managed to sort stuff out!

nix you're very quiet, you ok? Xx

A quickie! Good luck for dacha tomorrow, and a massive woop woop for mamap's bistro thang, that's so fab!!

Back tomorrow for a catch up a la emoo and loola. very impressed!

pink sorry to make you wriggle, but I thought I would give an honest account. By the way, I delivered DS naturally with no drugs, he was 9 pounds and I didnt whimper one bit so I am not normally a pain wimp!

Maybe I have got a funny shaped cervix or something? This is my 13th invasive procedure in an 8 month period, and I have found all of them painful (except the ones under GA) I hope you have more of a loola experience, (other ladies on MN have said it is not painful too) but just in case, take the drugs. I was told to take one dose of ibuprofen the night before and another an hour before the procedure (at 10.00am) Also, looking back it really is only for a few seconds as the dye is pushed in, and then its over.

just popped back for a quick good luck for tomorrow dachs

Yes, Good luck dach

Just a quickie
Thanks Emoo for FF 101, just what I was needing once AF has been and gone this weekend. Also agree with mummya that you do such great updates

Mamap yay for the offer acceptance, how utterly cool, I am a bit actually

everyone with a due date looming, mine is too coupled with my grandma's death it seems unfair, unbelievable and untimely that I have to get through this month. 2 very close friends due dates same as mine was (29th Jan) and 2 extended family members also due in the coming weeks. So I do feel robbed, gutted for getting nearly half way through a pregnancy and now????

So I stupidly on cd26 poas, and obviously nothing, fish me up

Dachs good luck and fx for you

Sorry for lack of Everybody else

Night all x

mamap congrats :) I will definately be visiting!

mummy sounds most unpleasant! I dont like any gynae things.

dachs good luck for tommorrow

tunnocks lovely post, great news that you are actively changing things to reduce your stress levels, shame you are leaving us but I understand entirely.

I too am stressed at work (and at home actually!). Don't know if you remember I said BIL moved in just before xmas as he split up with fiance - well he is still here and looks to be staying for a few months while he ssaves up to buy a house!!

Did anyone else get a free 5 day VIP on FF? I'm off to play with it now (but I really should be working)

Thanks for all the greetings. I'm sincerely hoping but trying not to hope too much because I'll be so down if it doesn't happen. Also dh is away all of next week on business so I'll be all by myself when I find out one way or the other. So I'll have no one to share it with (apart from everyone on this list and I'll feel a bit bad if a whole load of people over the internet find out before dh no offence intended) or yell at depending on what happens.

Dachs I really hope it goes well for you tomorrow.

Well Tigger let's just say you can yell at us if it doesn't happen and if it does, you'll just have a load of people on the internet getting hugely excited at your absence.

Mamapower that's brilliant news! Well done!

Just a very quick one from me tonight - it seems to be the day for lots of work stress.
Boss is in town (she lives abroad) at the moment so a load of extra meetings to try fit in mean not much work is actually getting done.

waves to all!

Yay mamap that's fab news!

Thanks for all the good wishes guys. I'll let you know how it goes

Oh - boss has redeemed herself slightly by doing a complete turnaround on the holiday thing and pretending she never said no in the first place...

I'm hoping this means that as I am now excited about the holiday, that tomorrow will definitely go well so I have to cancel the holiday!

Need to be on early train to get to hospital on time, so I'm off now but I'll check in properly tomorrow

Night night peeps

(wine for the rest of you...)

Just a quickie, ended up having a girls night, so full catch up tomorrow, just 2 things:

Dachs good luck for tomorrow, crossing everything for you.

and Pink, will be thinking of you tomorrow and I hope it's not too painful for you.

Thank you all for your good wishes, I suspect I will be getting a few visitors

Also on an amazing note, my af hasn't arrived today, I can feel it coming but even if she turns up over night it means my cycle has extended by a whole day which is bloomin great news I don't know why but I was always a 28 day girl pre mc and for some reason I would be stupidly happy to return to my 28 days!

night all, and thanks again, you lot are totally ace

Oooh mamap fab news re the pub and fx for af not turning up . When will you poas?!!

dachs best of luck for tomorrow, will be thinking of you!

pink hope the acu went well, I've got an appt tomorrow afternoon and am looking fwd to it. How's yours going?

mummya sorry the hsg was so traumatic Hope you're doing ok now? Fx for some good results and some swi-ing later on!!

wiggle have to admit I would be dreading it too, I would either tell them, or avoid it. Hope you work it out ok

wombat I am relatively cheery atm actually and I'm not sure why...I think it's partly the relief of getting past the due date/Christmas and partly I've just come to terns with it all a bit. Anyway

tunnocks what a lovely message! I hope the step back does you good and you're back here soon with some good news. You know we're always here if you need us x

Oh and I had lost 2lb at the weigh in today!!

Just passing by to wish Dachs good luck for tomorrow (and maybe your boss is a secret mumsnetter..?!)

And to thank you all for all your comments earlier today. As Mama so brilliantly put it - you are all ace!